“I’m Going To Miss Being A Starting Quarterback”

April 29th, 2020

UPDATED 11:37 a.m. – America’s Backup Quarterback, Jameis Winston, opened up a bit yesterday about his relocation to the New Orleans Saints.

He quoted a proverb about humility and shared how excited he is to learn from Drew Brees and the Saints’ accomplished coaches.

“I wanted to put my ego aside, put the money to the side and think about my family, think about my career,” Jameis told former Florida State QB Charlie Ward of accepting his new role.

“It was no better position that to be in the same room with someone that I really looked up to, someone that I admired since I’ve been playing this game in Drew Brees. Just understanding where I’m at in my career. I’ve done some great things with the Bucs. I’m going to miss being a starting quarterback, but you never know what happens.”

It felt like Jameis made it clear that he’s eager to do what Teddy Bridgewater accomplished in New Orleans. Learn a lot while raising his QB stock in NFL circles.

Bridgewater, however, caught a break last year. Brees missed five games and the Saints didn’t lose any of them.

If Jameis goes through the 2020 season without seeing meaningful snaps, Joe’s not sure how much of an impact that will have on his career. But it would put the Saints in a great position to give Jameis a shot in 2021 if Brees retires. That certainly could boost the Bucs’ interception totals.

215 Responses to ““I’m Going To Miss Being A Starting Quarterback””

  1. 123Urout Says:

    get use to it.

  2. El Buco Realisto Says:

    It is just another example of proof how bad the roster was/is,,,, and the sheep said it was coaching!!!!!!!!! How wrong they were and still are!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It’s time to herd the sheep and put them back in the pen!!!!!!!!!!!!

    go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Buc50 Says:

    Jameis has a lot of talent. If he can get the turnovers under control, he will be a great pickup for somebody…hopefully not in our division.

  4. Marine Buc Says:

    So we are supposed to believe Winston turned down a “lucrative offer” to play for $1 million?

    The Steelers just publicly stated they did not offer Winston a contract. So what team made this “lucrative” offer? Lol.

    I believe Winston didn’t turn down anything. He took the only offer available and he was lucky to get $1 million.

  5. jmarkbuc Says:

    ” I wanted to put the money aside” BS, nobody else offered any.

    Good Luck JW.

  6. Don_RyJo(e) Says:

    I harbor no ill will towards Jameis. If his career rebounded, and I think that’s possible, I’ll be happy for him. But I agree with the decision to jettison him; he needs a change of scenery and some time on the bench to really reevaluate his decision-making. If he had stayed here in Tampa, I’m sure he would have continued throwing interception after interception.

  7. DBS Says:

    Clean House left to follow you. Please pick up the phone and call the rest of your tribe to follow so we can move on with our season in peace!!

  8. Adrnagy Says:

    What we need is a good HC.
    Like tomlin. Bill. Andy. Frank, Pete not the dirk, two face , Raheem, shiano , smitty

  9. Adrnagy Says:

    That will develop and release players quick not play around with the what if’s !

  10. ToesOnTheLine!!! Says:

    Laughed at Joe’s last sentence on the interceptions! 🙂 Jameis is saying all the right things, but how much more will Brees and Payton teach him than he would have learned sitting behind the GOAT and Arians? It’s an ego thing IMO…he thought he was ballin’ and worth $30M+ a year, but the Bucs (and 31 other NFL teams) disagreed. I think he’s cutting his nose to spite his face trying to give the Bucs a F-U when he could have gone elsewhere and had a better shot of seeing play time this year. You typically don’t raise your perceived worth as a starting QB by not being on the field on game day. I wish him well though, even if I think it’s probably a poor decision on his part.

  11. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    This guy just can’t STFU!

  12. FactTeller Says:

    He’s gonna be the 2021 Teddy. You don’t throw for 5K and fall off Cliff.

    One another note does anyone know if we will get a Comp pick for him next year since we technically did loose a free Agent?

  13. Buddhaboy19 Says:

    Hey honestly, I wish Jameis the best. How many coaches did he have in his 5 years? There was no consistency during his tenure, and the results showed.

    Not making excuses, at all, but I hope he comes out on top. Somewhere this seaason, a good team is going to lose a starting QB, and teams might think Jameis can come in and win some games. Like a Ryan Tannehill, Tom Brady, Dak Prescott, and the Patriots. WHo are the Pats going with QB? I thought for sure they were going to pull the trigger on Jameis or Cam.

  14. Buc1987 Says:

    He might get his shot in N.O.

    Brees has been rumoring retirement for the past couple years.

    Plus Brees is old and we’ve been told old QB’s won’t last long. j/k

  15. Buddhaboy19 Says:

    Yeah, Brady is old too, and we’ve got that sorry azz ex Jags QB for backup.

  16. Jeebs the Honey Bear Says:

    Ego aside lol. His comment about “money aside” proves he’s very concerned about his ego. He wants to sell us that he had other offers for more money on the table…. Yeah right. No one wanted this loser

  17. Bucsfan333 Says:

    Famous Jameis will live on to make the Bucs front office look like the fools they are. How many of our picks have been retained now from previous years? We have traded youth for pre-retirement players. And let a #1 pick walk without any compensation #Foolish

  18. Bucsfan951 Says:

    $1.1 million for the yr? That’s a slap in the face! JW needs to fire whoever his agent is. He just devalued himself so much that how can he justify getting paid $25-30 million next season? He makes far less than mariota. Far less than when teddy b signed with the jets/saints. I actually feel bad for jw. He needs better business ppl around him.

    This honestly smells as if Payton is paying JW to tell him the ins n out of BA’S offense.

  19. Bucsfan333 Says:

    And Jameis is about to get a Harvard education, huge upgrade from the HS coaching last year of a new QB coach running the show. Laughable

  20. El Buco Realisto Says:

    @buc1987

    Too add to what you just said, that if Brees does go down and retires, then old goat brady might just be a buc for one year!!!!!!!!!! “Word on the street” is that old goat brady is only here to pass Brees in the all time passing lead!!!!!!!!! So if brees plays out this year and retires, then old goat brady will need to play all of 2021 to take the all time passing in NFL history!!!!!!!!

    go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Doubt we get a comp pick when we pick up Brady….

    Relevant to comp picks would be Nassib, Perriman, Allen, Barber but those salaries aren’t very high

    You wonder if Jameis’ demand for big bucks really killed his chances with the Bucs or if they were just done with him……Ego & agent wouldn’t permit him to let the Bucs know he would play for $10 mil…….we’ll never know.

  22. AJ Says:

    This is setting up to become one of those “only the Bucs” moments. Doug Williams, Steve Young, Trent Dilfer….get ready to add Jameis name to this list.

  23. Elita Vita Says:

    I loved having Jameis on our team. However, that being said Im tired of the roller coaster ride. Producing so many yards only to be let down with his crucial interceptions. His off field Shenanigans has also cost him big time (no endorsements). Not rooting for the Saints, but am hoping the best for Jameis to turn things around for himself. … GO BUCS!!!

  24. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Oh JayMiss……. still spouting bullish!t.

    Go play baseball.

  25. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Jaymiss had 5 FIVE FIVE FIVE years to prove himself and a $30M second contract. He DIDN’T get it done.

  26. destinjohnny Says:

    I like so much aboutt him
    i just wish he had the chops to be elite.

  27. Buc1987 Says:

    Realist…I thought Brady says he doesn’t care about legacy and stuff like that.

  28. geno711 Says:

    FactTeller Says:
    April 29th, 2020 at 10:48 am
    He’s gonna be the 2021 Teddy.

    I am curious – were you on the Teddy Bridgewater bandwagon to replace Jameis this off season?

  29. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    I have no ill-will towards JW and I wish him well. I do think he has the talent to turn it around but we’ve been saying that for years here. Just like I had the ability to have a great body if I just stop eating donuts.

