Speed, Speed, Speed

May 29th, 2019

Rookie CB Sean Murphy-Bunting

Joe is often asked for impressions of Bucs spring practices.

Well, unfortunately, a healthy chunk of it is obstructed-view observation.

Imagine being invited to attend a concert but the promoter allows people to stand up in front of you and there are no video boards to follow the action. Oh, it might be a good time and you’ll see plenty, but you’re going to miss a lot of detail throughout the show.

That’s how Joe will describe Bucs spring practice for media in attendance. When the Bucs are playing 7-on-7 or 11-on-11, usually players and coaches not participating standing on the field between the media-approved area and the action. They could stand in many other spots that would not obstruct media, but that’s not how it goes.

Perhaps Bucs management thinks media will rush the field and disturb a play? So they want a line of defense to make that more difficult.

Regardless, Joe got a great vibe and feel for the overall team speed on display at yesterday’s practice. It really felt like a notch above what has been seen in past years.

Much of that is driven by the defensive backs, a very young and fast group being tested by a slew of fast receivers. It’s early and there are no pads, but at least the young DBs appear to have football speed that matches or exceeds their 40-yard dash times. And that’s not always the case (See 2018 M.J. Stewart).

Joe asked America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, about the young defensive backs, and Jameis gushed, which is no surprise. But he did reference the aggressiveness.

“All of the rookie defensive backs are doing well. I think [defensive coordinator] Coach Todd Bowles does a great job of getting those guys to attack the football,” Jameis said. “I mean, they have one of the greatest cornerbacks probably of all time with Coach [Kevin] Ross on their side. He was a dog back there in the secondary with the Kansas City Chiefs so I’m excited to see them. I’m happy to see Vernon [Hargreaves] coming on the field bringing energy and [being] back to his full self so we’ve just got to keep getting better and keep growing.”

Bucco Bruce Arians talked about the defensive backs a bit, too, and he clearly has set a high standard and is driving them to make and finish plays — big plays.

The overall team speed is good to see. That can only be a positive. Joe is most eager to see how Arians ultimately uses the elite speed of a healthy O.J. Howard.

61 Responses to “Speed, Speed, Speed”

  1. DooshLaRue Says:

    Americas’ Gusher.

  2. Todd Says:


    Was Cam Brate out there?

  3. NOSBOS Says:

    Mmm hmm,told y’all those young youthful exuberant legs would be on display. We about to mirror some people next season.

  4. NOSBOS Says:

    Todd,do me favor and YouTube Anthony Auclair real quick. There’s a 4 minute video a guy I did. After watching him manhandle starting DEs and LB,I mean planting people in the dirt. You come away realizing Cam days here may be done.

  5. NOSBOS Says:

    Not to mention the Bucs app notes say he’s catching every pass.

  6. NOSBOS Says:

    But some of you go ahead thinking we about to be p***¥. I bet you won’t bet nun.

  7. NOSBOS Says:

    Where you at louden,holla at me succaneers. Pull those Big banks out and wager a lil something.

  8. Alanbucsfan Says:

    The below linked article describes how speed at linebackers and secondary are most effective at stopping the run, while speedy end rushers are less effective at stopping the run.
    Idea may be to put the offense in passing situations and then use speed to blitz.
    This may also explain Bucs draft picks.


  9. Todd Says:


    Wow. Beast. Buh-Bye Brate…hellos $7MM in cap!

    What’s taking so long?

  10. EvolvingBucsFan Says:

    For many years I have seen us not come out and match other teams game speed where we seemed sluggish. Last year we had a few games we started fast and fizzled out, Just hope they can bring Speed and intensity the full 4 quarters especially on defense, just don’t give up the booty gentlemen.

  11. DooshLaRue Says:


    You made that video?

  12. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    Expect way more sacks, caused by the coverage of all these newcomers.

  13. NOSBOS Says:

    😮That’s what I came away thinking Todd. Duche I work for a living broski,don’t have time to do that type of thing.

  14. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Speed kills! I love the significant improvement. It’s not just DB’s…remember White turned in a blistering 40 for any sized player but put his hulk body behind the speed and there is not only great coverage but somebody is going to take some solid smacks when that speed X size = momentum/power arrives.

    My only disappointment so far besides the obvious bummer of JPP’s injury is Perriman’ injury. This guy has elite speed…ran two SUB 4.3 40’s back to back in his pro day. There is no question he can fly. He has adequate hands…however he also a history of injury problems.

    The Buc’s have 4 million gambled…if Perriman can’t get healthy by training camp he may not end up as a Buc.

    I do not know Perriman’s contract. How much of the 4 million is guaranteed if he doesn’t make the final roster? All of it? None of it? If it’s the latter it’s get healthy or bye bye.

    If this was his first injury I wouldn’t be concerned but injuries are one of the major reasons he has yet to justify a #26 pick in the draft. I think a healthy Perriman could really help. But if he’s unavailable due to injuries he has no ability.

  15. pepsi Says:

    Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa, you’re expecting a bunch of rookies to be locking down NFL vets? I wish I shared that optimism but the Bucs have stripped it away from me over the years.

  16. NOSBOS Says:

    Pepsi go watch The Humprehy kid bama rookie season wit the ravens. Go watch William Jackson rookie season. Go watch Denzel Ward rookie seasons. Watch Jaire Alexander rookie season. If you can ball you can ball man.

  17. NOSBOS Says:

    I left out the rookie season of the kid for the aints because he’s a rival and don’t wanna give him props.

  18. NOSBOS Says:

    These young corners this league oozing with confidence and ready to ball. Maybe you sleep. I’m not.

