Real Talk
January 27th, 2020
With the free agency dinner bell set to ring across the NFL on March 18, it’s possible players have a changed perspective of Tampa Bay.
Yes, even though it’s been three consecutive seasons of loserville in Tampa, and 12 straight seasons of no playoffs, at least Todd Bowles and Bucco Bruce Arians are altering the reputation of the team.
It used to be that Bucs management would suck up to players who didn’t care about the team because of their pay checks. See Doug Martin, DeSean Jackson and Chris Baker. What a strategy!
Former Bucs defensive coordinator Mike Smith got the same treatment. Brilliant leadership!
At the forefront of the Bucs change is Shaq Barrett. And something he said last week at the Pro Bowl was telling. Shaq told SiriusXM NFL Radio all about how Bowles is “100 percent real all the time.” And the Bucs’ sackmaster went on to say how Bowles lectured him when he arrived in Tampa, “I don’t care who’s starting. I want the best guy to be starting.”
When that kind of talk is not empty, it gets the attentions of free agents around the NFL, hungry guys like Shaq seeking real opportunity versus empty promises of BS-artist coaches and executives.
It makes a difference. And Joe suspects Breshad Perriman got the same kind of sales pitch from Bucs offensive coaches.
Joe admires how the Arians regime marches to the beat of its own drum, even if it meant senselessly limiting Ronald Jones’ touches after the season was lost, neutering the tight end position, refusing to get veteran cornerback help and drafting a linebacker at No. 5 overall when smarter options were available.
January 27th, 2020 at 9:12 am
I was just reminded that Leslie Frazier led his defense to the playoff before and after coming to Tampa.
PEOPLE ITS NOT THEM ITS YOU!!!!
Lolololol
January 27th, 2020 at 9:14 am
@Joe … “and drafting a linebacker at No. 5 overall when smarter options were available.” You’re soooo predictable Joe when it comes to Devin White. But I do 100% agree with you on RoJo, our TEs & CB.
January 27th, 2020 at 9:17 am
only low standard bucfan would label a defense that performed well about half a season FIXED and a desirable defense to play in…. what a joke…. get back to me when this defense and team competes at a high level week end and week out before thinking the least desirable sports franchise outside of Tehran is a now a desirable location.
joe how about this for a poll
How many plays (not wins) a season does it take for a player to be a buccaneer great!
A – 0-1
B – 2
C – 3
D – 4
E – They just have to loose quietly and play the god card….
No point in going past 4 great plays in a season that has not happened since sapp walked out the door….
buc fan has set all new lows for the terms great and legend. it’s a shame.
Stop with the low standards and free passes. Let them EARN it… They have earned NOTHING in 18 years…. You will feel so much better when you raise the bar… some free advice this fine Monday morning.
January 27th, 2020 at 9:20 am
Great observation Joe. This is why I so strongly support BA. By far the best acquisition was BA and him getting nearly every coach he wanted. That was serendipity.
Improvement in lots of areas, sure, in some cases we had no where to go but up.
We need to fix the run game a bit, drastically lower the penalties, and greatly improve special teams.
Yes there is work to do. But I fully expect this coaching staff to find those improvements.
In BA I Trust!
January 27th, 2020 at 9:23 am
If the “real talk” was toilet bolwes saying , “I want the best guy starting” then why was VH3 on the field??????????? That throws that “real talk” theory out the window!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “Real talk” will be disproved when overpaying for contracts start in little over a month away!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The “real fans” are wondering were all those supposive playoff expectations are!!!!!!!!!!!! For several seasons we have endured how this was a playoff calibur roster, that they have this supposive great coaching staff that takes multiple buses to move around!!!!!!!!! And it has been as silent on that front as the below avg gm and ole stale biscuit this offseason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 27th, 2020 at 9:27 am
There we go again, they refused to bring in veteran CB help… and what happened? The best trio of young CBs in the NFL emerged. That doesn’t happen if the team brought in a washed up/fringe starter/less talented vet CB to steal valuable practice and game reps from the young players. No veteran obstacles needed, just reps and experience. Sometimes another team’s trash, is still trash. We need to focus on our treasure, and give the young CBs what they need, playing time and experience. You can only learn so much from watching and all three of these guys are way past that point. They just need to play. Let’s stop with the Bring in a Vet CB nonsense, please!
