Critical Draft Sunday For The Bucs

November 7th, 2019

There will be plenty on the line when the Buccaneers kick off Sunday at the Den of Depression, 1 p.m. Eastern time before about 20,000 empty seats and legions of Bucs fans battered by franchise incompetence.

At 2-6, a Bucs victory will feel great, but it will launch Tampa Bay to the three-win mark, which might be hard to overcome if you’re dreaming of a top-5 draft pick.

It’s just one of those years.

If the Falcons lose in New Orleans (likely), a Bucs win would give Tampa Bay a two-game lead on Atlanta and that could be a draft-related kick in the groin with the likes of the Dolphins, Redskins, Jets, Giants and Bengals out there. (Joe will be keeping a keen eye on Sunday’s Giants-Jets scoreboard).

When the whistle blows, Joe always cheers for the Bucs. But Joe is aware of how downright depressing it will be this winter if the Bucs are sitting at 6-10 with, say, the No. 10 overall pick, especially with a division rival picking ahead of them.

Of course, the more the Bucs win, the better the odds of America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, returning next season because of the potential impact to the draft order. Joe knows that saddens many Bucs fans who see Jameis as a model of inconsistency.

Let’s go Falcons! And Cleveland (2-6) needs to get its sorry self in gear and bounce back at home against the Bills.

76 Responses to “Critical Draft Sunday For The Bucs”

  1. Buc believer Says:

    No one plays for the draft as often as the Bucs!

  2. Nick2 Says:

    Kind of tired even looking ahead to the draft when so few we draft pan out.

  3. tmaxcon Says:

    buccanners cove is calling and waiting!!!! Hopefully BA has a meltdown and the team spirals…. this is a slow death with the washed up staff in place.

  4. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Pretty sure your in the minority here Joe. The Bucs need wins simple as that. I’ll never root for the Falcons to win and Bucs to lose. That’s a sign of a Losing culture.

    Joe does not seem to grasp the concept that it’s irrelevant where we pick when a BAD general manager is making your picks.
    A) Joe does not assume Jason Licht will be the guy picking.
    B) Joe does not assume Jason Licht picked last season.
    C) Nobody’s rooting for the Bucs to lose when the whistle blows.
    D) Joe has no problem rooting for the Falcons to beat the Saints.
    E) You can build a winning culture by having some key players work hard all week alongside the young players (backups) they’re going to support on the field come Sunday. Some might say that’s powerful bonding and development.


    Jameis, inconsistent? How do the Joe(s) “see” Jameis?? Inconsistent is his trademark and should be his middle name!

  6. Mike Johnson Says:

    I got us with a 7 to 10th pick in the 1st rd. I think we win Sunday. Arians wants this one badly. Bowles will go out with the pressure on Murphy. Our Bucs will win 6 or 7 this season.

  7. tmaxcon Says:

    i have total confidence this team will never win another meaningful game… simple as that… I full confidence bucs will do what they do every draft which is try and outsmart themselves but ending up taking garbage

  8. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    The key is rooting for the Bucs to win along with other teams vying for top draft picks…..
    You don’t and shouldn’t ever root for the Bucs to lose……

    I think it’s a bit disingenuous and half-hearted to say you are playing for the draft but you always root for the Bucs……the two are contradictory positions.

  9. pelbuc Says:

    All this draft positioning talk is irrelevant while Licht is the GM. He has put the Bucs in this mess and yet we somehow hope he will have solid drafts to improve this roster and correct his own draft blunders. Please!!!!

  10. Coburn Says:

    Always blows me away every year that ad terrible as we end uo being every season there are somehow a few tways still worse..

  11. WyldKat Says:

    You either want them to win every game, or you don’t. I’m weary of this lose for the future BS. Especially given how well we’ve drafted since this round of suckage kicked off.

  12. SB Says:

    ” Joe knows that saddens many Bucs fans who see Jameis as a model of inconsistency.”


    What other way is there to see him?

  13. 813bucboi Says:

    unfortunately, bucs will have BAD JW this week and he will fail to beat a rookie QB yet again….

    defense will come to play but BAD JW will have 3 TO’s….

    GO BUCS!!!!

  14. John Sinclear Says:

    How about just win out, run the table from here on, be 10 – 6 for the season and get a wild card slot? Where are the real fans in this crowd?

