Terry Bradshaw Is A Big Fan Of Kyle Trask

May 7th, 2021

Admires Bucs rookie QB.

Terry Bradshaw was a tough SOB as a quarterback.

To this day, Bradshaw, who for decades has been a studio host for FOX NFL broadcasts and also won four Super Bowls with the Steelers, is the only guy Joe ever saw who was wheeled off the field on a stretcher in the first half and started behind center to open the second half of the same game.

This was in the days of the NFL when teeing off on quarterbacks and receivers was not just legal, but demanded by coaches. When the Steelers and Raiders played, it was a street fight on a football field.

Raiders safety George Atkinson ran away from Franco Harris in the open field while making a beeline to Lynn Swann so he could clothesline Swann. Bradshaw once got blown up so bad he still can’t remember throwing a Super Bowl-clinching touchdown pass.

Then there was the time Bradshaw was on the wrong end of a pile-drive into the turf by the Browns lineman Turkey Jones. Bradshaw tore up his shoulder, though Jones did get flagged.

The 1970s NFL was wild!

So Bradshaw, who is a big fan of Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, puts a premium on tough quarterbacks who can take a beating.

And his new favorite quarterback is Bucs rookie Kyle Trask.

In an appearance earlier this week on “The Herd” with Colin Cowherd, seen weekdays on FS1, Bradshaw detailed his admiration for Trask and thinks that toughness will play a key factor in his development.

That same kind of mental discipline, Bradshaw said, is the type that fueled park-violating, home-invading, NFLPA-ignoring, down-forgetting, handshake-stiffing, jet-ski-losing, biscuit-baking, tequila-shooting, smartphone-phobic, waffle-grilling, trophy-throwing, roller-coaster-scared, numbers-rules-peeved, Bucs-Super-Bowl-winning quarterback Tom Brady into the living legend he is.

“I like [Kyle] Trask that went to Tampa Bay out of Florida,” Bradshaw began. “I like him a lot. There is a kid that has been through everything bad that can happen to a kid. Never starting in high school and walking on at Florida? ‘Now look at me, I went in the second round to Tampa Bay.’

“I know a little bit about him. Now that is the kind of guy I like. A guy that’s been through it and survived it. You have got to go through the trenches in this league. You’ve got to — even Brady when he was drafted he went right to [Patriots owner] Mr. Kraft and said, ‘Hey, you know, you are going to be glad you drafted me.’ He had a chip on his shoulder. He used that to his benefit and it made him tough.

“You’ve got to have that to play in the National Football League, especially at quarterback.”

Joe thinks Bradshaw is onto something. A guy like Trask who has fought through injuries, fought through always being the underdog, he’s not going to get rattled easily if Bucs Super Bowl-winning coach Bucco Bruce Arians hollers at him for making a mistake.

Hat tip: @thefrankmenendez.

93 Responses to “Terry Bradshaw Is A Big Fan Of Kyle Trask”

  1. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I hope Trask reads JBF….that should give him daily motivation……supporters & detractors.

  2. ncbucsfan Says:

    Exactly!! Mental toughness is 80% of playing the game, 20% physical tools. And that ratio is probably heightened at the QB position. There are plenty of guys more “talented” than Brady, but NONE, I mean not one with the mental fortitude this guy has. 7 rings don’t fall from trees!! If Trask has it between his ears, Tampa just may be preparing to enjoy just as much winning over the next decade as the losing we endured during, as Joe puts it, “The Lost Decade”!!

  3. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    TBBF, I disagree. If he needs to read blogs to get motivated then he’s lost. The drive needs to come from within. Does he have that drive? I don’t know… but I sure hope so.

  4. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Terry, I idolized you when I was a kid and I respect all that you did on the football field.
    But for the love of god…… please stop trying to do the halftime highlights.
    You’re terrible at it! It’s unwatchable.

  5. Medicated Pete Says:

    Whatever Bradshaw & Favre say…..the opposite is 100% true.

  6. Elita Vita Says:

    Didn’t like the pick to start with but now I am beginning to think that with Brady and proper coaching he can become quite good in the NFL. Go Trask!

  7. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    Medicated Pete both Favre and Bradshaw say your posts are well thought out

  8. Cobraboy Says:

    Generally players are advised to stay away from media, although some cannot help themselves.

  9. Buc Unto Death Says:

    Medicated Pete is a useless troll. why waste your time, and ours?

