Bucs Draft A Guy From Georgia — A Punter

April 30th, 2022

Bucs P Jake Camarda.

Joe knows there is all sorts of howling from Bucs fans who are angry with Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht for not drafting (insert a name) from Georgia. Well, he corrected that today.

The Bucs drafted Jake Camarda with their second pick in the fourth round. A punter.

Joe is not going to write much about a punter because punters are a sign of failure. Nothing against a guy punting. But when you punt, it means the offense has failed. That’s all there is to it.

But here something wild. Camarda is the second punter drafted. An undrafted guys the Punter King, Matt Araiza of San Diego State, who every half-arsed football analyst from Hawaii to UConn claims is the greatest punter alive and the next Ray Guy.

So this is hilarious to Joe that a guy who has been pimped as this punting deity since the beginning of last year has had (at least) two guys drafted ahead of him.

Joe has now reached his calendar-year limit for words typed on punting.

140 Responses to “Bucs Draft A Guy From Georgia — A Punter”

  1. SteveK Says:


    Good points. Saw another post where a commenter mentioned bc the punter god is also a kicker, and therefore is a concern as a holder.

  2. Alexandre Nascimento Says:

    Nice to see you are well!

  3. SKBucsFan Says:

    All of them could have been drafted ahead of our punter. They are Free Agent guys. Period!
    If this was just to save $2 million then it just exposes how bad Licht is.

  4. SlyPirate Says:

    I get it but Woolen and McCullum were available.

  5. Cho Says:

    Damn. I trust Licht but this one hurts. Still like 10 good guys available and we picked one outside the top 300. This has been an A+ draft… except for two F picks. But time will tell, and Licht knows more than me. I’ll still be angry every Sunday watching our corners get burned every single time by Jacoby Brissett types tho.

  6. Thammaraht Says:


  7. PassingThru Says:

    The knock on Araiza is a concerning lack of accuracy. Too many touchbacks, and an ongoing challenge to hit coffin corners.

  8. Beeej Says:

    Araiza was their PK last 3 years also, would have been a nice bit of depth

  9. lambchop Says:

    This is a bad pick. Not gonna lie. But, at least there’s the Patriots draft picks to fall back on. I think Belicheat just rolls dice or plays bingo to decided his selections.

  10. Pickgrin Says:

    Cue the “What??!! Licht over-drafted another kicker” crowd….. LOL

    Anything that improves our underachieving special teams is a good idea to me…

  11. TompaBucs Says:

    I’m sorry I know it’s early but from the outside looking in, THIS DRAFT SUCKS.

  12. Jaymiss Pick6 Again Says:

    Instead of a Corner of Saftey…..oh crap.

  13. Im not tired anymore we Super Bowl Champs!! Says:

    WTF was that? I don’t get it.

  14. firethecannons Says:

    hard to believe that after last year, Licht did not stock up on corners–thought he would get 2 in the mid rounds–none! hope we can get a few on waiver wires or udfa wish we had more picks anyway–this punter sonds good

  15. yucboy Says:

    Punter is a starting position and they got a starter who played in big games, nothing wrong with that. Will save some salary cap space as well after Pinion is released

  16. FSUBUC Says:

    Wow…that’s all I can say.

  17. PassingThru Says:

    John Madden once wrote something about not wanting a player to function as both PK and P. He believed that physiologically the two duties were incompatible on your leg muscles, in that one tends to tighten them over time (probably punting) while the other relies on fully stretched leg muscles.

  18. Sean Says:

    They have yet to seriously bolster the secondary which was their biggest vulnerability last season. I don’t understand the logic of a lot of this but then again, I’m not getting paid 7 figures to be a GM.

  19. Beeej Says:

    Unless we trade up, that was the last consequential pick we’ll make

  20. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    We just saved $2.9 mil on the cap…..we can buy a vet CB if we need….

    This guy has more hang-time….also does kickoffs…..

    And, don’t be a bit surprised if Borregales is our kicker…..

  21. Buc king Says:

    What about that fast corner

  22. Mike Johnson Says:

    This some Jason Licht BS. He has a fascination with punters and FG kickers.

  23. BUCman Says:

    No words 🤦

  24. Bucamania Says:

    Licht likes to get one of these WTF picks every draft

  25. Curse of Gruden Says:

    What’s next, a water boy at 248.