  30. Youngbucs Says:

    Maybe if you put your ego and money aside before you’d be here.

  31. Steven007 Says:

    Apropos of nothing at all I have to say how very refreshing it is not to see Trollm-a-x’s miserable scrawl in these comments lately. One would assume he’s now worshipping his hero on JoeSaints.com (or equivalent). A certain Negative dog might also find some comfort there.

  32. Wint Says:

    For a 1MM he went to the saints. Hell, we should have cut Blaine gabbert and signed Winston as the backup and have him learn from the GOAT. Then perhaps take back the starting reigns in 2 yrs.

  33. Buc1987 Says:

    AJ …yet how many QB’s have they let go and they turned out to still suck?

  34. FactTeller Says:

    @geno

    No I was not by ‘2021 Teddy’ I mean I can see him parlay this one season w NO to a nice 3 or 4 mid-level deal NEXT off-season like Teddy did with Panthers.

  35. geno711 Says:

    Comparison Winston to Brees
    6′ 4″ ———————————— 6′
    26 years old —————————- Almost retired
    Never lost a playoff game ————— Chokes in playoffs most years
    Threw 33 TD’s and 5000 yds ———– Threw 27 TDs and under 3000
    Reigning defensive MVP —————- Never won an MVP
    Only thrown 88 INTS career ———— Thrown whopping 237 INTs in career
    Gets free crab legs ———————- Gets lame free Wrangler jeans

  36. Afo Says:

    @Geno that shows how good Jaymiss is, would love him to be Saints franchise Qb after Brees retires

  37. LM Says:

    JoeWinstonFan & Jameis butt sniffers can’t handle that America’s Joke Pro Groper Brainless Winston is starting His new career as a journeyman quarterback.

  38. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    Besides the way it’s working Brady is here for 2 years then we can get Rogers when Love takes over in Green Bay.

  39. tickrdr Says:

    1.1 million for one year. Wowza!

    tickrdr

  40. Etzel Says:

    Manning, Luck, Roethlisberger…. all would’ve been fine without the QB Leech attaching himself to their legacies. Nothing says guru like signing old QB’s on their way out of the league…. He gave up playcalling and is still awful at clock management. Hope he doesn’t call back to back timeouts in a meaningful game next year….

  41. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    “… but you never know what happens.”
    .
    .

    Does Jameis have Tonya Harding on speed dial? Look out, Brees!

  42. geno711 Says:

    1.1 million for Winston with 150,000 signing bonus. What was the contract he allegedly declined from Pittsburgh. 1.8 million 1 year with a 200,000 signing bonus?

  43. Jmart2470 Says:

    Remember in February when the Bucs would be getting “A Steal” if we locked him up at only $25 million a season?

  44. D-Rome Says:

    I wish he put his ego aside when he was in Tampa. His ego and irrational belief that he can make every throw cost him a long term contract with the Bucs. I think it was Dan Orlovsky or some other analyst that stated Jameis plays as if he’s trying to prove why he was the #1 overall pick.

    Regardless, I’m glad he’s gone. The bad far outweighed the good and he would have *never* changed his style of play if he stayed in Tampa. Giving him a long term deal to play here would have reinforced that everything he’s done up to this point with his play style was OK.

  45. Sanford Salzman Says:

    Winston signed a cheap contract. Why didn’t we sign him at that price and let him learn from Brady. If or when he gets his turnovers under control he will be a GREAT quarterback and your readers will bemoan not keeping him.

  46. Bucs Fan Since ‘76 Says:

    $1.1 million? How much are we paying Gabbert?

  47. Cobraboy Says:

    $1 million? Is that correct?

    That’s a loooong way from $30 million ‘cuz I be ballin’…

    I am surprised at Jameis Christ’s lack of self-awareness.

  48. Cobraboy Says:

    Maybe Winston got fined $970k million per 2019 int…$30 million —> $1 million.

  49. Kord Says:

    Hope the Bucs beat the ever loving hell out of the saints this season!

  50. Eric Says:

    Best of luck to Jameis.

    Excellent opportunity for him. Bridewater had just come off a forgettable year with the jets before coming to the Saints.

    I shudder to imagine where we would be if Tom were hurt.

    saints are in much better shape if their Hall of Famerr goes down.

  51. Anthony Dickson Says:

    The Saints signing Winston has absolutely nothing to do with them wanting him to learn from Brees, rather what the Saints can learn from Winston about the Bucs playbook and player tendencies.

  52. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Winston articles sure do bring the trolls out.

  53. adam from ny Says:

    did you see charlie ward’s face while jameis was flapping away…?

    also jameis basically signed for the veteran minimum if you wanna sum it up in layman’s terms…

    so he went from those huge gun slinging stats and wanting 30 mil to league minimum…

    the choice was his, but if he wanted money, he prolly could have signed a 2 year deal with us for more bucks and learned behind the goat…

    i guess he thinks he’s the heir apparent once brees is gone…

    i’d wish him well…anywhere but the saints or the division for that matter

  54. adam from ny Says:

    too much crap and politics to come back to tampa tho,,,

    he was done here for a slew of reasons…

    ok i wish him well – except when he plays us

  55. LaMarcus Says:

    This is prove to be a huge mistake. JW will own us

  56. TampaBay AllDay Says:

    Instead of wishing the man good luck on his future endeavors you guys want to kick the man on his was out. He put his life and body on the line week in and week out. It’s a lot of pathetic, sad and racist bucs fans. What a shame.

  57. Steven007 Says:

    One could argue that if JW knew enough about his own players tendencies he wouldn’t be so turnover prone. He doesn’t seem to know much about defensive tendencies either.

  58. D-Rome Says:

    Why didn’t we sign him at that price and let him learn from Brady.

    That’s like your wife leaving you for another man but offering the spare bedroom to you so that you can learn from the better man.

  59. Ndog Says:

    Keep firing away, I see the authors of this website have joined the party.

    #karma

  60. Craig Says:

    I don’t understand the great things he has done.

    A great QB does not:

    Give away almost six games in a season

    Go 7-9 in a season

    Go 28-42 as a career win/loss record

    Never even get to smell a playoff game, much less play in one

    Throw 30 interceptions in one season with an all-time record of pick 6s.

  61. Joeypoppems Says:

    Im not a Winston hater. I dont think Winston is a bust. But the fact that he is going into year 6 in the NFL and is still talking about needing to learn says a lot.

  62. 541BucsFan Says:

    Everyone is mentioning Bridgewater, but there’s a better correlation …

    Josh Freeman

    Freeman was booted from the Bucs, went to Minn, threw INTs, and was out of the league. Winston will never be as accurate as Bridgewater but can be Freeman.

  63. adam from ny Says:

    a divison opponents playbook is a fair deal for a cool mil…

    and a back up qb to boot…

    smirky sean payton did alright…

    if someone offered BA all 3 division opponents 2019 playbooks in a fat envelope for 3 mil, he’d call the glazers and the check would get cut fast

  64. Game film doesn't lie Says:

    As Jameis has said before…
    “I guess that’s kudos to me!”

  65. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Patrick Mahomes is going to sign for 200x’s that….

  66. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    Anthony Dickson Says:
    “The Saints signing Winston has absolutely nothing to do with them wanting him to learn from Brees, rather what the Saints can learn from Winston.”
    .
    .

    Which is why there’s a $150,000 signing bonus. So he doesn’t get totally stiffed when they cut him after picking his brain. LOL

  67. geno711 Says:

    Ndog Says:
    April 29th, 2020 at 11:51 am
    Keep firing away, I see the authors of this website have joined the party.

    There is no one firing anything. It is a $148,000 signing bonus with a base of another $952,000 IF he makes the team.