  10. Buczilla Says:

    Bradshaw is underrated and underappreciated. He’s one of the better quarterbacks to ever play, yet lesser players like Aikman and Elway are routinely ranked above him. Sad. While I’m enjoying the era of high scoring, running quarterback football, it just can’t compare to the game that was played in the early 90’s and before. Too many teams and sissified rules changes have watered down the game considerably. Still the best sport going now by far, but it could be so much more.

  11. Anonymous Says:

    Quiet Terry, don’t you know we have trolls like medicated Pete that know way more about QB play than an actual 4 time Super Bowl winner and Hall of famer. We will listen to the troll Terry, he obviously knows more than you.

  12. Wesley Says:

    Brady hater.

  13. Mitch Says:

    Bucs won the Super Bowl last year, and are in a good position to make a deep playoff run/repeat this year. Like many of you we have suffered through putrid, ugly, terrible football, bad coaching, and toxic cultures. We all know they have been a laughing stock in this league more than they have even been relevant, let alone great. I am going to enjoy every moment of the teams success and won’t criticize their personnel moves until the day comes again that we are seriously talking the draft in October.

  14. DingleBerry Says:

    If you thought Bradshaw was an idiot for saying we should keep Jameis, don’t now call him a genius because he likes Kyle Trask.

    I was open to keeping Jameis before Tom Brady became a legitimate possibility and when we signed him I told everyone I knew that the Bucs were going to be the first team ever to win a home game Super Bowl. So this is not a pro Jameis post and I’m not a Jameis apologist.

    I’m just saying, keep the same energy.

  15. Cobraboy Says:

    Bradshaw was great before QBs wore ballet skirts. Dude was tougher than woodpecker lips.

  16. SOEbuc Says:


    I don’t know if you’re a gator fan or what but you literally have made your first three articles about Trask today. And I don’t know if others noticed this year but sadly Bradshaw is slipping into dementia.

    I’m a real fan of Bucs and JBF, and I don’t know if you care or not Joe, but you really need to get off Trask. I know this is probably the hardest time to write NFL, but these continuous Trask articles make me not want to read JBF. Like I said, don’t care if you care, just trying to be honest.

  17. DingleBerry Says:

    Can’t blame Joe too much for the Trask articles, he didn’t draft the guy. He just happens to see that it’s a hot button issue that’s sparking debate and generating clicks.

    More clicks equals more eyeballs on ads which means more cash from advertisers.

  18. August 1976 Buc Says:

    We are in the draft cycle, why would there not be articles about who they drafted, especially someone who “might” actually be the future for many years in Tampa. I am a FSU fan and a Buc fan, not a Gator, but am VERY GLAD they drafted Trask, a tough kid, who is accurate and has not been plagued by bad decisions, does not turn the ball over. Good post about Trask. GO BUCS!!!!

  19. Youngbucs Says:


  20. SOEbuc Says:

    That’s it. Joe writes purely for adds of beers and bars. It is the draft cycle. Can we talk about one other draft pick other than the guy that MAYBE will get on the field in three years.

  21. catcard202 Says:

    Terry B on fire this week…

    1st he calls Rodgers a whiny litte B—- over “sources” saying he wanting out of GB….Then over inflates Trask’s journey down the road less traveled (career BU in HS & college)…& tops it off by comparing 2nd Rd Kyle to guy with the greatest “chip on his shoulder” ever – taken in the 6th.

    It’s not like this was Justin Fields that slide from the top of draft boards to bottom of 2nd rd…Or Felipe Franks – who was the guy at UF that Trask could not beat out – until he was injured. (arguably had a better yr at ARK than Trask at UF – given the talent disparity between those rosters. (& went undrafted – signed UDFA contract w/ ALT)

    Love me some Bradshaw…He’s always good for a hot take.
    But the problem w/ his hot take is that Trask seems like the kid that is willing to take a seat, learn & wait on his opportunity – behind the aging GOAT…& NOT the guy that tells the owner on day 1, that he’s the best investment he’s ever made

  22. SC. Bucs Fan Says:

    I love people who complain about quality and content of articles on a free blog

  23. I CARE NOW Says:


    Can we get an IRA article with his take on all the depth that the team has added to the Defense POST DRAFT.

    Some of these guys are gonna stick. I am really liking what I am seeing on both sides of the ball.

    I don’t think it is covered well enough. The front office team/staff is killing it right now. They are the NFL MVP(s) of the off season once again this year!!!

