New Detail Emerges On Jameis Winston’s Knee
February 28th, 2020
Old news has now become new news.
About three weeks ago, reports came down that Jameis Winston had a late-season meniscus issue that was surgically repaired early this year.
Today NFL Network insider Ian Rapoport said Jameis’ meniscus was “trimmed” and Jameis “refused to sit” when he was injured. Presumably, Jameis was given the option to sit and decided to play through any pain or swelling, assuming he had any.
Does that add context to the season, as Rapoport suggests? Joe can’t answer that.
General manager Jason Licht was asked about Jameis’ surgery at the NFL Scouting Combine this week and he didn’t want to talk about it. Licht seemed nervous (Joe was standing next to him) and said something about not wanting to report on every injury (as if this was a minor procedure to, say, Earl Watford. Licht also added that Jameis would be a good guy to talk to about it.
Yes, Jameis is tough and has played through injuries in previous years. However, one also could call Jameis injury prone.
Per the Bucs and the eye test, Jameis’ on-field issues come via decision-making. Whether injury was a factor is unclear and will continue to be.
From NFL Now: Toughness can be overlooked, so worth noting that #Bucs QB Jameis Winston not only played through a broken thumb but also a torn meniscus that he had trimmed. And he refused to sit, adding context to his season. pic.twitter.com/ucgR5rVGTQ
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) February 28, 2020
February 28th, 2020 at 4:31 pm
Its very easy to be injury prone playing behind that offensive line for the last 5 years. Guy takes a beating!!!
February 28th, 2020 at 4:31 pm
short of a labotomy it is irrelevant. JPP is tough, Connor McGregor is tough….doesn’t mean they are starting QB material.
just more excuse. just end it already. release him.
February 28th, 2020 at 4:31 pm
Ugh, the dichotomy that is Jameis Winston. Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t. Will miss him if he’s gone but will be happy if we’re winning too.
February 28th, 2020 at 4:33 pm
Everyone is way too tough in jameis. Fans need to chill. I can almost guarantee he improves next year if in the same system again
February 28th, 2020 at 4:35 pm
@dr buc….you do know the definition of insanity right?
February 28th, 2020 at 4:37 pm
So now he is injury prone? How about anyone who has to play behind that line probably gonna get beat down. Donovan smith is the left tackle. Go figure
February 28th, 2020 at 4:42 pm
Any QB would be considered “injury prone” behind this oline. If Jameis didn’t have escape ability and durability, he would never make it through a whole season.
Yeah, yeah but the line is solid.
Then tell me why I can’t count to 2 or why Jameis can’t finish his drops without having to move out of the pocket. The eye doesn’t lie.
February 28th, 2020 at 4:49 pm
These cowards have an orchestrated campaign to make Jameis look bad.
I’ve never seen such pathetic cowardliness in my life.
Today I am ashamed to be a Bucs fan.
And the point is what? The guy played through injury without his top two receivers- bad thumb and knee.
Because you are known to coach these guys to toughen up and play hurt.
This guy played his ass off for you all year and ten gets the knife in the back
You’ve never really had his back
#1 in passing
You took away his two comfort targets in Humph and
Brate
Hypocrisy at its height
BA and Licht are sleeze.
February 28th, 2020 at 4:52 pm
Jamies thumb.
Jamies had eye surgery
NOW we here he had a knee issue
SOUNDS LIKE THE book of excuses are running low and we have to put more stuff out there
50%of this fan base has listen to the excuses
Listen to the Next Year he gets better (he’s rating wen down the last two years)
Last year was prove it year ( he proved he can throw INT)
Now More next year he will be better in this system Hard system to learn
HOW MANY YEARS do we wait JOE
Last year was it but he failed. Except 5000 he has nothing
February 28th, 2020 at 5:00 pm
It’s funny so funny but tell me when do a team stand up and protect the players from themselves! “Whisper” the kid went out there and gave his all for you and you knew he was injured yet you said nothing this is your out smh! Used car salesman is the Bucs head coach oh and he trust Blaine lol! Wake up people!
February 28th, 2020 at 5:02 pm
I don’t want to hear any nonsense about toughness or his love of the game. In fact, if he was so banged up he should have opted to end his season. If he sits because of injuries and when the Bucs were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs his season would be perceived to end on a high note. As far as I’m concerned he played his way out of a lucrative long term deal for himself and his family.