    If New Orleans really valued him as their future starter after Brees next year they could have done a 2 year contract with a larger signing bonus – a small guarantee this year and a much larger guarantee next year.

    Sure New Orleans hopes he becomes a stud but this contract tells everyone that the Saints do not expect much from Jameis in the end.

  68. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    Ndog Says:
    “Keep firing away, I see the authors of this website have joined the party.”
    .
    .

    And you the guest of honor! I don’t know why you do this to yourself.

  69. Bruce Blahak Says:

    America’s Quarterbackup

  70. jmarkbuc Says:

    Ndog

    1.1 million/1 yr

    #karma

  71. Robert Says:

    who dat dude?

    he’s the uber guy…….. uber guy? yeah, you know the one who stole the crablegs…..crablegs???? man, he’s that fool from fsu that ran a train on that girl with his homies and then they deleted the tape when she regained consciousness.

    OHHH, I know who dat is.

  72. BrianBucs Says:

    Winston was a failed QB here, was not resigned by the Bucs because they knew they couldn’t win with him, and now he is with another team.
    Hopefully now this is the very last time that we see any posts about Winston here on Joe BUCS Fan

  73. Robert Says:

    he’s a 1%er

    RFLMAO…….. I crack myself up. 1 mill, 100 million…get it 🙂

  74. Robert Says:

    translation. you could not have paid the bucs to have him on our roster.

    he aint changing his stripes, just uniforms. I hope he plays us, we could use a few picks and Brady puts up a 40 burger by 1/2 time.

  75. DBS Says:

    Yes a new market. JoeSaintsFan. Where they can be inundated with 12 stories a day on Jameis while he sits on the bench. Hopefully this is last.

  76. LM Says:

    America’s Joke Pro Groper Brainless Winston got Paid a Million bucks to hand over our playbook & ride the bench all year “Ima be the best” Hahahaha!!!

  77. adam from ny Says:

    jameis was low hangin’ fruit…

    and snarky smirky payton came galavanting thru the patch and snagged a kiwi…

    #YesJameisWasTheKiwi

  78. Year of the Goat 2020 Says:

    anybody got some cheese with that whine ,……

  79. Pewter Power Says:

    Didn’t really put aside ego dude, you could have probably been a backup here with more money

  80. ©MadMax Says:

    SNITCHES GET STITCHES…..GO HEAD, GET OUT THERE BRUH!!!!!!

  81. Bucsfanman Says:

    $1.1 million for Jameis?! Bucs paid Blaine Gabbert $1.18 million.

  82. ©MadMax Says:

    Gotdam, wish i could meet jameis to shake his dam conniving hand!!!!

  83. ©MadMax Says:

    KNEES, KNEES, KNEES….D KNOWS ALREADY IF HE COMES OUT!

  84. sierra048 Says:

    You want to know what would have done Winston a ton of good his five years in Tampa? Real competition, with the better QB starting. Gifting him the QB job the night he was selected was the beginning of the road he finds himself on now.

  85. PhillyBuc Says:

    Glad the ATM is gone, but don’t understand him signing now with a team. Why not wait until someone inevitably gets injured and sign for more money later in the season. Hardly the definition of ballin..

  86. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Well Ndog, I guess the entire NFL is CLUELESS, right? I still think at 970K, Jay Miss is overpaid, but I’m gonna check my sheet.

  87. Bruce Blahak Says:

    Just to blow my own horn here. Leonard Williams was the pick. Would fit in pretty good right now. Feared the Winston bust. Hear we are….

  88. Swampbuc Says:

    If he came to Licht and asked for $1.1 million instead of $30 million plus he’d be learning from Brady instead of Brees. Stooge.

  89. ATrain Says:

    IT IS SOOO EXCITING TO HAVE AN EXCELLENT NFL MIND LIKE NDOG HERE

    KNOWS MORE THAN 32 NFL GMs

    Because NDog would have Jameis starting

    But 31 teams said NO not even has a backup —meaning they would top their back up for a starter who threw for 5000 yrds

    And One team said Ok but 1 million —— GLENNON got way more than that

  90. Bobby M. Says:

    I’ve said this many times with Winston….the dude lacks awareness, both on and off the field. He’s so engulfed with his “greatness” that he doesn’t comprehend reality. The way he handled the Uber incident and tried to railroad that gal publicly as well as blindside the organization, that’s going to stay with him for a long time. Teams don’t trust him and his on field results can be accomplished by nearly anyone who is given a 30 interception cushion for error. Fitzpatrick could throw 5,000 yds with Evans, Godwin, Howard, Brate….if you gave him 30+ turnovers.

  91. Bucsfanman Says:

    #karma

    Kind of like tanking games in 2014 to get the #1 overall pick?!
    And then having said #1 pick sign with your division rival for a pittance 5 years later?!
    That kind of #karma?!

  92. Youngbucs Says:

    He had no other offer so what’s he gonna say.

  93. bojim Says:

    Good luck Jameis!

  94. Bird Says:

    I figured he would get at least 5 mil a year
    Wow

    1.1 is not that good

    —-

    Wasbt Ndog saying book it at 30 mil per year ? 5 years ?
    Should we go into archives?

    I just love it when ndog calls people clueless
    😂

    30 mil ….nah here is 1.1
    And the karma is classic him

  95. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    NDOG….just say it. You’re a Winston fan, not a Bucs fan.

  96. Youngbucs Says:

    Winston will never get a mega contract to big of a risk.

  97. '79 Defense Says:

    He put in a lot of hard work in Tampa. I wish him well.

  98. JimmyJack Says:

    I do gotta hand it to Jameis for making a wise decision. It really is a great opportunity to reset his career.

    You gotta think he had a chance to latch on somewhere and compete for a job. But the situation would have probably been terrible. Too many players chase money in this league and wind up in terrible situations which hurts them in the long-term.

    Look at Cam Newton. He’s holding out for money. He will probably get it but it will probably be in a terrible situation and he might wind up cutting his career short. Winston is doing the smart thing IMO. He might have better options next year to play for a better team then what he was looking at this year.

    All in all the Bucs made the right decision not to keep him as a starter as he still is not ready to lead a team and needs to learn from a backup position. He will get himself ready and we will see where that goes.

  99. BigHog Says:

    Motherfokrer’s are all so nosey now, wanting to know what you getting paid, they laughing at it …but they cashing them stimulus checks!!! In the words of Mike Irvin :Look up, get up, and don’t ever give up: and may I add a line to that :and don’t ever, ever, ever look back at that dump of a city you just got freed from, let the GOAT eat all the trash he wants! You got your freedom now with a fresh start and more people that look like you and people that won’t be asking about a damn crab leg…instead the waitresses will be bringing free plates of Shrimp and Crayfish (CRAW-DADDIES) boiled to perfection!!! Get on with the business of setting your family up for life….and don’t look back this way until you coming to kick some BUC A$$!!! MR. 5,000 has left the building!!!

  100. Bird Says:

    ^^^^

    Big hog. Yah your a bucs fan
    You are a joke
    Get lost

    Telling jameis to kick bucs butt
    Man you are so creepy . You should get together with ndog
    You want mr 5000 so bad it hurts

  101. DBS Says:

    BigHog. Jameis on line one!

  102. gotbbucs Says:

    I love how this guy suddenly found Jesus after a decade of groping and allegedly sexually assaulting women. Conveniently coincides with knocking his girlfriend up.
    Jameis Winston to me is the epitome of a “busy idiot”, he runs around and looks like he’s working really hard, but never really finished anything and or accomplishes anything.

    Anyway, he plays for the Saints now, so he can eat sh!! as far as I’m concerned. He’ll fit in perfectly there. All of those football geniuses can get in one room, spit on their hands, and stroke each other’s “ego’s”.

  103. Adrnagy Says:

    Very smart from jameis. Learning from the best and keeping his foot inside the league.
    No need for the saints to wrap him up. It goes both way imo. Maybe jameis don’t want to be a saints after this year , he just wants to work with Brees.

