Make Or Break
May 5th, 2021
Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians.
Of course it seems everybody has an opinion about the draft. That’s what makes the draft so much fun.
NFL teams have tons more player intel at their fingertips than fans or media will ever have.
Yet despite the insane amount of intel possessed by team shot-callers, the first round is at best a 60 percent hit rate. So fans at home watching the draft with a Big Storm beer in hand think they could pick just as well as a guy pulling seven figures sitting in a cozy NFL front office.
Again, it’s what makes the draft so much fun.
Well, respected long-time NFL scribe Dan Pompei of The Athletic spoke to several scouts he knows to get their evals on various players and teams. The scouts seemed drawn to Bucs second-round draft pick quarterback Kyle Trask. From what the scouts have to say , it seems Trask could be a very sneaky-good pick.
Scouts were intrigued by the Bucs’ selection of quarterback Kyle Trask with the last pick of the second round. One thought Trask could have gone about one round earlier. Another said he had Trask rated equally with Mac Jones, taken with the 15th pick in the first round by the Patriots.
While Trask fits Bruce Arians’ profile for a quarterback in the estimation of one evaluator, he said he does not see Trask as the next Tom Brady. “He doesn’t have the quick processing to get the ball out like Brady does,” he said. “At his pro day, everything he did was methodical.”
Trask sure has the traits coveted by Bucs Super Bowl-winning coach Bucco Bruce Arians: deep-ball accuracy and a gun for an arm.
The words from one scout Pompei quoted sort of concerns Joe. Yes, Trask fits the Arians profile. However, do we really believe Arians will still be around when Trask is ready to take over for park-violating, home-invading, NFLPA-ignoring, down-forgetting, handshake-stiffing, jet-ski-losing, biscuit-baking, tequila-shooting, smartphone-phobic, waffle-grilling, trophy-throwing, roller-coaster-scared, numbers-rules-peeved, Bucs-Super Bowl-winning quarterback Tom Brady?
Or are the gears already moving behind the scenes at One Buc Palace for offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich to take over when Arians decides he wants to play more golf in Georgia on fall weekends?
Though Joe leans towards Joe Tryon, it seems these scouts think it will be Trask who could make or break the 2021 Bucs draft class.
May 5th, 2021 at 10:07 am
Currently only mahommes has a chance to be the next tom brady as far as championships go!
And I wish him zero luck
May 5th, 2021 at 10:07 am
“gun for an arm” *crying laughing emoji*
A pop gun maybe.
May 5th, 2021 at 10:19 am
Squirt gun for an arm. I hope he shows me I’m wrong. Watching him throw, it just doesn’t look like an NFL release and velocity. You can’t picture him throwing sideline lasers in tight coverage. Maybe with work on mechanics and pro level training methods, they can quicken the release and generate more velocity. I hope so. I just don’t see it right in all the video I’ve seen.
May 5th, 2021 at 10:22 am
Yeah, @DingleBerry I was surprised to read that too. I thought the general thinking was that his arm strength was questionable, or worse?
May 5th, 2021 at 10:22 am
As you correctly imply, all draft pics are gambles. There has been many a first round draft pick bust over the years. Part of the fun is seeing if one’s ideas pan out during a season or two. Licht and his team have had a sterling record of drat evaluations recently and I would bet that their good record continues this year. That success supports the faith of all Bucs fans. Let’s hope that success rate from last year carries over. My bet is that it (mostly) will. Can’t wait for the pre-season tests.
May 5th, 2021 at 10:28 am
His Idol was Peyton manning and that’s who he said he models his game after. Loft and touch
May 5th, 2021 at 10:29 am
I hope that plans are going on behind the scenes for BL to take over after Arians retires. But if the Bucs win another SB, the question will be does BA retire. If not, Leftwich is likely going to be grabbed by another club. That would be a shame.
May 5th, 2021 at 10:32 am
Arm accuracy > Arm strength
ATM had a cannon, but what good did it do him because of his poor acvuracy?
May 5th, 2021 at 10:35 am
Casuals cruise Casual Draft Sites and come up with Casual assessmen faps.
May 5th, 2021 at 10:40 am
I didn’t like this pick but if they sign gabbert back like they are talking I really don’t get this pick at all if they didnt think trask could be qb2 what is the point of the pick especially when they said they considered drafting him in the first round like so you still want to sign gabbert? Wtf
May 5th, 2021 at 11:04 am
Entire staff is gone when new coach takes over. HORRIBLE PICK
May 5th, 2021 at 11:04 am
Ash … I agree. You picked the kid. Make the investment.