February 28th, 2020 at 5:03 pm
No surgery can fix his decision making
February 28th, 2020 at 5:11 pm
“He refused to sit”? Used to be a time when the HC said ‘Sit’ then you sat. If Jameis was hurt in those last 2 games he had no business playing. Sure didn’t help the team any.
February 28th, 2020 at 5:11 pm
Sometimes I wonder how you people live with yourselves…
February 28th, 2020 at 5:13 pm
Noles and “franchise QB slurper” fans pre 2015 draft: “A franchise QB like Winston instantly makes the offensive line better.” 2020? Jameis has no chance behind that offensive line. Where was that defense for the “non-franchise QB’s”?
February 28th, 2020 at 5:16 pm
I’ll say this for #3, he’s been the most privileged QB in Buccaneer history. His turnover ratio quadruples any other QB in history, and now the fans want to start blaming the offensive line. Correction: The “franchise QB” slurper fans and Noles fans. Again, the most privileged Buccaneer QB in history.
February 28th, 2020 at 5:17 pm
Waiting for the electro shock therapy to be installed in his helmet to ween him off turnovers..
February 28th, 2020 at 5:23 pm
Hey JayMiss,
I just checked my sheet……
Says “you done” son.
Good riddance.
February 28th, 2020 at 5:25 pm
Colts vetting Rivers.
Brady ain’t coming.
If those two are not possible who do the haters want to replace Jameis again?
February 28th, 2020 at 5:26 pm
Carr
Carr
Carr
February 28th, 2020 at 5:31 pm
Ah ok Carr. Forgot about him.
February 28th, 2020 at 5:52 pm
So…….what is it….a knee, vision, the wind…..receivers down…..no running game….the defense….oline…..new system….too many coaches in his head….fear of a good backup?
I think it’s simply turnovers vs yardage & TDs….vs money!!!
February 28th, 2020 at 6:00 pm
Playing thru injuries…shows mental toughness….so why all the hate? …ask yourself…I already know!!
February 28th, 2020 at 6:03 pm
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah can’t wait until he’s gone!
February 28th, 2020 at 6:16 pm
He had a reason to be scared for his job, but that is no reason to pad his personal stats while dragging the team down.
It is just like those employees that come to work with the flu. It helps nobody and hinders the company.
February 28th, 2020 at 6:20 pm
BigHog it doess make you question where all this hatred comes from. Jameis has all the traits they claim to want in a player: hard worker (first one in at OneBuc every day), will to win (unlike GMC he isn’t laughing and joking around after a loss), leader (despite what the haters say his teammates say he is a strong leader), extremely talented (you don’t lead a team without a running game to a top 3 offense without talent). If Jameis stays they will be in the playoffs next year. If he’s gone they may be in for a year if they get Brady or Rivers, and then they’re dumpster diving again for a QB a year or two from now. We need to franchise him and bring him back now that the defense seems to have finally turned the corner.
February 28th, 2020 at 6:31 pm
Hey Nuthuggers…
He sucks.
It’s really that simple.
He makes our team worse.
He needs to go.
Don’t insinuate race Big Slob.
February 28th, 2020 at 6:36 pm
JW has earned everything thing he has gotten. Including a shot at testing the free agency market.
In wonder if the Bucs have had discussions with Luck? That would be an interesting twist.
In BA I Trust!
February 28th, 2020 at 7:06 pm
@doosh you’re once again proving your screen name is more than just thatm Please tell is why you rave about wins and losses on a qb and want a guy in Car who has the MOST losses by a starting qb the last 5 years? Jameis would have to go 3-13 this year to even get to carrs loses.
February 28th, 2020 at 7:10 pm
Why are people asking for Derek Carr after complaints about Jameis? Jameis turns the ball over and Derek Carr is completely inept at the end of games. I guess Jameis’ .400 win percentage isn’t good, but neither is Derek Carr’s .418. Older guy with less talent, nominal win percentage improvement. So teach a less talented guy the new offense, losing this year, save no money (veteran contract), and go from a 50/50 td turnover chance to just plain no chance. It’s fine to say Jameis sucks, but to think he does without admitting that Derek Carr sucks more shows that it is not objective evaluation, just straight hatin’.
February 28th, 2020 at 7:21 pm
The face of a NFL franchise… a face only Ndog and his posse of FSU slurpers could love
February 28th, 2020 at 7:29 pm
His toughness can’t be questioned… that’s for sure..
There is however the other side unfortunately..
February 28th, 2020 at 7:35 pm
@doosh you’re exposing your lack of football iq. Guess your screen name is more than that. You want carr why? Im sure in all your wisdom you realize carr has the most losses through his first 6 seasoms in nfl history right? I thought it was all about wins and loses with you genius?