    Check out them post roster additions IRA. What say you of the job being done at One Buc. Have they not put together a well rounded team in all 3 phases of the game. Who do you think the surprise talent of the new blood in camp is gonna stick.

    I am betting the Joseph Jones the LB that we got (after Denver cut him) will make the team.

  24. I CARE NOW Says:

    Can we get an IRA article with his take on all the depth that the team has added to the Defense POST DRAFT.

    Some of these guys are gonna stick. I am really liking what I am seeing on both sides of the ball.

    I don’t think it is covered well enough. The front office team/staff is killing it right now. They are the NFL MVP(s) of the off season once again this year!!!

    Check out them post roster additions IRA. What say you of the job being done at One Buc. Have they not put together a well rounded team in all 3 phases of the game. Who do you think the surprise talent of camp will be, who of the new bloods will stick?

    I am betting on Joseph Jones, the LB we got (after Denver cut him) will make the team.

  25. AKicknTheBucNuts Says:


    Bradshaw thinks Trask landed in the ideal situation for a QB in Tampa.

    More of the same news at 11.

  26. huh Says:

    Bradshaw is a bumbling idiot

  27. August 1976 Buc Says:

    Bradshaw is actually a very rich, 4 time Super Bowl Champion, that speaks his mind, whether we agree or not. Authentic. He makes fun of himself and throws barbs at others. At least he is not trying to just be what everyone wants him to be. Sounds like many other Americans that believe in the freedom of speech. Do I agree with everything from him, not a chance, like last year he thought Brady was full of it for leaving NE. Well, he ate crow on that. But again, he is authentic, whether we like him or not. And that is refreshing. GO BUCS!!!!!

  28. Bucsfanman Says:

    Whether you agree or disagree, Bradshaw is just stating his opinion so keep your nickers on.
    Don’t like the Trask stories? Move on. That’s what I do when I don’t care about the subject.
    The fact is that Trask is the “heir apparent” we have been clamoring for. I for one am interested in seeing what the kid is about, ESPECIALLY because I was not a big Trask fan to begin with.

    And you better put some respect in your mouth when talking about Bradshaw! Dude was a baller!

  29. SOEbuc Says:

    Authentic? Bradshaw probably the biggest color man on all these pre game shows. Him, SAS, and Shannon have Saturday night sleepovers. His white ass sleeps in the other room.

  30. August 1976 Buc Says:

    You nailed it Bucsfanman Says. “Trask is the Heir Apparent”, and yes I am glad also to learn about, because I saw very little College football last year living here in the Philippines. and ditto about Bradshaw. GO BUCS!!!

  31. DingleBerry Says:

    I don’t know how anyone could read anything I write and deduce that I’m ndog but I this point I also don’t care.

    I know who I am and I know who I’m not but believe what you want to believe.

    Go Bucs. 20-0

  32. August 1976 Buc Says:

    Bucs 20-0 I would love to see it. DBerry, You know why some label you N Dog, because you post stuff so contrary to what others want to see. He was a continuous scourge of JBF for so many lol. Until Brady and the Bucs went on their 8-0 run to win it all. You make your opinions known very adamantly lol. So if you want to make the comments you do lol, just know that the responses you get, come with the territory lol. And yes Bucs 20-0 GO BUCS!!!!

  33. SOEbuc Says:

    WTF ever. See, it’s boring to have a bunch of posts about how wrong people’s opinion is on the creation of an article. That’s how I see it at least.

    Does everyone have their opinion on Trask’s future??? Seems like it.

    But there’s the one thing…I ain’t Joe and I don’t run the site and write the articles. It’s just a critic that professionals can handle from a true Buc and JBF fan

  34. August 1976 Buc Says:

    lol lol lol long live JBF GO BUCS!!!!

  35. gotbbucs Says:

    Was this meant to instill confidence or fear?

  36. mark2001 Says:

    Dangle isn’t N dog. And he has every right to take a contrarian position. Or any position he chooses.
    None of us know really how Trask will play out. All I know is that Licht, Arians, Moore, Clyde, and Lefty like him. And Brady obviously is willing to work with him. So who am I to make a judgment regarding his inability to contribute to this team?

  37. Ash Says:

    Yeah I love seeing the different opinions because people see it differently than others hate the fact that it turns into a versus debate and turns into, oh you’re a troll because you don’t see it how I see it or you’re stupid for thinking what you think.