January 27th, 2020 at 9:29 am
El Buco Realisto Says:
January 27th, 2020 at 9:23 am
If the “real talk” was toilet bolwes saying , “I want the best guy starting” then why was VH3 on the field??????????? That throws that “real talk” theory out the window!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “Real talk” will be disproved when overpaying for contracts start in little over a month away!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Probably because at the time, he was the best we had. VH3 started the season very well, a pick 6 in week 1, the game saving tackle in week 2, then his play declined… and he was cut less than half a season later. I’m pretty sure Bowles stuck to his word. Once 2/3 of the best young CB trio in the NFL was ready, Dean and Murphy-Bunting were out there. I’m not sure how much more clear that can be. The young guys clearly weren’t ready…until they were… then VH3 was gone. He stuck to his word.
January 27th, 2020 at 9:33 am
“When smarter options were available” lol
Which NFL Franchise do you run Joe?
January 27th, 2020 at 9:37 am
@Brandon
So you are saying that they had poor player evaluation!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!
January 27th, 2020 at 9:40 am
SB Says:
January 27th, 2020 at 9:33 am
“When smarter options were available” lol
Which NFL Franchise do you run Joe?
Didn’t name the “smarter” options …….I am presuming drafting Allen instead of Devin White………(arguable)……definitely not a foregone conclusion….
And what veteran CB at how much…..and would they really have played better than our rookies?
The proof is in the pudding…..we are now in rare position of signing our FAs most of whom we wish to keep.
January 27th, 2020 at 9:49 am
@tampabaybucfan
What are you talking about?????????? The below avg gm has been resigning and overpaying “our” FA for 6 offseason and about to be 7th straight offseason!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put down your medical wacky tobacco and think clearly for one minute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 27th, 2020 at 9:50 am
El Buco Realisto Says
“If the “real talk” was toilet bolwes saying , “I want the best guy starting” then why was VH3 on the field???”
• Giving VHIII a chance to prove himself
• Giving the younger guys time to develop
Duh.
Your point is empty considering what they ended up doing with VHIII.
@Tmaxcon
Go saway with your bigoted self.
January 27th, 2020 at 9:52 am
El Buco Realisto, lol.
You just make is stuff up, or does Tmaxcon provide you with a guidebook to follow?
January 27th, 2020 at 9:54 am
More BS from this regime; its non stop and has produced a defense that seems to be better but its always wait til next year here. As stated above, VH3 on the extension was playing and he was lazy and garbage.
January 27th, 2020 at 9:59 am
man the D came alive im excited about them, we need a QB and a running game bad. I trust this coaching staff more than any staff the bucs have had since dungy and gruden. 7-9 isn’t bad because I saw how the team got better in spite of the QB
January 27th, 2020 at 10:00 am
Looking at that pic, Bowles needs to eat a salad once in a while.
January 27th, 2020 at 10:01 am
JOE SAYS: Drafting a linebacker at No. 5 overall when smarter options were available. ?? WOW !! WTF !! > Devin White Repeats as Rookie of the Month !!!!!!
What award did Winston receive this year ??? Drafting Winston 1 overall when smarter options were available is a more reasonable opinion !!!!!!!!
JOE YOUR STPUID !!! Comment of the day.
IF only your QB was as consistent as you!!!
January 27th, 2020 at 10:02 am
Our GM brought in one free agent that set the bucs sack record and made the pro bowl. Seems worth mentioning in a fair assessment.
White is viewed by most as a good pick.
And the young secondary improved mightily.
January 27th, 2020 at 10:50 am
“Refusing to get veteran cornerback help”: Proved to be the correct assessment, as our corners developed with playing time given to them and not a vet.
