Five Things

November 16th, 2020

What a wonderful Victory Monday. After a godawful week that started with one of the worst Bucs games in history, and then you throw in a dreary tropical storm and a nasty cleanup, man, did the clouds part and the sun blanket Tampa Bay yesterday? Grab your coffee and let’s hit it!

What a little nudging will do.

So last week after that pitiful Saints game, Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians took to his day-after presser forum and professed confusion about why star receiver Mike Evans was not targeted more.

Of course, Arians did not mention park-violating, home-invading, NFLPA-ignoring, down-forgetting, jet ski-losing Bucs quarterback Tom Brady by name. He didn’t have to.

Well, message sent. And received.

Yesterday, Brady targeted Evans 11 times. Those two may need extra work as Brady, missed Evans twice for touchdowns by overthrowing him. But still, is it a coincidence that Evans was targeted so often and the Bucs had their highest scoring output of the season?

With Evans getting targeted and furniture-tossing Antonio Brown getting more comfortable in the offense, you cannot tell Joe that didn’t help free up foot-rubbing, car-littering Rob Gronkowski and Chris Godwin.

(By the way, Godwin made one of the sickest catches of his career yesterday. After making his break near the right sideline, Godwin had to immediately adjust to a Brady fastball between two defenders. Godwin had maybe a split second to adjust and he came down with the ball. Damn, Godwin is going to become a very wealthy young man in free agency in a couple of months.)

When Evans is fully involved, this Bucs team is highly dangerous for all defenses.

Bounceback Brady.

So entering the game, Brady was 7-1 in his career in games after the Belicheats lost by 20 or more. As you can tell from those numbers, that happened once every third season or so. In other words, not much.

Make that 8-1. And yeah, Brady was hot as a firecracker, throwing for 341 yards and connecting on 29-of-38 passes. And Joe noticed Brady was moving around more than usual in the pocket.

Joe heard various highlight shows claiming Brady had so much time to throw. If that was the case, why was he bouncing around so much? Brady was sacked once and hit seven times. That doesn’t sound fantastic to Joe, but it sure was good enough.

This just demonstrated what Joe has been saying since training camp, that Brady is more mobile than what he showed in New England.

Props to Arians.

Major props to Arians and his staff. After the Saints Seal-Clubbing, Joe was very curious to see how they would pick themselves off the deck and rebound – at least as much as the players.

Well, Arians gets an A+. Good for Arians not being remotely satisfied with how the offensive line didn’t protect Brady last week, specifically the left side of the line.

Joe fully expected left tackle Donovan Smith to have a strong game. Whenever he drops a turd like he did against the Saints, Smith rebounds with solid games. That trend continued.

But well done on Arians for experimenting (?) with moving center Ryan Jensen to left guard to fill the void left by Ali Marpet still being in concussion protocol, and having A.Q. Shipley play center, benching Joe Haeg.

(Joe hopes now people know why hollering for Haeg to replace Smith for good at left tackle is not a wise option if you plan to make it to the playoffs.)

The Jensen/Shipley move worked wonders. Brady may not have had the best protection, but it was certainly good enough. Good job Bucs coaches: one for Arians benching Haeg and for getting Shipley and Jensen ready to rock.

Finally, RoJo.

Joe was hollering enough yesterday that the neighbors probably thought Joe sucked down his last Big Storm Brewing beer without stocking up before kickoff. When RoJo broke free to score the second-longest touchdown run in NFL history and set a Bucs record for longest offensive play from scrimmage, Joe was jumping up and down like draft night when Joe thought the Bucs were going to draft Cee Dee Lamb.

All Joe ever wanted for RoJo was to house a run very similar to what Leonard Fournette did against the Stinking Panthers in the first meeting of the season.

Joe is happy that RoJo, after previously looking like a full-blown bust of a running back, has become one of the better backs in the NFL. Still, RoJo was missing that signature run, that run to the house.

Boy, did he ever have one yesterday.

When RoJo produces, how can defenses stop this team unless the pass blocking suddenly goes to hell? You have to cover all of these weapons in the passing game and then try to hold back RoJo?

Keep it up, RoJo. Joe’s happy that you turned your career around from nothing to maybe a Pro Bowl (well, at least named to one — no Pro Bowl this year).

What a steal.

No, Joe isn’t forgetting about the defense. What a game Jason Pierre-Paul had yesterday? A pick and a sack and two quarterback hits and a tackle for a loss. That’s a full day.

JPP is a hustler. Given his Instagram rant about the plane fiasco on Saturday, Joe wouldn’t have been surprised if JPP read the riot act to his teammates that they dare not use the plane trip from hell resulting in no team meetings Saturday as an excuse not to be ready to play.

JPP has been the best thing to happen to this team in a long while. The guy is always busting tail. He always produces. He now has 7.5 sacks this season and in 36 games with the Bucs, JPP has 28.5 sacks. That’s pretty stinking good, especially since he cost Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht only a third-round pick.