  38. Steven007 Says:

    Ndog was so single-minded in his propping up of JW, his stamina was impressive even as his point s were redundant and often ludicrous. In these early days after the draft Dingles posts trashing Trask before he’s even held a football in a practice session reeked the same way Ndogs posts reeked. But that’s where the similarities end for me. Dingle has since backed off from the mind numbing redundancy of his initial posts. I’m not sure if negative dog would have been able to do so. The irony is Ndog was a decent poster in the beginning before his JW obsession took hold. To that end Dingles non-trask post s seem cogent as well.

  39. DBS Says:

    There is a real easy solution to it. If you don’t like it don’t read it.

  40. Fred mcneil Says:

    Terry (TB?) is just making small talk. It’s not an attempt at in-depth analysis or a serious prognostication.
    I like Terry Bradshaw.

  41. DingleBerry Says:

    My whole thing about Trask is, at the risk of repeating myself, I just don’t see the upside.

    I understand the pedigree of all the guys who signed off on him, but to me, when you so clearly have one of the best incubators for a young QB in the entire league…

    Why wouldn’t you pick the guy who has a better arm, quicker release, is a better athlete and has more upside?

    Isn’t that the guy you would want your amazing group of QB gurus to coach and have learn from the Goat?

  42. Steven007 Says:

    You answered your own question at the beginning of your second paragraph. That really is the long and short of it. I mean obviously.

  43. DingleBerry Says:

    Still doesn’t explain to me why they would want a guy like Trask, who according to Arians has a Brad Johnson like ceiling (who at his best was a solid game manager) over a guy like Mond with a much higher ceiling.

    In my mind all of that great coaching would be far better utilized on a more talented prospect.

  44. Ne+ bucs fan Says:

    Well said mitch

  45. mark2001 Says:

    Dingle…I think what makes it so difficult to try to qualify the future success of a QB based upon quantifiable factors. So much of the success is between the ears. The speed of recognition, analysis and reaction among them. Those things you mentioned are important. But lack of any one or two isn’t disqualifying. The ability to read, make adjustments, and make the right throws…toughness…good judgement… seem to be consistently paramount. And those are harder to gauge because so much goes into that. That is why though most QB’s chosen in the first round have the physical tools you mentioned ..but so few of them succeed.

  46. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Laughing at ppl thinking Trask needs some uber “NFL” coaching. Dan Mullen is one of the best QB coaches in all of football and worked with Trask to make him the top QB last year in college The guy led NCAA in passing last year and if he had a defense they would have destroyed Bama. Trask will be a stud NFL qb and hope it is here in Tampa

  47. Cainishere Says:

    Gee Dingles I do not remember reading one post from you last season. What I see from you is a load of poo 💩

  48. Steven007 Says:

    Dingle, I think we all know what you’re saying because Lord knows you said it enough. But clearly the Brain trust disagrees or they would have picked your guy who was available. Again, it’s as simple as that. You read your pre-draft materials and watched your pre-draft film and came to a different conclusion than the pros in our front office. That doesn’t mean they’ll be right. But the pick has been made and any conjecture at this point is meaningless. Now a couple years down the road if your guy becomes a star and Trask is nothing but a backup, you can do a victory lap. But it’s premature to do a victory lap now.

  49. DoooshLaRue Says:


    Excellent summation of negative dog in your earlier post.
    That lil pup sure did have lots of stamina…… he just wouldn’t stop peeing on the carpet though!

  50. SB~LV Says:

    Of course you root for a guy like Trask… but at the end of the day
    He should be judged by his performance
    Unlike the 5 years of torture by Jameis

  51. BA4President Says:

    This is why I cringe when top QB prospects are referenced as “winners” and people say things like “they win at everything they do”, simply throwing away the players skill assessment for their college W-L record.

    Johnny Football, Matt Leinart, Tim Tebow, and Dwayne Haskins were advertised as “winners”.

    There is a lot to be said for overcoming adversity.

  52. Rod Munch Says:

    The guy from Cannonball Run talking football? LOL!

  53. gotbbucs Says:


    Look at the QB’s that Arians has been successful with. Ben Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer, Tom Brady. All guys that will sit in the pocket and deliver the ball.
    He’s not looking for guys that will try to extend plays with their legs, he’s looking for guys that will stay on schedule. This team just beat the best play extender at QB in the NFL with a 43 year old pocket passer.
    I don’t understand how people don’t see the formula for running a consistently successful offense in the NFL. It’s not by watching your QB scramble for 500 yards. Are those guys going to make some unbelievable plays? Sure, but they’re eventually going to take big hits and their athletic ability will erode.
    Trask never has to become the most gifted QB in the NFL to win football games. This is a team sport. He has to take what the defense gives him 90% of the time and take his shots when they’re available and not throw 30 interceptions.

