Promising Start For Joe Tryon-Shoyinka
July 23rd, 2022
Solid rookie numbers.
Joe understands some Bucs fans were disappointed in 2021 first round pick Joe Tryon-Shoyinka because the edge rusher didn’t get double-digit sacks. That expectation is just unfair.
Rarely do rookies not named “Bosa” rack up double-digit sacks. The NFL is a whole new game. Rather than getting past children who sometimes play tackle in college, these guys face grown-arse men like Trent Williams and Tristan Wirfs. One move isn’t going to cut it.
One famous NFL analyst believes JTS had a nice rookie year and is due for even bigger and better things. That analyst is Warren Sharp. In breaking down the Bucs with intense statistical analysis in his Warren Sharp’s 2022 Football Preview, Sharp says the numbers show JTS, when on the field rushing the passer, was not just a warm body.
Tampa Bay loaded up for the future when the Buccaneers selected Joe Tryon-Shoyinka in the first round of last year’s draft and they got an immediate return. Tryon-Shoyinka ranked 20th among edge rushers in pressure rate while he added 10 quarterback hits on 49% of the defensive snaps. He’ll get more playing time in Year 2.
So if JTS played 49 percent of the defensive snaps, if you double that then his quarterback hits come out to 20 for nearly all the defensive snaps. Shaq Barrett, who played 15 games, led the Bucs with 22 quarterback hits while playing 76 percent of the snaps. Percentage-wise, edge rusher Anthony Nelson was better than both with 10 quarterback hits in just 31 percent of the snaps.
Joe can see why Sharp is bullish on the future of JTS with the Bucs, and how JTS has a lot of room to improve.
July 23rd, 2022 at 11:07 am
I’ve never understood the default negativity towards this guy. Some people love to complain about rookies if they’re not instant Pro-Bowlers. Some people just love to complain about every player, or whoever the latest punching bag is. JTS somehow found himself in the crosshairs of that club. I believe he’ll be silencing those people this year.
July 23rd, 2022 at 11:11 am
I can hear #8 thinking………. Suh.
July 23rd, 2022 at 11:11 am
JTS is going to go a long ways in the NFL because he has a long ways to go.
July 23rd, 2022 at 11:12 am
If he can stay healthy he’ll lead the bucs in sacks this year.
July 23rd, 2022 at 11:22 am
He will not have JPP or Suh, but he will have Aikeem Hicks who will provide pressure up the middle.
July 23rd, 2022 at 11:30 am
JTS has a lightning-quick first step, he just needs to develop moves and counter-moves, not to mention strength-training. The latter is the easiest to work on, the former is what separates the men from the boys on the EDGE.
July 23rd, 2022 at 11:47 am
The DL (including OLBs) looks very strong this year. Exciting times for the whole defense, imo. Can’t wait.
July 23rd, 2022 at 12:03 pm
We’ll see.
Go Bucs!!!
July 23rd, 2022 at 12:27 pm
No issues with Tryon as a passrusher. What Im looking for is to see him play much better in his LB role.
We did see Bowles play him on the interior some last year. Todd the Godd likes to find mismatches, if this Logan Hall dude can also add some versatility to our Front I think we will see a lot more heat on opposing QBs this year.
July 23rd, 2022 at 12:33 pm
The guy who literally complains about everything is talking about complaining
😂
July 23rd, 2022 at 12:48 pm
Bust
July 23rd, 2022 at 12:53 pm
JTS definitely looks like he put work in at the gym this year. Kids is gonna be a stud
July 23rd, 2022 at 12:58 pm
Considering the year prior to the NFL draft, JST sat out of college and had a awesome year with the Bucs. For people to not realize his potential going forward is deafening.
July 23rd, 2022 at 1:17 pm
Hey, if JTS sacks Stafford at least three times in the Rams game, he’ll totally have my respect. Until then, though, he and the rest of the D better be thinking of nothing but crushing the Rams.
July 23rd, 2022 at 1:24 pm
Now that the one armed, three fingered, dead legged JPP is gone, Joe will get his chance.
July 23rd, 2022 at 1:52 pm
I know that Sapp was a defensive tackle, but he was all world coming out of college and had a big, whopping 3 sacks his first year. Joe, getting 4 sacks his first year as the last pick in the first round sounds about right to me. He also missed his last year in college due to the sickness, so I’ll judge em by what he does this year.
July 23rd, 2022 at 1:59 pm
He’s not good enough to have three names….
July 23rd, 2022 at 2:18 pm
Given the Bucs current roster, he’d better step up.
Both Gaines Adams and Noah Spence had better rookie years than JTS. Their rookie years were their NFL high points. We’re all hoping for better from JTS. I’ll believe it when he produces and stops running 23 yards past the quarterback.
July 23rd, 2022 at 2:33 pm
Joe just loves the Bosa thing. Here are the actual numbers:
Joey bosa rookie year 10.5 sacks
Nick bosa rookie year 9 sacks
John bosa entire career seven sacks
So exactly 33.3% of the bosa’s in the NFL had 10 sacks their rookie year. But I digress.