  15. Waterboy Says:

    The norm for the Bucs is around 5-11 and that’s usually a #6 or #7 draft pick. Still high enough to get a game changer IF you draft correctly.

  16. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    I really think Kyler Murray has a statement rookie of the year game here, with a ton of rushing and passing yards to keep the bucs in contention for a top 5 pick

  17. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Another top 5 pick yayyy! Who should we get Lawrence Taylor, Jerry Rice or Deion Sanders?

  18. Lamarcus Says:

    So players supposed to lose on purpose so the team can draft they’re replacement?

  19. buc15 Says:

    I would rather win & be able to build on our progress. If you root for us to lose, you are not a true fan

  20. Allbuccedup Says:

    The game will start out looking like a buc blowout until the second half then it will be a nail biter.

  21. Bobby M. Says:

    Looking at current QB rankings…..nearly 2/3rds of the QBs ranked higher then Winston were taken outside the top 10. You can give Licht the #1 pick again and he’ll still miss. Dude has blown 9 picks in the secondary, Ryan Smith is probably the most productive of them and he’s on special teams.

    Russell Wilson – 3rd rd
    Dak Prescott – 4th rd
    Tom Brady – 4th rd
    Pat Mahomes – 1st rd/Pick 10
    Deshaun Watson – 1st rd/Pick 12
    Lamar Jackson – 1st rd/Pick 32
    Jimmy Garrapollo – 2nd rd
    Derek Carr – 2nd rd
    Aaron Rodgers – 1st rd/Pick 23
    Kirk Cousins – 4th rd
    Jacoby Brissett – 3rd rd
    Drew Brees – 2nd rd

  22. 813bucboi Says:


    no need to lose on purpose….lol…

    we have JW as our QB…lol…

    he’ll lose the game without even trying….

    can he beat a rookie or back up QB this year?….lol…

    GO BUCS!!!!

  23. Bucs Fan Since ‘76 Says:

    B) Joe does not assume Jason Licht picked last season.

    The fact that you, of all people, do not know that, speaks volumes of how completely rudderless this franchise is, and how poorly the Glazers are managing the organization.

  24. Buczilla Says:

    I used to look forward to the draft, especially during losing seasons. Jason Licht has managed to singlehandedly take that simple pleasure away. Do the right thing Glazers and get a new gm.

  25. The Coroner Says:

    Warren Sapp pick 12 round 1
    Derrick Brooks pick 28 round 1

    The Bucs need much better talent evaluators.

  26. Bucs 14 Says:

    It does not matter if we win out or lose. Either way, drafting high or low, Licht will f$ck up the draft as he always does. Heck, he will probably waste a pick on a punter next season

  27. Oregonbucsfan Says:

    “How about just win out, run the table from here on, be 10 – 6 for the season and get a wild card slot? Where are the real fans in this crowd?”…John S.
    By real fans are you referring to the idiots on this site that predicted 10 wins, the playoffs and maybe the SB!!!
    Those guys have gone home.
    I wish I could say that the Bucs have a good shot at a great season, but I’m not an idiot. This is a substandard team, has been substandard for years, and shows no sign of being substandard in the future (see new 5 year GM contract).
    Those of us that are realistic Buc fans just go along for the long, long ride and look for a parting in the clouds. Right now the immediate forecast is for a 5 level hurricane.

  28. ClodHopper Says:

    I don’t think I’ve ever disagreed with Joe as strongly as I do on this. And I was in the Mike Glennon Mob!

    Fixing the culture is more important than anything right now. I would trade first rounders with the Patriots if it meant fixing this rotten quick to quit culture. Hell, I would give up what Ditka gave up to get Ricky Williams if it meant fixing the culture

  29. Bucsfanman Says:

    Beat the Cardinals! That should be the only goal this week. Next week, the Saints….

  30. BrianBucs Says:

    Jameis Winston on his own, all by himself costs the Bucs 4-6 games a year, so we still have a couple of those left for this year.
    So it really doesn’t matter the what the Bucs record is or where they pick, they will still make the wrong choice.
    It’s A Bucs Life.

  31. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    Anything is possible just win baby!

  32. BrianDorry55 Says:

    We’re not getting a Top 5 pick.