That’s value.

Last Bucs thought.

Is kicker Ryan Succop, an expected free agent in 2021, a guy the Bucs need to place the highest priority on to retain this offseason? Remember, the Bucs kicking game had been a total joke for years until the Bucs signed Succop. Do Bucs fans really want to return to that circus?

TV analysis ranting.

There is an epidemic of stupidity in football broadcasts and Joe is guessing network producers (who are to football broadcasts what editors are to publications) either don’t give a crap or have a sneering disdain for their viewers/customers.

Yesterday, FOX Sports’ Moose Johnston had two of the dumbest comments Joe has heard in a while. First was when Mike Evans was grabbed in the end zone early in the game by Stinking Panthers corner Rasul Douglas. No flag. Evans couldn’t believe it. Neither could Joe.

Johnston crowed about the no-call and how it was good because Douglas was “holding his position.” WTH? You can’t just make up rules on the fly, Johnston! The only thing Douglas is allowed to hold is his unit. Where is it in the NFL rule book that a corner can wrap his arms around a receiver in the end zone while a pass is in midair headed his way — eight yards past the line of scrimmage?

Douglas grabbed Evans like he was his prom date in the back seat of her daddy’s Mustang. And Johnston thought this was good?

Johnston also kept repeating the tired narrative that Brady and the Bucs offense need time to gel because Brady is new. Hello, this is Week 10 and Brady’s been in the league 20 years!

Besides, how does Johnston explain rookie quarterbacks Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow doing so well? Is Johnston trying to say Herbert and Burrow had the same coaches and teammates in college as they do in the NFL?

To reinforce his point that Brady needs more time, Johnston tried to say last year Aaron Rodgers struggled all season with a new coaching staff in Green Bay. The Packers won 13 friggin’ games! Rodgers threw for 4,000 yards! All quarterbacks should struggle this badly.

And to wrap up about the sickness of stupidity of football broadcasts in the 21st century, is there a higher being that can order sideline reporters and game analysts to stop with the “limit turnovers” and “establish the run” nonsense as keys to a game? Is there an employed coach in America that wants turnovers?

(Saturday night was peak stupidity. For some reason ABC had Holly Rowe give her keys to the game while play was the Wisconsin-Michigan game was in progress. As Rowe offered that Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh wants to limit turnovers, over her shoulder in the background you could see Michigan quarterback Joe Milton throwing a pick. You cannot make this up! Then after halftime, Rowe told the world that she spoke to Harbaugh during the break and he wanted the Wolverines to cut down on turnovers in the second half. Who knew?)

31 Responses to “Five Things”

  1. TB55 Says:


    Surprised you didn’t write up an article about America’s Benchwarmer getting a shot last night.

  2. Pablo Says:

    If you go back to the game date thread I commented and said our running game is terrible when Leonard Fournette is the featured bag, all the angry posters passed me and think about Pablo is he knows best!!! Kudos to Arians for not benching RoJo like he did last time he had an early miss cue

  3. anderson Fa Gonzalez Says:

    that kevin minter sack being a 15 yard flag was one of the worst calls i have ever seen in my life

  4. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Loved the great effort from Brate diving for the first down marker on 3rd & long.

    AB actually looked good… game shape for sure.

    Good thing Pinion usually has a touchback because our kick coverage sucks mostly.A
    Another good day at stopping the run.

    Has anyone noticed that when you play the Bucs defense… lose an offensive player..

    Another terrible roughing the passer called on Minter.

  5. Rayjay1122 Says:

    Great Win. Now hopefully we can figure out how to show up under the lights Monday night. It will be a playoff type of game.

  6. PSL Bob Says:

    As long as you’re going of on the broadcasters Joe, did they even mention about the shift in the offensive line. I don’t recall hearing it. I remember Moose describing Jensen as having a mean or nasty attitude, but no mention that he usually plays center. I wasn’t plugged in yesterday morning, so I was unaware of the change. I had to pick it up myself while watching the game.

  7. Bobby M. Says:

    Rojo had a very good game….but how much longer are we going to discuss his confidence, maturity, fumbles, pass catching……He’s going to have to really pull it together to cement his role. He just seems like one big question mark every week. Mentally… seems like the coaches are having to constantly protect his psyche similar to Winston. Its year 3….he obviously has the talent but he’s got to put it all together this season.

  8. Jmarkbuc Says:

    I’m with you Joe on the Moose Johnston thing… especially the Aaron Rodgers/ LeFleur comment… I thought the same exact thing..13 wins!

  9. doolnutts Says:

    I loved the commitment to the run out of BA. After Rojo’s fumble I thought for sure we would make the mistake of benching him like we had done in previous games. Rojo’s ability has never been a question in my opinion, it’s his confidence that needs continued improvement. Either way I love the Rojo and Fournette one two punch.

  10. ocala Says:

    ROJO is a good NFL running back when he is running the ball. Unfortunately, he is awful in the passing game. He is probably a top 10 running back when running but he is probably the worst starting running back in the NFL in the passing game.