  26. Ok Says:

    Can someone explain to me why we drafted him in the 4th round! Now we have 3 punters on our roster. 3 punters!!

  27. SB~LV Says:

    Jason rides a 1969 650 cc Triumph, so he has a soft spot for kickers 🙃

  28. Ufcguy32 Says:

    This draft overall is trash. Why can’t Jason pick guys from big time schools and go with what I’d consider safe picks. He got his ass handed to him waiting on Jermaine Johnson, trades back and picks hall. Then picks a guard at least a round early. He left Andrew booth on the board, James Cook, Wyatt etc. This draft doesn’t give us the firepower to beat the rams or saints. Defensively we still suck. No pass rush, betting on jts, no suh. This draft feels like we’d have been better off trading the whole thing at this point

  29. adam from ny Says:

    draft approach: they’re trying to save some cap money

  30. SB~LV Says:

    Channeling Bobby Beathard

  31. Jordan Says:

    Adam, totally agree this is a cap move. We can now cut Pinion and save money for some extra financial padding for a couple more moves.

  32. Bucamania Says:

    Sure didn’t feel like an all-in no risk it no biscuit draft for Brady’s last year.

  33. Marine Buc Says:

    I trust Licht with picking everything except punter…

    So far he has used a 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks on kickers and the kickers he has selected are no longer in Tampa.

    I hope this pick turns out better.

    There were more than a few talented WRs, CBs, LBs, OLBs and Safties still left on the board. So – TBH – I am not thrilled with this pick.

  34. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Any veteran corners out there that would play for peanuts?

  35. Beeej Says:

    Davis–2nd rounder
    SMB–2nd rounder
    Dean–3rd rounder

    Good corners aren’t found on waiver wire or 7th round

  36. THOMAS PFALZ Says:

    Two bad picks. RB & P

  37. James Says:

    Was it just me, or was it obvious that our former punter kicked himself out of a job? Why not get one of the better ones in the draft this year. These 3 top punters won’t make it to round 7 despite what some of you guys think. This is a need pick and he will be a good one.

  38. Marine Buc Says:

    * I trust Licht with picking everything except kickers…

    Meant to change that before I sent it…

  39. adam from ny Says:

    pinnion is now pacing around in front of one buc in underwear, slippers and a hacksaw jim duggan 2 by 4

  40. Buczilla Says:

    Lol, just when I thought it couldn’t possibly get worse…Please, please, please, have a plan to beg, borrow, or steal a starting corner Mr. Licht.

  41. Beeej Says:

    In fairness to Pinion, I’m thinking he had a hip injury?

  42. OBVIOUS Says:


  43. Rod Munch Says:

    I talked myself into liking this pick.

    He’s a kickoff specialist. I heard someone say just 15% of his kickoffs were returned (however I saw a higher number at least for last year, so not sure that 15% number is correct). In any case, the Bucs kickoff return coverage stinks, so its best to never have them return kicks. This was the only thing Pinion was good at, and this kids doesn’t seem like he’d be any worse.

    He averaged nearly 47 yards per punt last year, if that translates to the NFL, he’s the best punter in the history of the Bucs.

    He’s got 4.5 speed in the 40, meaning we can do fake punts. Teams will have to guard against him running on 4th downs, should make their return blocking not as effective. Bucs have to actually have the balls to run a few fakes early in the year for that to work, but if they do so, that could be huge.

    If his college performance translates to the NFL, he’s going to be a HUGE upgrade over Pinion. Plus saving $2m, if that money is spent on resigning Suh, then he just earned his 4th round selection. Plus the Bucs got a cheap punter wrapped up for the next 4-seasons.

  44. Bucsfan4ever Says:

    A punter?????
    You could a got a punter in the seventh, you fffffffffffffff##!!

  45. Colonel Angus Says:

    Punting is part of the game. Everybody punts. A good punter is the Defenses best friend.

  46. Beeej Says:

    Tom Brady don’t need no punter!

  47. Andrew Buc Fan Says:

    This pick improved our team, now and in the future. Pinion sucked last year. He gets paid like a top Kicker but he sucked. He was terrible in that last Rams game.

