Bucs Beating Bucs

November 6th, 2019

Yeah, folks can point to a lot of plays they believe sunk the Bucs last Sunday.

But it would be hard to top the two-play sequence of braindead plays by the Bucs late in the third quarter that really sums up the season.

A mistake took one touchdown off the board, followed by another screwup on the next snap that stole a TD. The Bucs settled for just a field goal.

Vince Verhei of FootballOutsiders.com documented the head-up-the-tailpipe plays.

Bucs lead 24-21 at the end of three, but Seattle is driving with a first down at the Tampa Bay 24 to start the fourth. Winston had a pair of third-quarter touchdowns with his legs, but both were wiped out by penalty. First he scrambled and found Scotty Miller for the score, but Miller had stepped out of bounds, so no catch. Next snap, Winston scrambles and runs for a touchdown, but Dotson is called for holding. The Bucs settled for the go-ahead field goal.

Earlier this week Joe was watching a DVR version of “Gamechangers” and Bill Belicheat was featured. A clip was shown of Belicheat addressing his team that Joe had seen before. Belicheat told his team in preparation for a game: “Understand how one stupid play; one stupid penalty; one mistake ends it. For all of us.”

How one runs out of bounds in the end zone and then tries to come back in and catch a pass is beyond Joe’s comprehension. What, did stadium workers paint the white lines on the field for the cheerleaders to prance on?

And while Belichick is dead-on correct, Dotson and Miller in back-to-back plays made sure it ended for all of their teammates and coaches Sunday.

Bucs beating Bucs.

42 Responses to “Bucs Beating Bucs”

  1. tmaxcon Says:

    No surprise outside of the fluke championship season bucs have masterd the art of self beating…. jerk chicken anyone….

  2. Allbuccedup Says:

    Bad coaching.

  3. DBS Says:

    Dotson is and has been a penalty machine and drive killer.

  4. Barbosa Says:

    Scotty Miller, the new whipping boy. Defense defense defense only the dolphins are worse, and they are not even trying. #its a Bucs life

  5. Matthew Fifer Says:

    What could Miller possibly be blackmailing the coaching staff with in order to get on the field? Every time he does something stupid, I just miss Humphries more and more. He’s better than every one of our receivers not named Evans & Godwin.

  6. AwShbucs Says:

    Dont forget, before the Scotty Miller high school mistake, Tanner Hudson dropped a TD that hit him square in his hands.

  7. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Stop with the Scotty Miller experiment….it’s over…he sucks….3rd stringer talent at best

    I wanna see Justin Watson

  8. Easy Says:

    Ill cut Miller and Hudson a little slack being as they are rookies. But the fact Watson cant even get on the field is a mystery to me.

  9. zzbuc Says:

    I understand people mad at Miller, I get it…..Take a look at the penalties of toher people….For example nobody says anything about Barret’s offside at the ende of the game…….I know what Barret means today for the Bucs, his performance has been outstanding at the beginning of the season, now is just average….But that penalty killed us…….

  10. Go Bucs 72 Says:

    Miller’s play is inexcusable, the hold on Dot was iffy at best IMO.

  11. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Most players make these kinds of mistakes because they are making up for lack of talent…..struggling to succeed.

    And, I agree….where is Justin Watson…..I haven’t seen anything from him that justifies his benching.

  12. CChead Says:

    Scotty Miller sucks. He has no business being on any NFL team. Perriman is not much better, but our great GM and giant coaching staff can’t see it. This is only 1 reason among many why this team still is terrible.

  13. SammyRebel Says:

    Please cut this guy he is so useless

  14. ben Says:

    Did bucs fans see where Winston is rated #1 with the dumbest mistakes in the nfl this week ,,,(again) ..yep,

  15. Bosch Says:

    Cut them both. Then after Sunday’s game cut two more. And so on. ZERO TOLERANCE FOR MISTAKES!

  16. buc up Says:

    It all boils down to Bucco Bruce NOT playing starters more in the pre-season. New coaching staff & new systems on both sides of the ball. They SHOULD have been learning in games that do not count. Yes injuries do occur in pre-season games but you can not just ‘flip the switch’ and expect good play when the season starts!

  17. stpetebucsfan Says:

    What Go Bucs just posted!

  18. Pewter power Says:

    Yea its all Winston fault right ok lol a rookie quarterback will make it all better

  19. Bradinator Says:

    Is Justin Watson even alive? He cannot possibly be worse than Miller. Did he steal Arian’s golf cart? Apparently Miller is SO fast that he couldn’t stop himself in time to not go out of bounds on that route. How can we have the best 1-2 punch in Evans and Godwin and their supporting cast be so poor?

  20. Iamabuc Says:

    Yeah, PP…you know how it goes around this parts; blame Jameis, and call it a day…yeah, it always JW3’s fault….smdh

  21. tmaxcon Says:

    you people have to admit little Scottie is a perfect poster child for this minor league franchise and it’s high school roster he looks like a sophomore….

  22. NPRSageBoy Says:

    Why is Scotty Miller even seeing the field?

    Where is Justin Watson?

    Peace, out

  23. Troy Says:

    Little things make all the difference.

  24. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Tanner Hudson
    Scotty Miller
    Jamal Dean
    Vernon Hargreeves

    Wonder why we lose?

  25. Tbbucs3 Says:

    “Understand how one stupid play; one stupid penalty; one mistake ends it. For all of us.”

    Patriots Culture= 1 stupid mistake and your in the dawg house and likely released. 0 tolerance for mistakes.

