“Lazy Comparison,” Scary Comparison
May 8th, 2022
Bucs rookie Logan Hall
Many are excited about the versatility possessed by the first toy Tampa Bay selected in the 2022 NFL Draft, defensive tackle Logan Hall.
But a recent comparison of Hall was a cold slap of reality to Joe’s face.
Charles Davis, game analyst and draft guru for NFL Network and CBS, took to the airwaves last week to share what he called a seemingly “lazy comparison” for Hall, one he also believes is accurate. That’s defensive tackle Payton Turner.
Joe knows a lot of Bucs fans are saying, “Who is Payton Turner?”
Turner was the No. 28 overall pick in the draft last season selected by the Slimy Saints. He played alongside Hall at the University of Houston. A lot of Saints fans moan about how New Orleans reached for that pick.
Hall is 6-6, 283 pounds. Turner entered the NFL at 6-6, 270 pounds and played in just five games last season. He missed half the preseason and opening day with a calf injury before a shoulder issue knocked him out for the year in October.
So the Saints basically got nothing from their top pick last season. And that potential reality for the Bucs is one Joe ignores this time of year. It’s unsettling to think of that scenario. But there are no guarantees when it comes to injuries and rookies.
On the upside, Turner contributed when he was active last season and Davis thinks Hall is more versatile.
If Hall can grind through his entire rookie season healthy and make splash plays like Joe Tryon — but with more late-season improvement than Tryon — then Joe will be very satisfied.
May 8th, 2022 at 1:43 pm
Nothing to see here.
May 8th, 2022 at 1:43 pm
Did either Turner or Hall have injury issues in college?
May 8th, 2022 at 1:45 pm
It doesn’t sound like either one of them is actually lazy.
May 8th, 2022 at 1:50 pm
I didn’t watch Houston at all this season. With new NFL players, only time will tell. Hope he develops fast and contributes sooner than later.
May 8th, 2022 at 1:53 pm
All I gather from this is lazy writing. Lazy comparison was never explained. Smh
May 8th, 2022 at 1:57 pm
So, because one person had injuries this past year, an entirely different person will have injuries because they played at the same school??? I don’t even know what to say about that haha
May 8th, 2022 at 2:02 pm
Injuries happen. Many NFL careers are derailed by injury and bad luck…
Let’s hope Hall can avoid the injury bug.
May 8th, 2022 at 2:03 pm
.5 intern wrote this article. Lol
May 8th, 2022 at 2:08 pm
^^^😂^^^
May 8th, 2022 at 2:11 pm
I’m sorry but none of this draft screamed ALL IN for us. Seems like we drafted a bunch of part time players and depth pieces. Trading back saved us money so it seemed to me we were trying to ge the best bang for our BUC lol *get it*…anyways if anyone can get this team to the superbowl it’s Tom Brady and that’s the only hope i have this year. Because i don’t see a different team from last year, as a matter of fact i feel like last year roster is better tha this year. Say what you want about crazy AB but that guy was a difference maker
May 8th, 2022 at 2:14 pm
I’m not sure how Peyton Turner getting injured last year has anything to do with Hall. Are you saying because they play at Houston they are going to get injured? It really doesn’t make sense. Because they are tall they are going to get injured? Or maybe they caught the injury virus by playing too close to each other? Honestly it’s a reach.
May 8th, 2022 at 2:16 pm
With the 27th pick in a draft that featured maybe 20 players with first round grades, what would you suggest they should have done differently?
May 8th, 2022 at 2:17 pm
I’ve got a draft guide that lists Hall as it’s second best defensive tackle behind Jordan Davis and compares him to a more polished Margus Hunt. Hardly a ringing endorsement and I disliked the pick, but he could also be the next Bruce Smith. Time will tell and I’ll support him unless he proves that he can’t play.
May 8th, 2022 at 2:26 pm
For some reason I tend to trust in Licht’s judgement just a little bit more than the fanboys on these here pages. Just sayin’
May 8th, 2022 at 2:30 pm
Come on, training camp!
May 8th, 2022 at 2:35 pm
Rookie injuries are treated differently in the NFL. If you want to make a roster, or even a practice squad, you must show immediately. If you’re injured, it’s nearly impossible to do so. The worst thing in the world for a rookie, is a camp injury. Players are often not ready for the jump in speed, power, and agility.
May 8th, 2022 at 2:35 pm
Yawn
May 8th, 2022 at 2:36 pm
So an injured player didn’t produce. Earth shattering.
May 8th, 2022 at 2:39 pm
Huh?
May 8th, 2022 at 3:15 pm
Bring back Suh if you don’t want the team to suck this year
May 8th, 2022 at 3:52 pm
Now we’re at the point where we’re predicting season ending injuries before we even get to summer?
May 8th, 2022 at 4:02 pm
I want Suh and JPP back.
May 8th, 2022 at 4:28 pm
Other commentators have compared him to DeForest Buckner. No complaints with that.
Others have said they see guaranteed Pro Bowler.
