Defense Getting Mitts On Passes
July 29th, 2022
Handsy Jamel Dean.
Tom Brady had today off. It was a Vet Day issued by Bucs coach Todd Bowles. That means Mike Evans, Lavonte David, Cam Brate and Brady got to relax.
And maybe this was a factor in what highlighted today’s practice.
Bucs defenders were getting their hands on the football. Unfortunately, most were not picks.
So the defense had a steady diet of backup quarterbacks. Yes, Kyle Trask got a lot of snaps, not even Clyde Christensen could get a way around that today. And yes, Blaine Gabbert and Ryan Griffin got a lot of work in, too.
(Read into this what you wish: If Tom Brady’s confidence in taking snaps from backup center Robert Hainsey was iffy, wouldn’t you think a workaholic like Brady would be out there today taking snaps from Hainsey, even on the side if Brady had a day off? Brady was nowhere to be found on the practice fields of One Buc Palace. Joe guesses he was working on something related to that dreadful movie with Hanoi Jane.)
Two guys who had their mitts on passed balls were Shaq Barrett and Jamel Dean.
Early in 11-on-11s, Ryan Griffin tried to throw to his right for J.J. Howland and Shaq broke the pass up. Shaq thought he should have had it. He jumped up and down and slapped his hands together in frustration that he didn’t house the ball.
Later, Kyle Trask was trying to get the ball to the left side for Cade Otton. Instead, the ball hit Jamel Dean right in the hands. Joe means in the hands, like Joe would not be surprised to hear Dean jammed a finger because the pass hit him so squarely in the hands.
And, you guessed it, Dean couldn’t haul the ball in. He juggled the ball like he was trying out for Ringling Bros., and ran at least three steps as he kept bobbling the ball before the ball hit the turf.
Those two were not the only two defenders to get handsy with the footballs. The defense had its share of tipped passes. Joe Tryon-Shoyinka and Logan Ryan each got picks off tipped passes. For Ryan, it was his second pick of a tipped pass in three days.
Again, Joe doesn’t know if this was because Bucs backup quarterbacks were getting all the snaps, or if the defense is rounding into form.
July 29th, 2022 at 12:20 pm
I think I speak for a lot of fans when I ask, “Were there any botched snaps from center to QB?”
July 29th, 2022 at 12:22 pm
Does it have to be one or the other? Can’t it be a little bit of all of that? From what’s been reported thes past few days, sounds like both sides of the ball are getting the best of one another on a play to play basis.
July 29th, 2022 at 12:22 pm
O snap (literally), I guess I need to wait until practice notes come out.
July 29th, 2022 at 12:24 pm
Joe recalls one. It was a low snap and the ball hit the turf likely as much on Griffin as it was the snap.
July 29th, 2022 at 12:25 pm
If Ryan Jensen stays out for awhile, it might not be good.
All of our weapons will be useless, unless we can protect Brady.
July 29th, 2022 at 12:25 pm
Thanks, Joe.
July 29th, 2022 at 12:26 pm
Mixed blessing. Though we’d all love an interception, tipped balls are a good thing. When a defensive player gets his hands on a ball it can lead to a tip. Tipped balls are a blessing for defenses, because more likely than not a DB will be in closer (and facing the tipped ball) than a WR to that tipped pass.
July 29th, 2022 at 12:58 pm
Translation:
Our back up quarterbacks are good and terrible
Honestly , let trask handle 2 quarters or more each preseason game
And No ryan griffin on the field. He should be stoked he gets paid to do nothing
Nice guy just not so nice football talent
July 29th, 2022 at 1:06 pm
The Pats had a pro bowl vet QB who went down to injury some 20 years ago. A 6th round back up came in, and the rest is history. Wonder if Brady has told that story to Hainsey? Joe didn’t notice Hainsey, and Brady off to the side working on center QB exchanges? Sounds like we might be worrying more about losing Jensen than Brady is. I get it, it’s a big loss. It’s a loss licht has prepared for drafting Hainsey last year. Bucs haven’t been shy about putting young linemen into the fire. Smith, Marpet, Cappa, Wirfs, all came in, and played right away. Looks like Hainsey might be that next young guy to do the same.
July 29th, 2022 at 1:22 pm
I would give credit to the defense no matter who is throwing the ball.
You can already tell in 3 days Ryan and Dean are balling.
Can’t wait to see Winfield, Edwards and Ryan together on the field.
If we don’t create more turnovers this year, I’ll eat Crow, but this is the best the Bucs have been on the back end in 20 years.
I fully believe points against us goes down this year too.
Points for probably goes up too and coming off of a 13 win season, I’ll take that combo, even if our schedule is harder.
I remember Arians saying if we can solve the QB problem we will be HARD to beat, and that should be the mentality every week.
July 29th, 2022 at 1:24 pm
????
Is TB working with Jane Fonda?
