Emmanuel Ogbah And The Bucs
February 22nd, 2022
During most offseasons, Joe is found sitting at Hooters or a local Big Storm taproom pounding the bar and yelling “Pass Rush! Pass Rush! Pass Rush!“
Joe sees little reason to end that tradition.
No NFL defense saw more passes than the Bucs did in 2021. That’s a league-wide nod to Tampa Bay’s stout run defense. And nobody blitzes as much as the Bucs do, and that is a slight nod to their issues pressuring quarterbacks with four rushers, in addition to Todd Bowles’ obsession with the blitz.
With Jason Pierre-Paul old and broken down, the Bucs could use a major upgrade off the edge as they figure out whether Joe Tryon-Shoyinka is the real deal.
Joe’s eye is on pending free agent edge rusher Emmanuel Ogbah from the Dolphins. He thrived in their 3-4 defense, which had a lot of similarities to Tampa Bay’s. One of the most bizarre, never-talked-about NFL stats of 2021 was Ogbah recording a dozen passes defensed to complement his nine sacks and stout run defense. That’s more than most NFL cornerbacks!
Ogbah, 28, may not be wanted by the new Dolphins regime and he thrived in the Florida heat, never missing a game since leaving the Browns.
Ogbah (6-4, 275 pounds) might be available for, say, three years, $30 million with $25 million guaranteed. Joe would never bark at investing in the pass rush, especially while getting younger there at the same time. Never.
February 22nd, 2022 at 9:40 am
Joe is really undervaluing what other teams with more cap space will pay free agents.
February 22nd, 2022 at 9:46 am
Could be a good fit….we’re going to have to be able to play some degree of defense regardless of who our QB is.
February 22nd, 2022 at 9:50 am
ABT…anybody but Tryon.
February 22nd, 2022 at 9:52 am
We don’t resign Suh & Gholston or replace them, we won’t have that run defense.
Need to concentrate on CB, RB, WR, Oline, DT before edge….
Also, I think JPP may be back, healthy & cheap.
February 22nd, 2022 at 9:53 am
total rebuild.
save your cash and start stocking up on draft picks.
i
February 22nd, 2022 at 9:54 am
Why the Hate on JT he was a rookie who sat out the year before an he had a Nice rookie season he had a lot of pressures on the QB considering the Playing time he got he could have been closer to 8-10 sacks if he started all year not in a backup role
February 22nd, 2022 at 9:54 am
Love it. Shaq needs help. Let Joe Tryon continue to develop. Bring JPP back for cheap and draft another guy or two. You can never have a deep enough line
February 22nd, 2022 at 9:55 am
pass, Suh and Gholston….and a #1 and/or #2 pick
February 22nd, 2022 at 10:12 am
I think jts has the potential to be a game changer I think you find a true slot corner to upgrade the secondary that isn’t smb so that you don’t have to constantly drop your edges and dt into spot coverage so much wich drove me insane last season and that helps your pass rush.
February 22nd, 2022 at 10:15 am
Agree Joe, pass rush is crucial…..
But there are so many positions we need, and our cap space is far from generous….
I would like to see JPP come back, if healthy, but in case he is, he will not come for cheap……
February 22nd, 2022 at 10:19 am
WE need to do something, because the only way we get pressure is an all out blitz, that leaves our secondary exposed.
February 22nd, 2022 at 10:20 am
At this point in their respective careers, Ogbah, a player I’ve always liked, would be a huge upgrade over JPP. Of course as always it comes down to finances. He won’t come cheap and we don’t have much money. So again it comes down to decisions.
February 22nd, 2022 at 10:24 am
I like Ogbah, but I am not sure we can afford him plus seeing as we have shaq and JTS penciled in as starters and I like the progress I saw from Anthony Nelson last year. I am thinking maybe we go with a cheaper option. Although he is more volatile in terms of you are not sure just what he will produce, I am wondering if Dante Fowler Jr. might be able to find his game again under Todd Bowles’ defense. He may be had for cents on the dollar, but has high enough ceiling if we can unlock it.
February 22nd, 2022 at 10:30 am
JBF … ‘No NFL defense saw more passes than the Bucs did in 2021. That’s a league-wide nod to Tampa Bay’s stout run defense.’
OR … maybe opponents passed against us so much because we’re relatively easy to pass against (21st in the NFL in terms of Passing Yards Allowed). That MIGHT have been because we blitzed our LBs so much (which good QBs can take advantage of) AND our Secondary coverage isn’t exactly the tightest in the world.
However … THE Bucs defense was VERY GOOD in terms of not allowing opponents to score a bunch of points. We ranked 5th in terms of Points Allowed last year (20.8 PPG average). What few seem to ever mention is that Bucs ranked 4th in the NFL in terms of Net Yards Gained per Pass Attempt (NY/A) at 5.6 yds/attempt. IOW, our defense made opponents ‘work for it’. Unfortunately we gave up too many explosive plays, but that’s another story.
February 22nd, 2022 at 10:41 am
I agree with the above comments.
This guy will be way more expensive than $10 million per year.
Bring back JPP on a cheaper (incentive bonus laden) deal and let him rotate with Shaq, JTS and A. Nelson.
February 22nd, 2022 at 10:48 am
With what money?
February 22nd, 2022 at 11:03 am
Bowles would drop him into coverage too much for him to be an effective pass rusher
February 22nd, 2022 at 11:26 am
Already have $$$$$ Barrett and #1 draft pick Tyron why pay 10 mil for a position thats already filled. Just pay a couple of bucks for a backup rusher.
February 22nd, 2022 at 11:29 am
emmanuel obama…bert emmanuel…emmanuel lewis ???
February 22nd, 2022 at 11:52 am
BA likes Ryan Kerrigan. A buck and a quarter vs 10 mil.
February 22nd, 2022 at 1:22 pm
They definitely need another legit pass rusher. I think they missed out on Riddick last season. Could have had him for cheap and he seemed to have the makings of another Shaq Barrett type who just needed an opportunity. I don’t think we can roll the dice and rely on JTS with little depth behind him. The challenge will be to replace the DT FAs while also providing depth on pass rush.
February 22nd, 2022 at 5:23 pm
Hell yes! I’d love to sign this dude and draft a other pass rusher within the first three rounds this year. You can never have enough pass rushers so the more the merrier.
February 22nd, 2022 at 5:50 pm
I’m all for Ogbah. But there are many other edge in free agency, and it’s a better offseason for pass rushers than usual. Chandler Jones, Von, Jerry Hughes, Justin Houston, Melvin Ingram, Dante Fowler, Hassan Reddick. There are also lesser names who are solid rotationals. Good prospects in the draft, too.
February 22nd, 2022 at 7:03 pm
JBF, I like your thinking here. Barrett is a wash without pressure opposite him; I think it is naiive to think JPP will sign a lowball incentive laden contract; and the best way to help a weak secondary is to pressure the qb. Ogbah would be a nice fit in Bowles’ d.
February 22nd, 2022 at 7:09 pm
If he could be had for that price, shake JPP’s hand, thank him for his service, tell him we will see him at his ring of honor induction and politely show him the door.
February 22nd, 2022 at 8:42 pm
Rewatch our last game against the Rams, and you won’t want JPP back for free. Bad shoulder?, No legs either, he can’t run anymore. The dude is shot.