Disciplined Football

October 18th, 2020

Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians.

Yes, disciplined football is not making dumb mistakes that even grade schools kids know better than to make.

You know, like false starts, offsides, face masks and the ever-popular going full-blown Koko B. Ware and headbutting dudes wearing a different color jersey.

You can also add the art of catching the ball to the category of discipline.

As Joe has stated previously, drop stats are not an official NFL stat. Several sites track drops but it is very subjective and the data is all over the map.

For example, the encyclopedia of NFL stats, Pro Football Reference, has drop stats. They show the Bucs with 13, which ranks second-worst in the NFL. Pro Football Reference may be the most credible site for NFL research and information. It’s Joe’s go-to source.

A guy out of Indiana runs a Twitter feed called “@NFL_Stats” that is pretty reliable though his sources are unclear. But ESPN, Bleacher Report and Yahoo! have each used his information in stories, and so has Joe. The Twitter feed has dropped stats via quarterbacks who have had the most passes dropped. There, Bucs top the league with 17.

From 13 to 17 is a wide margin and a great example of the subjectivity of drops.

Last week, Bucco Bruce Arians scoffed at the websites that track drops and claim the Bucs only had one game with a rash of dropsies.

It would help against a strong opponent like the Packers today if the Bucs were able to haul in passes rather than letting the ball hit the turf.

That’s discipline, too.

13 Responses to “Disciplined Football”

  1. Buczilla Says:

    I love me some pro football reference. Cool article and this team is just oozing a lack of discipline. Gotta get it straight, before it’s too late Arians.

  2. BucEmUp Says:

    Wr drops and wrong routes are not the wr fault….they aee always the qbs fault.Just ask Jamies

  3. Casual Observer Says:

    Although I am prejudiced by being a “glass is half full” person, I think the Bucs will put it together today. And show good discipline.

  4. Lamarcus Says:

    Years prior they blamed JW inaccurate passes. Now on the money and dropping more

  5. Defense Rules Says:

    Agree that PFR is the go-to site for stats Joe, and also that dropped passes is highly subjective. Frankly I’m not even sure how any site would classify a pass as either a drop (on the receiver) or just a bad pass (on the QB).

    Also seems like those teams who dink-and-dunk short passes all day long SHOULD have a lower % of dropped passes. I noticed that Derek Carr is way down your list, and that Drew Brees isn’t even on the list. Neither is Lamar Jackson. So are QBs like Brady & Ryan being ‘penalized’ because of the type of passing offense they run?

  6. Swampbuc Says:

    Most of those drops are running back drops.

  7. Kobe Faker Says:

    “Look at those eyes

    The eyes are the window to the soul

    Those eyes are saying

    The Buc Realist might be right”

    Kobe Faker

  8. SufferingSince76 Says:

    Winston is gone. Be a man and deal with it.

  9. Howard Cosell Says:

    LOL Jimmy Johnson just called the Bucs “An undisciplined team”…A.wesome!
    Furthermore he said the Bucs only hope for discipline is Tom Brady.
    Nice to be relevant for a couple of months though!

    Howard thinks the Glazers made all these great moves this year pnly for a possible home superbowl and nothing more. Next year it will be back to business as usual (6-10)

  10. JameisAlmighty Says:

    Arians and Brady. 2 short term hires for Licht to keep his job.

  11. Howard Cosell Says:

    Lazy brats don’t want to lose Licht, then they’d have to work!

  12. Roy T. Buford Says:

    Jimmy Johnson really blasted the Bucs for being good, save for penalties and lack of discipline–which can really decimate their season. And of course, he said Brady can fix that. We’ll see today. I am all positive…they can.

    Here ya go:

    I remember in 2011, sitting in the RayJay, when Rah was our coach. I was exhausted from yelling and screaming and it was HOT outside. It was a GREAT game as the Bucs had just beaten the Saints, and we were now 4-2. 4-2! And I, along with a few others, got a shower nearby, our bags were taken, and we headed to England that night…a week to prep for a game against Lovie Smith’s Bears. 4-2 baby, and week to acclimate, and I had a great time, I’ll tell you that. We (they really) were invinciible. Then the game started. I flew over with the Bucs, and home on a different plane per the plan, but I’ll never forget how quickly it went south. In fact, the Bucs lost out the whole season. Rah was fired, and Lovie came to us two years later to beat that losing record with 2-14. Wow. To borrow from the great Forrest Gump, “Being a Bucs Fan is HARD.”


    THIS IS NOT 2011! Go Bucs!

  13. ©MadMax Says:

    For the record, if we didnt land rb Clyde in the 2nd, I was hoping for Chase Claypool…was promoting him here a lot…I knew he was going to be great. But dont get me wrong, I know we needed a safety and Im very happy with Winfield. Just remembering how much of a Claypool fan I was.