Does The Signing Of Carl Nassib Mean Jason Pierre-Paul Is Done?

August 16th, 2022

Did JPP turn down Bucs?

One of the greatest thefts of Bucs’ AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht’s tenure was when he swindled Jason Pierre-Paul from then-Giants general manager Dave Gettleman for a third-round pick in March of 2018.

That third-round pick turned out to be such a huge foundation in the Bucs’ 2020 Super Bowl team.

A little more than a year after the Bucs won that Super Bowl, JPP was gone. And here we are in mid-August with teams starting to whittle down their rosters, and JPP is still unemployed.

Yesterday, the Bucs brought back a guy who did really well for them in 2018 and 2019, Carl Nassib. In those two years at outside linebacker, Nassib played in 29 games (17 starts) had 12.5 sacks and 38 quarterback pressures. He left as a free agent and Chucky swooped in.

With the Bucs looking for a backup outside linebacker in the wake of Cam Gill’s foot injury, Nassib was brought back yesterday.

It made Joe wonder a few things:

Did the Bucs even attempt to sign JPP? Did JPP even want to return to the Bucs?

Joe remembers when JPP hopped on a private jet as he packed up his belongings to head back to South Florida, JPP had a video on his Instagram stories account where he was laughing hysterically and hollering, “Bye-bye, Tampa!” And then JPP referred to the city as a “‘ho.”

Shortly after Joe posted an article linking to that very video, JPP took it down. What was he ashamed of?

Joe has no idea if the Bucs reached out to JPP, who this offseason had surgery on his rotator cuff which pretty much rendered him useless last year. But if the Bucs chose to bring in Nassib over JPP, Joe wonders if that is a sure sign that JPP’s NFL career is shot?

47 Responses to “Does The Signing Of Carl Nassib Mean Jason Pierre-Paul Is Done?”

  1. Derek Says:

    Jpp also made a post on his instagram less than a month ago saying he gave Tampa 4 good years. Must have known there was zero percent chance of returning

  2. Goatfarmer Says:

    $$$ likely a factor — JPP will go play for anyone for the minimum now, if he wants to play — certainly Licht got Nassib for less than JPP’s ask.


  3. TBChucky Says:

    JPP wouldn’t want to come back as a rotational piece, IMO. Like the Nassib signing. Good depth piece. I enjoyed his game when he was here.

  4. westernbuc Says:

    Is Nassib going to need to take a day off if some mean emails get leaked?

  5. Maniac Buc Says:

    @Joe, Ho is slang word. For example, if I was in Vegas, and I posted a picture of me with the city in this back drop, I would say, “I’m up in this ho”. If I see some shoes I like, I would say, “Them Hoes are nice”. It’s the same as saying “them joints are nice” or “them thangs are nice”. It’s not used in a derogatory way. Hope that helps a little bit. I don’t personally use the word in that way, but much of the young generation 40 and under do!

  6. steele Says:

    The answer is yes, but shouldn’t be.

    Nassib is not a great pass rusher. Low single digit sacks in all seasons except his two slightly better (6) with Bucs. Avg of 3.6 sacks. Absolutely mediocre. And remember he was famous for missing tackles when he left the Bucs.

    He didn’t make an impact for the Raiders, and teams were not clamoring to sign him. He’s most famous for coming out, an LGBT hero.

    If Bowles/Licht is serious about contending, they need another. Trey Flowers, Attaochou, someone better than single-digit sack Carl.

  7. sasquatch Says:

    JPP was done long before the Nassib signing. Giving his number to Logan Hall was a clue don’tcha think?

  8. Bobby M. Says:

    There’s been chatter the team was worn out with JPP. When healthy he was a gamer, unfortunately he was often hurt….sometimes from his own blunders in the offseason. He freelanced on plays….wasn’t as disciplined as one might hope. The Bucs have a culture with a very high standard, not sure JPP meshed all that well with the Brady way. Someone will pick him up….just not us.

