Rebuilding Jaboo

October 2nd, 2019

Perfect match?

Don’t get bored with the beginning of this story.

Joe has already written how former Rams Super Bowl quarterback Vince Ferragamo told a Los Angeles TV audience last week he thought America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, was playing the best ball of his career.

And Ferragamo said the reason is Jameis works for a dynamite quarterback coach, Bucco Bruce Arians.

After Sunday’s game, Joe asked Arians about Ferragamo’s words. Arians told Joe, “I can’t take any credit for that.” Instead, Arians praised his staff working with Jameis.

To read former Jets and Dolphins general manager Mike Tannebaum’s words, Arians ought to start taking credit. That’s because, Tannebaum types, Arians seems to have rebuilt Jameis.

Joe is as geeked as just about any fan how Jameis has begun to light up the league. Now, let’s see the Bucs sustain success.

As the one and only Chris “Mad Dog” Russo said two weeks ago, the Bucs have a history in recent years of not handling success well and often follow up a signature win with a nut-punching signature loss.

A few days after Russo mentioned this, the Giants thing happened.

42 Responses to “Rebuilding Jaboo”

  1. ATLBucs Says:

    We will see Sunday. Bridgewater is throwing about 85% of his passes within 20 yards so we should be able to exploit that with our press corners.

  2. Lamarcus Says:

    It helps that JW is elite at breaking sacks. I seen break Von Miller, Mack, Donald, break Nick Bosa ankles , and a list goes on. You really have to have 2 guys take him down. Rarely a single guy sacks him easily.

  3. Swampbuc Says:

    . Better hope the OL continues to stud out and Then a week after the Giants thing happened the Rams thing happened.

    In Arians first season, his team went 10-6 after starting 3-4. Don’t anyone anoint them if they win or jump off a ledge if they don’t. This offense is still not where it can be and now with the film from the Rams game, expect more heat dialed up on Jameis and his best-in-NFL QBR against the blitz. And cover someone defense is better than cover no one defense.

  4. FanO’Bucs Says:

    Very satisfied with these coaches.

    GO BUCS!

  5. July Joe Says:

    Jameis has a PERFECT 158.3 passer rating against the blitz this year … that is insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    But yeah, there are still IDIOT “fans” that want to run him out of town.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

  6. Lamarcus Says:

    And saints don’t have a chance. M Thomas will have 18 catches for 97 yards tho

  7. FanO’Bucs Says:

    Great job by Jameis, btw. Remarkable!

  8. PriMech54 Says:

    Jameis Winston being elite against the blitz is nothing new. His numbers over his career outside the pocket/on 3rd down/ against the blitz have historically been top flight although ignored.

    And don’t look now but he’s picking up Arians’ offense faster than any other quarterback ever has.

  9. BUCnDaDDy Says:

    Winston getting his mojo back, genuinely look like he had fun last Sunday!

  10. BucAllNight Says:

    JW the 100 Million Dollar Man…Lock him up now Jason

    Then Trade for JPP

    And Lock up or Franchise Tag Sack Barrett

    Go Bucs!!

  11. BucAllNight Says:

    *Trade for Pat P

  12. Jean Lafitte Says:

    Last game he got rid of the ball early. He didn’t hold it like he had been doing. I think Jameis is becoming comfortable with Leftwich’s game planning and trust himself to execute. He will still make mistakes, but what QB doesn’t.

    His needle is moving up.

  13. Jean Lafitte Says:

    Plus I think Leftwich is understanding what plays Jameis excels at and is incorporating them into his play calling to start the game. Putting Jameis in a position to succeed.

  14. Alaskan Abdominal Snowman Says:

    Dang man, PriMech you said what I was thinking. Jameis has always been elite in that category.

    I told y’all last week when people were freaking out, that this is a team that is on an upward trajectory. Even that Giant game was a great offensive outburst but it turned into a learning experience for this young team.

    I don’t even thing we’ve hit our stride yet. By week 10-12 we should be rollin and when the offense, defense, and special teams all show up together each week… watch out boy!!!! Maybe just maybe this ain’t your SOB (same ol’ Bucs).

  15. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    Jamesi is settling in with his new and improved game management habits. It may take several more games before they become “second nature” for him.

