Durable, Inconsistent, X-Factor

January 10th, 2022

Rookie Joe Tryon-Shoyinka

Playoff ecstasy has arrived, and Joe is focused on how it will continue.

Pass rush. Pass rush. Pass rush!

No longer will the Bucs face patsy offensive lines and third-rate quarterbacks. Hitting, sacking and disrupting QBs is a huge part of how you win in the postseason. It’s a fact of NFL life.

The Eagles are up next and they score the 12th most points in the league behind their manly offensive line. Philadelphia is good in the trenches and diverse offensively, and they’ve averaged more than 27 points per game through the second half of this season.

The knee of Bucs sacks king Shaq Barrett may not be right, and Jason Pierre-Paul is severely weakened by a messed up shoulder. Devin White’s blitzing effectiveness has diminished greatly and Ndamukong Suh has been very quiet lately. So it’s a given that the Bucs need their backup edge rushers to step up.

Anthony Nelson is delivering. But rookie Joe Tryon-Shoyinka looks like he’s hit a wall. Despite a ton of playing time in JPP’s absence, Tryon-Shoyinka had just one sack through his final eight games.

The athleticism is there and Tryon-Shoyinka has made his share of plays chasing mobile quarterbacks, a trait that will come in handy against Jaylon Hurts and the Eagles, but the Bucs need a lot more from Tryon.

After 17 games (and props to Tryon for his durability), he’s not really a rookie any longer.

Joe considers Tryon-Shoyinka to be a major X-factor for the playoffs. Why? Because the raw talent is there. Even if Tryon-Shoyinka reverts to a part-time role, which should enhance his explosiveness, the Bucs need him on special teams and as a designated pass rusher.

It may not be unfair to rely on rookies, but the Bucs certainly did that through last year’s playoff run, and Joe has no doubt that another Super Bowl run will require improved production off the edge.

31 Responses to “Durable, Inconsistent, X-Factor”

  1. Thomas Edrington Says:

    Wonder if Joe(s) noticed that former East Carolina standout and Washington State as well, Gardner Minshew, was the Eagles QB this past week?

  2. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    I think we will beat the Eagles and eliminate them, just like we did to them on the last game in Veterans Stadium when Donovan McNabb choked.

  3. Thisisouryear!! Says:

    I think JTS needs a year in the weight room and about 20lbs on him. He doesn’t have the size to play with these offensive tackles. How’d he supposed to bull rush?

  4. Jmarkbuc Says:

    It’s a team game , but seems to me JTS was either chasing downfield when the play should have been made at the LOS, or just standing. Not every play, but a lot.

    I know BA’s style is to let vet players lead things and teach. Maybe JTS just can’t understand a damn word JPP is saying….😂😂

    Don’t come at me… JPP is the cajones of our D, but that creole is THICK.

  5. SB~LV Says:

    He is a rookie! It takes some time to be able to understand what is happening, especially with a couple of mauling offensive linemen in your face.
    Kid has amazing athletic ability

  6. DingleBerry Says:

    Most of you who were big time commenters during/recently after the draft knows that I made a spectacle of myself by expressing my displeasure in the selection of Joe Tryon.

    The guy I wanted instead, Azeez Ojulari, did have a much better season with 8 sacks as a rookie (he did start a few more games than Tryon and probably had more snaps but still) on a crappy Giants team. He was the best edge rusher for them so he was pretty much the only rusher other teams had to game plan against. So putting up 8 sacks is impressive and I feel justified in my evaluation of him and desire to add him to the Bucs.

    However I have to admit, The Joe Tryon I saw on the field for the Bucs this year was a completely different player than the one I saw on his college tape that left me so disappointed. He still has to develop, but his athleticism and explosiveness jump off the screen, and he has a phenomenal motor.

    I can definitely see why he was the draft pick now. So while Ojulari is the better player right now still in my eyes, Tryon most certainly has the higher ceiling and could potentially become an absolute game wrecker in the near future.

  7. Destinjohnny Says:

    If we can’t beat hurts, we don’t deserve to advance .

  8. August 1976 Buc Says:

    JTS is a talented mystery so far.

    Who knows when it will click for him. Hopefully sooner than later.

    Stopping the run so far for JTS is not great.

    Time will tell, but again JTS is so far a talented mystery.

    GO BUCS!!!!

  9. BucfanBF Says:

    Every team we face in the playoffs will try to run the ball at us starting with the Eagles who do it well until we can prove we can stop it. Unless we get our 3 veteran defensive players back it may be a tall order and our Offense with Brady will have to outscore their offense..