  11. reach87 Says:

    People “talk” about ROJO’s confidence but I’ve never “seen” a lack of confidence in him. Fans and the press are the ones continually bringing it up. I do think the coaches could squash that talk by simply responding with “he’s practicing and running pretty confidently…confidence is not a problem.” Anyone see how he has been hitting holes and running over/thru defenders this year? Look like a confidence problem? Give him the ball more. Go Bucs!

  12. Rob Tanner Says:

    Can Shipley play OT? That is if we for some reason need someone for Donovan Smith‘s place?

  13. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Great rant Joe! As a former broadcaster mea culpa I’m sure I did it myself.

    It happens in every sport from NASCAR to Hockey…and in fact it’s everywhere…the hyperbole and simplistic, obvious views from political pundits on BOTH sides is similar to the reporting of the OBVIOUS you’re pointing out.

    In fact behind the scenes I remember gathering with other anchors and beat reporters for drinks around the Conference “Press Days”. We all took turns trying to see who could be more obvious and repetitive and redundant.

    So Joe we were actually practicing that bad reporting. LMAO

  14. stpetebucsfan Says:

    BTW We took turns by imitating the Coaches annual preseason prognositications.

    If we have more points than the other team when the guns sounds we win.

  15. SufferingSince76 Says:

    On Rojo’s run, it looked to me like Smith was beaten again but luckily Rojo was already gone.

  16. David Smith Says:

    If only BA would stop giving so many fatties to Fournette! Jones has come into his own as a runner and is more decisive and powerful. He has more lateral movement and make em miss ability. If you want a catching rb then have both of them in so you don’t show your hand so much. Though he’s not as good of a catcher RoJo has proven he can catch.

  17. Joe Says:

    BTW We took turns by imitating the Coaches annual preseason prognositications.

    “We have two quarterbacks.@

  18. 813bucboi Says:

    Special Teams has to step up…kick off and punt unit has been lacking…

    GO BUCS!!!!

  19. SB Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Joe to pile on about Horrible announcing, did you watch the Saints game?
    Stupid announcer at Least three times referred to Drew Brees as a 43 yr old qb!

    I Can’t Believe those guys can sit up there and get PAID to sound so stupid!!!

    Also totally agree with you on the non PI call in the Endzone. Dude had Both of Mike’s arms wrapped!! I was beside myself. I would have chugged a Big Storm out of anger if they sold them here. 🙂

  20. orlbucfan Says:

    Agree about the yahoo tv sports talking heads. Glad I’m a diehard Bucs radio fan. 😊🏈

  21. Brandon Bob Says:

    Don’t forget about the constant irritating chatter about third downs being important to both teams. Duh… I had to mute the sound for much of the game, smh. Go Bucs!

  22. Joe Says:

    Also totally agree with you on the non PI call in the Endzone. Dude had Both of Mike’s arms wrapped!! I was beside myself. I would have chugged a Big Storm out of anger if they sold them here.


  23. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    I still don’t understand why Joe wanted us to draft ceedee lamb so much.

    WR was not a hole for us. Right tackle was Wirfs had no business sliding that far and there he was.

  24. Joe Says:

    WR was not a hole for us.

    Sometimes a player is too good to pass up. For example, how many teams in 1983 passed on Dan Marino as he plummeted in the draft saying to themselves, “Nah, we’re good.”

    Plus, Lamb is right up Arians’ alley about throwing deep.

    (FYI, the Bucs did draft a WR and later signed Antonio Brown).

  25. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Yeah but Tristan Wirfs is what you are describing as being a player that was also too good to pass on.

    Plus that draft was so stacked with WRs it was a smart move to take one later

  26. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Usually I don’t praise this team for being this smart. They drafted very well this last draft.

  27. Joe Says:

    Fans and the press are the ones continually bringing it up.

    It’s not an invention. It’s very real. Bucs had to rewire RoJo mentally. This is not empty talk, the Bucs spent a lot of effort working personally with RoJo. All but had a personal assistant coach/shrink. Not going to say who, but the Bucs had an assistant who was given the primary task when hired to rebuild RoJo’s head (not unlike when Dirk Koetter hired Todd Monken he told Monken, “fix Mike Evans.”)

    All of that effort working with RoJo appears to have paid off.

  28. Dapostman Says:

    The next two games will tell us where this team is headed. You are supposed to spank a 3-6 team when you consider yourself a title challenging team.

    Lose both and you aren’t a championship team.
    Split and maybe you are.
    Win both and you definitely are.

  29. Joe Says:

    did they even mention about the shift in the offensive line.

    Briefly when setting up the starting Bucs offense very early in the game.

  30. Buczilla Says:

    Good stuff Joe’s. Johnston and the other clown seemed biased against us the entire game.

  31. Stonedbuc Says:

    Hey joe, can we not use high school kids having sex as a point of reference. Weirdo.