The Anti-Jameis

March 25th, 2020

“Jameis, if I kept you around any longer I was going to stroke out. My ticker is too old.”

It seems Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians got tired of the roller coaster.

That’s what Bucs fan Phil Simms said yesterday.

Yes, Joe is calling the Super Bowl-winning quarterback and current CBS talking head a Bucs fan. Why? Because he said he watched every Bucs game last year.

And there was good reason to. The Bucs had behind center the man Brent Musberger dubbed “Mr. Entertainment,” adding there was no NFL player more entertaining than America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.

“Bar none!” Musburger once hollered to Chris “Mad Dog” Russo.

But hearing Simms yesterday on his appearance with popular radio and sports personality Adam Schein, speaking on “Schein on Sports,” heard exclusively on SiriusXM Radio, Jameis’ highs and Jameis’ lows got to be too much for Arians (is his heart acting up?).

New Bucs quarterback Tom Brady, to hear Simms, is Steady Eddie.

“I watched every game of the Bucs last year,” Simms said. “I liked them. Jameis was outstanding most of the time. But man, Jameis has one flaw. And I’m not being smart or cute or anything. He makes more great throws than just about any quarterback in the league. And that’s not an exaggeration. He can scramble and move for a big guy.

“But three or four times a game, he loses control of the football. And when you lose control of the football in the NFL, it usually means you are going to lose it high. And when you lose it high, it is always trouble.”

Man, Joe can just hear Simms’ coach Bill Parcells talking there. Joe will never forget the clip of rookie Drew Bledsoe with the Patriots (drafted by Parcells) and Parcells teaching him how to throw the ball low because if you missed low it rarely got picked, but if you missed high, it often got picked.

And for those thinking Brady, who will be 43 this summer, is better off working at his newly launched Hollywood production studio than playing in the NFL, Simms thinks those people are in for a rude awakening.

“Tom Brady, the arm, I’m not going to say it is as good as it has ever been,” Simms said. “But I don’t notice a difference in the arm at all.

“If you think he doesn’t have it, I don’t know what to tell you. You are in for a surprise.”

Simms also believes Brady is a strong fit for Arians.

“Tom Brady made a great choice going to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.”

61 Responses to “The Anti-Jameis”

  1. Rod Munch Says:

    Winston not only had 5100 yards passing and 33 TDs, he also had 250 yards on the ground with another TD.

    Man is that a ton of production to replace.

    I like Brady, I’m not down on the pickup at all…

    But just resign Winston as the backup. There’s no shame in being benched for a year or two if it’s for the greatest of all time. If there is no market for QBs at this stage, then throw out a deal where you pay him $3-4m to be the backup. Then, even if Brady does suddenly get old, the entire season isn’t tanked with Blaine Gabbert at QB.

  2. Rod Munch Says:

    Somewhat related, since it’s about protecting the QB… but if you’re the Bucs you have to look forward on how you’re going to get Shaq and Godwin paid, and there’s one contract you really look at, Donovan Smith.

    In a draft that is loaded with tackles, I wonder if Licht’s top two picks aren’t offensive tackles. If you got one of the top LT’s in the 1st, do you then get another T in the 2nd? Obviously you plop in one of the rookies at RT, and get them ready for next year when you move Smith, either by trade or cut.

    I’m much higher on Smith than most here, but his salary is high, and it was only a 3-year deal in the first place. Even if Smith is just average, that’s roughly a $14m a year position for an average starter that you’d still need to resign again after next year.

    So draft two T’s, in a deep draft, sounds like plan. Additionally Licht has done well drafting offensive lineman, much better there than at any other position.

  3. Petty Officer Buc Says:

    Who? Who is this Jameis guy? He sounds familiar. Did he once play in the NFL?