“Drafting a linebacker at No. 5 overall when smarter options were available”: I wish we could’ve gotten both Devin White AND Josh Allen. Since we couldn’t, I’m happy with Devin White.
January 27th, 2020 at 10:50 am
@Brandon
That was an excellent post! And you saved the rest here from having to read a long post from me…you nailed it.
@Joe
Agree with D.R. about White. You already have the ignominious pimping of Johnny Football. When White blows up and is all over the field making plays..including sacks if they blitz him…more forced fumbles…more scoop and scores and he gets better in NFL coverage…he will be the focus and you’ll have ten sacks from Allen.
January 27th, 2020 at 11:08 am
I don’t like the idea fo arguing with an idiot (Realist)…..so I’ll call it explaining.
In most, if not all years past……we went out and, yes….overpaid FAs…..but this year we don’t have to look for new ones because the ones we brought in performed well.
So, yes….we will have to pay them…..but likely only what their market value is…..but at least we know they will be worth it.
Name one FA that we don’t want to keep out of this list…
Shaq, JPP, Suh, Nassib, Perriman….
I thought so…..now shut up!!!
January 27th, 2020 at 11:14 am
Here at “Negative Bucs.com……………
“drafting a linebacker at No. 5 overall when smarter options were available”.
Another typical bird brain take.
It often amazes me how some people who watch pro football just don’t understand what they’re seeing.
January 27th, 2020 at 11:29 am
Oh 812, the irony smh 🤦🏻♂️
January 27th, 2020 at 11:36 am
So Realist just bashed a coach who turned the defense around vs supporting Mike Smith tge entire time he lead the worst defense in the league. This just keeps getting better
January 27th, 2020 at 12:12 pm
@tampabaybucfan
You ask a question and then say “shut up”????? That is not very Christian of you at all!!!!!!!!!! Father Dungy would admonish you for that faux pas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And way to pick out a very small selection of free agents out of the total!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But I will make your day and play your little game, even though you have cherry picked out of the huge list!!!!!!!!! You pay Barrett, JPP and Suh, and throw low ball offers to the rest, of your list!!!!!!!!!!! But hope that other teams way overpay for them so the Bucs can acquire compensatory picks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 27th, 2020 at 12:51 pm
El Buco Realisto Says:
January 27th, 2020 at 9:23 am
If the “real talk” was toilet bolwes saying , “I want the best guy starting” then why was VH3 on the field???????????
dean was hurt in the beginning of the year….SMB was unproven….ryan smith was suspended…..
you’d know that if you’d stop playing mommy and daddy with smitty!!!!!!
pull your skirt down!!!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!!!
January 27th, 2020 at 1:01 pm
@813broccoli
Dean was not on the injury report until week 3 and 4!!!!!!!!!! Thx for playing but you lose again!!!!!!!!!!
And like the other post, then they either lied or gravely messed up the player evaluation and should have dipped into FA!!!!!!!!!!!!
But, it is funny to see you repeatedly embarrass yourself, just like the jay-miss nut-huggers do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 27th, 2020 at 1:58 pm
Dam I actually agree with something the Realist said.
“You pay Barrett, JPP and Suh, and throw low ball offers to the rest, of your list!!!!!!!!!!! But hope that other teams way overpay for them so the Bucs can acquire compensatory picks”
It would be nice to get third and fourth round extra picks.
January 27th, 2020 at 3:39 pm
@topdoggie
Most do, it just takes the sheep months or years to catch up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just like when I said the Bucs problem was roster talent and turnovers years ago, but joe and the sheep thought wrongly that a new defensive coordinator just needed to use those players to their strength!!!!!!!!!! And they got another losing season and the defensive roster is almost all the way turned over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Most will agree with the truth!!!!!!!!!! It just takes some a while to see it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 27th, 2020 at 7:01 pm
Looks like someone mistook the name of this thread for “Rheal-ist Squak”
January 27th, 2020 at 11:43 pm
not to mention the regime who let walk the QB with his jersey already in Canton… #FreeTheAmishRifle