  9. steele Says:

    Even in Nassib’s best two seasons with the Bucs, his sacks and a lot of his splash plays were secondary-impact. Typical: QBs flushed out of the pocket by others, and Nassib, who is blocked, happens to be in the right place to tackle him. He’s got a motor but is hardly ever the first to get to a QB.

    It is too late in FA to get anyone great, too many guys washed or underperformers like Carl, but I would have preferred some creativity. Everson Griffen, Trey Flowers, Takk McKinley etc all better pass rushers.

    This roster needs better than a rotational backup, which is what Carl is.

  10. firethecannons Says:

    Nassib was the best we could do? Hope he still has a motor cause he did nothing for Raiders.

  11. Bucs Win Says:

    JPP was a great player. He’s done.

  12. steele Says:

    Bobby M, I don’t see the Bucs doing a lot of things “the Brady way”, except placating him with Julio and Kyle Rudolph.

    They’re doing it the “Bowles/Arians/Leftwich” way, treating Brady as just any starting QB. No special treatment, he gets what is, too bad. Risky OL and DL. Rookies and question marks. “Continuity”.

    Losing this season is less important, it appears, than the continuing progress of Hainsey, JTS, Trask, Logan Hall, etc.

  13. CleanHouse Says:

    JPP and Suh are two of the biggest reasons this team was even good

    It’s ridiculous garbage to not have both of them on the team.
    And the team deserves to suck because of its arrogance on this matter.
    I like Nassib as a player but heard he acted like a clown all the time.

    I’d rather have two angry old beasts than a clown.

    Get your head right Licht!!

    Bowles…don’t turn this into Jets south

  14. Capt.Tim Says:

    JPP was an absolute warrior for us.
    Whatever happens, he will be missed here.
    I wish him the best.

  15. Mike C Says:

    Cleanhouse, get a grip

  16. Melvin Junior Says:

    Like, a Hell “Ho,” or “Ho,” as in… Tampa, That Place Is A Real “Ho?” Hmmmm…

  17. Buc4evr Says:

    Nassib was probably cheap by comparison to JPP. Still need to sign SUH.

  18. lambeau Says:

    JPP never comes off the field –does he want to share snaps with Tryon?
    At this point, there’s no room for JPP.

  19. Nutterbuccer Says:

    JPP was great when healthy. He’s a 33 year old woth a torm rotator cuff and doesn’t want to be 4th string. Nassib is a solid depth piece who could easily be the number 3 de or start of necessary om a very good defense. We should all be happy to have him as the #4. For those clamoring for SUH. He probably wants 10 million a year and a chance to start which is the reason he is no longer here. How many old guys are we gonna get. We have to think about the now and the future. This team is set up for success all over the field….as long as Trask or whoever starts after brady doesn’t throw 30 interceptions a year we will contend for the division title for years to come.

  20. bucschamps Says:

    yeah maybe JPP and Suh dont want to be rotation players. aside from $

  21. Listnfrmafar Says:

    JPP can still ball when healthy, probably wanted too much money.

  22. Listnfrmafar Says:

    I’m really liking the defense moves. Suh would be a great addition.

  23. FrontFour Says:

    Nassib was average when he was here. Doubt an older version will help much.

  24. SB~LV Says:

    JPP is a Playoff specialist and does not need to play the first 13 weeks of the season

  25. Defense Rules Says:

    Carl Nassib replaces Cam Gill, assuming he makes the final 53 of course. I like Gill, but in the 25 games he got into over 2 years he had a total of 1.5 sacks, 3 QB Hits & 1 TFL. It’s not exactly like he set the world on fire & was poised for a huge year.

    Nassib hasn’t exactly set the world on fire either (22 sacks, 53 QB Hits & 39 TFLs in 6 years), BUT … his 2 years with us were by far his most productive (12.5 sacks, 25 QB Hits, 20 TFLs). Carl cashed in on those 2 good years (don’t blame him), so now let’s see if he can get back to those kinds of numbers. Obviously hope he does; we’re the beneficiaries.

