“When You Bring New People In, They Hungry”

August 4th, 2022

Newcomer safety/cornerback Logan Ryan.

Last year, the Bucs brought back every Super Bowl starter, a move that no championship team had made in the modern era of professional football.

It was a smart play and one for which general manager Jason Licht deserved to be lauded. But were the Bucs missing the spark that comes with fresh competition for jobs and the energy of new players?

That was the angle of NBC Sports veteran NFL insider and social activist Peter King when he hit Buccaneers savior linebacker with that line of questioning at One Buc Palace yesterday. King was in town on his training camp tour.

White agreed with the premise. Sort of.

“When you bring new people in, they hungry because they know what we just achieved and they know that we’re not far off from achieving it again.” White said. “So they’re coming in trying to be the missing piece of the puzzle.”

However, White was quick to tell King the Bucs had all the pieces necessary to win a Super Bowl last season. It was injuries that cost the team late in the season, he said, not a lack of hungry players or chemistry.

Joe agrees with White. It was the injuries, but it also was depth. This year the Bucs have more firepower in the secondary with the addition of Logan Ryan, as Joe views Keanu Neal as a swap for safety Jordan Whitehead.

Just imagine if White and Lavonte David didn’t suffer a mess of injuries last season. That alone could have put the Bucs in the Super Bowl, Joe believes, even with Antonio Brown’s meltdown and injuries to defensive backs and Jason Pierre-Paul

21 Responses to ““When You Bring New People In, They Hungry””

  1. westernbuc Says:

    Tristan Wirfs getting hurt before we faced that relentless rams defensive line killed us. Obviously AB and Godwin hurt us, but our offense only works if Brady has time.

  2. FrontFour Says:

    Key missing last year were Wirfs and Godwin and a healthy JPP and LVD on D.

  3. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I remember when we brought in Swaggy…..he was hungry……hungry for cheeseburgers & fries….

    He be very hungry.

  4. Kentucky Buc Says:

    Paula Deen needs to stay in the field if he wants to get picks.

  5. Kentucky Buc Says:

    On the field

  6. SufferingSince76 Says:

    Didn’t know you were talking about Devin White until the last paragraph. Rough night, Joe?

  7. Eckwood Says:

    D Smith was healthy but he got his ass absolutely whipped by V Miller ……… His performance was Horrific !!

  8. Defense Rules Says:

    ‘Joe agrees with White. It was the injuries, but it also was depth’.

    Ooooo, sounds like you’re coming around to the notion that DEPTH is the critical factor between champions & non-champions Joe. Offense has plenty of depth for the most part. Defensive Secondary should be MUCH better this year with the addition of Ryan & Neal, and the retention of Davis.

    Still withholding judgment on ILB depth, but I’m convinced that our DLine depth needs 1-2 more pieces because of their age & injury histories. I’ll feel a lot better though when Suh finally re-signs & we HOPEFULLY sign a quality DE/OLB to flesh out that position group.

  9. #8 Says:

    Suh. or Flowers. Or both.

  10. Bucs&Bolts Says:

    I say it every year we gotta stay healthy

  11. Pewter Warrior Says:

    Health and an awful 2021 draft were the main reasons the Bucs didn’t repeat. I like the offseason additions I just have my fingers crossed that we can stay healthy

  12. Red-sparrow Says:

    Tristan wirfs was the single biggest loss. With him playing against the Rams Brady wouldn’t have gotten so beat up in the first half and the offense would have had time to let some plays develop and move the chains. As it was, Brady got sacked all first half and they couldn’t move the ball…

  13. Maniac Buc Says:

    Suh is gone. Let it go. Vea, Hicks, Gholston, Hall and Nunez-Roches might be the best set of DTs 1-5 in the NFL. They’re at least near the top.

    JTS, Barrett and Nelson will be really good at OLB. Cam Gill will contribute more also.

    Our DL/OLB depth is really good. I’m confused by all the non sense crying begging for a guy who was really good at one point, but right now, could tackle a statue.

  14. Maniac Buc Says:

    Could NOT tackle a statue I mean.

  15. geno711 Says:

    I love Suh. He played a ton of snaps. Mostly to me though, Suh always played best for the Bucs in the biggest games. That could be important for a team with Superbowl aspirations. But for 12-14 regular season games, Suh is just a guy.

    So, I feel like all the doomsday folks on Logan Hall and Akiem Hicks are going too far. I bet that Steve McClendon would come back and play a fair amount of snaps mid-season if we needed a DT.

    I certainly feel a healthy Hicks is a better player at this point than Suh.
    I also think that a mid-season Steve McClendon is not much different than a mid-season Suh.

    Hicks, Hall, and Gholston all play more spots on the DL than Suh. All will be more disruptive on plays during the regular season games than Suh would.
    No doomsday here. Just need those guys to be disruptive during that playoffs.

  16. sasquatch Says:


  17. Buc king Says:

    For the guys saying suh all the time my response is…. Gronk

  18. Rod Munch Says:

    If the Bucs had all their guys who returned, playing in that Rams game, they win the game — and the Rams were by far the toughest team they were going to play in the playoffs, so that means they win the SB.

    That’s were Brady comes into play, not just his drive, but just his rep, is enough to keep guys from getting comfortable.

  19. Defense Rules Says:

    Maniac … You’re so right; Suh was dogmeat last year. Heck the best he could muster as a 34-year-old was only 6 sacks (2nd on the TEAM to Shaq), 13 QB Hits (3rd on the TEAM to Shaq & White), and only 7 TFLs (3rd on the TEAM again to Shaq & White). The really depressing part is that it took him a whole 17 games to get those … definitely a sign of old-age.

    Geno711 … As far as McLendon coming back if Vea or Hicks goes down, he’s now 36, a year older than Suh. Granted he did contribute a half of a sack last year, but that probably didn’t have QBs shaking in their boots. Of course I’m biased though.

  20. Pete Says:

    The secondary was never healthy at the same time. Jensen was also hurt by played in the playoffs. JPP and Scotty were injured throughout the season. And there were others but the big three that hurt our chances the most in this order.
    1. Tristen
    2. CG
    3. Lavonte

  21. geno711 Says:


    Suh is clearly better than McClendon in my opinion. If you took it any other way, that was not the intent. But we do not need a 750-snap guy for this defensive line based upon what we re-signed and drafted in the last two years.

    McClendon can be a 250 or 300 snap guy on early downs that could be successful.

    But I think guys like Hall and JTS will be getting 400 and 500 snaps this year.

    I was always impressed with JPP and Suh and the share of snaps they took. But not sure why you think that is the only way to set up a defensive line. New England and Green Bay defenses do quite well without interior guys with gaudy defensive stats or high snap counts.

    A look at 3 players over the last two years:

    Player Total Snaps TFL QB Hits Sacks Tkls
    Gholston 1113 15 31 7.5 80
    Suh 1503 16 32 12 71
    Hicks 1099 12 30 7 74

    Logan Hall, William Gholston and Akiem Hicks are more versatile in the positions they can play than Suh. It may not show up in individual stats, but I always think that Bowles loves the versatility.

    If Hall gets 400 snaps with 3-5 TFL, 3-5 QB hits, 1-2 sacks, and 15-20 tackles, what have we lost from last year. Just don’t see the worry that you do.