  33. 1bucnation Says:

    Year after year we go through the same old song and dance. Let’s route for a top draft pick! How many years/decades does a team need top draft pick? What good have the Bucs done with all these top draft picks? What makes this year any different? IMO it’s that mentality why this team has such a losing culture. They all figure it’s acceptable, the norm, and that’s what fans are used too. You guys know the definition of insanity? To keep doing the same thing over and over again hoping for different results. It’s time for this team to figure something out. The sad part is I don’t even care if they when or lose this week I’m to lose to the disappointment year after year. They need to start proving that they can turn things around. You know how the saying goes. Respect is earned not given.

  34. Snook Says:

    Falcons will beat the Bucs both times.

    Ryan is near the top of the league in passing yards. He’ll have a career day against our secondary.

  35. Gman Says:

    try 30,000 empty seats

  36. Dewey Selmon Says:

    I’m more concerned if a 1st year QB can come in a 5th year QB’s house and beat him. #1 pick vs #1 pick

  37. ATLBucs Says:

    Forget about draft picks Joe. We will finish up at 10-6 baby!!!!!

  38. BucsBandit Says:


    I love when Bucs fans get so worked up when someone mentions they should tank the rest of the way…

    Get it through your stubborn heads… it’s about the PLAYOFFS, and ultimately winning another Super Bowl. We’re 2-6 and no way making the playoffs. So any wins at this point are ‘moral victories’ which is the equivalent of winning 1 out of 3 games in rock/scissors/paper and trying to feel good about losing because you at least didn’t get swept.

    Tanking the rest of this season matters MORE than ever before. We need a new QB, and draft position for 2020 is now CRITICAL. Winning some meaningless games, and God forbid, having that mean extending Jameis Winston at a cap-busting salary for a guy that simply just isn’t that good, would be DEVASTATING to this franchise.

    If you truly want the Bucs to get back to winning seasons and the playoffs, you’re rooting for as many losses as possible for the rest of the season now more than ever.

  39. Buccfan37 Says:

    With flameout Licht making the draft choices nobody knows what to expect except for a wtf reach here and there. Like the pic above clueless schmoozing the clueless owners

  40. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    if jason licht makes it another season then what gives fans, aside from the delusional ones who always predict 11-5 due to paper moves, from buying into this franchise in 2020

  41. JustBucNwin Says:

    Draft position doesn’t mean anything when we have a GM who will miss a lot more that get it right…with no indication that our sh!tty “talent evaluator” will before the Bucs turn in another bust on the card.

  42. JustBucNwin Says:

    *Will be gone before.

  43. Joe bucblow Says:

    Forget the draft, let’s buy a team through free agency.

  44. Pewter power Says:

    Exaggerating as usual. In case you didn’t check the record cardinals are better than the bucs number 1 and 2 the stands will be empty and 3 for someone e rooting for the bucs it’s like your saying it will suck if they win or loss because YOU are jocking for draft position.

    Fact it has been irrelevant whether the bucs pick 1st overall or 10th. It has not made a single difference. So win games or lose games doesn’t matter what the draft position is a decent gm should be able to get a great player

  45. Bejesus belt Says:

    Sad thing is if Jameis is replaced in the 1st round that puts drafting a pass rusher off another year. Only organization I have ever heard of ignoring the pass rush year after year. So why don’t the Bucs make the playoffs? Ugh, No wonder I’m a borderline alcoholic during football season.

  46. unbelievable Says:


    And then you wonder why we have a losing culture.

  47. JimmyJack Says:

    I say we all should try to get to Ray Jay on Sunday.

    It’s been a long rough road trip for Our Bucs. They could really use a momentum boost from their fans.

    I know all y’all that are here reading this aren’t fairweather fans. Why aren’t we do our part are make sure the home field is rocking & give them the home advantage?

    Get up, dust yourself off, thicken up & let’s show this team that we want the Den of Depression Era to end right here and now!!!

    I’ve been talking about it for weeks and gotten nothing but crickets in response…….It is a fact and the players do feed off of the crowd. When we give them a weak home crowd we are also part of the problem.

    I say get to the stadium and show this team we aren’t going anywhere. We do that we deserve a winner……We don’t show maybe we don’t really deserve it.

  48. Hodad Says:

    Joe, I always love the pictures you put with your articles, this one is another classic. We need captions with them tho. This one could be the blind leading the blind.

  49. JimmyJack Says:

    I’ll be there. Be in South Endzone trying to funnel noise and hopefully create a domino effect to rest of the crowd(which always seems to be too quiet for my taste).

