“It Is Jacksonville With Better Gentleman’s Clubs”

April 11th, 2020
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Boston reacts.

The Boston beanheads are up in arms.

When it was learned on St. Patrick’s Day that Tom Brady was leaving the Belicheats, (Joe cannot take credit for the following but also cannot remember where he heard this one-liner), the reaction in Boston was like a child finding out Santa Claus died on Christmas.

You’ve seen how potty-mouth Vipers (RIP) fan and Boston sports apologist Katie Nolan reacted.

Dan Shaughnessy, long-time scribe of the Boston Globe, made an appearance on the “Jim Rome Show” to discuss Tom Brady coming to the Bucs.

In recent columns, Shaughnessy has made the case that the reason Brady signed with the Bucs is that Brady had no other options. Additionally, Shaughnessy noted no one who has another path would willingly play for the Bucs.

Everybody knows that nobody goes to Tampa if they have other options.

With all due respect to my good pal Wade Boggs, Tampa is the worst. It is professional sports Siberia. It is Jacksonville with better gentleman’s clubs.

Seriously. The Buccaneers are the losingest franchise in American major league sports. They have a lower lifetime winning percentage (.387) than any team in the NFL, NBA, NHL, or Major League Baseball. They define “losing culture.”

Now Joe is not going to bag on Shaughnessy. Joe has known the guy for decades and he did Joe a couple of big favors years ago that Joe will never forget. Shaughnessy is a class act. The column is a standard hit ’em low piece that papers do from time to time when they find their community on the short end of a stick (you usually see these columns when a local team is in a championship game).

It’s harmless, if not amusing.

(To be fair, Joe cannot provide a first-hand review of the clothing-optional establishments on either coast but will take Shaughnessy’s word for it.)

Shaughnessy claims because the Titans (boy, Joe would love to use the abbreviated word for Titans like how we refer to the Jaguars as the “Jags”) preferred Ryan Tannehill over Brady, and John Lynch and the 49ers turned their noses up on Brady, that his only suitor was Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians.

Anyway, you can listen to Shaughnessy with Rome in the CBS video below.

59 Responses to ““It Is Jacksonville With Better Gentleman’s Clubs””

  1. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    The guy is a geography moron because jville is a dump but he is correct on people from the outside viewing both the bucs & rays: losing and terrible play and low fan turnout and with the Rays very low money spent while playing in a warehouse.

  2. Razor Ramone Says:

    The Lightning has been voted the top professional sports franchise in North America. So there’s that.

  3. Kwame Richardson Says:

    I’m a Bucs fan but I don’t reside in Tampa. Hearing that reporter talk about Tampa was pure hatred. If you had a choice of places to live, whose choosing Massachusetts over Florida? Go Bucs and f*ck Boston.

  4. Buddy Says:

    Tampa is a great “B” city. Not a “A” city. Not too small not too large. Great mid size city. Media that isn’t to harsh like real big citiy media hacks such as the Boston’s, nyc’s, la’s, or Chicago’s. Tampa’s beach’s, restaurants and way of life are far superior to Jville’s. Hopefully Tb12’s 2 years here are exiting and successful. Cause if not then Old man Bruce and Jason Gump gotta go!! Since Tom is in charge.

  5. JGhotier Says:

    As a native Floridian who has lived both Tampa and Jacksonville, Tampa is nothing like Jacksonville (besides both being by bodies of water, an ocean and being cities in Florida). Tampa is miles better than Jax. It’s not even close or comparable.

    This is silly!

  6. Youngbucs Says:

    Yea yea we gon see how much the pats win this season??

  7. deminion Says:

    I live in Jville lol it sucks but you get used to it lol

  8. Youngbucs Says:

    What he should be writing about is why his coach/GM is in a bad cap situation with a horrible roster but what do I know

  9. Cobraboy Says:

    If you put ice on butthurt, does the pain go away?

    Maybe the “class act” Shaughnessy can tell us how that works out…

  10. SOEbuc Says:

    How about the Lightning for the past decaade? Bolts produce most money in the NHL because of all our true fans. Get a clue nationalist.

  11. lowercaseg Says:

    dude is a dweeb and pees sitting down.

  12. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Yea…..Tampa is just like Boston except for:

    The Sun
    No State Income Taxes
    Cuban Sandwiches

    And, Now….Tom Brady

    Too Bad, So Sad!!!

  13. Ghost of Darrell Henderson Says:

    I’ve lived in Bristol, Ct, Cape Cod, Massachusetts, Orlando, FL, Oregon and Tampa Bay.

    I prefer living in this area much more than the others.

    Obviously, I like the Bucs better than New England. When I grew up in New England, I was actually a Dallas Cowboys fan. Half of the people who live in Connecticut like the New York teams.