  4. BrianBucs Says:

    Nothing in the NFL hurts you like turnovers do. And Winston’s 30 picks plus 5 lost fumbles hurt the Bucs a lot more than his 5100 yards helped them.
    Having more turnovers that TD passes is a team killer.
    When you are continually turning the ball over and costing your team games, big yardage numbers don’t mean sh&t

  5. Jeebs the Honey Bear Says:

    Rod Munch you are delusional. Winston would never come back here, even if we did want him, which we don’t. First of all, it would be incredibly disruptive to have your former QB, who was a 1st overall pick, now riding the bench behind the newcomer, who also just so happens to be the best QB of all time. Constant drama and distraction. Second of all, Winston already said goodbye, and that we would see him again in February (implying he will be taking his team to the Super Bowl this year). Winston has way too much ego to come back here as the backup (there is shame in being benched). He is still hoping he somehow gets a starting gig, but more likely he will compete with a mediocre QB or backup an injury risk.

    And finally, to address your comment on his production, when you turn the ball over 35 times (with 7 pick sixes), you are FORCED to throw for 5000 yards and 30+ TDs, because you’ve put your team in such a hole or keep giving leads away.

    In other words, stick to your day job, which I hope doesn’t involve much critical thinking.

  6. BrianBucs Says:

    Nothing in the NFL hurts you like turnovers do. And Winston’s 30 picks plus 5 lost fumbles hurt the Bucs a lot more than his 5100 yards helped them.
    Having more turnovers that TD passes is a team killer.
    When you are continually turning the ball over and costing your team games, big yardage numbers don’t mean sh&t
    Winston = Addition By Subtraction

  7. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Tom Brady is no doubt an upgrade over Jameis….

    But for BA to bring up Teddy Bridewater in that interview yesterday was uncalled for and a slap in the face to Jameis.

    Really makes me question the decision making going on at OneBucPlace if you’re gonna give the keys to a game manager after a 5 game sample size. BTW in 2 of those games Teddy put up a whopping 12+13 points and still win. When was the last time Jameis ever did that?

    Shallow move by BA.

  8. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Bucfan1987

    Is it ok if I speak about Winston or are you going to point this out to me?

  9. Sport Says:

    Rod – I can see your point about bringing JW back, it could happen, but it’s highly unlikely and comes with an absolute ton of drama and garbage. I can appreciate the need to see a solid succession plan in place. I can see a 3rd rounder holding the clipboard for 2 years being an aaceptable plan.

    With an improving defense and smarter decisions with the football, we won’t need fantasy/vanity stats to be a winner.

    Complimentary football is what wins. Even the least agreeable JBF’rs can usually agree on that.

    TB12 said it himself, you throw to who’s open and can make a play.

    In BA I Trust!

  10. 941bucsfan Says:

    Yea bridgewater is the definition of a game manager. And when your defense the first 8 games of the year was on pace for historic numbers, a game manager is not what we needed. Alot of facts being thrown around but there is one fact no matter what anyone says. The bucs were in position to win many games in the 4th qtr and either jameis threw a pick to end it, or the defense let someone go all the way down the field and win the game.

    Matt gay cost us 2 wins

    Defense cost us at minimum 2 wins.

    There is your 11 wins even with 30 from jameis… thats a fact

  11. SteelStudBuc Says:

    Trolling the fans

  12. Pete I Says:

    Rod Munch just whistling past the graveyard. No one in their right mind wants Jameis anywhere near what needs to be Tom Brady’s team with the multitude of distractions already in place for the coming season.

    The check yo sheet I be ballin demoted QB? Nope!

    Watching Brady NOT throw picks won’t help Jameis not to throw picks.

  13. Rod Munch Says:

    What are these distractions? Everything ever about Winston says he’s an awesome guy to play with. It’s why nearly all his team mates didn’t celebrate the Brady signing right away, they didn’t want to seem disrespectful.

    For Winston, it’s an easy sell. You’re being benched, for now, for the best of all time. How can you get mad at that? Additionally, even if he misses a year or two, he’ll be what, 28 or something? Dan Fouts, a HOFer, did nothing in his career until he was 28. Winston is built, and has the arm, so that he can play into his 40s as well – so overall this would just be a blimp.

    Also, yes, he can obviously learn from Brady and he’ll be a better QB and a better leader. It’s a win for everyone.

