“He Had Some Other Things Going On That Affected Him, I Think”
September 14th, 2021
Cornerback Jamel Dean
File this under the players-are-human-too category.
Cornerback Jamel Dean was roasted repeatedly Thursday against the Cowboys. So was fill-in corner Ross Cockrell, but that more expected.
Joe wrote yesterday about Dean and Arians expecting him to “bounce back.”
Today, Arians spoke after practice and threw out a cryptic excuses for Dean’s opening-day performance. “He had some other things going on that affected him, I think.”
Arians added: “Nothing that he can’t fix real fast.”
Pressed for details, Arians would not elaborate on what was going on with Dean. Joe sure hopes all is well in Dean’s family.
September 14th, 2021 at 12:34 pm
Then sit his ass down…..oh wait,,,, we can’t b/c Jason Licht pissed away a 2nd rd pick on a QB who Bruce Arians will never coach instead of a young stud DB
September 14th, 2021 at 12:42 pm
I think Dean will turn out to be a good DB. He just needs his confidence back. one pick and he’ll be all smiles.
September 14th, 2021 at 12:54 pm
@Medicated Pete strikes again. Get the popcorn, Joe. #TeamTrask #GoBucs
September 14th, 2021 at 12:58 pm
Druggie Pete
Give it a F ing rest. The Buccaneers have the best damn general manager in football right now. Take a look at the 4 year track record and the Super Bowl ring on the players fingers. Every move is not going to be a pro bowler. Get over it and move the hell on.
Besides, what young stud CB was out there better than what they have on the roster or the one they drafted?
Is that a rhetorical. I don’t need a response from you or any other ignorant pseudo-fab that constantly bashes the coaching staff, Donovan Smith,
or Jason Licht
September 14th, 2021 at 1:10 pm
pete the “realist” LOL
September 14th, 2021 at 1:11 pm
@ David
No, Tom Brady is the best GM b/c he signed: AB, Gronk, Fournette
September 14th, 2021 at 1:13 pm
Perhaps he had Hemorrhoids Fibromyalgia Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Shingles, Constipation, Diarrhea or as Joe might claim…..way too many Big Storm Bromosas……
September 14th, 2021 at 1:14 pm
Alright pete I will take the b8.
we could have taken a project DB that may or may not be better then a backup.
I mean Paulson Adebo caught in INT that was tipped. or Benjamin St-Juste or aaron robinson.
All of which would be about as good as the current backups right now.
I mean I know you hate Kyle Trask but give it a rest. I mean the team just won a super bowl and you’re complaining we drafted a developmental QB with talent instead of a backup CB.
September 14th, 2021 at 1:24 pm
Who is this stud DB Licht passed up in the draft Pete? What DB should we have taken with the last pick in the second round?
September 14th, 2021 at 1:35 pm
Pete –
Dude you need to chill. I’m pretty sure the front office have the personnel thing under control.
Here’s to a Super Bowl run and poised for a repeat to earn our benefit of the doubt.
September 14th, 2021 at 1:44 pm
Jamel has been getting TORCHED since he entered the league.
Why does everyone keeping making EXCUSES for this guy????? He sucks!
September 14th, 2021 at 2:07 pm
I think Dean has the highest ceiling of the CBS we have needs to get to the next level like last year pick 6 on a rod.
September 14th, 2021 at 2:12 pm
I still have flashbacks to the Seattle game when he wore the red long sleeves and Russ ate his lunch.
Pistol
September 14th, 2021 at 2:47 pm
Take your meds Pete and calm down, it’ll be alright. And so will this defense, a defense that has the last four years picked up the place game by game and ends the season as one of the more respected units out there.
September 14th, 2021 at 2:54 pm
Agree they could have picked better in the 2nd round. A DB or a RB.
September 14th, 2021 at 3:03 pm
1 game since the draft and a championship and there is panic in the air? Take your medications!