    If Bruce gets the choice I hope he puts Arizona’s backs to that edge of the field.

    That said it’s hard to stay excited hearing how empty the stadium might be. Hopefully fans step up and avoid them empty seats. Nobody to blame but ourselfs if not but I do wish some of the podcasts I listen to would do something to try and rally the fans.

  50. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    E) You can build a winning culture by having some key players work hard all week alongside the young players (backups) they’re going to support on the field come Sunday. Some might say that’s powerful bonding and development.

    That hasn’t worked so far.

    I’m all for winning.

    In 1996, the team went 1-7 to start the season. They went 5-3 the rest of the season for a total record of 6-10. The next year, we were in the playoffs, two games deep.

    Those Bucs and coaches did not worry about a draft pick in 1997. They focused on figuring out how to win, and it carried over into the following year when they started with five straight wins and went 10-6 for the season.

    So no…I do not give a rip about the draft. We can get good players at any time in the draft.

  51. Slugglife Says:

    Just gonna watch the game at the house JJ. No desire to be at RJS. The food sucks, the beer is warm and overpriced.

    Just gonna cook my wings, do shots for every turnover, shotgun beers every time our dbs give up a bomb for TD. And I won’t have to drive home.

  52. Slugglife Says:

    I almost forgot- another shot every time VH3 fake “slips” when he has to go head up for a tackle.

  53. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Joe bucblow Says
    “Forget the draft, let’s buy a team through free agency.”

    That rarely works. Just ask the redskins.

  54. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Bucs Fan Since ‘76 Says:
    “B) Joe does not assume Jason Licht picked last season.

    The fact that you, of all people, do not know that, speaks volumes of how completely rudderless this franchise is, and how poorly the Glazers are managing the organization.”

    That is an opinion colored by bias against Jason Licht. Licht had little say-so with Lovie. He had more say-so with Koetter. But he has absolutely no say-so with Arians.

    Heck, Licht did not even want to pick Winston. He said he was against it, but Lovie ‘convinced him’…in other words, Lovie said ‘This is the guy I’m picking. Get on board.’

    If you watch how the whole arrival and press conference went down with Arians, you’ll clearly see who is in complete control.

  55. JimmyJack Says:

    Slugg……..Ya gotta work the stadium……Not let the stadium work you.

    Most of your eating should be done during the tailgate. Same with drinking. Not a liquor guy so I’m kinda forced to buy a beer inside but if your doing shots you could get creative.

    I’m the desigination driver so I usually only drink 1 beer but if ya wanna get your drink on find a driver bud, which will cost you parking fees(proper etiquette)……Problem solved.

  56. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Bobby M. Says
    “Licht…has blown 9 picks in the secondary…”

    Let’s see if that is true:

    2019 – 1 – Devin White LB
    2019 – 2 – Sean Bunting CB Too Early To Tell
    2019 – 3 – Jamel Dean CB Too Early To Tell
    2019 – 3 – Mike Edwards S Too Early To Tell
    2019 – 4 – Anthony Nelson DE
    2019 – 5 – Matt Gay K
    2019 – 6 – Scott Miller WR
    2019 – 7 – Terry Beckner, Jr. DT

    Head Coach: DIRK KOETTER
    2018 – 1 – Vita Vea DT
    2018 – 2 – Ronald Jones RB
    2018 – 2 – M.J. Stewart CB Not Looking Good
    2018 – 2 – Carlton Davis CB Has Shown Promise
    2018 – 3 – Alex Cappa T
    2018 – 4 – Jordan Whitehead S Has Shown Promise
    2018 – 5 – Justin Watson WR
    2018 – 6 – Jack Cichy LB

    Head Coach: DIRK KOETTER
    2017 – 1 – O.J. Howard TE
    2017 – 2 – Justin Evans S Has Shown Promise…when he gets on the field
    2017 – 3 – Chris Godwin WR
    2017 – 3 – Kendell Beckwith LB
    2017 – 5 – Jeremy McNichols RB – BUST
    2017 – 7 – Stevie Tu’ikolovatu NT – BUST

    Head Coach: DIRK KOETTER
    2016 – 1 – Vernon Hargreaves CB
    2016 – 2 – Noah Spence DE – BUST
    2016 – 2 – Roberto Aguayo K – BUST
    2016 – 4 – Ryan Smith CB Has Shown Promise
    2016 – 5 – Caleb Benenoch T – BUST
    2016 – 6 – Devante Bond LB – BUST
    2016 – 6 – Danny Vitale FB – BUST