  54. BA4President Says:

    @gotbbucs Well said

  55. JimmyJack Says:

    Joe Im pretty sure the mentality of the 70s that you described above is the exact reason why some fans never cared for the apoligitic happy go lucky style of Gerald McCoy. My bet is these fans are those that have that old school mentalty and appreciate guys who still got that edge to them.

    I will admitt McCoy does got a beautiful smile. But that arent do much for me in thefootball field. I like a little grit to my football player. We just like what we like man.

  56. DoooshLaRue Says:


    A beautiful smile?
    I guess if your into big gums!


  57. DingleBerry Says:


    I would argue there is a distinct difference between the QB’s you mentioned and based on how many times I’ve addressed it to this point I’m sure you can guess what that difference is.

  58. Cobraboy Says:

    Mike Vick was the most physically gifted QB to enter the NFL ever. Ever.

    With just two “small” flaw: his brain and his heart.

    Tom Brady may be the most physically ungifted QB coming into the NFL. But he did excel in two small areas: his head and his heart.

    A scout can measure physical traits, but no test yet exists that can measure head and heart. That is why the NFL Draft is not science, but art.

    Dingle, I wish I could buy your opinions for what they are worth and sell them for what you think they’re worth.

    I could buy the Bucs…

  59. DingleBerry Says:

    Brady has always had a special arm. Even at 43 the guy can put zip on the ball and fit it into tight windows at the highest of levels. And we saw last year that him being a dink and dunk QB who can’t push the ball down field has always been a myth.

    There is a visible difference in the level of Brady’s arm vs Trask’s on tape .

  60. Cobraboy Says:

    @DingleBerry: coming out of college did NOT have a “special arm.”

    His scouting report: “Tom Brady: poor build, skinny, lacks great physical stature and strength and gets knocked down easily.”

    Nothing about a “special arm.”

    You live in an alternate football universe.


  61. JeffreyLane77 Says:

    Just FYI for everyone. There was a very entertaining reality show for two seasons I believe. Terry Bradshaw, Henry Winkler, George Foreman and William Shatner. Traveling the world together. Absolutely hilarious at times. “Better Late than Never”. I highly recommend it..

  62. ClodHopper Says:

    Speaking of Cowherd, I remember him making this point many moons ago describing the difference between Jay Cutler and Vince Young.

    I’ve never understood the complaining about the type of content between the beginning of February and the end of July.

  63. DingleBerry Says:

    Dude you can go and watch Tom Brady’s Michigan highlights right now and watch him throw with more velocity than Kyle Trask and that was as a string bean. Old school scouts saw how skinny Tom was back then and definitely judged him more harshly because of it.

    Tom Brady filled out his frame in his 1st year at New England and has been around 220-225 ever since, those extra 10-15 in addition to coaching enabled Tom Brady to improve his arm and since his first game as a starter in the NFL Tom Brady didn’t have a cannon, but he definitely has a special arm and can sling it.

    Why does any of this matter? Well because Kyle Trask is 6’5 and unlike Brady, he doesn’t have very much room to grow physically. He’s filled out his frame already and is basically physically maxed out. I don’t see Trask’s arm getting much better than it is now. Which aint great.

  64. DingleBerry Says:

    Sorry, Trask is 6’5 236, forgot to mention his weight. But yeah for a guy as big as he is he should be able to put more oomf on his passes but he just can’t.

  65. BradyBucs Says:


    I truly wonder if he was able to actually enjoy us winning the Super Bowl?

    He was so bitter that they didn’t resign Jameis, but was supposedly a Bucs fan.

    A big part of me thinks he DIDN’T actually get to enjoy us winning it all. His cognitive bias had him so dedicated to try to prove his point that the Bucs made a mistake signing Brady, that even up until the end of the SB he was hoping he wasn’t wrong – which he was.

    So much so that he stopped posting on this site, a site that he posted on nearly everyday (many, many times) for ages.

  66. BradyBucs Says:


    Dude, seriously… this is like your 3,000+ anti-Trask post. Give it a rest.

    We get it, you’ve already stated a million times that you think he has a weak arm and can’t succeed in the NFL. WE GET IT.

