Tyler Johnson, You’re Fired!
August 30th, 2022
It’s not every day that a durable, healthy 24-year-old receiver with playoff experience and 55 career catches gets cut after a strong training camp.
But that’s where Tyler Johnson, the Bucs’ 2020 fifth-round pick, finds himself today.
Wow! And this is really only a “wow” because Johnson looked in fantastic shape this summer and performed solidly through the preseason.
This is a real eye-opener at JoeBucsFan.com world headquarters, especially as offseason Bucs castoff receiver Justin Watson has become one of Patrick Mahomes’ favorite targets in Kansas City.
Perhaps Johnson’s drop of a Tom Brady pass in Indianapolis sealed his fate, even though Brady came back to Johnson on 4th-and-5 for a first down.
Joe expects Johnson to be claimed on waivers, which means he’ll be on that team’s active roster for at least a few weeks.
Good luck, Tyler!
**For those who already have hit Joe with, “it must be something off the field.” Joe can’t go there. Joe doesn’t know Johnson’s personal life. However, Joe can say that two Bucs players Johnson hangs out with off the field (Joe has seen it personally) are two of the Bucs’ highly-regarded character guys.**
August 30th, 2022 at 11:21 am
he won’t be unemployed long at all. Kid is a baller. Somebody gonna swope him up quick. He’ll be on an active roster within a couple of days. .
August 30th, 2022 at 11:21 am
Surprising, but I guess we have tall rangy receivers and are keeping more smaller speed guys.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:22 am
Didn’t see that one coming, though he did shat himself in the Rams game. I thought for sure Darden before him. This has the stink of BA all over it, Darden is his boy.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:22 am
Kind of a big surprise. It will be interesting now to see if Miller, Perriman or Darden survive.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:22 am
Not good enough on Special Teams!
August 30th, 2022 at 11:23 am
Makes no sense
August 30th, 2022 at 11:24 am
Here’s coping it means Scotty Miller has made the team.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:24 am
Would have kept him over an aging hurt perrriman
August 30th, 2022 at 11:24 am
Should of made a trade. He’s valuable.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:25 am
What has Jalen Darden ever done to show that he belongs on an NFL field? Tyler Johnson has his flaws but he was still a decent option. Darden is throughly under sized and hasn’t shown a single thing yet. Hope he can prove me wrong.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:25 am
Confused???
August 30th, 2022 at 11:30 am
Miller breathes a tad easier today.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:31 am
I shared this on another thread. Sorry I didn’t realize this newer one was up.
GREG AUMAN (from Twitter)
“Part of me wonders if Bucs making it known that WR Tyler Johnson has been informed he’s being waived might get another NFL team to realize value and send Tampa Bay a late-round pick. That’s the logical reason to get news out there 5 hours before deadline.”
August 30th, 2022 at 11:31 am
You have to have a partner to trade with you can’t just trade someone just because you want to. I know he has become something of a fan favorite but I wasnt surprised like many have mention he doesn’t play special teams and I always thought he was slow and wasn’t a good enough route runner to create speration with his lack of speed.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:32 am
Well sterns Geiger and thompkins all should be here over Johnson Miller and Darden it’s simple none were open in nfc championship game .perriman shouldn’t be in discussions to be here because he has no job if we cut him No one wants him .
August 30th, 2022 at 11:32 am
I’m not sure why this is a surprise for some. He came in totally out of shape last season and when they needed him the most, he didn’t produce.
In theory, had he developed and improved, there would’ve been less need to sign a guy like Julio, IMO.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:33 am
Tyler is a slot WR. Who will be backing up Chris Godwin ?
August 30th, 2022 at 11:33 am
Boy, didn’t see this coming I hope they not playing favorites because I didn’t see a better receiver in the games during the preseason!
August 30th, 2022 at 11:33 am
I’m sure there are teams (like the Browns) that would give up a late round pick for Johnson.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:36 am
My one thought? Johnson only had a 4.7 40 time, meaning that he should be in the class of “possession” receiver, move the chains type.
