“I Haven’t Talked To Him”

March 10th, 2020

So Jameis Winston had two surgeries this offseason and Bucco Bruce Arians says he hasn’t talked to him.

And, via the video below, Arians seems to go out of his way to say those surgeries didn’t affect Jameis on the football field.

Start watching at the 1-minute mark of the WFLA-TV, Ch. 8, video and make your own judgment. Sports chief and Bucs preseason sideline reporter Dan Lucas asks Arians about Jameis’ procedures (knee and Lasik surgery) and Arians twice appears to wave off any inference that Jameis had any physical issue that impacted his play.

The cold shoulder display over the past two weeks from Bucs officials (and those tied to the Bucs) when it comes to Jameis is just a grand negotiating tactic, some say.

Joe disagrees.

Oh, it may look that way in the end, but there is no reason to think the team is that smart or calculating or, as some might conclude, downright harsh.

58 Responses to ““I Haven’t Talked To Him””

  1. Bruce Blahak Says:

    He’s gone, and it will be GLORIOUS!!!!!

  2. Umm Says:

    Breaking news. There will be no signings announced until Monday the 16th. All the news articles until Sunday night the 15th are smoke and mirrors

  3. Robert Says:

    breaking news, BA is done with jw……..even for 10 mill.

    he will not be under center next year. at least BA knows a loser AND gave him the rope to ….. himself. this is on jw.

    thank you BA!!!!!!!!

  4. BucBoy Says:

    Jameis isn’t going anywhere!!!!

  5. El Buco Realisto Says:

    The “real” fans tried to tell the sheep long ago of how it really went down!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its time for the much requested “Realist Repost”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    El Buco Realisto Says:
    February 16th, 2020 at 8:47 am
    Ole stale biscuit has to be wondering how he got stuck in this situation!!!!!!! “Word on the street”, is that ole stale biscuit knows he can’t fix jay-miss!!!!! But he can’t jay-miss walk away, because then all the fans will ask why licht Wright is still the GM???? And why is stale biscuit here just to retire in a year!!!!! And why draft a new qb to fit ole stale biscuit’s when ole stale biscuit is leaving in a year or so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So the only solution, was sign “blameless” cheap, and sign free-agent in hope that the roster was finally good enough to “DRAG” jay-miss to meaningful games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And when Jay-miss’s camp released that they wanted 30 million, ole stale biscuit was p!$$3[ !!!!!!!!!!!!! He was a new shade of purple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So now ole stale biscuit sits in a “no win” situation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. SmoothBayRider Says:

    I’m just here to laugh at NDog’s comments .

  7. ModHairKen Says:

    That’s some cold business, right there. Did not even call the man? Why not? Whelp, he’s really gone.

  8. DBS Says:

    If he was that injured the medical staff wouldn’t have allowed him on the field.. It would not have even gotten as far as the coach. It’s just more excuses for people to use for his bad play and poor decisions.

  9. El Buco Realisto Says:


    Not true!!!!!!!!!!!!! “Word on the street” is that ole stale bucs did “call” jay-lose all kinds of names!!!!!!!! Bruce Arrogance just did not “call” him on the phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. catcard202 Says:

    “Yes, we can win with Jameis…But as GM & HC, we have to see if there is a better option out there”…. (IE…This is a Business Decision -MONEY- vs Talent concern.)

  11. BucsFIRE Says:

    SmoothBayRider Says:
    “I’m just here to laugh at NDog’s comments .”

    Everyone else is here to laugh at yours.

  12. Thisisouryear!! Says:

    I think Jameis is gone. It says a lot to me that Arians isn’t speaking to his QB. A lot like McCoy last year. With the surgeries, Jameis is trying to save his career showing the problem could be this, this or this. Look I fixed it (advice from his agent).

    I’m not all in on Brady. Being 43, it reminds me of Payton Manning going to the Broncos. That super bowl season, the zip on the ball was not there. It seems like I’m one of the only ones but I would pick Dalton first and then Bridgewater or Carr. I think Dalton is the best match to Arians and he has a brain. Go Bucs!!

  13. Thisisouryear!! Says:

    And I don’t mean Winston doesn’t have a brain, but I think Dalton plays a lot smarter.

  14. Alaskan Abdominal Snowman Says:

    I really wish I could see all of your faces when you come to Joebucsfan during your morning squat and read JBOO is back for 2020!
    catcard gets it….the only way Jameis is out is if he prices himself out.