    So far not bad of first 5 yrs for jameis.
    1 pro bowl
    1 5000 yd season
    2 times best offense in passing
    1 leader in TD

    All this with ugly coaching. No RB. No oline until his 5th season. No defense. No kicker.

    Avg 10-15 int qb before two face.

  104. Ghettos of Siberia Says:

    Only a guy with a .10cent head would surmise he needed
    to go elsewhere for his Harvard education…Would someone
    tell this QB that he had 2 teammates with educations from
    Harvard that he learned Nothing from..The Saints are playing
    him like a Stradivarius….

  105. Aceofaerospace Says:

    Joe, was a backup role with the Bucs ever discussed? Or was it just a straight parting of ways?

  106. Posey99 Says:

    “Remember in February when the Bucs would be getting “A Steal” if we locked him up at only $25 million a season?”

    Yes, full delusion mode for a lot of fans including people here. Fantasy football rankings are not real life rankings.

  107. Robert Says:

    @bighog

    Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face.

    -Tyson

    jw has a glass jaw.

  108. JimmyJack Says:

    Ace…..That’s a interesting thought but that’s a move that’s got drama written all over it. If we wanna try to push for a title that would just be a distraction that gets in the way……..Maybe probably moreso then it helps.

  109. mark2001 Says:

    So Brady is worth about 20 times as much at QB in this league this year. Sounds about right.

  110. mark2001 Says:

    AD…sure…very smart…to ask for 30 mil. when you are worth 1.

  111. Tye Says:

    A mistake by the Bucs, soon to be forgotten..
    Hip Hip Hooray!

  112. mark2001 Says:

    Yeah…very smart..when you probably could have made 15 times the money and been a starter here. I guess we don’t have the same definition of smart.

  113. mark2001 Says:

    I can hear it now… late in the forth quarter..Brees is parched coming off the field…he needs water now. “Hey Jameis… you can get that bottle of water here faster than anyone else. So throw it to me.” Great Idea…but unfortunately, the water bottle pass is thrown directly to the CB on the opposing team, who guzzles it down and spikes the empty bottle before anyone can get to him.

  114. Dapostman Says:

    Everybody can pile on now sure but what if Brady doesn’t get to a Super Bowl with Tampa and Winston becomes the Saints starter after two years and sticks it up the Bucs kazoo?

    Remember he who laughs last laughs loudest. Laughing now will do you no good.

  115. Kansas95Buc Says:

    The Bucs organization better hope Jamies never make it because if he does( and I personally think he will) it will expose every problem this organization has. Talk about classless… #SellTheTeam

  116. mark2001 Says:

    classless? Sure clueless… we appreciate your saged wisdom.

  117. Nole4JabooANDdBucs Says:

    All of you who are calling JW a loser I think he recieved about $60,000,000 for the 5yrs with the Bucs and he is only 26 yrs old, broke all of the QB records at TB and his only handicap is he came in as the youngest QB in the NFL and landed on a team who failed him with no running game or OL.
    So he goes to a better, stronger established team with a coach who has schemed against him for 5 yrs and a hall of fame mentor.
    So what is he losing? Now the Bucs on the other hand has father time for a QB and no back up…wow…so you don’t really know what you have!

  118. Ivan The Insider Says:

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!

    Anyone buying this “He’s smart to just go and learn and it’s not about the money” spin is a dumb dumb.

    This is what we call AGENT PR SPIN 101.

    No one was fighting to sign Winston and he’s very lucky he’s not out of the league. Someone put out that rumor that “Winston turned down a more lucrative offer” and many believe it to be the Steelers. Steelers sources then came out and said it was not true and they had ZERO interest.

    This “It’s like getting a Harvard QB education…” and other talk about “wanting to just learn from the best” etc. is PR SPIN, SPIN, SPIN.

    This is all just to save face that Winston ended up signing for PEANUTS because he was always going to be UNSIGNED at all because no one really wanted him.

    Anyone thinking “Sean Payton is a genius for getting him at such a great value and he sees the potential in him” is HOGWASH. My guess is Winston’s agent BEGGED Payton to sign him at even a minimal contract.

  119. mark2001 Says:

    You guys make me laugh. What do you think Jameis will learn in NO? How to read defenses after the snap? How to make better decisions? Newsflash…Jameis is pretty much a finished product…he is what he is. And to act like he is a second year player just learning his craft, or that getting beaten out for starter by Fitz and benched wasn’t enough to get the light bulb to go on, and being a backup now will? He is what he is.

  120. Nole4JabooANDdBucs Says:

    All of you who are calling JW a loser I think he recieved about $60,000,000 for the 5yrs with the Bucs and he is only 26 yrs old, broke all of the QB records at TB and his only handicap is he came in as the youngest QB in the NFL and landed on a team who failed him with no running game or OL.
    So he goes to a better, stronger established team with a coach who has schemed against him for 5 yrs and a hall of fame mentor.
    So what is he losing? Now the Bucs on the other hand has father time for a QB and no back up…wow…so you don’t really know what you have!
    Jameis the loser has contributed more of his time and money to TB…what have you done?

  121. Ivan The Insider Says:

    JAMEIS WAS NEVER GOING TO BE BROUGH BACK AS A BACKUP TO BRADY.

    Why do people keep asking this?

    Bringing Winston back as a backup would be a DISTRACTION. The FSU Jameis-homers would be at games chanting for Winston to enter the game at any moment Brady made a mistake or the team struggled.

    The Bucs were ready to MOVE ON from the Winston Experiment.

    As for people claiming that “Winston will make the Bucs realize how much of a mistake it was to let him go…” well… that’s certainly possible. But it’s called RISK-TAKING.

    Sticking with Winston ‘hoping’ that would happen was too high of a RISK strategically and the Bucs decided to move on in a new direction. They know Winston ‘could’ turn out to be a great player, but they’re not worth risking & investing another 5 years into him to find out. They know they can succeed without him.

  122. Ivan The Insider Says:

    JAMEIS WINSTON GRIEF TOUR: DAY 40

    Still Attending: Ndog, Adrnagy, LaMarcus, Kansas95Buc, BigHog

  123. doolnutts Says:

    I don’t care what anyone says… Winston had no market. You cannot win turning the ball over period. Blame who and what you want but this is the NFL. Excuses do not exist when you are the #1 overall pick. He has a lot of work to do. I don’t dislike Winston and I am honestly shocked he didnt even at least get a shot to compete but this is extremely telling.

    Honestly he couldn’t get on with the Chargers or Pats who desperately need a QB for 1.1 million?

  124. Ndog Says:

    Just wait, just wait, last time I checked the Saints know what they are doing while we can continue to lead the league in penalities, suck at running the ball, can’t kick FGs and play good defense sometimes vs David Blough, Gardner Minshew and the Jacob Brissett.

    I hope you all are still around when all of this blows up in your face. The one reason that Jameis is not starting in this league is you can’t sell him. He’s lost games, he’s thrown interceptions and he had allegations against him and that’s all the public knows and you can’t sell that. But for anyone that actually pays attention to anything other than memes they know that he is one of the most accomplished QB ever in his first five years in the league, he’s an extremely hard worker, he’s a great teammate, he’s extremely loyal and his upside is limitless. But again it’s fear as no one can sell him therefore they’re scared to run them out there and say he’s their big high price free agent. Face it teams don’t think about winning as much as they should, they think about selling tickets. That’s the problem and that’s the only problem as to why he doesn’t have a job today as a starter. The sad part is this is a media generated as he has never been convicted of a crime. In regards to the on the field part there is of course some bad and some great. Like it or not he compares very favorably to Peyton Manning in his first five years statistically speaking. Also he compares very favorably to everyone who played there first year in Bruce Arian’s offense Manning, Rothsburger, Palmer, Luck all of them struggled very similar to the way James did. It is simply fear of lack of be able to sell him and the Saints don’t have to sell him because they already have Drew Brees, if he goes out and plays great then they won’t have to sell him he’ll sell himself and then we’re screwed for the next decade which I think we all know is likely to happen. I personally think we screwed up and we’re going to pay for it for a very very long time.