September 14th, 2021 at 3:53 pm
MedicatedPete…I’m more pissed we gave up on MJ Stewart, who always seems to be on the field for a decent Browns defense. Now we have to scramble with Cockrell, who is not better.
September 14th, 2021 at 4:07 pm
Two things… the Cowboys have very good WRs and a very good QB, again, people can’t just discount that. Our WRs are going to torch very good corners, and when that happens we don’t say, wow, the other teams corners stink. We say, our WRs are awesome. Well, the Cowboys WRs are awesome.
With that said, if you want a quick fix, then get pressure on the QB. Stop blitzing from 5 yards deep when the other team’s QB is just doing quick throws – that pressure never gets there from that deep.
But I expect a bounce back. The Falcons have one top flight WR, and their TE is hopefully too young to be a big factor – hopefully. But neither one of those things matter if the pressure gets to Ryan.
September 14th, 2021 at 4:18 pm
TRADE NEXT YEAR’S #1 PICK AND HOWARD FOR A STARTING CORNER NOW
September 14th, 2021 at 4:37 pm
Sorry to say Pete and Brady Bucs are right. I don’t care what the reason, play your best or sit. This isn’t a middle school flag football game. He could not cover one of Cowboys receivers. If it weren’t for Brady and the oline that game was OVA. BA would be singing a different tune if they lost blaming everyone and their brother. Brady should of threw for 450 and 6 tds if wr & RB’s could catch.
September 14th, 2021 at 4:39 pm
Everyone forgets, Dean had one of the highest pass defended, 17 in 2019. He also had one of the highest PFF Coverage grades among CBs that year.
September 14th, 2021 at 4:45 pm
One game one game Jesus!!!
September 14th, 2021 at 4:51 pm
In the past seven years we have drafted these cornerbacks.
Vernon Hargreaves
MJ Stewart
Carlton Davis
Sean Murphy-Bunting
Jamel Dean
Chris Wilcox
Currently we have these CBs on our roster which we have acquired through methods other than through the drafts.
Ross Cockrell
Dee Delaney
Pierre Desir
Herb Miller
The next six CBs drafted after Kyle Trask in 2021 were as follows.
Aaaron Robinson, Central Florida
Benjamin St-Juste, Minnesota
Elijah Molder, Washington
Ifeatu Melifonwu, Syracuse
Ambry Thomas, Michigan
Robert Rochell, Central Arkansas
Finally, we could have drafted one of the following CBs instead of OLB Joe Tryon-Shoyinka.
Tyson Campbell, Georgia
Kelvin Joseph, Kentucky
Asante Samuel, Florida State
What should Licht have done? Who can we be SURE would be ready to replace Murphy-Bunting? Who do we KNOW could do a better job than Dean pray tell?
September 14th, 2021 at 5:04 pm
What else was going on with him was he was scared, you could see it in his eyes. Dak was like ” Where’s my beech??? Where’s my beech??? Oh yeah there’s my beech!!!” He needed coach Klein’s tacklin fuel! Man up son!
September 14th, 2021 at 5:07 pm
Jimbo, Google is our friend. Nice
September 14th, 2021 at 5:38 pm
Not hard to sort out
He got his ass kicked
September 14th, 2021 at 6:22 pm
@BradyBucs … “Jamel has been getting TORCHED since he entered the league. Why does everyone keeping making EXCUSES for this guy????? He sucks!”
Interesting analysis; if only it was backed up with facts. Jamel’s in his 3rd year here. He’s been targeted 131 times thus far, and has only allowed 75 completions … as in 57.3%. Has 3 INTs, 0 MRs plus 25 PDs in 1,154 defensive snaps.
SMB is also in his 3rd year here. He’s been targeted 166 times and has allowed 119 completions … as in 71.7%. Has 4 INTs, 1 FR plus 11 PDs in 1,584 defensive snaps.
Carlton Davis, our best CB, is in his 4th year here. He’s been targeted 294 times and has allowed 166 completions … as in 56.5%. Has 6 INTs, 2 MRs plus 44 PDs in 2,640 defensive snaps.