July 23rd, 2022 at 2:55 pm
If and when he becomes a starter and if he has put on muscle weight then his numbers will be increased to a respectable total. His rookie year was not very formidable. Time will show and tell just what he’s made of.
July 23rd, 2022 at 3:04 pm
Bring on Anthony Nelson. There is little said about him. I am looking forward to seeing how he has progressed. The man looks to have potential.
July 23rd, 2022 at 3:28 pm
Cam Gill.
July 23rd, 2022 at 3:56 pm
Anthony Nelson is a decent backup with limited upside.
July 23rd, 2022 at 4:34 pm
Among the great sack-masters, JJ Watt had 5.5 sacks his rookie season and 20.5 his next year. No telling where JTS is headed.
I do agree he he has the ability to frequently get to the quarterback, but sadly it’s for a wave hello as he inexplicably runs past the thrower into the unknown.
Maybe the rule; ‘no hitting the QB during practice’ has rubbed off a little too much.
July 23rd, 2022 at 4:55 pm
Joe, still don’t understand why some comments just disappear … POOF. There’s no bad words in there; no negative commentary. Just POOF, you’re cancelled.
July 23rd, 2022 at 5:07 pm
We need JTS to step up in a big way this year. He’s deff talented. I hope he blows up this season. If he does I think the Bucs have a top 10 defense
July 23rd, 2022 at 5:08 pm
Bird Says:
July 23rd, 2022 at 12:33 pm
There are reasonable complaints and unreasonable complaints. JTS bashing falls into the latter. Please try to keep up.
July 23rd, 2022 at 5:46 pm
The only thing conclusive about JTS is he is talented with a lot room to grow. He had a few moments. But so many times he would take himself out of the play by over running. Hopefully he takes a leap just by understanding a lot more how to play his position. If he really learns his positon, this guy can be dominant, which is why the Bucs drafted him Time will tell.
GO BUCS!!!!
July 23rd, 2022 at 5:47 pm
It’s not that he isn’t Bosa. It’s that he did not get playing time. They decided a one armed JPP was better than a rookie. That’s that. The rookie year is over. Now we get to see this kid in action.
July 23rd, 2022 at 7:34 pm
I will never forget the excitement from our coaches and Licht in the draft room when we drafted him. It’s time for us to see what they saw. I can’t wait! (but I have to dammit).
July 23rd, 2022 at 8:00 pm
JTS was raw coming out of college, and raw last season. He has a lot of work to do, and seems to be doing it, but expectations were high. The need for sacks and more pressure was extreme, and there’s where the disappointment comes from.
The same pressure is going to be heaped on Logan Hall this year.
As long as the expectations are for another SB in a small window of time with ancient TB12, it would be far better to field a team full of all-star veterans to go head on with the likes of the Rams. but that isn’t what we have. The whole idea of throwing rookies into starting positions is full of risk. It isn’t fair to these kids, who deserve 2-3 seasons to get it together.
July 23rd, 2022 at 8:09 pm
this guy is why JPP isn’t resigned. He had a lot of potential and is a hyper athletic player. If he stays healthy and keeps grinding, sky is the limit.
July 23rd, 2022 at 9:05 pm
All you bit ching about this guy are Absolutely RIGHT! He is a bust in the making. Darden too
July 23rd, 2022 at 9:26 pm
Very very very few times will I ever defend bashing a rookie. They are rookies. I don’t care if he’s first round or fifth round, the ones that blow up and absolutely excel in their rookie year are the very rare few, regardless of position. Probably the hardest position to excel at as a rookie is edge rusher. In today’s modern NFL it’s probably even more difficult then quarterback.
Now that he is more familiar with the defense, thinking less and just reacting, I expect a big jump from JTS. From what we’ve read, he has put in the work this off-season to improve. I also really want to see Anthony Nelson pick up where he left off too.
Probably the most important thing for both of them and Shaq is seeing Vita Vea increasing his workload to about 70% of the snaps on D.
July 23rd, 2022 at 10:21 pm
He has put on some weight that he needed coming into the NFL. He does have great technique and speed, but no he wasn’t a lengthy first round JPP that so many were expecting. And now he has an amazing defensive coaching staff to learn and develop his game.
July 24th, 2022 at 12:11 am
Never understood why Bowles had him play the spy so much on running QBs. He’s fast for an edge rusher, which makes him just slow enough to get burned by a good running QB. Devon White should be the spy while JTS focuses on outside contain.
July 24th, 2022 at 10:30 am
People complain about the rookie is ignorant and have to learn how the players take some time to develop hope this kid has a breakout season would be great asset to help us win another ring
July 24th, 2022 at 11:23 am
I do think the kid has great athletic ability. And he should be better this year. I loved the way he chased down runners from behind after they initially looked to headed for a big gain. Great natural athletiscm. A second training camp and preseason should make a big difference. Hope he really shows up! If he doesn’t pan out as a pass rusher I think he could be an awesome tight end with his height and speed if he has the soft hands for it. And Brady tends to throw high. The kid would dwarf most dbs.