Possession receivers typically have very good hands, and TJ has had some drops in recent years, and didn’t correct his drops this year.
Just speculating.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:36 am
Darden and Scotty are feeling a little better.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:36 am
He has a cheap contract, and nobody wanted to trade for him. That should tell you something.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:37 am
I would not call what Darden does is playing Special Teams either. Nothing he does is special! But he should have been the first one out of here.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:38 am
That is a big surprise
August 30th, 2022 at 11:38 am
Who is going to trade for a slow, unproductive WR with the “dropsies”?
Hint: NOBODY!
August 30th, 2022 at 11:44 am
We can trade Grant Stuard but we we’ve TJ?
August 30th, 2022 at 11:46 am
Tyler is too much the same body type as the wrs above him. The other guys have speed that nobody else does
August 30th, 2022 at 11:46 am
I look at it this way.
The bar has been set high for the young WRs. You get two years to “prove it”.
TJ is a solid depth guy, but everyone will agree that is about his ceiling.
IMO, it was always between him and Miller. I can see why they would keep Miller over him.
Question, when do they have to put CG on IR to start the season? Before or after 4pm?
August 30th, 2022 at 11:46 am
Brady’s not the GM. He likes TJ. He went to him the Jets game. He’s spoken glowingly about TJ. TJ was very popular in the locker room. His teammates will be furious. Brady hasn’t thrown a pass to Thompkins. Why would he want him over TJ? I’m so sick about hearing about Miller. The guy is a JAG. Bad move by Licht!! He better get OL help now!
When our receivers eventually get injured, we really trust the dwarfs? Darden, Miller, and Thompkins will get pressed at the line. Perriman is injured too often, and hasn’t produced anything. I’m so mad with Licht!!
August 30th, 2022 at 11:46 am
This could be free advertising. Licht may have attracted limited interest in his dial-around, but nothing concrete. Teams have until 4PM EST to make their final decisions. Johnson is one of those guys who might not clear waivers. A GM needing depth at WR might not see a better option before that 4PM deadline.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:47 am
Stupid move he looked good all pre season. Darden sucks yet we keep holding on to him.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:48 am
Is El Blundo in charge of these cuts?
August 30th, 2022 at 11:48 am
this is probably just a numbers game. With how the roster was shaping up (with Tyler) we were lacking speed receivers and good special teamers, of which Tyler is neither one. Hopefully we can keep him on the practice squad but seems highly unlikely. He looked good in preseason.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:48 am
Yeah maybe they’re preferentially keeping at least one smaller, shifty WR.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:48 am
Did the Bucs even try to trade Tyler Johnson?
August 30th, 2022 at 11:50 am
Im a bit surprised by this but not shocked… TJ had a solid preseason.
Another average WR who doesn’t play special teams… If you are a WR5 or WR6 you better be able to return kicks.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:50 am
Disappointed. Good Luck Tyler Johnson (except when playing the Bucs of course).
August 30th, 2022 at 11:53 am
I don’t understand why Darden sucks. His first year was no different than TJs first year. Well Darden played ST and TJ didn’t. There is that difference.
Assuming they hang onto Darden. He does not have to do much to match TJ in year two.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:55 am
Cowboys
August 30th, 2022 at 11:56 am
Very at the moment. I understand they were too deep at WR, but he was clean cut and razor sharp with all our starters dinged up or flat out hurt. Trade Grant Stuard who was very good on our very sh!tty ST. Ironically you mentioned Watson when he was leading tackler on ST before he was let out of his rookie contract.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:56 am
Darden has already out done TJ in year two by coming to camp in better shape.
If and when the game slows down for Darden, he may be able to do some special things.
Besides that, the kid is super sharp and is determined to prove he belongs. So, I think he is one of those locker room guys that everyone loves to have.