    At this point it’s a “just wait and see” situation. He was drafted, he’s on the team now, it’s over. He may or may not stay on the team long term, but let’s all just see what happens.

    The “I told you so’s” can wait until he actually FAILS. But until he fails, he deserves the benefit of the doubt and so do the Bucs Staff for drafting him.

  67. Cobraboy Says:

    At least DingleBerry admits he was full of crap when he said Brady had a “special arm” coming out of college. He didn’t.

    As the King of Casual Fan, ‘Berry, you don’t know squat about Trask’s or anyone else’s “potential” or what is “maxed out.” Nothing. Nada. Zip.

    You have NO idea what kind of “oomph” Trask can deliver.

    I will take Licht & Co.’s evaluation of a guy before I’ll take a Casual Fan’s Quivering Vapors Rage Googling of youtube “film” on a subject of which he knows nothing.

    I doubt you even know how to wear a jockstrap.

  68. DingleBerry Says:

    I definitely haven’t posted anywhere near that much, and how bout this, you don’t like what I wrote? Don’t read it.

  69. BradyBucs Says:


    Furthermore, this “lacks the arm strength to put it into tight windows” is a bit of a MYTH.

    Reading a Defense, anticipating space, and ACCURACY are often more important than just arm strength, especially in the context of having at least ‘fair’ arm strength which Trask does. A really weak arm isn’t getting it done no matter what but Trask doesn’t have a weak arm he just doesn’t have elite arm strength.

    Any OUT route relies less on a “tight closing window” (like a pass over the middle into closing zone space) and relies more on accuracy and throwing the ball to the target before the WR even gets there.

    There’s a reason why Arians said Trask can MAKE ALL THE THROWS in the Bucs Offense that they run.

    ACCURACY makes a massive difference. Winston has elite arm strength but had inconsistent accuracy, and we saw what problems that lead to.

    Many believe Trask was the most accurate passer in this recent draft. That says a lot.

    You also can’t downplay his UPSIDE potential since he hasn’t had a lot of playing experience, yet seemed to only get better the more playing time he had at UF.

  70. BradyBucs Says:

    Trask was also very successful against many top SEC Defenses where they had corners & safeties that will be playing in the NFL. It’s not like his success was racking up those big numbers he had against really weak teams in a tiny conference.

    Dingle you HAVE posted a lot of REDUNDANT posts saying the same thing about Trask over and over and over.

    As as “don’t read it” it’s not that easy since it takes up vertical scroll real estate in the comments and it at least takes time to read the name of who is posting the same stuff yet again, which wastes our time even if we don’t read the entire comment.

  71. BradyBucs Says:


    Tom Brady is a perfectionist. You don’t think he wants to add to his Legacy by helping his “Apprentice” QB in Brady’s final years ‘carry the torch’ and have success after Brady decides to retire?

    Brady & Trask may form a really close relationship. After Brady retires, he may even stick around Tampa helping the Bucs Organization anyway he can, including doing some coaching, especially for our QBs.

    This is a massive ‘bonus’ for Trask’s development.

  72. DingleBerry Says:

    Trask’s arm is below average for his size, that’s a fact.

    Arm strength is incredibly important in the NFL, Phil Simms believes that it’s actually underrated in terms of importance, that’s a fact.

    Trask’s production and success at UF was largely due to him playing in a QB friendly offense with elite weapons and because he was playing at the college level which has a lower requisite skill level for success, that’s a fact.

    AJ McCarron has done nothing in the NFL yet was tremendously productive and successful in the SEC. He is just one example, there are others.

    And lol you talk about me posting a lot and “taking up vertical scroll” and then you wrote a whole book. Funny how that works.

  73. SteveK Says:


    Is your former handle Ndog? They loved Jameis. You show up, admit in one post that you’ve changed your moniker, and express the equal amount of opposition for Trask that Ndog has love for Jameis.

    It would be really funny if ndog was still here, casting doubt on the drafted QB.

  74. DingleBerry Says:

    I’ve already expressed several times that I am not ndog.

  75. SteveK Says:

    Dingleberry, it would provide tremendous context to your opinion on Trask if we knew your previous moniker(s)?


    Love debating football.

    If you don’t want to share a previous handle, I get it, but where did you stand on Jameis? I was in the cut bait camp and hope he does well. Too many turnovers. Arm strength doesn’t mean squat if you can’t execute strong decisions.