  15. Dewey Selmon Says:

    That’s the most damning thing I have read. That’s beyond a negotiating tactic. For the first time I’m coming to the realization Jameis won’t be back. Some of the most exciting and frustrating years in Buccaneer history. If you sign Bridgewater or Carr you don’t have to draft a QB this year. I’d pick one if they fell in my lap but I would take a flyer for Anthony Gordon 5th rd. Phillip Rivers put more stress to draft one this year.

  16. Mr. Reality Says:

    Arians is soon to join NDog’s list of clueless people.

    Hey, at least it wasn’t Ndog who was the moron who was on here a day or so ago saying Brady was a “risky” move. LOL.

  17. Bird Says:

    Bucs fire

    Way to stick up for your FSU brethren
    Kudos to you

  18. Bird Says:

    He gave this same cold shoulder to Mccoy and we know how that ended up
    Not sure this is tough love anymore
    If it is ….he may behest poker player on planet to get him to take peanuts.
    I mean he is already in jameis head which is not good
    Lack of trust

  19. Matthew Fifer Says:

    BucBoy Says:
    March 10th, 2020 at 2:20 pm
    Jameis isn’t going anywhere!!!!


    That’s correct, he will remain in Tampa Bay…..as the new backup QB of the Tampa Bay Vipers :).

  20. LordCornelius Says:

    The fact that he said “As the head coach & GM we have to say we can win with Jameis”

    He’s basically admitting that line is just a PR move at this point. If Jameis comes back it’s going to be for cheap or not at all, and with a short leash at this point.

    As per Realist’s crazy ramblings I just have to say this:

    1. The owners – The Glazers – and their front office decisions – have been the biggest problem with the franchise. I have absolutely no effing idea why he wants to celebrate them firing a staff, when it’s almost guarenteed their next hire would be worse. The only way firing a staff is good is if you bring in an improved staff.

    2. The GM – Licht – hasn’t been a true GM and I really have no idea who pulled the triggers on what, but if you look at every draft the players have very close ties to the philophies of the coaching staff. If he truly has had 100% control the whole time he has sucked hard.

    3. The Glazers kept Licht as a selling point to get Bruce Arians imo. Otherwise we may have seen a total house cleaning at that point. But BA liked Licht , the roster, & thought he could work with Winston.

    4. Ultimatley Winston did not do what was needed and did not excel in the system as BA may have hoped, especially with how he trended to end the year. BA is cutting his losses there at this point.

    Basically Realist is assuming ANY hire will be better than Bruce Arians & company. I doubt it. Bruce Arians has a track record of positive success across multiple organizations while the Glazers have a track record of suck.

  21. BucsFIRE Says:

    Bird Says:
    “Bucs fire
    Way to stick up for your FSU brethren”

    I did not attend Florida State University, and I did not stick up for anyone.

  22. Major Says:

    The Bucs have been one of the worst teams in all of the NFL. Whats more, many of the Buc fans are delusional. The team has, for the most part, stunk it up for their entire existence. Quarterbacks that have left the Bucs have gone on to win. Doug Williams, Steve Young, Trent Dilfer to name a few. Jameis should leave the Bucs to win. There is no O-line, or running game. When the Buc’s needed a running back they went after OJ Howard and he has done almost nothing. Jameis is a winner, and he works hard at his craft and blames no one. He was hurt and he played through it. He has had vision issues since FSU no one corrected it. Still he has won everywhere, he has put up numbers, and he will succeed in this NFL.

  23. BucsFIRE Says:

    B.i.r.d. says
    “Bucs fire
    Way to stick up for your FSU brethren”

    I did not attend Florida State University, and I didn’t stick up for anyone.

  24. Alanbucsfan Says:

    He didn’t even send him a Tastycake.

  25. Bird Says:

    Yah right

  26. LordCornelius Says:

    “Still he has won everywhere, he has put up numbers, and he will succeed in this NFL.”

    His NFL record is 28 Wins / 42 Losses (.400) with 0 playoff appearances in 5 seasons. So no he has not won everywhere.

    I agree with anyone that said he went to one of the worst franchises in the NFL though, and that may have held him back from winning earlier on and playing a more balanced brand of football.

    Most QBs that go to really bad teams with horrible defenses and/or O-lines, have had bad careers that could have possibly been better in a better situation. But there were no excuses for 10 picks in the final 4 games with how our team was playing, and for him to be that far into the offense / season, and that far into his career doing that.

  27. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Man I can’t wait to see how Ndog will respond to this one.