August 30th, 2022 at 11:57 am
It was about speed. The remaining guys are faster and may have more value on special teams.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:01 pm
Durable which is what this wr group lacks but not going to win games for you
August 30th, 2022 at 12:05 pm
Fire Licht! He better be making a move for an OL. Why are we keeping Perriman? Miller is in Brady and BA’s doghouse, and Darden is a certified bum
August 30th, 2022 at 12:06 pm
I’m surprised and this guy is one heck of a 5th string receiver.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:06 pm
He did have one crucial catch
August 30th, 2022 at 12:06 pm
Darden also came back looking more cut and had a good camp. A lot of people hate his guts because he wasn’t good in the return game his rookie year. We could get at least something for Scotty in his contract year and leave it at seven with Perriman, Darden, Thompkins. I trust they do have some sort of plan for this.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:07 pm
Johnson isn’t as fast as Miller or Darden, and w/e role he had on offense he wasn’t producing enough to be held on to just to play offenses and no special teams. It’s really not hard to see what the team is doing with the WR room. Outside of our top 4, Miller, Darden, and even Perriman are our faster WRs rn and even Perriman I’m not too sure survived the last dozen or so players left to get to 53. Yes it stinks, but we’ve known we weren’t going to be able to keep a lot of our underneath talent at WR
August 30th, 2022 at 12:11 pm
Will go to the Packers and will burn Bucs
August 30th, 2022 at 12:12 pm
Well that was dumb!!
August 30th, 2022 at 12:13 pm
Darden wasn’t good at anything last year as a receiver. Six catches? Might as well not drafted anyone at all. Hope he steps up big this year, no more excuses. GOBUCS!
August 30th, 2022 at 12:14 pm
Seee yaaaa later dude never stepped up Brady said cut him
August 30th, 2022 at 12:15 pm
JUST WAIVED THOMPKINS! WHAT THE F#CK IS GOING ON???!!! Second best, young, cheap WR in camp.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:16 pm
TJ had his flaws but I’m still waiting to see what Darden has, so far nothing.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:20 pm
Noticed we waived all 3 rookie WR’s and TJ. Hmmm.
But for those clamoring for Wynn from the Pats, maybe Bill and Jason agreed to swap TJ for Wynn months ago? (I dunno, but that does sound like a great story…)
August 30th, 2022 at 12:22 pm
That means Scooter stays
August 30th, 2022 at 12:25 pm
If Darden makes the team with TJ and Thompkins being released, I need to reassess how much I think I understand about football.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:32 pm
IMO the best WR on the roster that was on the bubble list is Scotty by a mile…..So glad they keep him……
August 30th, 2022 at 12:33 pm
Scooter and Darden 2nd string but plays like 3rd string.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:35 pm
Julio will wear #18 or #19
August 30th, 2022 at 12:38 pm
With Godwin and Gage on deck, Bucs keeping speedy receivers at bottom of depth chart … for play calling and special teams purposes
August 30th, 2022 at 12:38 pm
I really hope they’re not going back to making retarded decisions.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:39 pm
Did they look at the film of Indy game? Darden put the ball on the ground and has done nothing in the return game. He must have a Glazer-Licht booty video.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:40 pm
Johnson’s most memorable play was drawing a pass interference in the NFC Championship. That won’t keep you on many rosters for very long. Surprised he beat out Darden though.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:41 pm
They might be planning on bringing Antonio back.😃
August 30th, 2022 at 12:41 pm
I get the WR room is full but honestly i cant understand the scenario when Darden makes the team and Johnson or Thompkins dont.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:45 pm
Amazing they couldn’t find ANYONE to trade him to… You would think they could’ve packaged HIM with a PICK for at least an Above Average OL!!!! Unbelievable.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:47 pm
They obviously, are NOT willing to do whatever it takes for NOT wanting to PAY anymore $$$$ on their OL.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:50 pm
Keeping Scotty Miller over Tyler Johnson let’s me know the competition was a farce and preseason performance meant nothing. It was a predetermined decision. Licht will lose a lot of respect in the locker room. TJ was a good guy and well liked by his teammates
August 30th, 2022 at 12:52 pm
Johnson had a bad habit of running his routes a yard short of the first down marker.