February 28th, 2020 at 8:02 pm
Stop with the ‘definition if insanity thing in terms with Jameis or any other buc.
Its getting old and you obviously don’t know what it actually means. Huge pet peeve of mine. So let me inform you:
Definition of insanity
1 a severely disordered state of the mind usually occurring as a specific disorder
2 unsoundness of mind or lack of the ability to understand that prevents one from having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular relationship, status, or transaction or that releases one from criminal or civil responsibility
3a: extreme folly or unreasonableness
3b: something utterly foolish or unreasonable
So using the actual definition of insanity I have determined that 90% of the people posting in the comment field of any Jameis Winston article are nuts.
February 28th, 2020 at 8:17 pm
Too many Doosh,larues in here. You can’t “suck” and lead the league in passing yards. JW is top ten in TD’s, TD%, and yards since being drafted. He throws too many interceptions, but is elite in many other categories. The hate is mental for the franchise leader in passing. He may end up with the win record after this year too, only 10 away.
February 28th, 2020 at 8:20 pm
Winston can have every surgery and procedure in the world, but the only one that will keep him from being a Human Turnovers Machine is a Lobotomy
February 28th, 2020 at 8:29 pm
JW3 going to the Pro-Bowl in 2020…Wait & see.
February 28th, 2020 at 8:32 pm
Nice Brian. Spoke like a true moron.
February 28th, 2020 at 8:33 pm
With the 14th pick in the 2030 NFL DRAFT the TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS select Micheal Cornerback from East 🗑 LICHT University.
February 28th, 2020 at 8:41 pm
Haha and you all think we can just add Brady behind that line. Sending Jameis on his way will be a huge mistake. Bring Jameis back!! Go Bucs!
February 28th, 2020 at 8:46 pm
This is a nightmare that continues, I will never trust Trash 🗑 man to buy the groceries. Incompetent an absolute disgrace. What reason have I been given to trust or even be optimistic. This man is a coward.
February 28th, 2020 at 8:51 pm
Duh, O line sucks c**k
February 28th, 2020 at 8:51 pm
Robert-repeating something over and over that are untrue.
Insanity- The state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.
To be clear, insanity is a legal term pertaining to a defendant’s ability to determine right from wrong when a crime is committed. Here’s the first sentence of law.com’s
From AA literature:
The INSANITY of ALCOHOLISM is the alcoholic’s persistent return to alcohol in the face of overwhelming evidence that it is destroying his or her life, over and over again.
February 28th, 2020 at 8:54 pm
When Winston walks away to another team our team history says we are in for 3-5 years of searching for the “right QB.”
February 28th, 2020 at 9:07 pm
I got Famous Jameis returning. Surround him with a great Defense. Arians knows this. That’s why he says he’s keeping this D intact. Get us a better running game with an O lineman and another RB and we will be fine. Jameis throws so GD much because we..are playing a lot..from behind.
February 28th, 2020 at 9:23 pm
You could call Jameis injury prone, but it would be more appropriate to call the offensive line SH@&$TY.
February 28th, 2020 at 9:42 pm
Dude has the heart and work ethic as good as anyone who’s ever played.Torn knee, broken hand, bad eyes, no run game the list goes on, first year in a new system.It would be beyond idiotic to not bring this guy back and the ONLY team dumb enough to do it I fear are our Bucs.
Please don’t screw this up !!!!!!!
February 28th, 2020 at 10:29 pm
I just can’t understand how it’s “idiotic” to get rid of the most turnovers in football since 2015, with a $30 million price tag. No thank you.
The team is better with half the turnovers, a league average mark, and 2/3 the yards.
Turnovers are costly, hence no playoffs the last five campaigns.
February 28th, 2020 at 10:30 pm
Fellas there is a reason we are one of the worst pro sports franchises of all time. It’s acting like this, making decisions like this and simply screwing up at every turn that gets you to a record like this. So yes they are going to mess it up, it’s simply what they do.
February 28th, 2020 at 10:43 pm
Ndog,
We won a super bowl. We can say that.
We put five years in with Jameis. What makes you think he’s going to correct the turnovers and lead a team to the playoffs? It’s less likely to happen at this point in time. I wish that wasn’t the case, but it is.
February 28th, 2020 at 11:00 pm
His hand didn’t work right
His knee didn’t work right
His eyes didn’t work right
Yet he threw for 5000 yards and 30 touchdowns
But all of those interceptions were caused by his injuries
Does that sound right?