  26. BucsfanFred Says:

    Bring the marshmallows and graham crackers and nassib will whip up a Colorado campfire.

  27. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Nassib replaces Cam Gill….not JPP….or another top edge rusher….

    I think it’s a good point that JPP not only wants to start…he wants all the snaps…..I’m not sure if JPP would respond well to a backup role.

    We needed another edge rusher before Gill went down….we still need one.

  28. BucsfanFred Says:

    Gill might be back. If he can clear waivers put him on IR after final cuts like Jenson.

  29. BucsfanFred Says:

    One BUCS site is slobbering all over Nassib as though he’s an All Pro or something. He’s ok, I guess, but no superstar.

  30. Killian Says:

    Any chance we bring back Suh? As far as Nassib, seems like he regressed with the Raiders. I’d like to see Anthony Nelson get more snaps this season.

  31. BucsfanFred Says:

    I like Nelson too. I thought Gill was coming on too. Ponder looks ok. Ponder and Nassib better be ST ballers. No Carl, NOT that kind of baller.

  32. Gofortheface30 Says:

    Thanks maniac buc for the urban slang lesson. Reconfirms my belief that the world needs less people, not more..

  33. D-Rome Says:

    Nassib is a good player. Good to see him back on the team.

  34. Georger Says:

    Nassib was a part time player and he had 12 1/2 sacks in the two years here. That’s pretty good. We would be happy if Gill got 6 sacks this year in a part time roll

  35. Bojim Says:

    Glad we finally signed Nassib.

  36. mark2001 Says:

    Ever see Dick Butkus try to play in his last year? Very sad… the attitude to clean up the pile was still there, but everything was in slow motion compared to his glory years. It’s better to burn out, than fade away. Glad we didn’t have to watch JPP fade away.

  37. geno711 Says:

    Mark2001. Good point. I agree.
    JPP surgery probably makes him ineffective, and all of the NFL knows that.

  38. gotbbucs Says:

    JPP was done before the halfway point of last year.

    This is a business and JPP was giving us negative equity most of last year. His explosiveness is gone and so are the big checks. They go hand in hand.

    Nassib has always been better as a rotational player. That’s just some guys niche. They aren’t all built to be full time starters.

  39. geno711 Says:

    CleanHouse Says:
    August 16th, 2022 at 2:15 am

    “I like Nassib as a player but heard he acted like a clown all the time.

    I’d rather have two angry old beasts than a clown.”

    I doubt you have a source that suggest that Nassib acted like a clown.
    In fact, in 2019, the Bucs players voted him a team captain.

  40. Buccobruce Says:

    Great now we got a locker room drama.

  41. matthew veal Says:

    Just prove it again, Mr. Nassib. Best bet on the table. Sorry for being charmless.

  42. SteelStudBuc Says:

    I thought JPP said “We outta this hole”

  43. Brandon Says:

    Nassib is great… A super high effort guy that’s plenty strong and fast enough. Offers versatility at both OLB spots, occasionally at the 3 tech, and also DE on four man lines. Very good signing if he’s the same old Carl. He knows this D backwards and forwards.

  44. Statguy Says:

    As much as I love him and willing to prove doubters wrong, he was done last year

  45. George Says:

    Nassib should be a solid contributor . Also has the respect of Bowles. Glad the team picked him up.

  46. Bucsfan13 Says:

    Nassib hasn’t contributed that much lately. This was a knee jerk signing by Licht. I think Bowles valued familiarity over production. One thing i hate about this signing you have social justice warriors nagging the team about what they think of his sexuality. I already read an article saying that Brady hasn’t spoken up about the LGBTQ community.

  47. Chris Tucker@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    It has been said that JPP is flipping houses these days, to make money.
    I would expect him to sign with Mark Spain Real Estate before he signs with the Bucs, or any other NFL Team.