I’m sure he has been told about it, but he kept doing it.
Hopefully he won’t turn up on an opponent’s team.
Tompkins will, hopefully, be headed for the practice squad.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:52 pm
surprised on TJ…bet TB made the call to keep Scotty.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:55 pm
Almost seems like someone didn’t TRUST Tyler…. EVERY FAN thought for sure he was a lock.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:57 pm
16 on practice squad this year. Up from 14. 10 young guys 6 vets
August 30th, 2022 at 12:58 pm
I think this was pretty close between Tyler and Scotty. But we already have a few of Tylers type of receiver. And Scotty brings speed we need to open up the field. And Scotty looked like a decent gunner at time last year, as I remember.
August 30th, 2022 at 12:59 pm
Melvin, fortunately the guys in the front office are much much smarter than you. And me too at least as it concerns football decisions. The things most people complain about and mention that are obvious to us are more obvious to them. You think they don’t know we have o-line concerns? Please. They’ll sign somebody if they think he’s a good fit. They see much more of these players than we ever do. I have to believe that’s how most of these decisions are made. There is no cheaping out on a team with TB as quarterback.
August 30th, 2022 at 1:08 pm
It appears after the first 4…..Bucs are going for speed & special teams…..
But, I thought TJ was a pretty good receiver…..I’m sure Jason made some attempts to trade him but teams knew he was going to be cut…..still, I certainly think he was worth a 7th round pick.
August 30th, 2022 at 1:12 pm
Ain’t off the field. Won’t find a higher character dude. Come home to the Vikings!
August 30th, 2022 at 1:20 pm
New guy Thompkins made the list?
August 30th, 2022 at 1:22 pm
So this leaves Perriman, Miller and Darden.
DT has to be back on the practice squad.
Maybe even protected for a couple games.
I also hate losing Borregales unless succop can now hit 55 yarders.
Special Teams had to have Miller and Darden.
Perriman was a first rounder so pedigree and knowledge of the offense.
August 30th, 2022 at 1:28 pm
SorryJackChuckiesBack … ‘Well that was dumb!!’
I’ll second that. TJ caught 2 out of every 3 balls thrown to him (66.7%). That’s a heckuva lot better than Perriman (49.8% catch percentage), Darden (50.0%) and yes Scotty (58.0%). Tompkins & Geiger may be faster, but they’re a LOT smaller & I seriously doubt they’ll be nearly as good at blocking. That’s kinda an important part of a WRs job too.
Wasn’t happy that Bucs didn’t keep Cyril Grayson. Even more unhappy that Tyler Johnson got booted to the street. Those two at least had a decent amount of experience with TB12. Can’t say the same for some of the rest of them.
August 30th, 2022 at 1:33 pm
Craig Says:
“Johnson had a bad habit of running his routes a yard short of the first down”marker.”
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Strong observation Craig. I did notice in the Indy game, 2 different times that Bowles & Leftwich looked extremely agitated when the pass completion was short of the 1st down marker.
August 30th, 2022 at 1:46 pm
Speaking of route running, to my naked eye it looked like Tyler Johnson and Tom Brady were not on the same page when it came to running the correct route. With a questionable O Line, that is especially undesirable as you want the QB to get rid of that ball ASAP.
August 30th, 2022 at 1:56 pm
Should’ve been Darden.
August 30th, 2022 at 2:05 pm
It’s gotta be you can’t teach speed.
August 30th, 2022 at 2:07 pm
Dumb
August 30th, 2022 at 2:11 pm
I’m flabbergasted!