  125. Ndog Says:

    I got newd for you Ivan the grief is going to last us all above 12 years. Yeah you can thank your lying, backstabbing buddy BA for that.

  126. [email protected] Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    I think Jameis is gonna do very well with the Saints, if Brees goes down.
    I feel that the West Coast Offense is much better suited to him, and he will have a real running game. He will not be playing from behind as he was here for much of the time.
    Yes, for 25 million, I would rather have Brady, but I still feel that Jameis has a future in the NFL.

  127. Armybucsfan Says:

    I bet you we offered him to be a backup behind Brady and he shot it down because he believed he was worth 30 MIL a year and is a starting QB. Jameis Ego is what got the best of him and it shows. 32 other teams felt he was not worth such a high price tag and Jameis was becoming desperate for a paycheck. Does the kid have skills yes but he would have been in a way better spot if he took 2 years to learn from the goat then come out breaking only the good records. Lol. His impatience will cost him dearly.

  128. Ndog Says:

    Just so y’all don’t forget:

    https://youtu.be/uTQ5mcyh1v

  129. Ndog Says:

    Armybucsfan when someone treats you like crap and bad mouths you publicly over and over again do you want to work for them?

  130. crazyBucs_CL Says:

    he got what he deserve and some more… so compare to Mariota:
    MM signed a two-year, $17.6-million deal with the Raiders as the No. 2 behind Derek Carr. Mariota will earn $7.5 million guaranteed in 2020.
    He was drafted one sot behind Winston.
    WJ 1.1 millon one year. I would say, better then nothing….
    I wish him the best, and never as a buccaneer again, so that’s it.
    Can we move on on this joeBUCSfan site??? !!!! Can we talk Bucs buisness???

  131. BucEmUp Says:

    He will beat the Bucs with the Saints. When Drew retires they will sign Jameis and the Bucs will regret it.

  132. Kansas95Buc Says:

    Hey Ivan The Insider, you know your team has NEVER EVER EVER developed a QB THEY DRAFTED? You just had a guy break damn near every QB record and you let him walk without giving the man a team to work with? I said it once and I’ll say it again, you can tell who is really watching 60 minutes of Buc football by the comments (NFL Ticket holder since 2009)

  133. Jean Lafitte Says:

    I think if Winston had offered to play for the 23 million a year like in his prior season, instead of demanding and standing firm at 30 mil then he would probably still be a Buc.

    Winston did NOT have the same leverage as Prescott, and Brady came available for less.

  134. DBS Says:

    Ndog. Why don’t you take you crap to Saints fan site? Tell them how lucky they are to have The Future Saints Savior. Jameis Christ. All the rest of the BS that went on here. Take the pictures too. Yes some of their fans like it. But as one said. “I hope it is a late April fools joke”.

  135. 813bucboi Says:

    ndog

    JW str8 trash…lol….

    he’s 1 DL injury away from getting cut…lol…

    if the saints need to make a roster move for depth, he’s going to be the lamb that gets sacrificed lol

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  136. 813bucboi Says:

    Ivan The Insider Says:
    April 29th, 2020 at 2:23 pm
    JAMEIS WINSTON GRIEF TOUR: DAY 40

    Still Attending: Ndog, Adrnagy, LaMarcus, Kansas95Buc, BigHog

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  137. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Still has to make the team…

  138. JE Says:

    Ivan good news. Npup has newds for you. Please dont share them with us when he sends them to you. Npup you are hilarious and delusional. All the NFL really cares about is winning. If a team think you can help them win a super bowl you get signed simple as that. Players with terrible rap sheets get signed if they can still play. Its only when they dont believe you help them win is when they take the high road. Just like the bucs did when they drafted this moron after the credible rape accusation. He was drafted by the bucs cause they thought he would make them contenders which was shameful. NFL teams always sign scum bags like Winston cause they think they will help. No NFL teams think he will help them win thats why he is a 3rd stringer making close to the league minimum. Move on moron. i bet if somebody looked you’re in Saints sites sucking Winston off on those, Time for you to haul ass. You were wrong about him and cant admit it.

  139. Kansas95Buc Says:

    Y’all can call me whatever, one thing you cant say is that I talk with no facts unlike other people….

  140. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Ndog to deny the allegations is something an incel would do.

    Come on man.

  141. Ndog Says:

    One question, why is everyone always looking at this second? The Bucs do that, boy has that worked out well? You people are doing that. Does no one look down the road to prepare for what’s coming? This is exactly why most of this world is in debit so bad.

  142. Phil Says:

    No team I hate more than the Saints. No quarterback I hate more than Drew Brees. I wish Jameis had gone somewhere else.

  143. Ndog Says:

    Allegations are nothing without proof and in fact if charges aren’t filed that would actually mean there is no proof so that means, for anyone that was not there, nothing happened.

  144. Check your sheet Says:

    Bet Lil Pup is pissed about his homeboy the ATM signing for peanuts (at least as far as an NFL quarterback is concerned), especially after throwing for 5100 yards. So happy the Bucs let this dude go and makes me laugh out loud that he was telling people he would not be happy playing for less than 29-30 million per year. Joke of the decade. Good riddance and Gooooooooooooo Bucs!

  145. DBS Says:

    No if you have politics in Tallahassee? Look who is in trouble now that was running for GOV. Caught with the drugs and all. No charges filed. Politics!!!

  146. EEK Says:

    Winston is getting paid 3rd string money and he is saying he needs to get his ego under control.
    What does this say about what the league thinks of him?
    He was the number 1 overall pick and now he’s expendable and isn’t guaranteed a roster spot as a 3rd string QB.
    Then he follows by saying that the QB room is like Harvard. Then he follows with “you never know”
    Dude can’t get it right. How about don’t say anything at all?

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he is cut before the season starts.

  147. Jeagan1999 Says:

    Leaving and going to the Saints are the best things that could have happened to Jameis. He needed to take a step back from being a starter and focus on the issues that got him in trouble (on the football field). Now he can learn from one of the best QBs of all time about how to read defenses, look off his initial reads, manipulate defenders with his eyes, and avoid making costly mistakes.

    I hope he takes advantage of this opportunity to reinvent himself.

  148. Alanbucsfan Says:

    So he’s making only $50,000 more than Ryan Griffin?
    Are they throwing in some beignets?

  149. Ndog Says:

    No I’m not upset that anyone is making what they are my making good or bad, buy yes I am upset that my football team is being coached by a self serving, backstabbing liar. He has brought in the old man club and simultaneously given our main rival a golden opportunity to reign over us for and additional 10 years all cause he wants to win a Superbowl and bail, not for us, this team, this city but 100% for himself. We are screwed people and anyone with a brain can see it clear as day. They got younger and better while we got a tired, old, weak armed, non mobile scared to get hit, going to wear down pre Madonna that has been getting the benefit of playing with the GREATEST DEFENSIVE MIND TO EVER LIVE and two of the best kickers to ever live. Think about this Brady has ALWAYS had a very good defense AND a very good kicker AND a very good oline. When has Jameis ever had even two of those, much less all three?

  150. Bucsgotachance..todonothing Says:

    Winston cheered cockroaches having sex on his grandma’s porch on national tv…first class gomer pyle..everyone talks about his interceptions but never bring up all his fumbles..his ball security is much like JFK security and we all seen what happen to him also rightfully so (started Vietnam)…
    Anyone talking about the what happens to the bucs after brady is done conversation well heres some logic for you…
    We draft a qb then or we pick up a free agent like brady lol
    Did anyone see all the qbs on the market this year…cam newton still put there…i offer him the Winston deal come hold a clip board for 1million and learn from the goat of football lol..
    You guys are drama queens with your Winston will haunt us garbage..