  28. tmaxcon Says:

    Tampa bay Buccaneers the only organization in professional sports that more resembles a Jerry Springer season…. ba and licht will set this already laughable franchise back another 2 decades. Bucs and bucfan have less credibility than harvey Weinstein less class as well

  29. adam from ny Says:

    if arians didn’t throw jameis a call or text after multiple surgeries to even well wish the dude, then this relationship is over…

    arians went from loving him like a son, to treating him like a red headed step child…

    arians is a wild dude…

    jameis might not even want to work with arians anymore…

    even if jameis re-signs, arians has played him, and it’s no longer a “let’s ride together” type situation…

    if jameis japped him upside the head in the locker room next season, i wouldn’t be shocked at all…

    if they are together next season, it’s no more a lovey dovey, give each other a gund bear for valentine’s day type thing…

    jameis now know arians doesn’t have his back whatsoever

  30. NutterBuccer Says:

    Winston very rarely posts on social media…hes been posting non stop about his knee and how its in gods hands etc…hes done as a buc.

  31. Allbuccedup Says:

    He did the same thing with McCoy cold shoulder. Bye Bye Jameis.

  32. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    You guys know Jameis had a chance. Also it’s an outright false statement to say “Arians didn’t have his back” he had his back all year. he showed no improvement and blew the last two games.

    This is where he went out and after blowing two back to back games (yes nuthuggers blame the kicker more and more and more for the poor QB play) He tells the media “I’m ballin check yo sheet, I just need to protect the football better” I think this was the last straw. Arians defended him, supported him shielded him and threw other players under the bus for him all year. Hell he even backed him up in that atrocious Carolina game he should have lost his starting job for playing that poorly.

    Overall I am sure the “I’m ballin” statement and thinking he was worth 30 million a year was the last straw. Arians couldn’t defend a man that couldn’t help himself anymore

  33. BucEmUp Says:

    Carlton wasnt a rookie last year….but this guy thought so

  34. EEK Says:

    The last 2 games of the season sealed his fate.

    No amount of time will make that pain go away.

    The pick 6 in OT as the last play of the season is not something that Winston can come back from after all of the other disappointments.

    Winston is likely done as a starter — definitely done in Tampa (in my opinion).

    Don’t forget BA! Don’t forget how terrible it felt to end the season so horribly.

  35. ATrain Says:

    No Way a Veteran NFL coach such as Bruce would ever pass on Jamies

    Does Bruce not read the educated post of NFOG …

    NFog said Jamies is a ProBowl QB WHY would Bruce give him up

    Do You think Bruce knows more than NFog???

    No Way

  36. Hethrew 30 Says:

    Ndog thinks Arians is clueless. Classic.

  37. BucsFIRE Says:

    ^ You talk about “educated post” and then can’t spell.
    It is not Jamies, last time I checked.

  38. Hethrew 30 Says:

    This doesn’t pass the sanity check for any possibility of the Bucs tagging him. Why would they give him a cold shoulder like this (which he deserves) and then say, Oh yeah, let’s not let him get away. Further, if Winston is all butt hurt over being treated as he deserves to be, with indifference, WHEN (not if) Winston comes crawling back all humble and begging, would they sign him, and would he want to come back?

    It’s taken five years, but Jameis L. Winston has finally arrived at the scene of the wreck he created.

  39. Hamsadwitchtime Says:

    @@robert glad you talk with Bucs brass to keep us informed… lmao

  40. El Buco Realisto Says:


    If there is any extra money in the coffers, have your graphic’s guy make a gif of Ole Stale Biscuit, running over jay-miss over in his golf cart!!!!!!!!!! The “real” fans promise that you will get much use with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  41. gotbbucs Says:

    Basically, he’s too old to piss around with nincompoop’s. If you can’t do enough to help the team win then there’s no sense in wasting time on you.

    I just think the guy gives zero F’s about these guys fragile little feelings anymore. They get paid stupid money to play a game, and on top of that they need their ego’s constantly stroked? Arians might be a players coach sometimes, but he’s still pretty old school. Some players can take it, some can’t.
    I just don’t think anything gets through to Winston, I think Arians learn that Jameis is a sociopath.

  42. Couch Fan Says:

    All I want for my B-Day on Sunday is a new QB on Monday. Make it happen Bruce.

  43. Craig Says:

    Jameis is going to price himself out of the Tampa market. Arians isn’t going to go along with Licht on this one. Maybe Licht can now see the writing on the football, I am not sure of that.

    Technically, by the current CBA, coaches are not allowed to contact players on a social basis. Still, if he was coming back, a health call can be done. It wasn’t but we don’t have much more of a wait.

  44. gp Says:

    SmoothBayRider Says:
    March 10th, 2020 at 2:28 pm

    I’m just here to laugh at NDog’s comments .

    Get a clue

    The vast majority who visit this site are readers who want to keep up with the latest news about their team.