August 30th, 2022 at 2:15 pm
Crazy. Did not expect that. Or Logan Ryan!
August 30th, 2022 at 2:27 pm
Dear Lord, this means Miller is safe? I’m dumbfounded by this decision. Anyone who doesn’t think Brady had a hand in this, isn’t paying attention. TJ isn’t perfect by any means. But, Miller is a one trick pony, who can’t stay healthy. I thought once they signed Julio, it spelled the end for Miller. Turns out it was TJ who was in trouble. I saw absolutely nothing from Miller in the pre-season. I agree totally with @Bucsfan13. It amazes me that Miller is still living off one catch in the NFC title game. It was extraordinarily bad coverage, and a perfect throw from Brady, nothing special that Miller did. “Taking the top off the defense” is the most overrated maxim in football.
August 30th, 2022 at 2:34 pm
First off… told you.
People here telling me I was the idiot for pointing out that TJ is likely going to be gone unless we keep 7 WRs.
The issue is upside. TJ lacks speed. He is NOT Chris Godwin, Godwin is a 4.4 guy, TJ is a 4.7 guy. In the NFL, that’s the difference between an All-Pro player and working at Burger King.
Nothing against TJ, but late last year, he had his chance to show what he could do after we had all the injuries, and he flat out couldn’t get open vs starting caliber players. So if that is the case, what is the upside with TJ? He’s always going to be a #4 or #5 WR unless he can find another gear, and that’s hard to do.
TJ is an excellent blocker, and I said over the offseason the Bucs should have talked to him about bulking up and becoming a Tim Wright type of TE, where he could build off his good blocking, and where his lack of speed isn’t a problem because he’d be playing vs a lot of LBers.
But TJ played over 600 snaps last season, that’s a ton, and there was little to show for it. If the question was Scotty or TJ, you go with Scotty since he offers you something you don’t have anywhere else on the team, and that is flat out speed.
TJ will get a chance to play somewhere else, and on a bad team with no WR depth might do OK through pure volume, but that lack of speed is always going to cap his production.
August 30th, 2022 at 2:46 pm
Now, with that said, if they somehow keep Darden over TJ, that’s a huge misjustice. Darden has shown absolutely nothing so far and certainly doesn’t deserve to make the team of TJ.
But I assume they’re just waiting until the last minute to cut Darden, hoping they can get a draft pick for him. I don’t know why they’d bother, however, since no one is picking him up if they watched his preseason tape.
August 30th, 2022 at 3:07 pm
That’s a WTF. Then again GM #12 says who stays, who goes.
August 30th, 2022 at 3:10 pm
Really thought the Stuard trade was stupid. Dude had the talent & played well on special teams, too!
August 30th, 2022 at 3:13 pm
Johnson reminds me a little of Clayton. Weakest part are the hands, too many drops. Otherwise a great talent. Not surprised he is released, might make it back to the practice squad.
August 30th, 2022 at 3:14 pm
WOW
I thought he was a lock as the # 5 receiver. I guess they just got sick of having one drop…
every
single
game.
August 30th, 2022 at 3:21 pm
I have no skin in the game between Scotty Miller and Tyler Johnson.
It is funny to me that so many fans today suddenly love Tyler and dislike Scotty though.
Miller was a 6th rounder, Johnson was a 5th rounder.
Clearly in 2021, Johnson was better. However, Miller was injured.
Clearly in 2020, Miller was better than Johnson.
Maybe the Bucs think they have the 2020 Miller.
I want to see what Maniac Buc has to say today.