May 5th, 2021 at 11:13 am
I don’t know much about QB mechanics, but it seems to me that his arm position is low when he releases the ball. It will be interesting what he will look like with the coaches the bucs have. I think Arians sees the future of this team as his legacy, very similar to how the patriots were Parcells legacy. It would be amazing to see us set up to run for the next 10 years.
May 5th, 2021 at 11:23 am
Only time will tell
May 5th, 2021 at 11:36 am
Trask is not the next Tom Brady. I’ll give you that. But I will also say coming out of college Tom Brady was not the next “Tom Brady” either. Otherwise, he’d have been the first pick. Give this kid a chance. He has a helluva lot of potential. Let’s see what happens. PS. Love the pick.
May 5th, 2021 at 11:42 am
Anyone check Mahomes “arm position” when he throws? Arm position is less important than ball position at the receiver.
What do caduals think “he throws a catchable ball” means? Mega velocity, or a ball where it needs to be and easily mitted?
The number of balls that need to be drilled into a tiny window in the NFL is minimal, and usually means no other receiver was open…or the QB didn’t get through his progressions and missed the open receiver.
No play is designed to be drilled in a tiny, contested window.
Great QBing is between the ears, not the arm. If it was arm, ATM would be measured for a hold jacket, and Joe Montana would be a nobody.
I played with a guy who could throw the ball through goalposts 80 yards away. But the dude could barely read and write, much less read defenses. He knew nothing about “touch.”
May 5th, 2021 at 11:49 am
This is the first and only place I’ve ever seen saying Trask has a gun for an arm. Don’t think that’s the case but whatever. I’m not a fan of the the pick but I’m willing to give the coaches the benefit of the doubt that they could/might develop him, we’ll see. I’m not confident that he will be good, but he’s on the team so I’ll be pulling for him.
May 5th, 2021 at 12:22 pm
NashvilleBuc Says:
A lot of people say he has a weak arm including the moron DingleBerry.
Go and watch his pro day tape and judge for yourself. His arm strength is much better then everyone is being lead to believe!
May 5th, 2021 at 12:30 pm
Cobraboy,
Exactly! You are absolutely correct. The most important part of being a great QB is being able to throw it where you are looking. After that comes the intangibles. Leadership, processing info, work ethic, etc. However; none of those work if you aren’t able to throw it where you are looking! Good post!
May 5th, 2021 at 1:01 pm
Trent Dilfer had a cannon arm. Let that sink in…
May 5th, 2021 at 1:45 pm
Useless talking about it now. Assuming Tom plays two more years, and barring injury it’ll be the end of three years from now till we know what Trask can do. Of course there’ll be a whole lot of preseason, and hopefully mob up games, other wise let me know when 2025 gets here.
May 5th, 2021 at 2:09 pm
You guys are making things difficult for no reason. Trask will be fine; a Lil polish and he’s good.
May 5th, 2021 at 2:36 pm
non of us know how this guy will come out, the haters here are Gators haters… nothing to do with trask. This is just a pick, almost third round, people on that building, that get paid $$millions, thinking that the kid as potential becoming a good QB, and most important on this, is that TB12, did NOT disagree. You guys, FSU guys, think that all QBs drafted before him will be TB12???!!!, or last year draft , or before that….I can go back to JW #1, MM #2….ALL big BUSTs.
They drafted him because who he is like young man, like a character, his IQ, and then as QB, …. and they are hopping he is going to be developed to a fine player, NOT TB12. Is only one TB12, the GOAT, no comparison and no substitutions can be found…. and he is OURs… wow.. 😜
May 5th, 2021 at 4:47 pm
He definitely reminds me of a Brad Johnson type.
May 5th, 2021 at 5:53 pm
“He doesn’t have the quick processing like Brady does.” Since Brady has about 20 years more experience seeing every defense in the book, why would you expect him to?
May 6th, 2021 at 7:07 am
Cobraboy is right. Accuracy is more important than great arm strength.
I once saw a practice with Ryan Fitzpatrick and Christian Hackenberg.
Hackenberg had a canon of an arm. But couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn. He lasted about in 3 years in the NFL. Fitzpatrick is still playing after 15 + years.