Say it ain’t so Joe
There will be a long line of folks like me lining up to lay a turd on her tombstone
and moon her hearse with saggy old man balls on the way to the cemetery
July 29th, 2022 at 1:31 pm
Good for the kids to get some snaps. We learn by doing. Really no other way around it. You can be sure Brady was having his daily affirmation with Alex somewhere. You’re good enough Tom, you’re smart enough Tom, and gosh darn it, people like you.
July 29th, 2022 at 1:50 pm
This particular Joe likes to take subtle shots on Brady. You think Brady is working on a movie during the season? That’s absolutely disrespectful. You referred to him as a workaholic. You don’t think he could be at home watching film? You know, The man who would rather watch 20 hours a film a week than spend time with his kids? He had over 700 pass attempts last year, by far the most in the NFL, and he’s gonna be expected to carry that same workload this year. Giving him some vet days are prudent. And you have no idea when Brady has been working with Hainsey. Brady used to work with Hainsey on the sidelines during preseason games. Finally, Brady is absolutely maniacal and detailed about what he expects from his center going as so far to dumping baby powder and a towel down the pants of his centers. There are countless articles on the internet about his demanding expectations from his center.
Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean something isn’t happening. We had no idea until Lenny told us that during the off-season Brady demanded he show up to work with him early in the morning. We also had no idea that during minicamp when Jensen was able to field a punt that allowed the team to leave practice early Brady also demanded Lenny and Mike continue to work. So, yes, I’m sure Brady is more concerned with hanging with three old ladies than participating in anything football related.
July 29th, 2022 at 1:52 pm
He’s producing the movie. You think he’s at home today pounding Bromosas and watching soap operas? Promise you Brady is involved in one of his many other business interests today to some degree.
July 29th, 2022 at 2:04 pm
@GOB. Thank you. Brady has the man travel with him on his vacations to work on his body. Alex never leaves his side. As a Michigan alum, who’s studied Brady his entire career, including watching every snap he’s ever taken as a Patriot. I know you’re a NE fan and I am not, so that was painful to watch. It’s like some people have no clue about the unhealthy obsession Brady has with football. He’s an addict who’s been enabled by his family. So when I read people questioning his commitment it makes me laugh. To even think Brady isn’t doing anything football related when he’s not at practice is asinine. I’ll never forget that scene in his doc Tom vs Time where he was sitting at his desk watching film like a mad person. He looked liked some gambling addict who’s been at the slot machine for three nights straight.
Brady has been working on more projects during the off-season, but when the season starts, he still has that “Patriot Way” mentality. I don’t think he pushed BA, but Brady is exhausting and likes to be coached very hard, and maybe he felt BA was on the page. I think he likes BA, but they have some philosophical differences.
July 29th, 2022 at 3:28 pm
Yes I was not pleased about Brady not getting right to work with Hainsey. Hopefully they will be doing a lot of after hours things throughout camp and PS.
July 29th, 2022 at 3:31 pm
Trask. ROTFLMAO.
July 29th, 2022 at 3:55 pm
@Joe How can you speak with so much certainty about what he’s doing on his off day?! You have an issue with Brady. You’ve been condensing on this blog and your podcast. Next media access with Brady you should ask Brady what he does on his vet days off instead of making assumptions. You’ve already made up your mind that he’s doing something “business related.” Please tell me what the other vets were doing on their day off? Surely you can tell us with certainty.
July 29th, 2022 at 4:00 pm
Even JPP could catch better with no fingers than some of these guys .
Hey Todd – there are ways to help guys on defense improve their pass catching. See if you can guess what they are.
July 29th, 2022 at 5:33 pm
You want a HUGEEE contract or be considered being an elite db? CATCH THE DAMN BALL!
July 29th, 2022 at 5:42 pm
My understanding is that Tom B was at practice today, but did not participate on the field. He was watching and talking but he was THERE. I must also say that, being one, I really don’t like Joe’s slurs and deprecating innuendos about old ladies. Especially ones that have tons of exhibited talent.
July 29th, 2022 at 6:18 pm
Crickett… We know the Joes are handsome 20 something guys, built like Adonis. But they won’t be that way for ever. And when they get as old as me… or as Ira… they will appreciate women of all ages.
July 30th, 2022 at 9:41 am
So Mark you were too generous. Plenty of pot belly sweaty hogs on the field and in the stands. Hanoi Jane (haha) has had a very long and successful career. Still fond of Fonda floating weightless and top less in space in the movie Barbarella. Like her or hate her she has had a long and dam good career. Much better than the pot bellied, chain smoking, beer guzzling, sweaty, tattooed, smelly farting, Trump loving, dim wits that bash female achievers and treat your wives/ girl friends like crap. Raise your hand if you identify with the above! I know from your comments some of you fit this description. For those with limited intelligence this post was meant to be humorous satire. Look that up in your dictionary if you have one. “Wink”,