    How bout finding a team you like to pull for..sounds like a few of you are stanks fans feel free to root your guy on why he pats
    Brees on the back and tells him everything will be okay.

    Guess how stanks got brees ummmm free agency i actually lobbied for him to come to Tampa bit who cares i hope he gets retired n bucs get winston twice a year…love to get some interception tds

  151. Ndog Says:

    You people are so dumb the only reason he is doing this and even saying what he is saying is because he realizes this is what the lemmings, like yourselves, want him to say. I mean the tide is already turning as I have seen more positive comments, on the internet, on him today than the last 5 years combined. He’s going to play the PR dumba$$ game then FINALLY get on the field with an elite oline, good running game and respectable defense with a coach that is not going to bail on the run in the first quarter claim the NO job once Brees is done and rip us apart for the next 10 years while we are sitting here saying what happened why don’t we have a QB???!?!?!?!

  152. mark2001 Says:

    So he is now playing for the Payton Shady’s. Here is some simple math for even the least among us on this board….Bourbon Street…plus Jameis…equals trouble.

  153. DBS Says:

    Ndog . go join the Saints if your tat worried about Jameis. Tell mommy to give you your passifier.

  154. Bucsfan951 Says:

    I just wonder if JW prefers NDOG, err, his cheerleaders with or without spanx?

  155. geno711 Says:

    Sean Payton in my opinion is the 2nd best offensive mind in the NFL. The top is Andy Reid. Andy Reid has Chad Henning as his back up. Sean Payton has Jameis Winston as his back up.

    NDOG said yesterday on this site that Jameis Winston will be the Saints starting quarterback for 10 years after Bree’s leaves next year. That is not a contract for someone the Saints think is going to be their 10 years starter.

    If either Chad Henning or Jameis Winston leaves their respective teams next year, both those coaches will be able to go out and get someone better even if it is a 2nd or 3rd round rookie.

  156. ATrain Says:

    NDog you keep up the fight

    I bet you would be the Guy screaming This Ship is Unsinkable as you were standing on the deck of Titanic with water around your feet

    By the way I bet Jamies is Never a #1 again in the NFL

    Bucket O’ Beer

    By the way NDog —— We know your are really Jameis

  157. mark2001 Says:

    LOL… to act like Jameis is the heir apparent in Shadyville is pretty funny. He is a backup, and when Brees retires, the position will be up for grabs. He might have a chance… heck, dozens of QB’s might have a chance. Frankly, if Jameis doesn’t look at this as a last chance, and realize that “ballin” as he has been won’t cut it, I’d predict that be out of the league in three years. Hope that isn’t the case…but this is his last real chance to prove himself a viable starting long term QB…and I hope he gets that…instead of blaming it on the Bucs, and the rest of the Bucs team.

  158. Ndog Says:

    mark2001 who have the Bucs ever really developed on offense? Evans and Godwin still runs trash routes, Mike Alstott was always a beast, who have they ever developed? Seriously give it a shot?

  159. Ndog Says:

    Jameis is by far the most talented quarterback the Saints have had probably ever and you mean to tell me they can get Taysom Hill and Teddy Bridgewater to produce yet Jameis won’t be successful there if given an opportunity you must be kidding right?

    It’s more like you people hope he isn’t successful because you know good and damn well if he is were screwed for a long time and you morons asked for it.

  160. BigHog Says:

    Really …ya’ll need to stop with that rape crap …how did he get in her room? Or how did she get to his room? Question 1 Answer ..never heard anything like he kicked the door in, gold digger wanted it and she got it and he paid for it no harm done.Question 2 Answer…She skipped her way to his door and said I’d like to speak to the FAMOUS one….the reason for two questions is the girl was so damn drunk she couldn’t tell her story straight two times in a row!! Check your women they want the long ball!! RAPE ….that’s just bull sh**..Prez aint jail why should MR.5,000? NO CHARGES NO TRAIL…but the gold digger did get paid…he took a page out of Prez playbook!!! So long Tampa Bay but don’t close your eyes …I’ll be back!

  161. DBS Says:

    2 down. Next.

  162. BigHog Says:

    I’ve been a BUCS fan since inception…so no one can tell me who, what, when, where, or how!!!Have a good day….DBS!!

  163. WestChap Says:

    This is the cheap, easily cast aside contract I feared when Jameis to NO was first announced… not real, just a prolonged coffee.

    Sadly, Bucs will never get a chance to beat Saints courtesy of a Jameis pick-6… even though that would be true poetry… as this contract coupled with the big pay raise for Taysom indicates Payton is just taking a flyer without any long term interest. Hopefully, JW will do enough in training camp not to get cut as his presence on Saints is a plus for us.

  164. DBS Says:

    Your the 1 said you so long idiot.

  165. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Drew Brees has been mentoring Winston for years…you can bet he had a say in signing him. Winston WILL be great in this league.

    Hopefully, we’ll get a QB worth spit after Brady.

  166. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Ndog Says
    “Jameis is by far the most talented quarterback the Saints have had probably ever”

    Do you realize how idiotic that is when they have Drew Brees? lol

  167. mark2001 Says:

    So Ndog…why do you think they brought in Arians and Moore last year? They did so to see where Jameis was and try to develop him into the franchise QB that his talent would expect him capable of being. Arians did everything he could to excuse away Jameis mistakes early in the year, hoping he would outgrow them. This was the greatest thing the Glazers could do to give him every chance to grow into the QB we hoped he would.

    But at the end of the year, he was making the same mistakes he did early in the season. Jameis had his way of playing and wasn’t going to change. By the end of the year, Arians knew Jameis was what he was, and that his attempts to help him develop into a franchise QB were for not. And I doubt he will change what he is no matter where he goes.

    Payton is taking a flyer…a cheap one at that by NFL standards. At worst, he only gets intel on the Bucs and the Offensive system. At Best, the light goes on and Jameis learns that just “ballin” isn’t enough to get him a starting job. Is he incapable? Is it maturity? I don’t know…but I do know Arians and most of the league doesn’t think he is salvageable; he wouldn’t have been plan C, D, or whatever. You feel different. I think they may be right but hope he finds a place and is successful, other than with the shady’s.

  168. mark2001 Says:

    Bonzai..if Brees has been mentoring Jameis for years, we have nothing to worry about. Doesn’t look like Brees is good at mentoring.

  169. WalkdaPlank Says:

    “Jameis is by far the most talented quarterback the Saints have had probably ever”

    Ndog whatever you are smoking, I want some.

    Enjoy another night with your Jameis Winston body pillow, from the sounds of it you’ll have to be ordering another one soon.

  170. mark2001 Says:

    BTW Ndog..Jameis aside… I think you are wrong about Evans and Godwin. And again, the most knowledgeable people in the league disagree with you.. and if you don’t believe me look on what it takes to be second team All Pro. I’m not talking about some Pro-bowl beauty contest. Second team All Pro. Only people that really know the game even get to vote on them. And these guys are among the select few..the very best.

  171. El Buco Realisto Says:

    “Word on the street” is that Pittsburgh offered 2 million, but was denied by league office because “that would be too much sexual assault in one room”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!

  172. Chris K Says:

    NDog, are you sleeping with Jameis? The most talented QB the have ever had?! WTF!??!!

  173. geno711 Says:

    Press conference with Jameis today with New Orleans Beat Writers:

    Question:
    Jameis did you have other offers from teams and did you have options for more money and possibly even a compete for a starting job?

    Jameis:
    Well…
    You know…
    yes…
    aah…
    aah.. I did but….