  10. Bucs Win Says:

    Dude is too much finesse, not violent enough. Yet.

  11. Jmarkbuc Says:


    I’m not saying he won’t be… maybe it’s just that we need him bad right now. I’m sure taking a year off then stepping into a full year of the pro game is a shock. Next year will tell more.

  12. Biff Barker Says:

    JTS gets swallowed up by blockers faster than Rosie O’Donnell at the free taco bar.

  13. Bobby M. Says:

    JTS is running around lost….which is expected for a rookie. If we had JPP, Shaq, David…we could then assign JTS to a particular role that he could execute over and over. Unfortunately with all those guys out, he’s having to take on more in the scheme and he’s not ready. He looks confused, like he’s not sure if he should go aggressive or play off. It is what it is…..the experience is the only way he learns and maybe with those guys coming back, he can take on a more simplified role that allows him to simply attack.

  14. Killian Says:

    Arians said that our starting D will play together for the first time since week 1. If that’s the case, we should have no issues stopping the run.

  15. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I’d use Gholston more on the outside….even Vita……beef up the Dline…..we have Nacho to add…..
    We desperately need Shaq back…..he’s the key to our pass rush….& I think Devin White will be more effective with LVD back.

  16. Biff Barker Says:

    The Buc faithful are looking at the defensive version of OJ Howard. Its kind of early to have that dreaded “bust” feeling, but I just cant shake it.

  17. HC Grover Says:

    His highlight tape song would be Tiny Tims ‘Tiptoe” hit. He ain’t mean. He hits like a powder puff. He could set up an easel, canvas, and paint, to capture the action he observes while touring the field. get rid of him and find a big, mean, bad man. Finesse ain’t the ticket against pro linemen.

  18. Biff Barker Says:

    Off topic but OJ Howard has done nothing. NOTHING. Its gotten so bad that the GOAT wont throw him the ball.

  19. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Is it possible Bowles is not playing him to his.strengths and expects too much? Sometimes speed kills. Does anyone else grind their teeth everytime a blitzing corner runs right by the ball carrier. Tyron dies this a LOT!

  20. Beeej Says:

    Well, he led the team in passes defensed.

  21. D-Rome Says:

    There were a few times he was loafing out there.

  22. Wild Bill Says:

    Did you notice how they chip blocked Tryon and let him rush in to his right why they ran past him around his side? He is a sucker for a trap block. Fast off the line but easily set up. And not strong enough to bull rush. More of a trim handsome dancer instead of bad ass. Dam, with his size and speed try him out at tight end next season.

  23. HC Grover Says:

    In the last 5 years drafts we hit 3 winners, Wirfs, White, and Vea. 2 losers, Howard and Plan 9 from outer Space. 3 winners out of 5 not bad.

  24. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Tom you do know that the Eagles rested their entire team basically which is why Minshew was playing

  25. Jmarkbuc Says:

    HC Grover

    Let’s Hope White doesn’t become Kwon Pt. Deux

  26. crazyBucs_CL Says:

    He was and will remain an “opt-out” guy.
    He is all about himself.

  27. Ed Says:

    JTS needs to dig his feet in the ground and get lower on his edge rush. He is playing too upright. Its true, he needs more weight and muscle. Some of his bull rushes got closer to pushing into QB but adding more strength will improve that.

    He looks like he hasn’t grown into his full body yet.

    And by the way, will Devon White stop whiffing on sacks. The guy is a bullet but quarterbacks just slide and he runs past them.

  28. jarldg Says:

    Article misspells Jalen Hurts.

  29. PassingThru Says:

    Yeah, all it takes is a well-placed chip block to take Tryon-Shoyinka out of a play. In other words, his own speed is used against him due to his lack of counters. We used to call players like that “athletes who play football” as opposed to being an athletic football player.

    Patience, he’s good clay. The speed and athleticism are excellent, if he can be coached-up he’ll make an impact next season.

  30. Mike Johnson Says:

    Tryon is going to be OK. He is learning. But he’s not close to where we want him to be. Look for him to be more a factor next season. Don’t slight them Eagles. Their O line is solid, and they can score.

  31. Crunchbuc Says:

    Talent? All you people talk about is his talent. His TALENT is running around like a chicken with his head cut off. He high steps and prances but he never makes a play. And it has NOTHING to do with being a rookie. Dude jogs down field when the back gets by him. He gets locked down and thrown around like a rag doll by O linemen. I have watched every single down he played last two games. Always same thing. Not hustling. No feel for the game and no nose for the ball. Dude is a bust!!!!