    We’re a Super Bowl roster in win now mode. We just got a starter that will help our team. And we freed up $2.9M to sign players that will contribute.

  48. yucboy Says:

    There are a lot of good free agents still left waiting to be signed and probably wanting to play with Tom Brady. This team will be better before the start of the season

  49. SOEbuc Says:

    Drafted 1 player on defense??? Wtf???

  50. Bird Says:

    I am fine with licht. He has brought in some good guys

    With that said. This draft has been hot garbage. Again , i get liking a guy or loving a player. But taking a round early is not smart. Or jumping up when said player would have been available at pick.

    This punter would have likely gone undrafted
    Heck san diego state guy was there
    The punter for colorado state had hang time over 5 seconds
    And we take a guy that again would have likely gone undrafted

    When mcollum and woolen were available? Huge head scratcher
    Him and arians boozing today.

  51. Cchead Says:

    Wtf is going on. I could throw a dart at best remaing players and do better

  52. RPK Says:

    Pinion sucks and so does this pick.

    At least it’s not a second rounder this time.

  53. SB~LV Says:

    We have a boomer in waiting for field goals too , the kid from Miami will win the job this year. The kicking game should be in good shape for years now.

  54. Rod Munch Says:

    This kids 4.5 speed could be a huge thing if the Bucs have the balls to use it.

    Just run a few fakes early in the year, then, all season, teams are going to be looking for the run and it will affect their returns. But they have to actually do it, not just talk about it.

  55. Rod Munch Says:

    SB~LV Says:
    April 30th, 2022 at 2:02 pm
    We have a boomer in waiting for field goals too , the kid from Miami will win the job this year.


    Yep, agreed, and that saves another $2m.

  56. BEARxSHARK Says:

    I get drafting a punter when Pinion has gone downhill, but a 4th round pick when you won’t pick again until late in the 6th round? This is definitely a headscratcher, especially considering that J Dean is a free agent next year. We could’ve used depth at CB. Come on, Licht

  57. Bojim Says:

    A punter in the 4th? Argh…

  58. Ufcguy32 Says:

    Lol he better be on the phone with gronk, suh today begging them to come back bc of now we got some big questions still.
    If gronks not back, who’s Brady go to. If Godwin is hurt who’s our third receiver, and who’s the captain and energy on the dline. Vita and his fat ass plays 40 % of the snaps. We’re in trouble

  59. Rod Munch Says:

    SOEbuc Says:
    April 30th, 2022 at 2:00 pm
    Drafted 1 player on defense??? Wtf???


    A good punter, and kickoff specialist, is one of the best, and cheapest upgrades for a defense that you can have.

    Also the team lives and dies on what Tom Brady does, not what the defense does. If Gabbert or Trask is playing, this team wins 3 games.

  60. Allbuccedup Says:

    Licht and his kickers and punters totally ridiculous!

  61. Pewter Power Says:

    Technically pinion is to blame for sucking last year especially in the playoffs. Apparently Bucs were more upset about those kick offs going out of bounds than that last play of the season

  62. Scott Says:

    licht sucks

  63. Allbuccedup Says:

    Draft grade just dropped to D+.

  64. BucsFan81 Says:

    But can he play CB?

  65. Scott Says:

    the only reason he still has job tom brady and gronk

  66. Frankdatank87 Says:

    At least it wasn’t in the 2nd round i guess. Big tall corners on the board too, oh well.

  67. Anonymous Says:

    Just not sold or pleased. Another reach when BETTER PLAYERS AVAILABLE! Not a chance that I EVER believe them again concerning lies about taking the BPA’s!
    Why should we worry about off field concerns when talking about kicking a door when they are All confessed liers? Watt seemed incert and play and Hall seems he’ll need a year or two.

    BPA? What a joke……

  68. Bruce Blahak Says:

    CB? Wuz kyle fuller doin?

  69. SKBucsFan Says:

    Didn’t Licht draft a kicker too early that was All-World Can’t Miss Prospect I believe it was in Round 2 and the guy turned out to be a failure. Yet the Glazers rewarded him with a contract extension.
    I will state the obvious, when TB12 officially retires and leaves this team we will be fighting the Lions for futility. At least the Lions fire their GM every few years.