    Did not actually sound to me that he was being truthful there.

    For context, he wrote the following statement after the Uber incident:
    “I believe the driver was confused as to the number of passengers in the car and who was sitting next to her.” He also had his friend from FSU, the DB, say Winston was not in the front seat and others were in the car.

    We find out later that it was just Jameis in the car and he was in the front seat.

    It feels like another lie to me today. This is clearly my opinion on the lie today and I am not suggesting it is fact.

  174. Chris K Says:

    *the Saints…

  175. Ndog Says:

    So you people honestly believe Brees has ever been as talented as Jameis? I didn’t say better I said more talented.

    You people really cannot read can you?

    It’s like taking to a bunch of 3rd graders. Wow just wow.

  176. Chris K Says:

    He’s nowhere near as TALENTED as Brees..Or Archie Manning or Aaron Brooks.. We read your words just fine. Why don’t you just kick rocks and go to a Saints fans site? They will laugh you off their site the same way you’re getting laughed at on here… Wow just wow 🤦🏻‍♂️

  177. geno711 Says:

    For those suggesting Steelers had better offer to Winston, Pittsburgh GM Kevin Colbert told 93.7 The Fan on Wednesday: “I can honestly say that we absolutely made no negotiation or any offer to any veteran quarterback.”

  178. WalkdaPlank Says:

    “So you people honestly believe Brees has ever been as talented as Jameis? I didn’t say better I said more talented.“

    Ndog, buddy, put the Jameis Winston blow up doll away for a second and think without the kool-aid.

    What in the WORLD do you mean by “more talented”? Because we know Jameis can’t THROW the ball better than Brees. Is he “more” talented because he’s taller? Because he can run slightly faster? Because he’s a more mobile QB which results in MORE fumbles (111 turnovers in not even 5 full seasons)??? Because those are the only things Jameis has that Brees doesn’t.

    More athletic maybe, but that doesn’t mean more talented you moron.

    Remember, Brees has thrown for 5,000 yards FIVE TIMES. Nobody else has done it even TWICE.

  179. geno711 Says:

    NDOG thinks arm strength means talent.

    Except if someone besides Jameis has more than it does not count.

    I.e. Josh Allen has better arm strength and is more athletic than Jameis but his talent in those areas do not count.

  180. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    52nd highest paid QB in the NFL….

  181. geno711 Says:

    NDOG changes the criteria throughout the day.

    We have to come up with a whole new word.
    It combines favorable and Jameis in some way.

    Jamorable – definition – a theory of arbitrary characteristics thrown together that will allegedly make Jameis the most talented quarterback in the league.

  182. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Jameis is #2..
    and that will be the number he wears with the Saints… 🙂

  183. Doctor Stroud Says:

    Not getting his eyesight fixed while he was a Buc was negligence, and somebody should fired or sued. Still, it’s time to move on…sigh…

  184. Ivan The Insider Says:

    Kansas95buc,

    The Bucs have “developed” many QBs they’ve drafted. Doesn’t mean they turn out to be consistent Pro Bowlers.

    The Bucs bought the most expensive OLine in the NFL at one point during Winston’s 5 years. Winston also had a 1,400+ yard rusher his first year and he could only muster the team to 6 wins.

    Winston had over 100 turnovers in his 5 years. He CONSISTENTLY turns the ball over to opponents. INTs and fumbles. He’s also had accuracy issues and inconsistency.

    After FIVE YEARS he didn’t seem to improve on that inconsistency and those turnover issues. Yes, I get it that if you’re asked to throw the ball more you’re going to probably throw more INTs. That’s a logical expectation. But 30 INTs? That’s absurd. And again, he threw many INTs in every year he’s been in the league.

    Keeping Winston the team for another 4-5 years was a MAJOR RISK like it would be to pay any QB big money. Based on his inconsistency and turnover problems, the Bucs chose to try and win with someone else and have a fresh start. That’s not some “crazy plan” or anything. It’s common sense.

    NDOG,

    In all my criticism of Winston, I rarely ever even reference his off the field issues. But with that being said, if you don’t think something inappropriate happened in that Uber situation, then you’re truly biased. If that was anyone else (that didn’t do it) they would TAKE A STAND for themselves and FIGHT how they didn’t do it and it’s a lie and NEVER end stop taking that position. That’s not what Winston did, which most likely means it happened (or a variation of it), and if so that was a major mistake on his part.

    But NDog… you’ve now shown your true colors with all the BA and Licht bashing. I think most of the other real Bucs fans on this site would agree… you’re no true Bucs fan anymore and don’t get to enjoy the success we’re about to have. Go enjoy those Saints games!

  185. Ivan The Insider Says:

    I’m convinced that “Ndog” is actually one of the following…

    1. Winston himself.
    2. Winston’s mom or another relative.
    3. Winston’s agent or associate.
    4. Jameis1of1
    5. Some 9 year old kid.

  186. Fake Kobe faker Says:

    Ivan The insider…..nailed it! Lmao

  187. RODNEY ALLEN Says:

    For that price he shoulda stayed with the Bucs behind Brady but I guess u can’t put ur ego that far behind 💯🤷🏻‍♂️

  188. Ndog Says:

    First 5 years starting in the league and keep mind Brees sat a year to learn while Jameis played as a rookie AND Brees was playing with Ladainian Tomlinson the entire time. So as you idiots can see we just gave up a better version of Drew Brees to the same guy that took Brees to the SUPER STAR level he is now. You people honestly have no idea what you are talking about!

    Brees
    Comp%: 62.8
    Yards: 16,545
    TDs: 105
    TD%: 4.3
    INTs:. 64
    INT: 3
    Rating: 87.5

    Jameis
    Comp%: 61.3
    Yards: 19,373
    TDs: 121
    TD%: 4.7
    INTs: 88
    INT%: 3.5
    Rating: 86.9

  189. Ndog Says:

    Ivan do you think I care if what I consider the dumbest football fans I know think of me? You have to be kidding me you fool.

  190. Mike Johnson Says:

    something is not right with our Bucs. But then again, that’s been the case for ions. One failure after another. Arians is not all of that. If he was, how come Jameis got one yr under him? Saints sign the best backup in the league for a pittance. Now who’s the loser we got backing up our statue of Liberty? jameis is going to learn a lot under the New Orleans coaching staff. How many times they beat us? can’t count the numbers. I wonder what its gonna feel like when Jameis marches into Rayjay one day and beats us? Its gonna be a Silencing of the..Hams.

  191. mark2001 Says:

    The Steeler GM said they definitely didn’t make an offer to Jameis, or any other veteran QB. I believe him. CBS Sports …

  192. mark2001 Says:

    Sure Mike…I get it… Arians, who has worked with many of the great QB’s in the league doesn’t know anything, but Jameis, who has failed to ever play well for more than three games in a row, that has never been to the playoffs, is the best backup in the league, and the guy to march into Raymond James one day and beat us, because Shady Payton is now the QB whisperer, and will preform electroshock on Jameis and get him to stop “ballin” and start playing like a successful franchise QB. You guys are more than hilarious.

  193. geno711 Says:

    Really guys we have to come up with definitions for all the NDOG things:

    Jamorable – definition – a theory of arbitrary characteristics thrown together that allegedly makes Jameis the most talented quarterback in the league.

    Jamoristorian – definition – a series of arbitrary statistics thrown together from a quarterback many years Jameis senior to show that Jameis Winston is better or equal to another quarterback.

    I.e. Joe Flacco statistics at Baltimore are better than Johnny Unitas. Therefore, Joe Flacco is better than Johnny Unitas.

    Jamexcuse – definition – the reason that game (or unfortunately reasons for some games) that Jameis threw an interception.

    i.e. Bruce Arians should not have called that play. The running game is so bad. Oh right – I do not have enough excuses for the 4 interception games.