  14. Ghost of Darrell Henderson Says:

    The oddest thing is that a lot of people in Oregon are Red Sox fans.

  15. JGhotier Says:

    @ lowercaseg

    I pee sitting down when I’m going number 2. Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt :p

    As far as his statements and Jax/Tampa comparisons, it is beyond silly and the guy apparently has no clue re: this topic.

  16. 2020 Year of the GOAT Says:

    thats what u call a masshole………..

  17. JGhotier Says:

    …or benefit of the dump ** (in this case)

  18. 2020 Year of the GOAT Says:

    if tb 12 cant get us into the playoffs ….no one can…….

  19. SOEbuc Says:

    I was talking sports references, but for living purposes, I’d rather live in the sunshine state with good gentleman’s club’s than than breaking bones falling through sludge.

  20. passthebuc Says:

    Oh, yes. Boston the pinnacle of baseball prowess that went 100 years without a world series win. And, Boston, whom before Brady and Bill Belichick were a non-entity. Your not quite the Yankees.

  21. Steven007 Says:

    He’s trolling. This smacks of recentism, nothing more. the Pats were closer to a doormat than super bowl winners when I was growing up. They won’t be a doormat this year, but they may be closer to that than super bowl winners. We’ll all know soon enough what the difference was.

  22. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Their owner likes the East Coast of Florida better……..just “going down” just south of Jax…….

  23. Old Sombrero Says:

    I grew up in St.Pete/Tampa and I live in Jax now. Jax Beach is a ghetto. The NW side of town is a war zone comparable to Chicago in terms of gun violence. Hobos dominate the downtown riverfront. Biking and running is a death sentence as it’s not a pedestrian friendly are and there are no designated paved biking or running trails. If it wasn’t for my career I would leave tomorrow and return to the Tampa Bay Area.

  24. Rob in Land O Lakes Says:


    TBBF said: “Their owner likes the East Coast of Florida better……..just “going down” just south of Jax…….”

  25. AJ Says:

    The epitome of why everything Boston sucks! The crybaby teams with the biggest sports budgets. And yet it is always the Tampa teams that give em fits. Suck it Chia pet head…

  26. Rob in Land O Lakes Says:

    Hey Dan, part of the reason that the sports culture is a problem here is that nearly every out of work, uneducated POS from New England moves here to file for disability, smoke weed and occasionally mow a lawn. Fortunately, they keep me employed because they make up about 50% of the people I send to prison.

    No one moves to the Northeast because if you are not making an incredible amount of money, IT SUCKS TO LIVE THERE!

  27. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Sad that we ALL violate a basic precept of life. You do not make your own furniture look better by chopping up your neighbors.

    It’s a game we all play. At a Lightning Flyer game I was stuck next to some New Port Richey moron…is that redundant…see how I did that…I don’t make St Pete look any better by putting down NPR. He had only lived in NPR for five years so he felt the need to keep his Flyer fan card.

    He’s ranking on the Lightning..a bad team at the time..as his Flyers built a multi goal lead in a contest that was never in doubt. As he gloated I said…OK dude..I give you scoreboard on the rink…but as far as cities you gotta give us scoreboard. Who the hell wants to live in Philadelphia? Why do all you mouthbreathers come here to drink our water…add to our traffic..and root against our sports teams. There is no mass exodus to stinking Philadelphia this is a one way stream of people FLEEING the hell hole of Philadelphia.

    Dude stands up to throw down with me..but when I stood up..three other guys next to us also stood…Philly “man” sat back down and STFU.

    I slur Jax as being nothing more that Southern Georgia…the same way I slur our panhandle as Floribama. I get double my insults by slandering GA and AL.

    At the end of the day though I realize that’s MY own hatred/prejudice shining through. It’s reflective of ME not the people or area I denigrate.

    So MEA CULPA! I’m not a racist but I am definitely a victim of prejudice generated by my experience over 72 years. So when I hear a pronounced Southern Accent like the Governor of GA I tend to think…uh oh…dim bulb.
    Same as when I hear Ebonics. One is white…the other black but in my heart I realize it’s still prejudice on my part.

    My only redeeming value is I’m working very hard to eliminate these prejudices….like enjoying the term “Masshole”.

    In a poll of OUR collective experience from Bucs, Rays and Lightning games how do we rank fans as being arseholes…sick game for sure but my experience is that Massholes and Philly fan tie..with Yankee fan close behind.

  28. Snook Says:

    Wow. Bitter much?

  29. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Shaughnessy seems to have omitted at least ONE team that did want Brady.

    The New England Patriots!!! So if we are Jax with better mens clubs what does that make Boston?