  70. Rod Munch Says:

    BucsFan81 Says:
    April 30th, 2022 at 2:10 pm
    But can he play CB?


    Better than Ryan Smith, for certain.

  71. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    For all those lamenting the punter…..look at it for the long run….after Brady is gone…..and Trask takes over…..(you’ve already called him a bust)….then at least we will have a good, cheap punter for 3 additional years.

  72. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Maybe someone will take peanuts to come play here. There’s some decent veteran corners out there.

  73. Rod Munch Says:

    Why do people think you’re getting a starting corner at the back of the 4th round? Once you get past the 3rd round, the likelihood of getting a quality corner is very low. Instead of getting a corner who might have a 12% chance of success, Licht took a punter who will 100% get the job, and will save you $2m, which can be used to help get a Suh deal done.

    It’s a win-win.

    Cheer up morons, try expanding your tiny brains and thinking about the big picture.

  74. AlabamaBucsFan Says:

    Jim Nagy had this to say about the 2022 NFL Draft prospect: “Had calls with some of [the] top kicking gurus and overwhelming opinion is Georgia’s Jake Camarda is among best punting prospects to come out in past 5-10 years. Safely draftable and carrying middle-round grades in the league.”

  75. Posey99 Says:

    We got a starter that will make the roster and save on cap space

  76. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Rod Munch still quality corners out there. Corner was a strength of this draft class. Jalyn davis was out there. Ravens got a steal. He was looked as a 3rd rounder.

  77. PassingThru Says:

    Yep, Nagy is the Senior Bowl Director, and Camarda had a very strong Senior Bowl.

  78. catcard202 Says:

    I’m blown away that it wasn’t Araiza.

  79. Perimeter Blocker Says:

    Really would like a punt returner…

  80. SKBucsFan Says:

    We don’t need a starting corner. We need depth. Guys that can play when called upon. It takes a couple of years to develop into a starting corner this late in the draft. The problem is that when your GM drafts the same position all in one year they all develop and become free agents at the same time. When you are in a salary cap nightmare it’s hard to keep them. So you start over, instead of planning for the future.

  81. 1sparkybuc Says:

    Licht is brilliant.

  82. PassingThru Says:

    I was far more upset at last year’s draft. Taking Kyle Trask was a colossal blunder, a waste of a second round pick. I wanted a CB or a developmental OT, both of which were sorely needed last season, and both of which would have been useful heading into this season.

    This year’s yield is just a reflection of what was available in the draft. I’m willing to bet if you go to various fan boards, you’ll see plenty of fans bemoaning the lack of an impact player. That’s not due to bad GM decisions, it’s due to the talent in the draft pool.

  83. Rod Munch Says:

    Francisco Guzman – History says there are not quality corners out there. Obviously someone might, or will, end up being good, but the odds are not in your favor, and I bet the hit rate on 4th and 5th rounders is probably about the same as UDFA.

    This secondary, minus Whitehead, is the same one that won a SB. People are acting like everyone wasn’t beat up to hell and injured all last year. With bringing in the new veteran safeties, hopefully there won’t be a big drop-off, and if the corners can just stay healthy, they should be a lot better. I mean we lose SMB in the 2nd quarter of the 1st game of the year, starting a domino effect that includes signing Sherman a few days before a game and having him start and play the entire game. That’s how bad things were.

    If all the injuries happen again, a late 4th round corner isn’t going to save the day.

    Also a lot of the issues with the secondary was that the team was NOT getting pressure on QBs without blitzing. Hopefully with Trayon in his second year, maybe with Hall getting some naps as well, and Suh back, I hope – maybe they get more pressure. Maybe Todd realizes that White should be blitzing on every single play and never be in coverage. There’s a lot of things the Bucs can do if they’re not trying to sign guys off the street to play defensive back.

  84. Steven007 Says:

    Rod, I don’t disagree with you. Good job using logic instead of emotion. This saves us money and he almost certainly won’t be worse than our current guy. As for the fake punts, I would like to think they would experiment with that during the preseason which will put that film out so that we don’t start using it in the regular season without having used it in true game conditions. But I agree, that could be something of value.

  85. Mike Johnson Says:

    ome on Bucs..You mean to tell me you could not find a decent Corner with this pick? Man, what they smokin this Saturday?