    As for the distractions? From who, the media? In case you didn’t know the media is going to be here 24/7 drooling over Brady, so I don’t know what other distraction you’re talking about.

    Yes, it won’t happen – it makes way too much sense, but it should happen. There is no one else better on this earth to take that backup job in TB right now than Winston – and he’s available. Give him a strong sales pitch and sign him. The idea that this will be his team again in a couple of years in the meantime he gets a masterclass in QB play, that should be a big selling point.

  14. DavidBigBucsFan99 Says:

    Well Pete the truth whistles right past you and all the people who hold on to that I be ballin statement. Joe pointed out months ago that he said you take away the turnovers and he’s ballin. Yes even if you cut those down to under 20 the numbers he put up would show he was balling. The thing about you” haters” is you cherry pick 1 thing and blame it all on him when it comes to wins and losses even though football is a team sport. Defense and special teams cost us games as well as he did. You all act like he’s the only one playing on the field.

  15. Pete I Says:

    Except DaveBigBallinBucs you can’t take away the turnovers. So he was ballin all right, ballin into the record books for lots of bad reasons. You too are whistling past the graveyard. Jameis is gone and needs to stay gone.

    Hope you don’t make decisions for a group of people Rod Munch as NDOG would say…you are clueless if you think Winston wouldn’t be a distraction and frankly a pointless one.

    Plenty of back up QB’s are available who won’t create any stir and won’t throw 30 interceptions.

  16. 1sparkybuc Says:

    Rod, you are not alone. Brady is a bandaid. Jameis can and will reduce the turnovers, and no QB in franchise history has averaged 29 points a game. Starting over from scratch means another two or three year period of adjustment and points of strength now lost to retirement.

  17. Anonymous Says:

    It still goes on, hoping an ex-QB who turns he ball over at will backs up TB because no-one in the NFL considers him capable for their team. There would be continuous references by the JW supporters about how he would be better, just give him a chance.

    Remember why he was not re-signed – turnovers :-

    25 with clean pocket (most in NFL)
    23 within 1 possession (most)
    22 targeting WRs (most)
    19 when trailing (most)
    17 vs zone defenses (most)
    13 vs man defenses (most)
    13 vs blitz (most)
    11 on 3rd down (most)
    10 in 4th quarter (most)

    Let him go and move forward

    HE AIN’T COMING BACK

    I went to the London game last year and still have nightmares how he was not benched after pick nbr 3, and then went on to fumble and throw a further 2 int’s, you just cannot rely on if and when he does it again.

  18. Pete I Says:

    “Jameis can and will reduce the turnovers”

    When? Nothing to date suggests this is even remotely probable.

    2020 perhaps? Surely being a back up will certainly reduce turnovers.

    Hey, Keep the Jameis dream alive if it makes you guys happy. But currently the market for Jameis is ice-cold – there might be a reason for that. Why would TB choose to be the ice pick? No thanks, a rookie or vet back up will do just fine. I’m sure Jameis will be just fine…eventually.

  19. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Yeah Winston was entertaining you didn’t know if he would win the game or blow it on one play. I would rather the team win more games then be entertaining for non fans to watch.

  20. Defense Rules Says:

    Rod … Interesting notion to bring back Jameis as Brady’s ‘understudy’ but I seriously doubt that’s in BA’s plans. Phil Simms is right I believe in that BA had seen enough & gotten tired of the roller coaster. Besides, Brady doesn’t need the drama that’d come with having Jameis still here. Time to steady the ship; Brady’s in full command of the pirate ship.

    That said however, Bucs STILL need to find a backup QB who Arians has confidence in to lead us to the playoffs IF Brady goes down. He apparently doesn’t think that Griffin is the answer, and most Bucs’ fans probably feel that Gabbert isn’t the answer. Drafting a rookie QB might or might not be in BA’s plans, but the odds that a rookie could lead us to the Promised Land probably aren’t that high. Spending $4 mil or even $5 mil on a quality veteran backup QB would be money well spent IMO.