So, bottom line is commentators be commentating. And you can’t account for injuries. Odds are, one of the draft picks will spend most of the season on IR… It always happens.
And, I have faith in our front office on these draft picks. I don’t think there’s a Jaelen Darden in this bunch.
May 8th, 2022 at 4:28 pm
I hope like crazy i am wrong but i think Hall will be a bust.
May 8th, 2022 at 5:03 pm
Franchise76, it’s more likely than not.
May 8th, 2022 at 5:46 pm
Tea leaves, crystal balls, tarot cards, feelings…
A lot different than the prep of Licht, scouts, coaches..
May 8th, 2022 at 5:57 pm
go back and watch all his tape, you can get UH games on internet.
he played half defensive snaps at best and was not overly impressive.
was not even in the game on much of the third and long situations
had to watch like 10 games between the 20 and 21 seasons to find just a few splash plays. he does fairly decent against the run and has just a few sacks.
i just am not seeing it. again lets hope he is into it and gets coached up.
May 8th, 2022 at 6:36 pm
Not expecting much from Hall in his rookie season. Usually takes a few seasons for guys to have a real impact. Tryon should have a solid season in year 2.
May 8th, 2022 at 7:03 pm
But is he Deforrest Buckner? If he is then we’re all going to be glad the Bucs took him.
May 8th, 2022 at 7:11 pm
I am just here to see who Joe responds to 🍿
May 8th, 2022 at 7:25 pm
These player comparisons become a bit absurd at times…..
May 8th, 2022 at 8:37 pm
Bucs fans think Hall is a reach. No way this guy replaces Suh. Big mistake if Jason doesn’t re-sign Suh. Hall will get his Azz kicked in the NFL.
May 8th, 2022 at 9:07 pm
@Drebucsfan. You’re absolutely correct. Nothing about the draft, and nothing about the whole offseason, screamed ALL IN. We just replaced some players who left in the off-season. There was no splash signing. We picked up some spare parts in the secondary. We needed to make a splash defensive signing, and we failed miserably. There was no splash FA signing on offense. Gage is good, but he isn’t even in the stratosphere of Antonio Brown. Meanwhile, the Rams and Saints improved this offseason. Even though the Packers lost Adams, they fortified their D. Rodgers doesn’t have to win games all the time. And don’t get my started on the AFC. If we are so lucky to make it to the SB, we are not better than the top AFC teams.
None of the draft picks seem like day one starters. It’s funny that some people think Brady is some shadow GM, and he’s clearly not. On his last podcast, he lamented on how it was great that the Rams went all out because the windows to win are small and they shut very close. He specifically mentioned the signing of OBJ and Von Miller. And more recently, Clyde Christensen said Brady called him 12 hours after he had unretired and said Brady had a list of things that he and the team could do to get improve. He also mentioned that the team needed to “empty out the chamber.” In 2020, we signed three impact players in Fournette, Gronk, and AB. All three contributed to the SB win. It seems like we still have quite a few bullets in our gun. In no way is this team better than it was last year. We’re gonna deeply regret not improving our defense and not improving the WR depth. The two things that came back to haunt us.
May 8th, 2022 at 9:07 pm
IDK. He looks like a late third rounder to me. AAC lineman are seldom starting quality players. I honestly hope he breaks the mold
May 8th, 2022 at 9:09 pm
Oh and Bruce comparisons, You’re kidding I assume?!
May 8th, 2022 at 10:21 pm
@Anonymous, you’re not wrong. Personally I don’t think Brady has enough weapons. The bucs are counting on Gronk to return to Superbowl 49 form, and a reciever who tore his Achilles last November.
May 8th, 2022 at 10:24 pm
The “anonymous” post above is one of the best posts I’ve read on here in a long, long time. Several excellent points…including the offseason and draft. It’s not negative…just honest. Very well done…
May 8th, 2022 at 10:24 pm
Should have taken Davante Wyatt when we had the chance! Better hope Suh comes back because there is no way Logan Hall is ready for a full time job in the NFL. Rotational guy on passing downs may be all we get. Does it show that I didn’t like the pick?
May 9th, 2022 at 7:18 am
Finally seems that folks are catching on that Hall was major reach and Goedeke was projected at 3rd or 4th round and we took another FREAKING KICKER with a high pick. C- grade at best , too many reaches when you had the best LB in the draft right there at 27 , Devin Lloyd tape screams impact player and starter on Day 1 , LVD is not getting younger. All SEC left guard Ed Ingram was available at Goedekes pick and Goedeke was projected as 3rd or 4th round by everybody , so another huge reach. Special teams coach said it was the intangibles that made Camarda so attractive?? You walk on the field and punt and then you walk off the field , so if you can run fast and play baseball does not enamor me with a punter. Oh yeah , the Ray Guy award winner Matt Araiza was available , so another huge reach. Way too many question marks in this draft and not enough exclamation points.
May 9th, 2022 at 8:58 am
He is a second-round pick he doesn’t need to start. We just need him to hold his own and be a quality starter. Not every pick is going to be an absolute star.