    2015 – 1 – Jameis Winston QB
    2015 – 2 – Donovan Smith LT
    2015 – 2 – Ali Marpet G/C
    2015 – 4 – Kwon Alexander LB
    2015 – 5 – Kenny Bell WR – BUST
    2015 – 6 – Kaelin Clay WR – BUST
    2015 – 7 – Joey Iosefa FB – BUST

    2014 – 1 – Mike Evans WR
    2014 – 2 – Austin Seferian-Jenkins TE
    2014 – 3 – Charles Sims RB
    2014 – 5 – Kadeem Edwards OL – BUST
    2014 – 5 – Kevin Pamphile T – BUST
    2014 – 6 – Robert Herron WR – BUST

    I count 8 secondary players, but I could have miscounted. Of those 8, one is most likely a bust. The rest have either shown promise or it is too early to tell.

    I remind you, fans thought Vita Vea and Ronald Jones we busts at this point last year too.

    I admit, the record overall is not looking great though.

  57. Kobe Faker Says:

    “It seems JBF and the posters dont realize how important this game is to the coaches, owners and the city of Tampa bay

    So many intertwined story lines

    BA loses this game ….Bucs fanbase completely disappears

    Haters come out full force

    Buc Black Monday”


  58. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Ahhh. 9 secondary. I did not count VHIII. But he is not a bust anyway.

  59. ModHairKen Says:

    If you hope they lose so that they get a higher pick, you are a loser.

    If you are worried about the draft with half the season left, you are a loser.

    If you think trading picks during a season makes sense, you are a loser

  60. JimmyJack Says:

    Bonzai thanks for the post. It’s cool to look at the list. Two Bust lables I disagree with are Bond and Phampile.

    Bond has been good on ST and has shown potential to have some upside in this defense. Not bad for a late rounder. He’s suspended right now. He will get a shot somewhere next year, maybe here.

    With Phampile he has a job in the league, not sure if starting, but I’m pretty sure he is effective as a swing player at minimum. Him not still being here in Tampa could very well be a coaching failure.

  61. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    2 First Overall QB Picks facing off against each other…pity the rookie on seen a fractions of the snaps Jameis has….Vern

  62. bucs4ya Says:

    Just cracks me up to read comments saying can Jameis beat a rookie QB. My bad didn’t know he played Defense. The question is can our defense stop a rookie QB and can Jameis play well enough against their defense to help his TEAM beat another team. QBs don’t play each other stop with that. I’m like most and I’m not sure Jameis is the answer to our franchise QB hopes but I do know that Jameis is the reason we have 2WRs in the top 15. He’s the reason Hump got his contract along with the reason Brate got his. Yes the turnovers drive me crazy but he had 1 last game just as Seattle did and we still loss. The defense is the biggest issue with this team right now and to be clear it’s the secondary just as it’s been the entire time he’s been here. If the defense was in the top 20 of pass defense our record would be much better and we wouldn’t be having our usual draft talk.

  63. Tbbucs3 Says:


    The problem with your evaluations on Lichts DBs is that if they were worth anything the would’ve of shown it by now.

    It’s year 3 for Ryan Smith and there’s nothing that tells me he’s gonna be much of anything. His ceiling is maybe an average role player. Real DBs come in and make an impact right away ex. Jalen Ramsey and Marshon Lattimore

    So I’ll adjust it for you
    Vernon Hargreaves= Bad
    Jamal Dean= Really bad
    Ryan Smith= Leonard Johnson
    Jordan Whitehead= Best of bad group
    Justin Evans= Meh
    MJ Stewart= MJ Stewart
    Mike Edwards= ?
    Carlton Davis= Maybe

  64. nick Says:

    the biggest problem with depending on the draft is the apparent inability of those in charge to draft capable players beyond the first round

  65. bucs4ya Says:

    We all say the one constant about our recent drafts has been the GM. Can anyone tell me who our scouting dept personnel are and how long have they been around along with where they scout. It’s crazy that fans can see better talent than those that are paid handsomely to do so.