He was on here 10 plus times saying that Scotty Miller was clearly off the team and Tyler Johnson was clearly on the team come cut time BECAUSE HE HAD INSIDER KNOWLEDGE
August 30th, 2022 at 3:39 pm
Yall must be loosing ya minds. Let’s start with he’s slow (u will hear that again) & not a good route runner. Ah but he’s been balling in preseason against all those nobodies. He makes hard catches and drops easy ones. Tom won’t miss this dude. He doesn’t stretch the field like Scotty does, doesn’t return kicks like Darden does. As for Perriman It’s a veteran thing, he plays all WR sets, very versatile when healthy. Johnson will NOT make it through wavers, he WILL get picked up, he WONT get open when covered by NFL caliber backs and will always have to make hard contested catches because the dude is always covered cause he slow (I told u). I wish him well! Now Lets Go Bucs.
August 30th, 2022 at 3:40 pm
I’m so sick of this Scotty Miller worship. Stop with the nostalgia!! He had his chance when our receivers went down in the Saints game. He did nothing. The Saints didn’t respect him at all. If Scotty is in the game, teams know he will only run one route. I hope to God Tom had no say in this decision. I think we are overestimating Tom’s power. Why haven’t they got another OL if Tom had so much power. I doubt he wants to go with an inexperienced LG and C.
This “trust in Licht” is has become a cult mantra at this point. Licht isn’t perfect, and this in house strategy of playing OL is awful. TJ was popular in the locker room. Expect backlash from the players against Brady if this was his decision. The team is playing favorites by keeping Miller. I’m so upset.
August 30th, 2022 at 3:41 pm
Thought TJ had #5 spot for sure. Definitely surprised.
August 30th, 2022 at 3:46 pm
The reason you keep Miller, assuming they do, is because he does something no one else on the team can, he can run by guys, when healthy, and has shown excellent timing with Brady. If he was truly injured last year, and this year he’s truly healthy, then he gives you a home run threat. Perriman, even with his college 4.2 speed, has never shown that in the NFL really. With Miller, if he hits a few of those homerun balls a year, that’s enough for defenses to play you differently and have to protect over the top when he’s out there. With TJ, he’s just your basic 3rd and 5 guy who will get you 6. Nothing wrong with that, but the team already has those guys, and you can’t keep everyone. I’m sure TJ will latch on with someone and might even be OK with them, but his lack of speed is always going to cap what he can be – and he is NOT Godwin, never was, never can be. Maybe, on a bad team, he can be a #3 WR, but on the Bucs, he’s a #6 or #7 WR and likely wouldn’t even be active on gamedays.
Ideally he would have twisted an ankle or something in Indy, maybe that’s why they played him the whole game, then you could hide him on IR for the year.
August 30th, 2022 at 3:52 pm
TJ dropped too many passes in his time with the Bucs
August 30th, 2022 at 3:54 pm
I brought it up the other day, but assuming they keep Perriman, it’s all about his contract. The Bucs guaranteed his deal, $1m, and while that’s not a lot of money – it’s the cap space that matters, since if you cut Perriman you’re eating that $1m AND you have to then sign someone to replace him. The Bucs, with about $6m in cap space available, and needing to save some for future injuries, can’t really afford to eat that $1m, no unless they absolutely needed to. I’ll add the asterisk on his contract, that I’m going based off what I saw at the cap sites, and so if that info is wrong, my point is invalid.
Also, when Perriman was actually healthy at the end of 2019, he legit looked pretty good in this offense. If everyone else got injured, and you had to start Perriman or TJ, it’s not even close who you’d choose, Perriman has the physical skills required.
August 30th, 2022 at 4:04 pm
It’s terrible, but they probably have to make room for an O-lineman.
August 30th, 2022 at 4:10 pm
I’m so sick of this Tyler Johnson worship. Stop deciding he was good enough based upon practice notes from this site.
He had his chance last year with over 600 snaps and did barely anything during that time.
Further, if Tyler is in the game, the other team knows he is the slowest dude on the field so even if he makes a catch there is no potential for him to make a big play. Over 600 snaps last year and only 14 1st downs on the NFL’s 2nd best offense last year. He did nothing.
Please trust in Licht over these armchair GM’s on this site. They act like they perfectly understand. The ridiculousness of someone suggesting that there will be backlash in the locker room for things that Brady did or the team letting go Johnson is absurd.
