“Like-Bodied” Study For Joe Tryon-Shoyinka
May 4th, 2022
Effort questioned?
One of Bucco Bruce Arians’ final duties as head coach was filling the outside linebackers coaching gig held by Larry Foote, who is now co-defensive coordinator and inside linebackers coach.
To no one’s surprise, Arians handed the job to an old friend, Bob Sanders. The 68-year-old had stints with the Dolphins, Packers, Bills, Raiders and Cardinals, in addition to many years at the University of Florida.
Now Sanders has the task of turning second-year edge rusher Joe Tryon-Shoyinka into a beastly starter.
Sanders said yesterday that he’s focused on teaching/coaching all his outside linebackers differently, and Tryon-Shoyinka has been given “like-bodied” NFL players to study, including Von Miller and Chandler Jones.
Interestingly, Sanders also said he’s got “mentality-wise guys” for Tryon-Shoyinka to study. “They hunt on every pass rush,” is how Sanders described those role models.
Last season, Joe had documented Tryon-Shoyinka loafing at times. It’s not chronic, and he certainly plays hard overall. But Joe has seen the occasional slip in effort. And it seems the Bucs have seen the same thing.
Sanders wants Tryon-Shoyinka to “have that realization that every call that Todd [Bowles] makes is for him.”
The preaching from Sanders on effort extends to the entire unit, he said, noting they’re working on a mindset “that it’s not over till the whistle blows.”
Joe is not blasting Tryon-Shoyinka here. He had a solid rookie season and never missed a game.
The adjustment after sitting out an entire college season isn’t easy. And if the coaching staff needs to inject more of a dog mentality into him, well, then that’s just how it is.
May 4th, 2022 at 3:28 pm
he needs playing time. another reason not to have an unmotivated jpp taking his snaps.
May 4th, 2022 at 4:03 pm
It’s funny how performance is oftentimes related to the mental aspect of the game, including drive, focus and recognition (assuming you put in the preparations to be in a position to quickly recognize and react).
May 4th, 2022 at 4:28 pm
Sanders clearly sees the headless chicken characteristics JTS demonstrates, and once he’s so far out of position, he gives up in frustration. I’m not sure he’s got the mental command it takes.
May 4th, 2022 at 4:32 pm
I believe JTS will take the coaching to heart (and the rest of his bod). Unlike JD.
May 4th, 2022 at 4:41 pm
I suspect JTS was physically and mentally gassed at the end of the season…
May 4th, 2022 at 4:52 pm
I’m not real worried about Tryon. He had a solid rookie year, all things considered. He’s a good kid with a great skill set. He’s gonna take a big step this year, I have no doubt.
May 4th, 2022 at 5:23 pm
I hope you are right. We need him big time. I would bring back JPP though and rotate them.
May 4th, 2022 at 5:34 pm
JTS is going to be a beast this year!
May 4th, 2022 at 5:50 pm
I’ve always been a fan of aspiring to be the best you can be. If the coaches show JTS some cut-ups of what he could be, then I’m all for it. Provide motivation and say, “Bro you are good, but you could be great.” Love this from the coaches.
May 4th, 2022 at 5:52 pm
My life motto is, “Be better today than you were yesterday.” This certainly applies to annual improvement in the NFL, or really, to anybody in their daily life.
May 4th, 2022 at 6:16 pm
Hope JTS gets coached up. Sadly, I’m certain we’ll see his cieling much sooner that later.
When the Bucs draft and give Logan Hall some snaps at OLB I think change is in the works.
May 4th, 2022 at 6:40 pm
@Robert: JPP was injured the majority of the season, the guy couldn’t move his left arm due to a rotor cuff injury. I’m not sure where you’ve been but when healthy, JPP plays like a man possessed.
May 4th, 2022 at 6:44 pm
Sorry, as much as I love JPP I don’t expect him back unless the “alpha dog” can really swallow a pay cut and a lower number of rotations this year.
I do believe he was truly hurting much of last season. He was used too much last season because the rookie was not ready. Does JPP think he has all of the negative stuff behind him as well? We shall see.