Looks to me like Jamel Dean has pretty much held his own for the first 2 years, having allowed almost exactly the same completion percentage as Carlton Davis & considerably better than SMB. And I’d think that whenever any CB allows a lower completion percentage than what NFL QBs typically throw for, that he’s done alright. Tom Brady for instance has a career completion percentage of 64.0%, and Jamel Dean’s only allowed 57.3% completions. Personally I’m impressed & can’t understand why anyone would conclude that ‘he sucks’.
September 14th, 2021 at 7:20 pm
Defense Rules, did you watch Thursdays game? Do the math on that one and see I your formula works.
September 14th, 2021 at 7:38 pm
@Rod Munch, I agree with you. We got the W but the Cowboys are back. I think that adjustments will be made on defense. Atlanta is the focus. Phili bent but didn’t break when Ice started hot. Only 2 FG’s though and then the Eagles spanked them. The Bucs should be able to do the same thing this week. And we have a Tom Brady lead offense. They had terrible turnovers and still 29 points. They should be good for 40 this week. It’s total team, not half the team. The Bucs will be ok. Don’t panic yet Pete lol
September 14th, 2021 at 7:51 pm
Defense Rules just spelled it out for you in black and white
BA seems pretty damn confident in the corner he drafted
#gravediggers
Go Bucs
September 14th, 2021 at 7:52 pm
Listnfrmafar … Yes I did watch the whole game. Dean didn’t have his best game as a pro by any means, but neither did quite a few other guys. But anyone who’s ever played team sports knows that sometimes you play better in some games than in some others.
But that’s not cause to condemn someone, as in ‘Jamel has been getting TORCHED since he entered the league’. Overall he’s done quite well I think for a 2nd Rnd pick who usually only gets to start outside when someone gets hurt (like SMB Thurs night?). And oh BTW, Prescott was doing quite well & he’s got some of the best receivers in the league to work with.
None of us know what BA was alluding to when he said that Dean had “some other things going on that affected him”, but BA’s not really known for making excuses for players. I’d say quite the opposite.
September 14th, 2021 at 8:42 pm
I’m getting a little tired of these “so and so had mental issues” explanations. Twice in 7 days. Get your act together and play the dahm game. My tickets are too expensive for me to watch you go Simmone Biles on us.
September 14th, 2021 at 8:59 pm
@Adam
You do know that Simone like many other US gymnasts was abused by hat pos doctor. She is on medication which the Japan govt would not allow into their Country. I’m not a doctor but know enough that many of these meds you can’t just stop taking cold turkey without adverse reactions or conditions. Before you criticize her, a gymnast with skills matched by no other in the history of the sport, you should try to obtain all of the facts. 🤷♂️
September 14th, 2021 at 10:13 pm
The traditional fan overreaction… Dean is inconsistent, but he’s had some good moments, and he’s probably played better as starter than off the bench.
Also, the nutjob who wants to trade a #1 and OJ Howard for a CB now is literally out of his mind. One game into the season and armchair GMs are planning desperation moves.
September 14th, 2021 at 10:51 pm
I think Dean might be a better safety than a conerback . I will have to try him in safety . With all that height and speed think about him in a man to man cover 2 defense. That’s where I will put him .
September 15th, 2021 at 9:58 am
Dean constantly bites on the double move.
Almost every time.
Now, he is playing tight- and getting beat off the line.
I think Cockrell and Miller will be getting alot of minutes, across from Davis.
Delaney also showed a little.
Right now, Dean is a clear weak link. Hes gonna see a lot of targets
September 15th, 2021 at 6:07 pm
Defense Rules, you are correct Cockrell & SMB pre injury were also getting smoked. I did play li ebacker in college, that being said it is clear when a DB or any cover player is confused. It appeared it was only Copper that had his # but he was beaten by pretty much all he covered. The only one that lived up to the team status was Davis and Adam’s. This team needs a good veteran DB to lead them they are to young. If Dean had the Hershey squirts then sit him.