    You nailed it, PriMech54, Winston seems completely comfortable in BA’s offense already. I am sure it has not been completely installed for the team yet.

    I can’t wait to see how he performs against the Saints’ defense.

  16. Rod Munch Says:

    Just for the fun of triggering some folks I’m going to say Winston’s improvement is directly tied to dumping Humphries. Winston got himself into trouble quite a bit trying to get the ball to the midget – and now that he’s gone look at the improvement.

    I don’t 100% believe that… not 100% anyways. But I think I’ll say it going forward just to p/o the Hump crowd that thought he could do no wrong and was a #1 WR and the team would fall apart without him…. yes, there were people like that here when he left.

  17. Joe in Michigan Says:

    What Rod Munch said, but replace Humphries name with D Jax.

  18. Defense Rules Says:

    Jean Lafitte … Your point about Jameis becoming more comfortable with Leftwich’s play-calling is an excellent one. But I think it also has worked in the other direction too … BA & Leftwich are becoming more comfortable with Jameis, and have become better able to create situations that play to his strengths but mitigate his weaknesses.

    But I HOPE that Bucs’ fans don’t overlook the real story from Sunday & start believing that the Bucs’ victory was all about Jameis. It was a true TEAM EFFORT all across the board … COMPLIMENTARY FOOTBALL at its finest. Our OLine did a great job of protecting Jameis against a SB-caliber DLine. Our receivers came up BIG, especially Godwin, ME13, OJ, Cam & Dare who together were 25-of-31 (80%) for 346 yds (90% of the passing yardage). Our running game wasn’t phenomenal (30 rushes for 88 yds), but it was effective enough to score 2 TDs in the Red Zone AND to eat up the clock (Bucs won the TOP battle 32:36 to 27:24 by running on 42% of our plays).

    Our defense gave up 34 points to the vaunted Rams’ offense (4 TDs & 2 FGs), BUT they let the Rams’ offense know that they were in a dogfight. Good old-fashioned smashmouth football. Shutting down the Rams’ running game was huge, but the Rams responded well.. Our D didn’t get as much pressure as I’d hoped they would, but they still got plenty to keep Goff off-balance. And most importantly, they made him commit mistakes … FOUR turnovers for starters, one of which resulted in 7 pts for us. Turnovers which our offense graciously turned into 21 pts … true COMPLIMENTARY FOOTBALL. It’s all coming together nicely.

  19. Defense Rules Says:

    Rod … Too early for that (?) because BA & company never got their hands on Humphries or DJax. IMO we still don’t have a true slot receiver (like Hump) OR deep ‘speed-burner’ (like DJax), but we’re actually better off, at this point at least. BA & BL are using the run game a LOT more effectively than Koetter ever did, and that’s allowing other receivers to come into play. It’s changed the ‘options’ that Jameis now has available on each play, and that’s a very good thing IMO. Plus Chris Godwin has really stepped up to take advantage of more targets, and he’s come up HUGE in the process. Still, it’s a work in progress at this point.

  20. Rod Munch Says:

    Defense Rules – Winston got in a lot of trouble trying find Hump over the middle, at least that’s the feeling I always had watching it. The stats however don’t back that up, at least the stats available don’t show in particular trend that I could find. But Hump certainly did cost us huge when he fumbled at Buffalo and lost the game – he never took the heat he should have for that.

    I actually would have preferred they kept him, and certainly I’d rather have had him over Perriman – but if we keep Hump, we don’t have the money to sign Shaq. So I say it worked out OK if you look at it that way.

  21. CalBucsFan Says:

    You are absolutely right DefRules, this was one of the best games I’ve seen the Bucs play in years. I especially loved the disbelief and shocked reaction by all my SoCal neighbors when their Lams went down 21-0 when they all thought it would be a cake-walk game!

    Maybe not as many sacks all around, but Goof (pun intended) looked dazed and confused by all of the defensive variations Bowles threw at him. It was so good to see the young ones are learning to win, but The Bucs need to tighten up their coverage.

    The question is, can they do it on the road back-to-back to both of last year’s NFC Championship teams? A win Sunday, even without facing Brees, would be tremendous. Go Bucs!