May 4th, 2022 at 7:48 pm
Not sure JTS is physical enough for the position. He gets blocked out of position too easily. He is quick enough but not strong enough against strong blockers.
May 4th, 2022 at 8:00 pm
It is all about “Want To” for Joe, the talent is there. Talent without passion / hunger equals blah results, hit and miss, on and off during the games. Now if a guy is injured that is different.
Talent plus passion/ hunger equals “consistency” and excellence game in and game out, and for a select few it turns into a HOF career.
But Talent without ‘Want To” you will just be spinning your wheels. We will see how bad Joe really wants it. Hopefully the lights go on inside of him. He has the size and speed to be good, but time will tell.
GO BUCS!!!!!!
May 4th, 2022 at 8:40 pm
I think some of his loafs were him catching his breath. Life in the NFL is hard on rookies, even those who played the season before, so he had a right to take a breath or two.
He should be fine this season. That massive coaching staff has to be good for something.
May 4th, 2022 at 8:47 pm
Sanders was a nasty man. Hope it rubs off on his guys.
May 4th, 2022 at 9:12 pm
I agree with JOE a 1000%.
This kid quit on a lot of plays last year.
VERY CONCERING
May 4th, 2022 at 9:21 pm
Great to see so many talented young players on this squad with great coaching at every level. If Trask develops or we sign a solid QB, this team has good seasons wit play off appearances for years to come. Tryon will prove a solid player, flashes great ability multi time last season…
May 4th, 2022 at 9:24 pm
I’ll agree with wild bill. The physicality looks too much for him at times, guess we’ll see
May 4th, 2022 at 9:59 pm
Wild Bill Says:
May 4th, 2022 at 7:48 pm
He was 21 years old last year. At that age, a guy keeps growing and getting stronger. Also, there’s a reason why they have trainers and strength coaches — to maximize their physical ability, and get bigger in many cases. There’s no reason to think that won’t happen with JTS, unless you’re a chronic pessimist.
May 4th, 2022 at 10:34 pm
Noah Spence with a name that Gene Deckerhoff can’t get right.
“Joe Tryon Showinski”
😎
May 4th, 2022 at 11:57 pm
The guy was learning last year. The plays you are referencing (if indeed they’re real. No specific plays were addressed) could have been mental overload or just bad coaching (ie trying to put a square peg in a round hole) when JPP started to complain about his shoulder in public it was a cry for help that the coaching staff missed. That was early in the season and all they did was adjust his practice schedule. That was the time for the coaches to increase JTS’s reps and playing time and JPP should of got the shoulder fixed so he’d be ready for this year with the added bonus of JTS being better prepared for this year. I guess you have to decide how you view players mental “commitment.” If you’re badly injured and coach asks “how do you feel. Can you go” Is your answer “always coach. Don’t worry about me” or is it “I don’t know coach I’m feeling pretty cooked “ who’s wrong?
May 5th, 2022 at 7:59 am
B U S T
May 5th, 2022 at 8:08 am
I apologize if I’m wrong but didn’t Bob Sanders play safety? Why is he coaching pass rushing linebackers? I could understand if they wanted JTS to cover more but why wouldn’t they try and get a coach that has been in those situations? I’m sure he’s a good dude and was a great player but he’s never dealt with OL every play.
May 5th, 2022 at 8:21 am
Haha Bucboy. That was too harsh if you were referencing JTS. He is very young and has good athletic ability. But he certainly is a development project. Great speed but not up to the task yet. Still a raw talent but not even close to being a dominate player. I will use the analogy of a thoroughbred who looks like a contender but never wins the big race. He is blocked out of place too easily. Not tough enough to bull rush inside and too easily blocked and pushed wide out of the play. If he can bulk up without loosing speed he could still be an impact player. Seems like a project player rather than an impact player to me. But given his youth still could develop into an impact player.
May 5th, 2022 at 5:04 pm
That isn’t the Bob Sanders who played for the Colts at safety