  30. JimmyJack Says:

    Sounds like Boston forgot what it was like when all their teams were pitiful. Like it was when I was a kid.

    Good news is they are headed back there. Patriots are trending down hill and the red socks look like they are gonna struggle.

    And crap like this is why other cities love to see places like Boston struggle. I will take literal joy in it.

  31. Alanbucsfan Says:

    Bucs didn’t take 85 years to win a championship, Red Sox fan

  32. Anthony Dickson Says:

    The reason the Bucs are the “losingest” franchise in sports history has nothing to do with geographical location, it’s because the previous owner(Hugh Culverhouse) was so cheap it was said that he wouldn’t spend a dime to make a dollar.

  33. DannyDimes Says:

    boston rocks

  34. The Monk Says:

    I grew up in Boston before the Patriots were there and the “home team” on TV were the NY Giants. I followed them for years because the Patriots were pathetic and cheap for years.
    I moved to Tampa Bay 22 years ago and found it way better than Baaaaston.
    Gimmee Siesta Key or Clearwater Beach way over Cape Snob…go Bucs!

  35. Mike Johnson Says:

    He’s spot on. I was born and raised in Tampa. No longer live here but I will always luv the TB area. We are one if not the Losingnist team in the NFL Maybe in all of sports history. I can see why everybody thinks Brady will be the savior. He won’t be but I get it. And we also have some great strip..I mean Gentlemens clubs. I’m not mad at him at all for sayin what he said. This Football franchise has been riddled and raped over and over again with countless mistakes. I do hope Brady will not be one of them. If he can stay healthy and that’s a big If..we have a 2yr window with the guy. That’s about all.

  36. Buczilla Says:

    Just another Northeastern blowhard who’s opinion is less than useless to me. He has 0 relevance to me or my teams so he can eat it. If I’m being objective (hard to be when dealing with pompous morons like Shaughnessy), I’d be pi$$ed too if my team let the best football player in history walk out of the door.

    He’s right about the Bucs being a horrific franchise for most of their existence, but it’s still my team and I will defend them even if I am in the wrong. If he had any class he wouldn’t go pi$$ in his neighbors garden just because his dog passed away.

  37. Greg Says:

    Until the early 2000’s the most descriptive word for Boston sports fans was “beleaguered”….they had the Celtics with loads of titles and that was kinda it. Then the Patriots dynasty began, the Red Sox won, the Celtics were revitalized and the Bruins won. Quite a good sporting run over the last 20 years.

    The Bucs might have the lowest winning percentage in all of sports but at least they have a Super Bowl. That’s more than the Vikings or Bills or a few dozen other major “sports franchises without a title” can claim.

  38. JA Says:

    Nothing like insulting an NFL geographic location to ruffle a few local feathers to make up for the absence of sporting matches.
    Gotta give Shaughnessy credit. It worked.
    Now he is ripe to insult 30+ more cities and get his name mentioned more than ever before.

  39. Formerly Tampa 2 Says:

    1st we had Culverhouse, who was cheaper than a Nebreska hooker. Then came Malcolm Glazer, who did build the team and we won the SB. But then came the Glazer boys, who made Culverhouse look like a free spender by cutting off all funds for the Bucs so they could buy and ruin a soccer team in England. So the bucs do have the losing-est record in pro sports. However, having been in both Tampa & Jax there is no comparison between the 2. Jax sucks. But I notice that the guy didn’t mention Boston, or the combat zone in Boston, or that you have to take a bank loan out each year just to pay property tax if you can even afford a home up there. In fact, Boston is known as taxechusetts And known for Whitey Bulger and the Irish Mafia. (to which Whitey was a rat that installed bugs for the FBI in NY). So Boston and that writer can suck down some drinks and consider their City for the dump that it is.

  40. '79 Defense Says:

    I did the calculations. If the Bucs go 16-0 this year that will raise them from .387 to .400 –and put them ahead of the Minnesota in the NBA who is next above us at .398.

  41. Wesley Says:

    Dude is ignorant, that’s all.

  42. Ndog Says:

    If you listen to the interview he actually is talking about the franchise not the city. He is basically saying no one wanted Brady accept for the worst franchise in the history of professional sports. Technically speaking he is correct as much as it sucks to hear.

  43. lars tater salad Says:

    he has really become the east coast version of Skip Bayless

  44. cmurda Says:

    1 Super Bowl win is still better than 12 other NFL teams. Record shmecord. Who the eff got a trophy!

  45. Mike Johnson Says:

    formerly Tampa 2..You are spot on about Boston. I did a 2 yr stint at Ft Devens in the late 70’s. Went over to the Combat..I mean Boston zone quite a few times.Combat Zone was thriving back then. But parts of Boston are like 3rd world countires. And the cost of living is high. Kinda racist there too. Now them Nebraska hookers…

  46. Anonymous Says:

    So if he wins here, don’t you think this burnishes his reputation? Isnt that a challenge?