  86. Pewter Power Says:

    @Perimeter blocker

    A punt/kick returner would sure be nice

  87. Rod Munch Says:

    PassingThru Says:
    April 30th, 2022 at 2:27 pm
    I was far more upset at last year’s draft. Taking Kyle Trask was a colossal blunder, a waste of a second round pick.


    I’ll completely agree with that. If you wanted a corner, end of the 2nd round is a great place to take one, instead we got a QB that throws rainbow passes and has to relearn how to throw the ball. Trask might end up being OK, but the Bucs are in win-now mode and that was a huge waste of a top pick.

    Of course even if you picked someone, it might not be the right guy, so the chance to bust is always there, but if you choose a 4th string QB, you’re not giving yourself much of a chance.

    Also if Trask was so highly regarded, they should have flipped him this offseason and got something for him.

    I know it sounds like I’m ripping Trask, I’m really not, I just didn’t like that pick, still hate it — not Trask the player, just the fact they took him over getting something else we could have used in that Rams game.

  88. In Jason I trust Says:

    Don’t quit your day job cry babies!

  89. Francisco Guzman Says:

    A chance for the bucs once again to draft McCollum .

  90. Lord Corn Says:

    So bad man lol I thought he’d learned by now those 7th rounders would be better off on a P or K

  91. Rod Munch Says:

    Steven007 – In my opinion, you got to actually run those fake punts in real games or people just assume you don’t have the balls to run it, and they won’t defend it. I mean when we’re playing Atlanta or Carolina and we’re up 17-0 in the 2nd, that’s when you do it. I’d say run it two times, in real games, then you’re set for the year. Also, if the fake punts work and the kid looks good, then you got a real weapon you could pull out in case you really need it. A 4.5 punter is something I’ve never heard of, maybe I’m off on that and it’s more common than I think, but that seems like quite the weapon if you got the gumption to use it.

  92. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Yes!!!!!! McCollum!!!!!!!

  93. Francisco Guzman Says:

    One thing i like about McCollum is he’s very fluid with his hips and change of direction.

  94. Bucfan1988 Says:


    6’2 CB W 4.33 Speed!!
    Nice move!!

    What did they give up to get back up to 5th round??

  95. Rod Munch Says:

    Bucs just picked Zyon McCollum, so there you go, the secondary is SAVED!

    What did the Bucs give up? They got an extra 7th as well.

  96. Rod Munch Says:

    Bucs gave up a 4th next year, got this 5th and a 7th.

    I have no issues with that, shocked they didn’t do more trades with future picks.

  97. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Hope this kid can make the team over guys like delaney and Cockrell.

  98. Dean Giusti Says:

    Salary cap move straight up. We don’t have a pot to piss in. They need to free up some mulah to sign some quality free agents.

  99. Rod Munch Says:

    Interesting, it was another trade with Jacksonville. Surprised they were able to get this 5th and a 7th, for what will be a high-4th next season.

    So three 7th rounders fellas, lots of lotto tickets!

    Need to try to find a true dedicated retuner with on of those 7ths, but you figure all three are likely special teams guys.

  100. Rod Munch Says:

    Francisco Guzman – If he can’t beat out COCKwell, then he doesn’t deserve to be in the NFL.

    But he’s a 5th rounder, the hit rate is very low, but he has good size and speed, and COCKwell is slow as dirt, so he should be able to make the team unless he just runs around lost like Ryan Smith did for 5 years.

  101. Lord Corn Says:

    At least a K and P were drafted before we did this so we weren’t the first team to chase special teams.

    It’s been a weakness . Hopefully he’s the greatest P of all time lol

  102. Beeej Says:

    When did we get that 5th round pick? (Not that I’m complaining)

  103. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Rod Munch what i like about McCollum is his change of direction on his hips. He’s not stiff at all. He posted some ridiculous combine numbers.

  104. Destinjohnny Says:

    Awful draft

  105. SKBucsFan Says:

    Not saved by any means. But at least it’s some depth.
    Licht gives up picks to get to the same place year after year. Other GMs must like taking advantage of him. “Ya sure, I’ll trade you. Your last pick would have been available in Round 7, but sure I’ll take your 4th next year”

  106. HC Grover Says:

    Out with Cockrell in with McCollum. Not bad.