    Bucs Culture= Mistakes are tolerated and Jason Licht will keep Kenny Bell level players around for 3 years before its obvious to everyone they are not good enough.

  26. 813bucboi Says:


    you forgot to add JW to your list….

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  27. Jean Lafitte Says:

    C’mon Miller was looking for the ball not looking at his feet. It turned into a backyard scramble drill and he cut across in front of the back end line with his eyes focused on Jameis and accidently step out with his right foot.

    Give the guy a break

  28. Buccfan37 Says:

    Sometimes unforeseen circumstances get in the way like Miller not aware of the back line of the endzone, like Hudson dropping the second pass thrown his way that I recall. Both players should get more targets as both are young and raw. They’ll catch those next time.

  29. mdsbuc Says:

    Go Bucs 72 Said:
    November 6th, 2019 at 8:30 am
    Miller’s play is inexcusable, the hold on Dot was iffy at best IMO.

    I agree. The call on Dotson was a real “Patty Cake” call.

  30. Bucamania Says:

    Dumbest team in the NFL, hands down, which is on the players and coaches.

  31. RustyRhinos Says:

    Bradinator, “How can we have the best 1-2 punch in Evans and Godwin and their supporting cast be so poor?”

    Just wait until we resign America’s turnover machine to that big contract he has been working towards. Not only will the supporting cast be poor, we might not be able to keep Goodwin. With the way he has played. He will want to get paid too. Same with Barrett, JPP, Nassib. But at least we will have the savior of our franchise at QB.

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  33. Defense Rules Says:

    Buc Up … I agree with you; with a new coaching staff, these starters should’ve played a LOT more in preseason. They clearly weren’t well-prepared when the regular season started. Way too many mistakes on BOTH sides of the ball.

  34. jjbucfan Says:

    Jean-I hope you are being sarcastic. If not, if Jameis was scrambling and stepped out before letting go of the ball and threw a TD that got called back- would you be so forgiving?

  35. JimmyJack Says:

    DR don’t look now but we have been making these same mistakes for over a decade now. I highly doubt a few extra preseason snaps is what would make the difference.

    Cleaning up these mistakes is likely a process thats much more difficult then us fans give credit. And yes we did still see too many Sunday but it actually was much better then we saw for the entire month of October. If they continue to improve and can play more solid football we might actually look like a team that has a chanse in the 2nd half.

    It’s very hard to track the progress in this area because their are no stats(this is likely why they have the famous accountability sheet) but it is easy to see when your team is plays mistake free solid football as opposed to the comedy of errors we frequently see.

  36. Jmarkbuc Says:


    Good thing we have an “accountability board”

  37. JimmyJack Says:

    The mentality of this team and our propensity to make stupid mistakes might just be a big reason why Bruce couldn’t walk right in and immediately turn the franchise around.

    It’s be a cool little study but look at two recent examples of quick fixes…….McVay in St Louis & Nagy in Chicago…….Now look at the HCs they replaced. Fisher and Fox……..Niether Fox or Fisher were wildly successful but they were good at holding players accountable and getting them to play solid football.

    It’s worth an argument that McVay and Nagy had easier jobs because they took over for teams that already knew how to put together solid efforts……..Could even argue Bruce had the same luxury taking over both the Colts and Cards……2 teams that were not far removed from success.

  38. Reach87 Says:

    The out of bounds play was bad. IMO the hold was a no-call. Regardless, that did not cost us the game. Pull back and see that we essentially matched them point for point (hence the overtime). We simply needed one stop, and we couldn’t get off the field. We’re getting better. As the coach said, there is no one on our schedule we cannot beat (or who can’t beat us). We just need to get it all together at once. For this next week we need to play flawlessly because the Cards are coming in hungry. Smash them in the mouth, shut them down on 2nd down and run/short pass them all day. Go Bucs!

  39. jjbucfan Says:

    All Gators couldn’t wait to get rid of Bobo Wilson, he may not have been great but he was head and shoulders above the slot receivers we have. To keep Perriman and force Sotty Miller upon the fans and cut Bobo instead of simply moving him off punt return and keeping him as the slot guy shows where team management is. Yes Bobo wasn’t great, damn he may not have even been good but he was a hell of a lot better than anything else on this roster. I say this because Arians has already said he is not moving a TE to the slot. Justin Watson must have slept with someones wife, sister, daughter, brother or son. Dude is buried!!

  40. Hodad Says:

    That picture of Scotty Miller says all you need to know about Jason Licht’s eye for talent. That lil be wouldn’t strike fear in a high school secondary. What a joke this team is.

  41. Bucfan1988 Says:

    Wow, bloggers are really beating down Scotty Miller.
    Look, this kid has obvious talent and breakaway speed.

    Y’all forget he’s a small school kid playing in a league with the best athletes in the sport of football. Cut him a break, geez…
    Miller will learn…He needs to focus on setting up his routes and not getting pushed to the sidelines. Get that dude in space, not the deep ball right now.
    C’mon Leftwich!!

    That was a fluke situation with him stepping out of bounds. Get over it. Dora is so-called hold was a plain BS call…Seattle o-line was holding all game and NOTHING was called. Saw one play where Golston’s jersey was almost ripped off, and NO Call made…

  42. jjbucfan Says:

    I’m not beating him down, just stating the fact the Wilson is better at this point. No idea what’s going on with Watson though- that is a mystery. To get no looks is a crime, IMO