  21. Kgh4life Says:

    There is no question that Jameis Winston is one of the most talented QB’s in the NFL,however, he was too inconsistent. The inaccurate throws and the high number turnovers are too much for a team to overcome.

  22. Pete I Says:

    I see that two XFL QB’s have found jobs in the NFL. Before Winston?

    Things that make you go hmmm.

  23. Sharthappens Says:

    @robarsemunch: pipe down clown. Your criminal QB is gone and you should as well. Can we not all be happy that the turnover machine is gone? Brady will lead us to the glory land. He wants to prove to everyone that he , not Bill B, is the reason the Pats dynasty existed.

  24. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    “seems”…the NFL has too

  25. Buczilla Says:

    Brady will be awesome with these weapons as long as he is healthy. Dude is 43 (!) though and we need a strong backup just in case he goes down. Drafting a rookie outside of the first round is a must.

  26. MidwestBucsFan Says:

    Winston will absolutely cut down on the turnovers in 2020.

    …as he on pace to start little to no games for an NFL Team this upcoming season.

    #AmericasBackupQB

  27. Zwak Says:

    Bring Winston back as a backup!

  28. Joseph Mamma Says:

    Pete I Says:
    March 25th, 2020 at 5:50 am
    “Jameis can and will reduce the turnovers”

    When? Nothing to date suggests this is even remotely probable.

    2020 perhaps? Surely being a back up will certainly reduce turnovers.
    ——————————————————————–
    There is some evidence out there that suggests that the less you hike the ball to Jameis, less turnovers will be produced.

    When analyzing all the graphs, the data shows a direct correlation.

  29. Mark Reese Says:

    Sims mentions the three or four passes that game that get away from Jameis but doesn’t it seem logical that in a ‘ no risk it no biscuit’ offense where the passing game is predicated on 15 to 25 yard throws 3 or 4 throws a game will go awry? Isn’t it an inevitability if a quarterback throws the ball 40 times a game three or four will go awry? Simms is right that a lot of his passes missed high but with receivers that stand 6’5″ or 6’6″ ( Evans, brate, Howard) the quarterback would throw High so they don’t have to stoop down to get the ball. Lastly, how many of those passes that ‘ got away from’ Winston actually hit the receiver in the hands and bounced off straight to a defender? Just some food for thought that not everyone of Jameis 30 interceptions was his fault.

  30. Ndog Says:

    941bucsfan Says:
    March 25th, 2020 at 12:53 am
    Yea bridgewater is the definition of a game manager. And when your defense the first 8 games of the year was on pace for historic numbers, a game manager is not what we needed. Alot of facts being thrown around but there is one fact no matter what anyone says. The bucs were in position to win many games in the 4th qtr and either jameis threw a pick to end it, or the defense let someone go all the way down the field and win the game.

    Matt gay cost us 2 wins

    Defense cost us at minimum 2 wins.

    There is your 11 wins even with 30 from jameis… thats a fact

    941 notice how when you put the truth out there in be ever refutes it? They just talk around you, I wonder why that is and how they can live with themselves knowing they are telling themselves a lie everyday?

    Also you know what I love? It’s that early in the year with Arains was telling people the picks weren’t on Jameis they said he was covering for Jameis, but now that he saying, what the want him to say, he is just being honest. So which is it, is he a lier or is he honest?

  31. Alanbucsfan Says:

    Ndog-
    You left out Jameis cost 3 wins-
    49ers, Panthers in England, Texans
    And some might add Titans game and 2nd Falcons game
    It’s really pointless to keep arguing this

  32. BigHog Says:

    He is a liar…simple as that!!! ^^^

  33. D-Rome Says:

    The only people who think Jay-Miss should come back here as a backup are morons. We have all watched his ceiling. He won’t get better. Those three or four boneheaded throws a game will never go away.

    XFL quarterbacks are getting jobs before Jay-Miss. That speaks volumes.

  34. Ndog Says:

    Alanbucsfan Says:
    March 25th, 2020 at 8:14 am
    Ndog-
    You left out Jameis cost 3 wins-
    49ers, Panthers in England, Texans
    And some might add Titans game and 2nd Falcons game
    It’s really pointless to keep arguing this

    See this is what’s funny. First of all it’s not true that Jameis lost the 49ers game or Panthers game or Titans game or Atlanta game.