    Trask can process quickly and make good decisions.

  76. DingleBerry Says:

    As I stated earlier, I was open to us bringing Jameis, mostly because I just wanted us to break the curse of never having resigned a drafted QB to 2nd contract, back until I learned that Tom Brady was a real possibility then I was all in on the Brady train.

    I am absolutely kicking myself because I knew we were going to win the SB last year after we signed Brady and I was even more confident after we traded for Gronk and should have made a beginning of the year wager that we would win it all. But I chickened out because I’m a little superstitious and didn’t want to jinx the team.

    I’m definitely not Ndog actually used to be a decent poster before his obsession for Jameis broke his brain lol.

  77. DingleBerry Says:

    I was open to us bringing Jameis *back* that is lol

  78. SteveK Says:

    Thanks Dingle!

    Good points and hope Ndog is doing well. I miss debating football w them.

  79. August 1976 Buc Says:

    Dingle, the first thing you look for is ACCURACY in a QB, then Decision making and Process and overall Mental toughness ….arm strength and athleticism is AFTER these traits.
    And Trask has more than enough Athleticism and Arm Strength for the NFL.

    As BradyBucs said “ACCURACY makes a massive difference. Winston has elite arm strength but had inconsistent accuracy, and we saw what problems that lead to”.

    You keep mentioning Brady’s arm strength, it is his ACCURACY that makes Tom so lethal along with process and decision making and grit.

    I was so used to Jameis and so many others for that matter, just try fire the ball in to tight places, BUT not really with any arc and touch.

    So when Brady got here, I began to see the way he would throw the ball with great touch, just dropping the ball in there, not just trying to throw a laser to the WR.

    Just seeing the way Brady threw the ball as opposed to Jameis and so many others, you could see Brady understood what he was trying to accomplish. Not just fire away based on arm strength like Jameis would do. This got the Bucs into a lot of bad situations and losses. Jameis showed he had Great confidence in his arm, but no concept of what he was are actually there to do, just make a simple pass for a completion, not throw the ball through the eye of a needle at 100mph and get intercepted or incomplete and punt.

    In 45 years of watching Football, I have seen so many QB’s that have had great arm strength but can’t hit the side of a barn when it comes to ACCURACY.

    If a QB is not ACCURATE then Everything Else Goes Out the Window. If you are not ACCURATE then you ceiling is AVERAGE to a little better than AVERAGE, but never will you become elite, like a Brady, or a Montana.

    ACCURACY is rarely if ever improved at the NFL level. When QB’s reach the NFL, what you see is what you get when it comes to ACCURACY.

    Trask is ACCURATE, Processes well, makes Good decisions. Does not turn the ball over. ARM Strenght comes after these traits. Trask has more than enough athleticism and mental toughness and grit to lead an NFL team. Whether he does or not, we will see.

    You will not find the word ACCURACY and Kellen Mond in the same sentence. So no thanks, Trask is the clear choice between the 2. GO BUCS!!!!!!

  80. August 1976 Buc Says:

    I forgot to add about ACCURACY and Brady, Brady throwing passes and hitting receivers in stride instead of them stopping and turning back to catch the ball, that makes a huge difference in the overall consistency of an offense. GO BUCS!!!!

  81. DingleBerry Says:

    Accuracy is indeed important. It can also be taught, Josh Allen completed 50% of his passes in college and is a super star now because he got coached up. Kellen Mond also got better each and every year in college and last year completed 63.3% of his passes. So it’s not exactly like he is a complete and total mess.

    With as amazing as our coaching staff is they should have been able to mold him into a pretty good player. I do believe in our coaching staff. I just don’t believe in Kyle Trask.

  82. DingleBerry Says:

    Kyle Trask was a 3 year starter, completed over 60% of his passes in his final year, had nearly a 3 to 1 TD-Int ratio and won 26 games in college. Has a legitimately strong arm, quick release, and is a plus athlete.

    You can’t tell me they couldn’t have coached this guy up if you’re telling me they can coach Trask past his limitations and turn him into a starting NFL QB.