August 30th, 2022 at 4:21 pm
@geno711 The worship of Miller is undeniable. Tj has been more productive than him and has fewer drops. Keep living in the past. I guess Miller is gonna eat for years based off of that one catch. The competition in camp was a farce. Miller did nothing to make a case to stay. TJ had a great preseason. Since you seem to know all about the team on this board, state your case for keeping Miller and Perriman over TJ. Use numbers instead of anecdotal evidence.
August 30th, 2022 at 4:23 pm
If Licht is a big fan of AC/DC I’m kind of wondering if he’s been living on HAVE A DRINK ON ME. DIZZY DRUNK & FIGHTING TEQUILA WHITE LIGHTNING! He might be hitting a little too much of them.
August 30th, 2022 at 4:25 pm
I guess Tom (I will take time off when i get ready) did not want TJ around.
August 30th, 2022 at 4:51 pm
Drops. And a lack of speed. Better this preseason, but nothing special.
This WR corps is full of half-baked as it is. Scotty has one route and speed. Why is he still around? Darden, Grayson…inconsistent, neither here nor there, maybe/maybe not/flashes. Quintessential Licht Bucs.
August 30th, 2022 at 4:57 pm
I got no big issue with this. Once we signed Julio I thought Johnsons job was in jeporady. It is still suprizing because he looked really good in the Preseason games. In the end what will stick out to me is Tyler not being in the right spot and losing Bradys trust.
He is also not an effective Soecial Teamer. Not good from a #5 WR on a team that needs ST help in a big way. For this same reason I do think it would be wise to keep Miller.
August 30th, 2022 at 5:00 pm
As long as Darden goes, all will be well. Whenever Darden is mentioned in games, swiftly the disappointment follows. Glad that Perriman is still with Bucs!
August 30th, 2022 at 5:03 pm
Evans
Godwin
Jones
Gage
Perriman
There’s 5 of the guaranteed 6 right there
August 30th, 2022 at 5:03 pm
Geno good point about the 600 snaps.
But to be fair I think some like Johnson based on more then just practice notes they read. Johnson basically took over in the 1st preseason game and played really well in the other 2. I would not be suprized if he latches on somewhere and has a nice season as a #3. Could maybe even see him as a #2 at some point.
August 30th, 2022 at 5:06 pm
“Trust in Licht” The cult mantra by fans. Don’t ever question God. Starting to think Geno works for the team.
August 30th, 2022 at 5:12 pm
JimmyJack Says:
August 30th, 2022 at 5:03 pm
Fair point.
I just really not a fan either way between Johnson and Miller. Sure, Johnson produced more last year but people forget Miller was hurt.
53 Man Roster after Jenson to IR tomorrow.
QB: Brady, Gabbert, Trask
RB: Fournette, White, Vaughn, Bernard
WR: Evans, Godwin, Jones, Gage, Johnson, Miller, Perriman.
TE: Rudolph, Brate, Otton, Kieft
OL: Smith, Goedeke, Hainsey, Mason, Wirfs, Wells, Leverett, Johnson, Walton.
DL: Vea, Hicks, Gholston, Hall, Nunez-Roches, O’Connor.
OLB: Barrett, Tryon-Shoyinka, Nelson, Nassib.
ILB: David, White, Britt, Fatukasi.
CB: Davis, Dean, Murphy-Bunting, McCollum, Delaney.
S: Winfield, Edwards, Neal, Ryan (re-signed Wednesday after release).
K Succop, P Camarda, LS Triner.
August 30th, 2022 at 5:16 pm
Darden must have some compromising photos of Jason. When you have a guy the other team kicks it short on kick offs to on purpose, that should tell you something. Touchbacks goes to the 25, Darden good to the 15. Hum. Not sure how this kid can still cash an nfl paycheck.