    We have been through this a thousand times BUT even if it were true why would I have to when you do it every second. The key is we had OTHER PARTS Of THE TEAM that lost games as well. That’s the point you guys just don’t get, you blame Jameis over and over and over and over and over and over again. When if he did nothing differently with no running game, getting beat to crap, in a brand new proven difficult offense if those pieces didn’t suck we would have been 11-5. This is what you people just will not admit when I will easily say Jameis made some Horrible throws like the first, second and last one vs Houston, or the 2nd vs Carolina, or the second one at Atlanta or the first one at Detroit but you guys just can’t admit that, for instance in the first 49er game Jameis had 2TDs called back due to penalty, OJ caused pick and fumbled another ball away in the redzone, Barber ran a crap route to cause the pick 6 and so on.

    One of us will tell the truth both ways the others are blinded by hate and the need to blame one person when in reality that is completely misguided.

  35. 813bucboi Says:

    alanbucfan

    I agree….

    JW cost us more game than the defense and kicker combined…..

    BA tried to coddle JW and it back fired….simple as that….

    every time BA came to JWs defense, most fans knew he was trying to protect JWs confidence…..but doing that only gave JW a false perception that he was “ballin”…..lol….no [email protected]$$….you’re “fallin”, as in out the league….

    JW is a BUST…simple as that….

    GO BUCS!!!!

  36. Ndog Says:

    See⬆️ proof one person (me) will tell the truth the other simply will not.

  37. Oneilbucs Says:

    Yep every thing needs changing now that Brady is here . Now the national media said we need a offensive line , a running game , and they need to change the playbook . Because now that Brady is here they don’t like the no risky no biscuit . Even Bruce Arians is talking about we need a 3 down runningback . But last year he said he doesn’t value runningbacks . The this they are saying about this team now they have never said that about Jamies . All I heard it was Jamies fault . Facts …..

  38. 813bucboi Says:

    ndog says:The key is we had OTHER PARTS Of THE TEAM that lost games as well.

    ok puppy….so apply that logic to JW….

    if we lost games because of “other parts of the team”, then we won games because of “other parts of the team”….lol…

    you sit up here and talk about JW and his 5k yards but who was calling the plays?….who was blocking?….who was making the catches?…..

    you talk about TDs being called back and OJ causing picks but you fail to realize how many INTs were dropped by DBs or how many INTs were called back due to penalties…..

    so despite what you may assume, obviously, BA and the largest staff in the NFL knew things wouldnt get any better JW and he wouldve had a repeat performance or gotten even worse…..

    you do realize JW wouldve been thrown the most INTs in back to back years had he not gotten benched or suspended…..lol….he had 14INTs in 13 games….the leader had 16….

    the funny thing is, fans like you ignore facts….the fact is every year JW played 16games, his INT total went up….

    JW IS A BUST!!!!!

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  39. Oneilbucs Says:

    And the crazy part about our fans is they act like that we had great quarterbacks here . This franchise has never developed a quarterback . So how can people call Jamies a bust when we never developed a quarterback . Every quarterback they drafted didn’t make it . When you see that maybe it’s not the quarterbacks maybe it’s the organization ..

  40. tickrdr Says:

    “No risk it, No biscuit”

    How many Bucs’ TD drives were more than 12 plays?
    How many Bucs” TD drives were 5 plays or less?
    I am not sure of the answer, but I believe the Bucs offense was intended to be a quick strike offense, in other words, it was not designed to “dink and dunk” down the field, mainly because Arians knew that the Bucs would turn the ball over or make a similar stupid play, preventing a long drive.