    Jameisfuture – definition – he will get picked by X team and will go on to win 2 MVP’s, 3 superbowls, go to 7 pro bowls and get an endorsement commercial for Uber.

  194. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Lol.. funny Geno !

  195. gotbbucs Says:

    Now Joe can add “52nd highest paid QB in the NFL” to his ridiculous Winston title.

  196. Ndog Says:

    Last time I checked Johnny U and Flacco didn’t play against each other but keep posting your idiotic comments cause I schooled you fools once again. You make it to easy cause you all are just so CLUELESS!!!!!!!

    HAHAHAHA!!!!! You got nothing baby just face it you are wrong and will continue to be wrong. All you bring are cute nicknames but when it comes to anything relevant you have ZERO!!!!!
    Look at the numbers pal and I even gave Brees the benefit of the doubt by not mentiong he also played with a soon to be HOFer in Antonio Gates. So he sat a year THEN got to play with a HOF running back AND HOF TE most of his time in San Diego.

  197. geno711 Says:

    I trolled ndog. he is such a idiot

  198. Chris K Says:

    Ndog is a giant volley ball. Bucs fans are Babe Ruth with an aluminum bat!!
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  199. Anonymous Says:

    DBS::Put the bottle down and take a dump to drain your brain of all that hate crap …idiot x 2!!!

  200. BigHog Says:

    DBS:::put the bottle down and take a dump to drain your brain of that hate crap….idiot x 2!!!

  201. Buczilla Says:

    Out of sight, out of mind. Jameis is just another ultra talented quarterback drafted by the Bucs that failed miserably with the team. Vinny, Dilfer, Josh, and now Winston were/are missing something that prevents them from fulfilling their potential. Dudes like this litter NFL history (Jeff George, Jay Cutler, etc.) and they show just enough promise to keep getting chances that they will ultimately blow.

    Steve Young was the exception not the rule. Very rarely do any of these types of quarterbacks turn their careers around. From a personal view, I wish Jameis well and I think that he’s a good kid that made mistakes. Football wise, I hope he and the Saints lose every damn game. It’s a shame that we wasted 5 years on Jameis and some of the other quarterback failures that we’ve drafted, but life goes on. 😛

  202. Tye Says:

    If there ever was a comment section that made it obvious who are true Bucs fans and who are Jameis fan masquerading as Bucs fan, this is the one..
    the only mystery here is how many aliases one person may be using…

  203. Ivan The Insider Says:

    Ndog,

    When you include fumbles lost, Winston has like a +30 to +35 turnover differential compared to Brees during those years.

    If you estimated that about 1/3rd of turnovers result in a TD during that opponents ‘given’ possession, that means Winston gave the other teams something in the neighborhood of *70* more points that Brees did. That’s insane.

    You also failed to mention that Brees had JUST ONE losing season in his first 5.

    You also failed to mention that back in 2002-2006 that you take these stats from, the NFL wasn’t as much of passing league as it is today. So Brees’ stats are skewed toward the downside.

    You also fail to mention that because Winston played in far more losing games during his first 5 years, that he played in many 4th quarters where the game was already decided and the Bucs were typically down 2-3 possessions. Leading to softer, prevent defenses and a much easier time to rack up yards and late TDs.

    Brees, on the other hand, with 4 out of 5 winning seasons, was often RUNNING OUT THE CLOCK in 4th quarters and just handing the ball off a lot.

    So this “stat comparison” really isn’t even close when you consider “Crunch Time” production as well as the turnover differential.

    Sorry, but you lose again. And, dude, any real Bucs fan that has watched all or most of Winston’s games knows that so much of his yardage and many TDs did come in that “garbage time” that many people mention.

    A great example in this past season… we’re already out of the playoff chase… Winston even supposedly has 2 injuries… yet he STAYS IN GAMES late? Refusing to come out to give Griffin a chance to play when the game is already out of reach. And risking further injury to himself? (Dumb).

    Winston is nothing more than a stat-padder. So many Bucs games I remember watching when we had gotten blown out and Winston is still in the game to the very last second and he’s passing the ball all over the field.

    All stats aren’t equal and there’s no way you can refute that.

  204. SB Says:

    Ndog Says:
    April 29th, 2020 at 2:30 pm
    I got newd for you Ivan the grief is going to last us all above 12 years. Yeah you can thank your lying, backstabbing buddy BA for that.

    …………………….

    “English Mother Trucker! SPEAK IT!”

  205. SB Says:

    Maybe your next glass should be water Ndog

  206. SB Says:

    gotbbucs Says:
    April 29th, 2020 at 7:48 pm
    Now Joe can add “52nd highest paid QB in the NFL” to his ridiculous Winston title.

    ……………….

    OH SNAP!
    Might be top 5 post of the month!!!!!!

  207. Jim Says:

    This is what’s going to happen. Drew Brees will get injured in the NFC title game and Winston will play. Saints go to the SB in Tampa and wins. Just like Hostetler when Simms got injured and won the SB in Tampa.

  208. James Walker Says:

    In 3 years when Winston is sweeping the Bucs for the next 8 seasons all the haters will be crying.

  209. REDZONE BA Fa Says:

    Jim Says: April 29th, 2020 at 10:55 pm

    This is what’s going to happen. Drew Brees will get injured in the NFC title game and Winston will play. Saints go to the SB in Tampa and wins. Just like Hostetler when Simms got injured and won the SB in Tampa.
    ______________________________________________________

    Jim – Should that crazy scenario play out as you described —- which is a real possibility – The INTER-WEB GOOGLE machine – will explode!!! (A JOKE – Bucs fans – per Ron Burgundy- please laugh)

    JBF SITE will crash the INTER-WEB if JW leads Saints to SB win in Ray Jay!

    “I’m Ron Burgundy, and this is what’s happening in your world tonight. … For all of us here at News Center Four, I’m Ron Burgundy. You stay classy!”

    It’s a BUCS LIFE – let’s see it play out. Tompa Brady should be the QB lifting SB Trophy in 2020. GOAT has real Weapons, O-LINE, great D. ALL-IN to win 2020 SB.

    No Excuses!

    Deliver!

  210. Bucsgotachance..todonothing Says:

    Boo hoo Winston will prove you wrong…bhahaha..haha..haha..haha
    Will this be before or after he cheers cockroaches on while they have sex…bums defend bums its like the oath of the homeless..
    I prayed gruden would get hime and put the final touches on his weak psyche but he choose the other lame duck in that qb class…

    Ndog-winston going to be a big bad man and rough up the bucs the next 45yrs and prove all you guys wrong about everything you know..you guys know nothing your just a bunch of stupid heads and i don’t care what you say about me..sure call me a saint fan im fine with that because they are such a better team(delusional little guy)

  211. ©MadMax Says:

    1.1 mill? Geeze, a lot worse than i thought….WOW, BAHAHAHAGGAGAGAGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  212. Sorryjackchuckiesback Says:

    This dude is so fake!! And I think the people that never liked Winston are the more perceptive people!! The ones who can pick up on who someone really is…. That last press meeting he had after the falcons game.. THAT’S the real Winston!! … He hides behind this nice guy attitude because he had to from what he’s been charged with in the past!! Everything about him seemed fake to me from his ah-shucks interviews to eating W’s ….. Fake!!

  213. DJ Shotgunn Says:

    Screw these fairweather fans! Theyre more fans of JBF then fans of the team anyway. The Bucs was a crap team b4 him & he was drafted here, he broke alot of records with a crap team. Team did little to help him by drafting or signing a bunch a mf that ain’t with the team no more! But it’s all his fault right! Smh

  214. BigHog Says:

    MadMax: did you get that stimulus check yet?

  215. Bradybru Says:

    Blah blah blah blah blah………too bad he’s not a starter, the consensus is that we are all celebrating