August 30th, 2022 at 5:19 pm
There is a reason he got cut and not traded. The Bucs must have shopped him and no takers tells you something,
August 30th, 2022 at 5:20 pm
Bruce Arians asked:
You’ve watched this team for the past month since the start of camp. Without giving much away, who has impressed you?
Jaelon Darden made great strides in spring and camp…
Rachaad White is everything I hoped he would be.
The draft guys nailed it. You never know until you get them out there, but White is going to be a hell of a player.
August 30th, 2022 at 5:25 pm
A receiver with average hands and slow speed and poor route running and not great on special teams. Gee, how could the Bucs give him away? I did like TJ for his physical toughness but that isn’t enough on this team. I think Scotty makes the team because of his speed and connection with Brady and as a gunner on special teams.
August 30th, 2022 at 5:51 pm
Scotty out here making a career out of 2 catches 2 years ago
August 30th, 2022 at 6:04 pm
Biff Barker Says:
August 30th, 2022 at 5:19 pm
There is a reason he got cut and not traded. The Bucs must have shopped him and no takers tells you something,
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Correct, there’s no doubt the Bucs attempted to trade him and found no takers. Although that doesn’t mean no one will be interested, I have zero doubt he’ll latch on somewhere, and if not the Bucs would certainly bring back on the practice squad. But teams aren’t going to trade for him when they know he’s going to be cut.
August 30th, 2022 at 6:24 pm
Tennessee Titans fans are clamoring for him already!!
August 30th, 2022 at 6:44 pm
Geno agreed about Rashaaaaaard White. Between him a Kieft I love all the different looks we can use in our backfield this year. Could be very helpful while young OL players get up to speed.
August 30th, 2022 at 7:13 pm
And how is Darden still on the team. Ridiculous.
August 30th, 2022 at 9:24 pm
He doesn’t play special teams and he doesn’t try to block. He just doesn’t show the effort he needs to in those areas to be a backup receiver, especially with his size.
August 30th, 2022 at 10:14 pm
Bucsfan13 Says:
August 30th, 2022 at 4:21 pm
@geno711
“State your case for keeping Miller and Perriman over TJ. Use numbers instead of anecdotal evidence.”
Ok if the Bucs kept TJ or Scotty. Just not sure the hate on Scotty from you Bucsfan13 or why you think the teammate care more about TJ than Scotty. Just did not make sense.
If you want another number besides how slow TJ was and only had 14 1st downs on over 600 snaps last year, here is another comparison.
In 2020, Miller had 33 receptions for 501 yards and 3 Tds and 20 1st downs in a total of 440 snaps.
That production is clearly better than Tyler Johnsons production in 2021.
In 2021, TJ had 36 receptions for 360 yards and 0 Tds and 14 1st downs in a total of 612 snaps.
No come on Bucsfan13. Clearly Miller has had a better statistical season than Johnson.
You asked for the stats. Admit it, Miller had a better statistical year in a Bucs uniform than Tyler Johnson.
August 31st, 2022 at 12:01 am
Go back and look at the Rams playoff game. Twice Brady yelled at TJ for slowing his route. Both could have been interceptions. I guarantee if we weren’t short on receivers, TJ would have been gone. Brady doesn’t like when receivers slow down when they don’t think the ball is coming to them. You might be his 4th read, bit you better be where he wants you.
August 31st, 2022 at 12:42 am
@Sparky. That’s absolutely right. Josh McDaniels spoke about this when Donte Stallworth failed to run his fully because he was the last read. Tom let him hear it.
August 31st, 2022 at 9:30 am
TJ needed to step up against the Rams in the playoffs. His lack thereof sealed his fate. It’s time for Scotty, Perriman, and Darden to step up and be all they can be!!
August 31st, 2022 at 9:42 am
I trust the coaches of arguably the best passing offense over the past 3 years to select the best available receivers to operate in it taking in consideration the need for these players to operate on special teams too!