  22. SenileSenior Says:

    Good points, Defense Rules, guys.

    The whole game was about the whole team and not just Winston.

    I am not overlooking New Orleans with or without Brees. I am expecting a dogfight in this upcoming game. I really don’t quite know what to expect. I do respect the Saint’s defense.

    As a fan I am trying to be like they keep preaching to the guys. “Don’t get to high and don’t get to low.” Take them one at a time.

    Being a fan I want us to win every game of course.
    Go Bucs!!! Whup the Saints!

  23. SenileSenior Says:

    Good night y’all. I’m going to bed.

  24. Defense Rules Says:

    Rod … No question in my mind that money (salary Cap) drives the train. Some teams are much more effective at using it than others. Personally I tend to favor some semblance of BALANCE between the offense & the defense in terms of cost, and that’s what has hurt us in recent years … we’ve become very lopsided, favoring offense. Bucs’ offense is the most expensive in the NFL ($101.3 mil), but our defense only comes in at #28 in terms of cost ($54.9 mil). Even our S/Ts ranks higher at #20 cost-wise ($3.7 mil).

    We couldn’t have afforded Humphries in any event. Add one more high-dollar offensive player to our roster and who do you cut? Bobo Wilson? Justin Watson? Reality is that the money has to come form SOMEPLACE and it’d have to be an equivalent amount (or we’d go over the salary Cap).

    I have a hunch that our 2020 & 2021 teams will look considerably different from what we’re seeing here in 2019. JPP’s no longer under contract for next year, and I suspect that Barrett will get a BIG raise (and well-deserved if he keeps playing like he has in these first 4 games). If Jameis keeps playing like he has in these last 2 games, he’ll get re-signed also. Godwin & Howard are under contract through 2020, but they’ll both want to be paid in 2021 also. Some BIG tabs coming up on the offensive side, and we’ve already got the most expensive offense in the NFL. I wonder what’ll give.

    Our defense is VERY young … and thus VERY inexpensive. But next year I suspect that Barrett & Suh will be making a LOT more than they’re making this year, while the others are pretty well set for now (our ENTIRE Secondary … 10 players … only makes $9.0 mil in TOTAL, LESS than what Donovan Smith, Ali Marpet or Ryan Jensen make INDIVIDUALLY). Sooner or later, they’ll all want to be paid also. Interesting times ahead me thinks.

  25. Defense Rules Says:

    CalBucsFan … Yes, I think we can do it in back-to-back games. The only question is WILL WE. Sean Payton & the Saints will learn from what we did in the Rams game. For one thing, I don’t think they’ll give up on the running game as easily as the Rams did. Teddy Bridgewater is a very good game manager IMO, but he’s mostly effective with the shorter stuff. And that’s what Sean Payton loves to do … beat you with the running game & the shorter passing game. Even though they’re 3-1, they’ve only scored 4 passing TDs & 2 rushing TDs TOTAL thus far this season (Bucs scored 6 TDs with our offense just against the Rams).

    The other big thing that’ll come into play is that the Saints don’t make mistakes … aka, turnovers. They’ve only made FOUR TOs in 4 games TOTAL (3 INTS & 1 Fumble). They don’t beat themselves IOW. HOPEFULLY our defense can change that.

  26. ModHairKen Says:

    Look, at this point last year, some cat was making a fortune selling beards to fans and all anyone heard was “Fitzmagic.” And a week ago, fans were being talked off the ledge because a 22 year old kid in neon shoes kicked one wide.

    Perspective, people. P

  27. Chuckstutz Says:

    I can see a big difference in Jameis mechanics much more accurate with great touch.

  28. Son of Kobe Faker Says:


    Look at the sheep talk nonsense like they know something

    No one. No one knows more about Jaboo strength ,weaknesses and overall development than my Dad

    The reason JWs success after the 1st game vs the past 4 years is


    BA/BL has coached/forced/demanded JW not to ATTEMPT to throw to the doubles covered reciever

    With better presnap reads and understanding of what type pass defense and disguises, JW is throwing to the single covered wr

    Yes, Klueless told him this concept but still allowed the forcing of throws to ME, starting this year JW can not

    That 2 games emphasized what is happening. JW is not even looking or wasteing time/tempted to look into double coverage. Giants covered ME and he had a monster game. This past week, Godwin had single coverage and had a monster game

    The difference and statistically/mathematically reason why Jaboo is more successful is his better understanding of pass defense and accepting coaching”

    Son of Kobe Faker

  29. Gettinthebucs Says:

    It’s clear that Koetter wasted talent here. Man what could’ve been. Matt Ryan is looking like Old JABOO right now.

