Sign Of The Times

December 4th, 2020

Bucs offense, says former QB.

Interesting column by a former NFL quarterback.

David Carr, brother of Raiders quarterback Derek Carr and a former No. 1 overall draft pick himself before he got beaten to a pulp playing behind garbage offensive lines, thinks he knows what ails the Bucs’ offense.

It is too much vanilla ice cream.

Carr said the Bucs offense is as plain as it can get. And with the skill positions the Bucs have, so much more can be done to get receivers open than just lining them up and snapping the ball.

The first of several issues is this: Brady’s strengths are understanding coverages based on pre-snap looks, motions and alignments, but the Bucs are rarely motioning their running backs to give Brady a tell as to what the defense is doing, leading to poor decision-making and miscommunication. On top of that, I’m seeing a lot of vanilla NFL football where the Bucs are relying on their elite wide receivers (Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and Antonio Brown) to win, and that’s extremely hard to do in this league. I don’t care who you are. This offense will remain stagnant at times if there is no creativity.

Now Arians would say the Bucs are one of the league leaders in points. That’s correct, which suggests the offense is effective somewhat.

But could it be the offense is so simplified, that is why the Bucs struggle against good teams?

Also something in Carr’s column that really jumped out at Joe. He picked the best 15 offensive players at skill positions in the league.

The Bucs are loaded at the skill positions and you may argue the Bucs have as many as four future Hall of Fame players at the offensive skill positions.

Yet in Carr’s top-15, the Bucs have a grand total of none on Carr’s list. Big fat goose egg.

24 Responses to “Sign Of The Times”

  1. SB : Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Kyle Trask with a year under Brady!

  2. Bobby M. Says:

    A lot of arrows point to Leftwich being in over his head. He would have been good as an “OC” if Arians was the one calling the plays, but to run things on his own….he’s done nothing that correlates to winning games. The Chiefs dont have a great defense yet we go 3 & out….3 or 4 straight times? If teams truly run their best 15-20 plays at the start of the game……the Bucs must not have any.

    This team caught some teams off guard/outmatched to start the season but what we’re starting to see as a pattern is against good teams, we are being out coached. At this point we have to find ways to win….ugly…pretty…..just build momentum to make the playoffs. From there….a lot can happen.

  3. stpetebucsfan Says:


    I root for whichever Florida team has the best shot going into the post season.

    IE…I’m not a Nole or Gator just root for the state teams..wish USF would give me something to cheer about.

    But Trask has caught my eye as well. I haven’t seen a ton of his games. Are you a Gator fan who has seen him a lot or in person?

    I’m curious as to whether he’s the real deal.

    Clearly that could be a logical move…Trask to back up Brady for one or even two more years if Brady’s health and game demand it. Could end up being like a Bret Favre – Aaron Rodgers deal where Trask has to wait a couple of years.

    Since Lawrence is the clear #1 I guess it would also depend on how far Trask might slide. Top ten?

  4. Jean Lafitte Says:

    I still think the game planning against good teams has been terrible. It seems we go into these games with the mindset that we need to score fast and often. But with the endless amount of punts from so many 3 and outs we get behind.

    Run the ball and use the play action.

    Possession is a wonderful concept …Burn that clock

  5. John Sinclear Says:

    Sorry folks. Trask will not be on the board by the time the Buc’s make their first pick.

  6. SB : Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    @SPBF……..Yes I am a Gators fan and have seen every game he has played at least twice,
    Kid is a True success story when it comes to grinding it out. He hadn’t started a game since his freshman yr in H.S. when he came to the Gators. Was ranked like the 2,800th prospect by BSPN.
    Philepe Franks got hurt last yr and Trask got thrust into action. He never looked back.
    Since he took over the offense NO QB in America has put up more TDs to less INTs. 25 to 6 last yr in just 6 games. 34 to 3 in just 8 games this yr.
    Kid can read Defenses too. He is not just a big kid with a Live Arm. He is smart.
    Just think, ……The Gators lost their top 4 WRs last yr that are all playing in the NFL right now. He is doing this with a New cast.

    And yes I wish USF would give us more to cheer about too.

  7. SB Says:

    Test from phone

  8. SlyPirate Says:

    Bieniemy could fix the offense.

  9. TOM Says:

    The problem with Trask is I think OT is more important than Trask. Don’t forget Josh Rosen. I think he should be given an opportunity to replace TB at some point. Afterall he was a first rd. pick, so he must have something going for him. I don’t think he was ever given a real chance to succeed.