  107. Francisco Guzman Says:

    McCollum is listed as a top 100 talent on some boards. Hope he can beat out delaney or cockrell.

  108. Marine Buc Says:

    Cool. We got Z. McCollum – CB in the 5th… I feel better about the last pick now.

    I would have been happy with McCollum in the 4th.

  109. SB Says:

    Scott Says:
    April 30th, 2022 at 2:11 pm
    the only reason he still has job tom brady and gronk


    The only reason Brady and Gronk are here is because of the team he put together you moron.

  110. Marine Buc Says:

    @ Beej

    We trade next yrs 4th for this 5th round pick plus pick #235…

  111. Adrnagy Says:

    We all playing GM ?

  112. HC Grover Says:

    Replacements for Marpet, Howard, ROJO, Cockrell,and Pinions so far. Not bad. Next a replacement for Gabbert?

  113. Cobraboy Says:

    The knock on the “Punter God” from SDS is he often outkicks his coverage.

    At least there will be a serious kicker/punter competition this pre-season.

  114. Rod Munch Says:

    Adrnagy Says:
    April 30th, 2022 at 2:52 pm
    We all playing GM ?


    It’s a fan message board, it’s what we do, kiddo.

  115. Beeej Says:

    thanks Marine, just saw that

    “The 6-2, 199-pound corner started all 12 games in 2021, posting 50 tackles, two for loss, three interceptions, five pass breakups and a blocked kick.” Runs a 4.3 40 as well. We could do worse

  116. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    Free agent my arse! You grab a guy when and where he is availble be it free agency, the draft or “off the street”.

  117. Rod Munch Says:

    Cobraboy – I thought we drafted Punt God as well, but we didn’t, get got another kicker that runs a 4.5 40.

    I had heard that the issue with Punt God is that he kicked FGs as well, so he never has learned to hold on FGs, and that would push down his stock as teams want the punter to hold on FGs. If you don’t do that, teams now need someone else to hold, because it’s very risky to learn that on the fly in the NFL. So that would push him down the board more than people thought. Seems to be true, and is interesting since it’s not something I ever would have thought before hearing the son of a kicker bring it up.

  118. TheBradyBunch Says:

    Rod you are speaking the truth. My 16yo was walking outside and I told him the Bucs just drafted a punter with our fourth. As a big Bucs fan he said “who cares really because whoever they drafted probably wouldn’t do much more than play special teams unless they get cut before the season starts. He’s only 16 and understands. So many lifelong fans act like every single pick is like gold.

  119. Rod Munch Says:

    TheBradyBunch – smart kid, you raised him right!

    If you can get a good punter, on the cheap, to replace an expensive punter who isn’t very good, and that money is used to bring back someone like Suh, then that’s totally worth a 4th.

    Plus we got our 5th round corner, so now all the people demanding we spend a draft pick on a corner, there we go. Although, on the corner, quickly watching his highlights, he does look good, he’s a small school project player, but no way he’s worse than slow ass COCKwell.

  120. Cobraboy Says:

    @Rod: if a guy can take a punt snap and transition to a punt, he can take a FG snap and transition to a FG hold.

    I’ve done both with middlin’ great hands. I never held until I coached ST’s as a grad asst. and held for kickers in practice while a ball boy used a Jugs to snap.

    Usta be a reserve QB or WR was a holder. I guess times change.

    I understand PG’s weakness is hang time. He can boom the s#!t out of the ball, but line drives get returned. Also, his direction is poor. For instance, Ray Guy’s hang time was a phenom…and he still got serious distance.

  121. HC Grover Says:

    Need replacement for Darden.

  122. Jor God tha Binks Says:

    We needed to add speed….we now have a Punter that runs 4.5 😂🤷‍♂️🤯

  123. Alanbucsfan Says:

    Licht drafting kickers/punters is like the guy who keeps getting fake phone #’s at the club…

  124. Power of Pewter Says:

    The Bucs should prob keep Licht away from the sauce on draft day.

  125. JimmyJack Says:

    My favorite pick. The entertainment of reading these meltdowns is the greatest part of the draft.