  30. DB55 Says:

    More like rebuilding the offensive line but wtfdik

  31. WyldKat Says:

    I refuse to believe. As soon as hope creeps in, it’ll get stomped to death and thrown overboard.

  32. Bobby M. Says:

    They are calling plays that suit his strengths much better and getting the ball out faster. He throws a solid ball under 20-30 yds, a possession receiver is going to be his best friend aka Godwin. His TEs will be his next and at some point if he ever learns to hit the check down quicker, Rojo may become a dangerous weapon in the passing game. How long you can hold all those players on the roster AND pay Winston AND keep the defense competitive….that remains to be seen.

  33. Rayjay1122 Says:

    Winston is NFC Offensive player of the week too!

  34. 813bucboi Says:

    Son of Kobe Faker Says:
    September 23rd, 2019 at 3:33 pm
    “My Dad and I still dont get it

    They didnt trust Jameis????

    They had him throwing deep non stop in the the 1st half!

    WTF is people looking at? non top deep passes to OJ and Evans

    pass after pass

    didnt trust him?

    the first half was scripted and JW ran the plays

    2nd half My Leftfoot started calling run run pass. sooner or later defenses will stop that

    last week 3-14 on 3rd downs

    this week 4-14 on 3rd downs and 1-5 on red zone

    thats playcalling 101


    watch what Marcus Peters and Talip on the outside and Darnold smashing the whole oline next week

    My Leftfoot vs Wayne Phillips

    Kobe and Son is the ultimate JW3 homers but

    next week Son of Bum Phillips is going to cause

    JW3 worst game in his NFL career”

    Son of Kobe Faker


    you’ve been bashing BYRON since TC… dont know sh!t!!!!!!!!

    BYRON exposed you, your daddy, wade phillips and dirk all in 1game!!!!!!!

    GO BUCS!!!!!!!

  35. 813bucboi Says:

    more like rebuilding the coaching staff!!!!!….

    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  36. orlbucfan Says:

    Has Brees retired yet? Bucs will win Sunday even if he was playing. Same with Brady who is pushing his luck. A defensive player is going to tackle him in a clean hit and that will be it. Ridiculous. GO MIGHTY BUCS SUNDAY!!

  37. unbelievable Says:

    Lol Rod get over the Hump thing already. He had a bad fumble but so has OJ, Godwin and prob even Evans.

    No one thought he was a #1 or even a #2 receiver lol, he just had a knack for getting open and was a good safety valve that fought for YAC. I don’t think Winston threw more INTs trying to hit him, in fact I’d guess most of them have been targets to Evans or Brate.

    Anyways who cares, he’s gone and our offense is starting to come together nicely. I’d love to see Watson step up as our 3rd receivers. Bobo is garbage and I can’t believe he’s still on the team after all these years.

  38. unbelievable Says:


    Kobe the welcher has been wrong about just about every prediction since he started posting here, pay him no mind.

    He promised to leave after he failed to predict our win against KC, but instead he whelched and just keeps posting his nonsense.

    The only thing he’s been right about was Dirk having bad play calling and not utilizing OJ Howard enough.

  39. 813bucboi Says:


    you right…..

    kobe and realist are in the same boat….

    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  40. unbelievable Says:

    @813 – truth!

    Rhealist just disappears when we start winning though, so that’s even worse. What a chump lol

  41. Oregonbucsfan Says:

    If Famous Jameis plays every game like the Ram game he will be in contention for MVP of the league. This from a critic.

    I hope he does- -it was fun beating a good team for once.

    Let’s see what happens the next few weeks.

  42. EEK Says:

    we got Arians which is just amazing

    Winston has a lot of healing to do for the fans to trust him

    If he can have 5 consecutive complete games, wow, that would be amazing and we would be a playoff team