    I strongly believe the opposing defenses also knew that as well, and therefore sold out against the run, and tried to prevent “home run” balls, knowing that eventually a turnover or stupid play would ensue. They were right 35 plus times.

    tickrdr

  41. chris L Says:

    joe the whole mr. entertainment thing only works for fans of the league who care about fantasy or other teams than the bucs. i was not entertained by losing and interception after interception. if you call that entertainment and fun, dont ever bring up the lost decade because that has been losing but hey, at least we have been entertained by the circus!

    makes no sense to me

  42. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Ndog,

    1) – Jameis has NEVER been solely responsible for the losses that this team has had.

    AND

    2) – James has way too many turnovers, and it got to a point, that it was too much for us to overcome.

    BOTH things are TRUE.

    We had to move on at QB.
    We still have some other things to improve.

  43. Bucsfanman Says:

    I don’t understand the effort of some to continue supporting Winston. He’s not here anymore, and it’s for a reason. Not OUR reasons, the COACH’s reasons and the GM’s reasons.
    What is there to argue? The people who know the most decided to move on from him. That’s just cold, hard FACT. Arguing whether the league leader in turnovers cost us games, or the defense, or the coach, or the kicker is completely irrelevant.
    Whether Brady or Winston, this team knew it had to get better, better in ALL phases. They had to start somewhere and they started by signing their FA defensive linemen, then QB.
    This is how teams get better. No one will ever mistake Jameis Winston for Tom Brady, not now and maybe not ever.
    Get over it.

  44. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    2) – (Jameis)

  45. ATrain Says:

    JAMEIS HAD 5000 yrds

    33 TDs

    Jameis is GREAT AWESOME

    SOO YOU EDUCATED FANS WHYYYYYY???? Had no other NFL team jumped on him

    WHY

    Some of you speak as though YOU know more than ALL of the NFL executives
    ARE YOU KIDDING

    Obviously Jameis issues are bad enough NO ONE wants to touch him

  46. Sport Says:

    Tickrdr- the best analogy I’ve seen is giving a Ferrari to a teenager vs an adult, is it the cars fault (BA’s offense) or is it the teenager (JW).

    The adult is here (TB12), he said in a recent interview ‘throw to the open man and let him make a play’.

    The adult is here to drive the Ferrari.

    In BA I Trust!

  47. Craig Says:

    Some things you can’t unsee, like those last two games.

    Imagine Arians thinking Jameis has turned the corner, along with the rest of the team. He can go 9-7 in his first year. Then those last two games turned to a nightmare.

    This year, if in the same scenario, they will go 9-7. It will probably be better because there were three or four other games, earlier, that Jameis gave away.

    That makes Brady’s first year look like an 11-5 season

  48. Ndog Says:

    No one is supporting anyone we are telling the truth which people seem to be alergent to doing.

  49. Losing hope Says:

    Get over. Ur obsession w jaymiss. Hes gone . Bye bye good riddance

  50. Patrickbucs Says:

    Don’t worry Jameis is about to sign a huge contract when he’s done getting married according to Lamarcus.

  51. jjbucfan Says:

    Jameis is an enigma. He hasn’t signed because he has 30 million a year talent, but 8 million a year backup potential as well. What’s getting lost in this situation is that the Bucs did zero to help JW this year. You can say they improved the defense, but that didn’t happen until like week 9 or 10. They got a rookie kicker with a huge leg, who was directly responsible for 2 losses (2 missed Xtra points and 30 yard miss vs Giants and 3 missed FGs against Atlanta in final game). They got rid of a turnstile at RG and brought in a 3rd round Division 3 guy that couldn’t get on the field last year. Now this guy played very well and obviously was tough as nails, but still had problems early in the year. They did nothing to replace an aging RT. Because the line was so bad in the run game, Arians just gave up on it even when Jones showed some promise. They refused to get a 3rd down back that could run correct routes and could pass protect. He refused to gameplan the TEs into our offense. These were a huge part of JWs security blanket the last 4 years. Having said ALL that, the biggest failure for this past year was Arians handing the keys of the car over to an unproven OC before Arians ever drove it. Lefty was crap the first half of the season and was completely predictable for most of the year. He improved greatly towards the end, but it was too late for our Bucs. We had plenty of leads this year that the defense gave up because he got conservative (which our team was not built for). He never ran a short passing game to take the pressure off the o-line and run game. I think THOSE are the things that make fans crazy.