  66. Defense Rules Says:

    Heartening to see that so many JBFers think it’s ridiculous to ‘play for the draft’ Far as I’m concerned, the Bucs still have a chance to go 10-6 UNTIL (and IF) they lose their next game. Then they’d still have a chance to go 9-7 UNTIL (and IF) they lose another game. We play one game at a time, and we’ve got a CHANCE to win every single one of those.

    Talking about the draft in November is about as meaningless as it gets. Bucs have ZERO clue at this point what our priority NEEDS will be just prior to the 2020 draft. We have ZERO clue who’d fall to us when we do pick in the first round (or any other round for that matter). We have ZERO clue which FAs we’ll try to re-sign, and which ones will say ‘Thanks but no thanks’. We don’t even have any idea which college players will declare early for the draft at this point. The list of ‘we don’t knows’ goes on and on.

    in the meantime, this team is being paid $200 mil to bust their butts to try to win every game. And this coaching staff is paid handsomely to help them do that. At 2-and-6, there appears to be a number of folks who aren’t earning their pay. So Bucs, put you big-boy pants on & start kicking some ass. Anything less is rubbish.

  67. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Yeah that’s the ticket. Let’s force us all to watch losing football for the remainder of the year so that we can get a HIGHER pick in the draft.

    That is a SINGLE player!!!! After the top five the success rate drops off rapidly and the difference between high third rounders and middle rounders is marginal.

    Clodhopper is spot on! We need to change this culture!!! Losing on purpose to change a losing culture is like scwing for virginity.

  68. pick6 Says:

    as i say every season (sadly)….i totally get rooting for the best draft pick. however, at some point the “keepers” on the roster (and there are more this year than in years past) need to prove that they can be part of a winning core.

    maybe you get lucky and catch fire after picking in the top 5 like SF did, but a young team like these bucs will probably benefit more from young guys winning games than from young guys sucking so much you need new young guys to replace them

  69. SteveK Says:

    As much as his play drives me nuts, Jameis absolutely balled out last week. Sans the perriman touchdown, everything was spot on.

    I’m hoping he plays like that the rest of the way and we will
    Won some games. So tired of losing.

  70. SteveK Says:

    Go Bucs!

    Hope these dudes come out playing hard this week!

    I bet Jamal Dean has a better game. Growing pains. And Russel Wilson’s deep ball is almost as perfect as Aaron Rodgers. Those two are artists out there.

    Jameis played great last week. I loved his last game and want to see it again the rest of the way. He has the talent in thereX just honing in on his consistency. I hope the young man gets hot and wins some games for this team. That would be exciting. If we don’t have playoffs can we at least be a spoiler?

  71. Jean Lafitte Says:

    I’ll sum up this strategy with a verb *vomit*

  72. Alanbucsfan Says:

    Joe knows that saddens many Bucs fans who see Jameis as a model of inconsistency.-

    That statement is evidence that Joe has no clue about Bucs fans.

    Nothing would make fans happier than for Bucs to start winning with a winning QB play Jameis.
    When Jameis shows on the field that he can be trusted to not be a turnover machine and not be responsible for 1/2 the team losses, then the criticism will stop because the talent recognition is there.

    He has played 3 great games- Rams, Seahawks and 1st Panthers game
    3 terrible games- 49ers, 2nd Panthers and Titans game.
    One game was 1/2 great and 1/2 sucked- Giants
    And 1 game was a team loss- Saints

    His record shows he is inconsistent, period.

    Buc fans want a consistent QB- whether it’s Jameis or somebody else.

  73. Wesley Says:


  74. TOM Says:

    The fans that said Falcons beat the Bucs twice & the Bucs end up 10-6, I would like to place a wager against that. I’m afraid the reality is that we’re syuck with Licht for at least another year & the same goes with Winsnone. Unless the the Glazer’s sell the team. Also I don’t think the Glazer’s care how many empty seats there are they’re still making a ton of money. Who cares about winning? Not the Glazer’s. And don’t forget fans who are going to the game remember your paper bags. I suspect half of the fans at the games will be Cardinals.

  75. Show me the TDs Says:

    Play to win every game. If nothing else, to rid this franchise of the stink of losing. These type of articles suck and are about as negative as tmaxcon, whose posts I started skipping over about 8 months ago. I WANT MY TEAM TO WIN, come hell or high water!!

  76. Sumosam Says:

    It’s BS to want to lose anytime. I hate that philosophy. Anybody that believes that is a loser.