  83. DingleBerry Says:

    Whoopsie, I’m a little too buzzed. Kellen Mond* was a 3 year starter… lmao

  84. August 1976 Buc Says:

    Ding, accuracy is not taught, go and really look at this through the years in the NFL. I did after years of being a Jameis fan, and Josh Freeman, and so many others. I have been a Jameis fan since the day he beat Pittsburgh in his freshman year at FSU. But in spite of his physical ability/ talent , which he has an abundance of, Jameis is just not accurate. (And Bad Decisions) You are either accurate or not. When you reach the Pro level what you see is what you get. To many times over the 5 years, Jameis would miss a wide open person by a wide margin. Josh Freeman is a good example of great physical talent, but not that accurate, in spite of his 25tds to 6 in terceptions, he just was not accurate overall. GO BUCS!!!!

  85. DingleBerry Says:

    There is a very good article you could read from insidethepylon.com about various QB skills and traits and examines whether or not a trait is attainable or inherent.

    I think you’ll be surprised at the results.

  86. August 1976 Buc Says:

    If Accuracy was actually teachable, there would be a lot better QB play throughout the decades in the NFL, let alone College. There is plenty of film on youtube and other places to see this. Overall accuracy has been downplayed for whatever reason by so many, but after watching J Freeman and Jameis, I realized it is the biggest factor in harnessing their ability as a QB to honestly succeed at a very high level consistently. Of course if you are throwing the ball to the other team a lot that just kills everything lol

    BTW I went to the site, where is the article, I would like to see it.

  87. DingleBerry Says:

    google is your friend sir.

  88. Bucs since 76 Says:

    Most QB that are accurate throw a football with a tight spiral. Like Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Manning. They also are able to hit receivers in stride thus in the case of Brees don’t need great arm strength. Trask has those same skills not saying he is the next Brady but sure worth a late second round pick to find out if he can be the Bucs next franchise QB. We have only had one franchise QB while playing for the Bucs that’s Tom Brady.

  89. August 1976 Buc Says:

    Hey Bucs since 76 I said to Dingle the first thing you look for is ACCURACY in a QB, then Decision making and Process and overall Mental toughness ….arm strength and athleticism is AFTER these traits.
    And Trask has more than enough Athleticism and Arm Strength for the NFL.

    This is just the raw facts about Trask.

    And like Dingle Stated, the Bucs have a great coaching staff. So Trask has every reason why he will do well. And the fact Brady is there being a QB Model to follow. Now If Trask ends up with off the field stuff, then all bets are off. But he has everything needed, the Talent and Intangibles to play at a high level for a long time in the NFL. With that said, we shall see what actually happens. The arrow is pointing up with Trask and the Bucs. GO BUCS!!!!

  90. BradyBucs Says:

    Trask has plenty of arm strength. Just watch his Pro Day on YouTube. He’s throwing those long out routes to the sideline with plenty of zip.

    I still say what I had posted before… Trask isn’t trying to throw it as hard as he can like some guys do. He’s throwing at about 80% in order to focus on accuracy. Similar to pro golfers’ tee shots and how they don’t swing 100% with their driver because they’d rather give up a little distance to be more accurate.

  91. geno711 Says:

    Trask couldn’t have asked for a better situation from not only an expectations standpoint but also a schematic one. The former Gator gets to learn how to operate from the pocket at a high level from the best ever to do it. Trask also gets to go to a Bruce Arians offense that is tailor-made for his strengths. The Florida product’s ability to throw with touch and attack downfield are some of his biggest strengths, and that’s what Arians’ offense requires.

  92. Hodad Says:

    Accuracy is more important then arm strength. Standing tall in the pocket delivering the ball on time with a defender ready to pound you is more important than being able to run. QB’s who can move are more likely to run rather then take that hit. Toughness mentally is better then being physically gifted. Just because a QB can run doesn’t mean he can hide in the NFL.

  93. BelleGladeBuc Says:

    Bruce Arians needs a QB that can read the field and deliver the ball to the open in the pocket.

    Jameis Winston was a mobile (Like Big Ben in his prime mobile, and not Mike Vick mobile) and big armed QB.

    He held on to the ball way to long extending plays. Sometimes good things happened from that, but a lot of times bad things happened.

    When Jameis was in the pocket making reads, sometimes good things happened, but a lot of times bad things happened.

    The Bucs team in Jameis last year was very talented, but because of those above flaws they were a losing ball team who didn’t make the playoffs, and Jameis QB play had ALOT to do with that.

    Jameis Winston’s college coach was Jimbo Fisher at FSU.

    Dingle, Kellen Mond’s college coach was Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M.

    I don’t think Bruce Arians is a fan of the the QB products that Jimbo Fisher produces and delivers to the NFL.

    As Ian Hunter sang, “Once bitten twice shy baby.”