February 29th, 2020 at 2:01 am
There is no QB who can take us this year to the playoffs in the first year running BA’s complicated Offense. But Jameis in his second year can get back at least to his earlier 15 turnovers this year and with our excellent Defense can take us to the playoffs. The only reason the Bucs have been trying to find another QB is because of the amount of money Jameis’ agent is spouting.
February 29th, 2020 at 3:15 am
Cmon, steve. Wheres the continuity to help him succeed? From coaches, wide receivers, and paltry o-line play, you CAN NOT be that dense.
February 29th, 2020 at 3:23 am
With half the turnovers and 2/3 the yards (in the passing game)…your talking about a 4 win 12 lose season st best….bring back Mr. 5,000 …it’s the right thing to do!!!
February 29th, 2020 at 5:59 am
Big hog,
No sir. Half the turnovers would increase the wins. We’d need less yards bc we’d take better care of the ball. It’s all relative.
February 29th, 2020 at 7:15 am
Teal,
Honestly, Jane is has been given more than most QBs and it didn’t work. Remember “weapons for Winston”, and last year the Bucs had the only oline with 3 guys making $10+ million.
Tired of excuses. Wake up and smell the turnovers. It’s not ok to suck.
February 29th, 2020 at 9:12 am
BigHog,
I’m not sure if you believe everything is about race or you’re just try to troll, but it’s old. Just because people think the Bucs are better off with another qb doesn’t make people racist. I remember just as many people wanting Dilfer out of here. Do you know why they wanted Dilfer out? You guessed it, INTERCEPTIONS! Get a life BigHog!
February 29th, 2020 at 9:37 am
Of course Jameis wanted to play through the injury. That’s what football players do. It is up to the coach to say “You’re not m.j playing this week.” Why did Arians put him out there for those last two meaningless games? I can see you if the Bucs were fighting for a playoff spot.
February 29th, 2020 at 9:41 am
#teamjameis
February 29th, 2020 at 11:01 am
Steven Stamkos was out for 4 months after his meniscus tear.
February 29th, 2020 at 12:15 pm
its worse than a soap opera…..
February 29th, 2020 at 3:14 pm
First comment on this site ever.
In all honesty if Matt Gay had not missed against Giants and Falcons (three times) we would be 9-7, Jameis would have a winning record with 29 INTs and 6 pick-six. Not great but still we would not be having this discussion.
Also 1) the offensive line clearly struggled (I hate Donovan Smiths deal), 2) the running game was dismal putting pressure on QB, 3) top WRs were out in last games, 4) BAs system was new with TEs mainly blocking, 5) Jameis played with a broken thumb, 6) the referees calls didn’t really come out as a net positive for us, 7) Jameis had a busted knee, 8) the team took many stupid penalties wiping put positive plays and bringing long plays
I could go on but if we had won against Titans and/or Seahawks (which we should have) and Matt had not missed four crucial kicks we would probably made the play-offs.
February 29th, 2020 at 4:01 pm
injury prone? yes, in the same way that Joe Theismann was “injury prone”.
gimme a break, Winston is a lot of things, but it’s not like he crumbles at the sight of a distant defender, like Mariota.
February 29th, 2020 at 7:30 pm
Do you people remember all the great QBs that let or got traded. Maybe some of you are too young. Speaking of Young put Steve in from of Young. And we had him. Seems like all the greats comes from Tampa. How would you feel if Jameson went to another team and becomes great. I went to the first bucs game and seen a guy named Doug Willams throw a football from endzone to endzone. That was in 1976 . You give up to easy.
February 29th, 2020 at 8:11 pm
I can’t wait to see Mr. Winston hoist a Lombardi trophy in a different NFL uniform. Mark my words, Jameis-hater nation…its going to happen (Williams, Young, Dilfer and Winston)! I’m going to laugh till i cry…CAN’T WAIT!!!
February 29th, 2020 at 10:29 pm
TJ…another fake casual fan probably uneducated that wears a gamertag to work.
Garbage fans.
March 1st, 2020 at 8:05 am
Elway didn’t win it all till #30 came along. The same for Favre (#25). And this the same HOFamer who threw the most ints in league history
The point is my fellow Bucs fans,is that these 2 great football players didn’t win it all till they possess a balance running game. Jameis will become great,as long as he has a well rounded running game complementing with his elite passing game. Everyone needs to be patient,and allow Lighct and Arians to build a strong football dynasty right here on DaleMabry. Go Bucs 💯