  126. Power of Pewter Says:

    A punter/kicker available on the draft board is like crack cocaine to Licht…he can’t help himself. It’s an addiction. One day, perhaps 20 years from now, he will draft a kicker that actually pans out and feel totally vindicated.

  127. IE Buc Says:

    Did the Bucs want Stout or Jake? Jake could have been drafted later unless they panicked when Stout was drafted. Then again Jake could have been the plan all along.

  128. Bob in valrico Says:

    If I am not mistaken this kid made a nice tackle in the national championship game. A punter with a with a bit of a football mentality could be a plus. Its just possible that the scouting staff liked some of his intangibles.

  129. D-Rok Says:

    Rod Munch – I tend to agree with your comments. Punting cost us a lot of field position in the Rams playoff game last year. Either Pinion was hurt or he sucks. Enter drafting a punter for competition. A punter with 4.5 speed? Never heard of that. Most punters are slower than Brady, LOL. I know our team has needs/upgrades desired, but a good dual-purpose punter can be a great asset. Like you alluded to, run a few fake punts early in season to make teams respect our authority at the punting position. Not saying I love the pick, but I think this might be a good punter for us. Would you draft a punter who can consistently pin opponents on the 10-yard line?

  130. D-Rok Says:

    Plus, his pic tho. He looks like a safety or light LB. Can he also lay some wood on somebody? LOL

  131. steele Says:

    THIS IS A RIDICULOUS PICK AND A WILD REACH. A punter with a rd 4, when your defense is still on a ventilator.

    Unless they are all-NFL elite difference makers, why the hell do you ever invest anything higher than a rd6 or below for freaking punters and kickers?! You sign these types off the street, in free agency, or with trades off the bottom of rosters.

    This is as bad as a Belichick kind of pick. NE notoriously wasted day 2s and 3s to special teamers, even when glaring needs remained unfixed.

  132. T REX Says:

    Licht is so overrated

    He would have been fired without Brady

  133. Mike Johnson Says:

    A punter? Give me a break Licht. Thats the problem with liking your team. You have to put up with their BS.

  134. Nicholas Carlson Says:

    I love a good punter. And you really notice it when yours is bad

  135. steele Says:

    Licht really wants to get rid of Pinion, fine. “Gee, so let’s see…the top rated punter is….Camarda!”

    But a 4th round pick?! I bet he could have been gotten way lower, or in FA.

    Unless Camarda turns out to be Ray Guy, this was a major reach.

  136. Bob in valrico Says:

    Too many Bucs want to label the kicking picks busts before they even step on the field because of their draft position since Arroyo. As Fans we should support them and hope for their success and have a little patience. Take Matt Gay who
    knocked us out of the playoffs, who made 94% of his field goals and 100 % of
    his XP’s.

  137. Bob in valrico Says:

    ^^^^ regular season

  138. Rod Munch Says:

    D-Rok – yeah, I’ve never heard of a 4.5 speed punter, the Bucs need to use that a few times to really screw with return units. If they have to prepare for possible fakes, it just takes time away from what they normally do, might cause them to be more conservative on setting up returns and they might stay around the LOS instead of going back to block, causing more fair catches.

    It’s really interesting and not something I ever considered before, how a punter might really screw with the other team if they have speed.

    Now I haven’t watched this guy punt, if he’s one of those dopes you punts bare footed, that would be an issue, but assuming he uses cleats, if he’s that quick on gameday, that could really be an interesting wrinkle for a team that never uses trick plays or does anything unconventional.

  139. Rod Munch Says:

    Bob in valrico – Roberto made all his game winning kicks with the Bucs. Gay lost the Bucs two games.

    BUT, I did say at the time, even with as much as I hated Gay in the moment, that the Bucs need to just stick with him, he showed he can mostly make his kicks, and most great kickers don’t have great rookie years. You can’t just throw guys away constantly, which the Bucs do all the time. Rookie kickers are rarely pro-bowlers.

    As for punters, they seem to be less of a headcase than kickers – so even a rookie punter can be really good. No idea if this kid will be good, but obviously the Bucs think he will be, and his college stats are very good.

  140. Ash Says:

    Didn’t like it initially but with time I am liking this pick make since as well rod’s comments really won me over think he is exactly right about it.