  47. Joseph Mamma Says:

    Seriously. The Buccaneers are the losingest franchise in American major league sports. They have a lower lifetime winning percentage (.387) than any team in the NFL, NBA, NHL, or Major League Baseball. They define “losing culture.”


    We are the best at something at least: losing.

    With a sport with a salary cap for that last 25 years, I’d say that is damn impressive.

  48. Rod Munch Says:


    Go f yourself you bean eating maggot.

  49. westernbuc Says:

    Tampa hasn’t had any problem attracting free agents over the years. Now, maybe they come here because they’re fine with losing, but it’s not like Tampa is the option they have.

    The thing about SF is that they have a young Jimmy G. He still has a high ceiling. They’d have to trade him to make room for Brady, and I don’t think there’s a trade market for him. Cam and Jameis are still on the market, Andy Dalton hasn’t been traded even the Bengals want to move on from him. The QB market is too crowded, I doubt Lynch could trade Jimmy G even if he wanted to.

    As for the Titans, who knows if Brady wanted to go there? Brady made a list of things he wanted for his next team, including coaches and players, then prioritized them. He wanted to get away from the Patriots, and Mike Vrabel is a Patriot. Not to mention, they don’t have the weapons we have. I wouldn’t assume the titans were even on the list

  50. Howard Cosell Says:

    Everybody knows that nobody goes to Tampa if they have other options.

    With all due respect to my good pal Wade Boggs, Tampa is the worst. It is professional sports Siberia. It is Jacksonville with better gentleman’s clubs.

    Seriously. The Buccaneers are the losingest franchise in American major league sports. They have a lower lifetime winning percentage (.387) than any team in the NFL, NBA, NHL, or Major League Baseball. They define “losing culture.”

    LOL……truth hurts…..unless you’re the Glazers…..or Boss Hogg Culverhouse…….then you just don’t care that much LOL

  51. Howard Cosell Says:

    That quote ^ should be framed and placed behind the Glazers desk(s)

  52. Howard Cosell Says:

    And, more then likely, Brady is past his prime and just another cheap promotional stunt by Scheme Glazer.
    Honestly….Hoody doesn’t let good players walk.. He just doesn’t.

    Look for the usual pre-season delusions of grandeur, followed by a
    fast start, followed by a collapse and ending in 7 – 9

  53. stpetebucsfan Says:

    “Technically speaking he is correct as much as it sucks to hear.”

    Technically speaking NDOG you are clueless as you like to call us. The Pats wanted him…they did not want to offer two years.

    Brady and BB the LOSING HC before Brady got in a whizzing contest and BB was the one who came out drenched.

    So NDOG….which team is it that wants “blameless”?

  54. WestChap Says:

    Nothing classy about knocking TB for taking a great QB your team no longer wanted. For a spoiled Boston sports fan (Pats, Celtics, Red Sox, Bruins) its even less classy to poke at others.

  55. Rob Tanner Says:

    Meet the new Patriot QB, same as the old Patriot QB. Tom Brady isn’t going anywhere. Take it from the guy who told you Pablo Sandoval would be a big hit in Boston.


  56. BringBucsBack Says:

    How convenient! When Tom was a Belacheat, two short months ago, he was the reincarnation of the Christ; walked on water & was the unquestioned GOAT. Now that Brady is here he can no longer throw the deep ball and my favorite; “…the Pats did more things to help him…”. Yea, because the people on the sidelines always effect the game more than the actual players on it!?

    Massholes, just be appreciative of the 20 YEARS of greatness you got and give thanks as you slip back to ineptitude and become the “Lovable Losers” you WERE before the greatest QB in history fell out of the sky & landed on your cold, overpopulated, filthy, crime-ridden city.

  57. Ed Says:

    I live here and for many years have spent a lot of time in Jacksonville. The city is unique, because of the giant St Johns River and all of the estuaries the geographical nature of the place is split into multiple regions.

    The Southside is very nice and the homes on the St Johns River are beautiful. The Northside from downtown to the airport isn’t nice at all. The EastSide is also not so great but there are some very cool places like San Marco and Riverside.

    It just depends where you live there but overall the Tampa Bay region is more like a Florida City with lots of transplants. Jacksonville has a Southern Georgia feel too it. Older too

  58. chris L Says:

    screw them all. let’s go tampa!

  59. garroman Says:

    Joe… Can you please stop putting links up to disreputable web sites/sources. I don’t want to give these people any clicks. Please …if there are any true journalists left… Try to focus on those.