  10. Beeej Says:

    First down: Rojo off left guard, no room…1 yard
    Second down: Godwin in motion, (signals run) Rojo 2 MORE yards
    Third down: Blitz, Fournette drops hurried pass

  11. Gofortheface30 Says:

    It’s “possible” Trask Falls in to 20s where Bucs will be (face it they won’t be drafting 32nd.) I looooove Trask, but there are questions about his production being a result of Dan Mullen, and doesn’t quite have the gun/physical attributes of other quarterbacks rated higher, and even if Trask breaks all kinds of passing records he will not be grouped in with those 4 elite guys. After those 4 you have Mac Jones/Trask. Now, people are predictable. Anybody that watches SEC football are naturally gonna think Trask and Jones are the greatest players everrrrr, and scouts can be wrong. But generally those other 4 are rated higher for valid reasons. In any case, that’s a long winded way of kind of agreeing with you that if one of these Quarterbacks are available in the deepest quarterback class in a very long time – grab him. There may not be ANY quarterbacks available at all in 2022 when Brady is gone. Unless they have some tricks up their sleeve and they plan on signing Dak or Matthew Stafford

  12. Allbuccedup Says:

    I would love to have Trask also, but barring a complete collapse by the Bucs he more than likely won’t be available.

  13. JOe Says:

    Don’t forget Josh Rosen.

    Oh, am sure Bucs won’t. A bust who is fourth-string. If you forget he’s a bust, Bucs might just be dumb enough not to draft a quarterback.

  14. Runstuffer Says:

    Trask is going to be a bust because he doesn’t have the minimum amount of athleticism to play the quarterback position. Look at last two first round busts, Rosen and Haskins, both slow plodding quarterbacks who couldn’t survive because they couldn’t process the defense quick enough to get the ball out. Guys like Brady and Brees survive in the league with minimal athleticism because they have had time to learn and be able to process what they see. Trask lacks any elite traits and he won’t be able to escape and make a play with his feet or elite arm talent. He’s a very good college quarterback but he no longer fits the mold of what an NFL QB needs to be to play with the speed and complication of NFL defenses.

  15. SB Says:

    @ runstuffer you are more suited to watching synchronized Swimming then evaluating football

  16. gp Says:

    After trading away AB and Fournette in the off-season we should have the draft capitol to trade up a ways.
    Lots of ways to get the job done.

  17. Leighroy Says:

    Runstuffer needs to go watch some film, that’s a bogus take. Dude spun out of a sack last week, rolled right and threw a 20-yard dart for a 1st down that was the essential “runstuffer doesn’t know what he’s talking about” play of the game.

  18. Leighroy Says:

    gp, neither of those guys are under contract after this year…. so no. Plus, ask the jags how easy it was to trade fournette.

    This isn’t Madden 2021 folks!

  19. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Lol … Rosen must have blown Joe off… typing Joe is prickly when asked about the former 1 st round QB pick that only film in the NFL is behind crappy OL’s on a crappy team
    “ December 4th, 2020 at 12:03 pm
    Don’t forget Josh Rosen.

    Oh, am sure Bucs won’t. A bust who is fourth-string. If you forget he’s a bust, Bucs might just be dumb enough not to draft a quarterback.”

  20. Joe Says:

    Rosen must have blown Joe off… typing Joe is prickly when asked about the former 1 st round QB pick that only film in the NFL is behind crappy OL’s on a crappy team

    Stop. Joe Burrow has(d?) a garbage offensive line and he still got massive production. Both the Cardinals and Dolphins threw in the towel on Rosen and drafted quarterbacks *after* he played for each team for a full season, both teams eating millions of dollars to get rid of him.

    So this guy has become the next Phil Simms? Please!

    Dude is backing up Ryan Griffin. I mean, really!

  21. PSL Bob Says:

    Too vanilla? Damn, wish I’d thought of that.

  22. Defense Rules Says:

    “Carr said the Bucs offense is as plain as it can get.”

    We have a WINNER! And in today’s NFL, that spells MEH. Bucs’ coaches need to start earning their money and at least pretend to be somewhat creative.

  23. Joe Says:

    You win a Superbowl with a team not just a Quarterback

    Says the 1960s single-wing high school coach.

  24. unbelievable Says:

    This is the exact same thing I’ve been saying all season long!!!’

    – No creativity
    – No misdirection
    – we just line up and telegraph exactly what we’re gonna do, and rely on our skills positions players to outmuscle the defense.

    Clearly it’s not working.

    Someone should hire me and pay me millions per year. This ain’t hard.