  52. DBS Says:

    Truth. As of right now Winston is out of the NFL and XFL QB’s are being picked up. There is a reason why and don’t blame it on BA because Winston did it to himself.

  53. Dr.Not For Long Says:

    We are so used to losing that we can’t even realize that we have a crappy quarterback we should have got rid of Jameis a long time ago but we’re too naive. Cuz we’re so used to losing..Any other City would have gotten rid of him a long time ago .They would have ran him out of town ! He would be better off playing baseball.

  54. sincethebeginning Says:

    @Bucsfanman you NAILED IT. Everybody go read that post again!

    I would like to suggest, also, to people who (like myself) are frustrated with all of the ongoing Jameis support, teeth gnashing, and general can’t-let-it-go level of butt hurt because he’s not coming back —

    It’s grief. Literally.

    People are grieving and working through the stages. Right now it’s still early. It’s anger time for most. People asking for him to remain as a backup are at the bargaining stage, a little farther along. Acceptance is still a very long ways away.

    Seriously, I know it’s annoying and frustrating to endure people going through this over a freaking QB, but I believe it’s a real thing. We all need to be patient and let the JW diehards work through this process.

  55. Tvan101 Says:

    The only reason I might ever leave this site is because people can’t stop talking about or defending winston Joe included. Let it go for [email protected]$k sakes. NDOG/Jameis I hope you go root for whatever team Jameis goes to because you are worthless as a Buccaneers fan.

  56. Mike Johnson Says:

    Nahhhh, Arians actually was pretty fond of Jameis. He was pullin for the guy. Those last 2 games did Jameis in. Those winnable games where Jameis really F’d up. Arians said he could still win with Jameis. And was probably going to do the same for him as he is doing for Brady..Solidifying his O line and giving him a new running weapon. A yr in backup mode somewhere is gonna do Jameis wonders. He will be back. And is probably going to be a much better QB because of his experiences with the Bucs.

  57. ATrain Says:

    JJ

    Bucs did nothing to help Jameis

    Umm the BEST two WR in NFL
    Two Best TE in the league

    How many teams in the playoffs had an elite passing and Running game???
    49s in SB not much in a passing game

    Also wanted to touch on another point

    We didn’t have a kicker
    Wait we count on the kicker to win games or the QB —- no kicker is making 30 million
    And as far as the Atlanta Game How many INTs did Jameis have
    And pick 6

  58. WestChap Says:

    No. No. No. The culture transfusion requires Winston to be fully purged… every copy of his eating W’s speech must be burned, every corner of his locker needs to be fumigated and then sprinkled with Brady pixie dust.

    Just like Suh did last year to GMC’s #93… although Suh doesn’t “sprinkle”… he just stomped all the McSoftieness out! 🙂

  59. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Atrain

    “Two best TE in the league”

    What did you just say???????

  60. Jack Karako Says:

    The NY/NJ J-e-t-s don’t have much (Mike White) behind Sam Darnold. Winston – under Adam Gase who coached Jay Cutler – may find the right match.

  61. CalBucsFan Says:

    I understand your perspective Rod Munch and can even agree with some of it, but bringing JW back just wouldn’t work, it’s just way too strange to think about JW standing on the sideline with cameras keying in on his reaction to everything TB does on the field.

    Frankly, it’s not only strange, but weird. It’s like my son-in-laws family. His mom’s been divorced twice, yet she and the family are so close to both of her ex’s so much that when we go over there for any event, whether it be a BBQ or a holiday, all 3 of her husbands, 2 with their new wives and kids, are there too! Geez , they still exchange gifts at the holidays! That is just Adam’s family weird!

    Divorce is divorce, the relationship’s broke, it didn’t work, it couldn’t be fixed, it’s over! Ex’s shouldn’t be hanging out with the current family and breaking bread! And, neither should former starting QBs for 5-yrs. as young as JW be standing on the sidelines waiting for the day…..damn Rod, that’s creepy!