    Most do not post.

    They do, however, enjoy a few of the posters who do.

    The rest are either laughed at, or met with a sad shake of the head, or simply passed over having proven themselves unworthy of reading.

    And then there are those who sneak their opinions in by changing their moniker on a somewhat frequent basis.

  45. ATrain Says:

    Mr Fire

    I guess you can not read

    I said NFog’s educated post

    Oh I also Apologize I spelled your hero’s name wrong JAMEIS


    You must be one who is smarter about the NFL than the man they play millions to make team decisions

    I wonder what position do you hold with an NFL team???

  46. Jameishas2go Says:

    I don’t take pleasure if Jameis is gone and I do wish him the best if he does continue his career elsewhere. But, if the Bucs have decided to cut bait on Jameis, I would think they have a pretty good idea who is going to be coming in to replace him. It would be malfeasance to give up Jameis without an adequate replacement in place.

    I also agree with Joe, for once. I don’t think the Bucs, specifically Bruce Arians, would take this posture as a negotiation tactic. I think Jameis is likely gone, since they have decided to franchise Barrett and not Jameis.

    But this could blow up in their face if they do not have a rock solid agreement with a replacement. I don’t know any Buc fan that wants them to go into next season with a rookie starting because they whiffed in free agency.

  47. Chesapeake Bay Bucco Says:

    Stand by, this dead period is almost over!

  48. stpetebucsfan Says:

    It wasn’t the sheer volume or number of JW’s mistakes..it was also their timing.

    In fact over his career it seems JW has timing problems. And yeah those last two games sealed it but it wasn’t JUST the pick six to start OT in the final game of the season with a chance to go .500…that was just the exclamation point…

    Just as jarring and rarely mentioned is the fact our vaunted offense put up three points in four quarters of second half football those final two games. 3 whole points…that just doesn’t cut it…9 or 12 points wouldn’t have cut it either unless we won both games!!! You pay a guy 30 million plus to score TDs not to get a FG kicker into position!!!!!

  49. Isaac haggins Says:

    Well they had better have a for sure qb plan by Sun because come mon or tues the F A talks will suffer uhhhhh , BIG time without a qb !!!

  50. Tye Says:

    It sure seems as though Arians has mentally checked out concerning JW…
    Doesn’t seem as though he couldn’t care less what happens with JW from now on because his future plans doesn’t include JW…
    This next week will finally shed light on the truth..
    Either we will have hope for a winning season OR they keep JW and it will be awkward for the next few months..

  51. WestChap Says:

    The Jameis Fan Club has got to cool it… he’ll get another chance somewhere and then you can reconvene the festivities on their website. Enjoy.

  52. Oneilbucs Says:

    Man I hope he’s gone . So when the next quarterback comes in I don’t want to here about how bad our runninggame is or defense . We should go to the superbowl . Because according to this fanbase we just need Jamies to go and as long as Jamies is gone we will be a superbowl team lol lol lol . This franchise has never developed a quarterback what makes you think it’s going to change when Jamies leave lol lol lol lol ??? This franchise and this fanbase is a Joke . I garoteain we ain’t going to no playoffs this year . BA is a joke to me as well . All he does is talk a good game but he don’t care about this team winning he just wants to collect a check lol lol . Think about how he was with the cardinals . He made sure he produced a running game and now he don’t value a running game lol lol BA got all of yall fooled lol lol lol .

  53. Tye Says:

    If only it will go down like that.. I’m sure it will be a few months for the Jameis Fans to fade away…Once the Bucs announce they have moved on, many of Jameis fans will likely keep mentioning him on here just for spite… Obsessed…

  54. D1 Says:


    Count on it!

    Every single game, real time, there will be the crowd who hypes up every int, missed throw, whatever. They will act just as a scorned lover will act towards their x. Just as they did during the Fitzpatrick starts. And they’ll do so without a modicum of humility or embarrassment.

  55. Noles Says:

    I did attend & graduate from FSU & I give JW a big thumbs down…..


    But draft Cam Akers….

  56. Noles Says:


    Speak for yourself with that Harvey Weinstein BS…

    YOUR POST ARE A JOKE…. you are not a BUCS FAN….

    While being a 3rd generation Tampanian and knowing the true pain of rooting for this franchise, I still try to remain optimistic…

    Every post you have is completely negative, how can we be sure you are not Jamies… you are a joke

  57. BucsFIRE Says:

    ATrain Says:
    “I wonder what position do you hold with an NFL team???”

    I don’t have to hold an NFL position to be able to spell.

  58. Vadertime Says:

    Bring in the new band.