  19. SCBucsFan Says:

    To those throwing Brate away, I offer up 2 points – first, on Auclair, its a highlight reel, of course he’s going to look great when viewing his best plays. Second, outside of Evans, JW is more in sync with Brate then anyone else on the offense. In the red zone (where we struggle) Brate is very effective.

  20. NOSBOS Says:

    Alanbucfan now that’s the information right there broski. Not sure if they’ll get it or not. But that’s new era defense right there sir.

  21. AwShbucs Says:

    Just a friendly reminder to all do not make wagers with Nosmaal because he wont pay you for 3 months but not the full amount wagered. That’s just what I heard.

  22. Todd Says:

    Wait. What happened to Perriman? I missed that.

  23. AwShbucs Says:

    His shoulders a little busted up from diving for a catch. He should be fine.

  24. Todd Says:



  25. Siege the Bay Says:

    We overpaid for Cam Brate and then drafted his replacement the same season! It was a stupid move. Brate has to go, OJ is better and Auclair is cheaper. This is a business, stupid financial moves is how we end up with a 5-11 record AND no cap space to boot!

  26. Siege the Bay Says:

    Also I am of the opinion that lockdown athletic DB’s can fix a whole defense, and that the d-line wasn’t as big a problem as the DB’s. Go Bucs!

  27. SenileSenior Says:

    Might I say “A swarming defense.” Keywords, speed and aggression.

    Go Bucs!!!

  28. Joe Says:

    We overpaid for Cam Brate and then drafted his replacement the same season! It was a stupid move. Brate has to go, OJ is better and Auclair is cheaper. This is a business, stupid financial moves is how we end up with a 5-11 record AND no cap space to boot!

    Well, Auclair really hasn’t proven himself to be reliable in games (yet). Flashes here or there. And Howard has yet to demonstrate he can play a full season. Each of his two seasons have ended on injured reserve.

    And Brate is the only tight end in the NFL to catch at least six TD passes each of the last three seasons. The Bucs have made a lot of stupid moves in the Lost Decade. Don’t think keeping Brate is one of them.

  29. NOSBOS Says:

    When someone can show me any footage of Brate blocking the way Auclair clearly shows he’s capable of on his highlight reel then maybe he’s a keeper. If not he’s a ginger. BA mentioned Auclair as tough guy that can block just yesterday.

  30. Erik Hesson - Fine Artist - City of St Pete (formerly known as 'The Kwon Alexander of Bucs Fans') ***Rhealist, louden annoying, & tminimum are the worst posters ever!!! Says:


    If you were trying to bet that the Bucs would have a DOWN year, I would totally bet you…

    But I’m envisioning alot of plays being made on both sides of ball and a playoff run, so I can’t wager you…

    And just for the record, I think I’m the only confirmed JBF’er to ever come through on a bet payment when I bought Buc1987 a Winston Jersey a few years ago after we drafted Winston instead of Mariota…

  31. NOSBOS Says:

    You mention those 6 TDS as if they make cam elite. What you don’t mention is how they mainly come inside the redzone largely in part because other members of the offense draw attention away from him.

  32. Erik Hesson - Fine Artist - City of St Pete (formerly known as 'The Kwon Alexander of Bucs Fans') ***Rhealist, louden annoying, & tminimum are the worst posters ever!!! Says:


  33. stpetebucsfan Says:


    “I left out the rookie season of the kid for the aints because he’s a rival and don’t wanna give him props.”

    I like the way you roll! You are clearly all in brother! You’ll be the guest of honor at Todd’s post season victory bash.

  34. NOSBOS Says:

    Alanbuc,I’ll be reading that tonight when I get off. Sounds like we’re following suit to the “T”.

  35. unbelievable Says:

    Damn nosbos you’ve really been going off lately. I like the enthusiasm,

    But my question is– if we end up sucking again, are you going to actually stick around through the whole season, or you gonna go mia again?

  36. 813bucboi Says:

    the DB’s are playing faster because they dont have to think as much….they’re able to just line up and run with their man….

    GO BUCS!!!!

  37. tmaxcon Says:

    And Brate is the only tight end in the NFL to catch at least six TD passes each of the last three seasons.

    HOW MANY BASEMENT TITLES DID THOSE TD CATCHES TRANSLATE TO??? Brate like hump are easily replaceable mediocre players low standard bucfan falls for because of their lack of upside, lack of elite talent and no personality…. most popular players are mediocre and lose quietly that is a Buccaneer man

  38. SCBucsFan Says:

    NOSBOS who is drawing attention away from Brate to make him good? DJax? Hump with his 5 TDs? A running back (lol)? OJ? Only Evans draws any attention.

  39. NOSBOS Says:

    unbelievable if you think I’m going off countering all the pessimistic sentiment on this site,imagine how surly I be here everyday when the ship ain’t right. I’m back in here mainly because of one reason my friend. Bruce Arians. Were it not for him I would’ve probably never come back to this loser @$$ site. Blake called me and told I should get back on here I was like I know bro,I’m not particularly fund hanging around negative @$$ people.

  40. NOSBOS Says:

    SC can you dispute my claim most of his TDS have come in the redzone???

  41. SCBucsFan Says:

    As I say above, in my original post, that he is very effective in the red zone I’d have a hard time disputing most of his TDs have come in the red zone. That’s what makes him effective!

  42. NOSBOS Says:

    That my point SC,I don’t think it takes a great deal of skill to simply run 10 yards into the end zone and turn around and wait for the ball. Trust me bro Anthony can do that also.

  43. NOSBOS Says:

    Now the question that remains is can cam execute what Anthony has a penchant for. And that is pile-driving DEs and LBs into the ground. You luke kuehly fanboys should ask him how did it feel having that 6’6 256lbs coming down on top of him.

  44. SCBucsFan Says:

    NOSBOS LOL that’s why TE is so easy to play. Anyone can do it. 3 in the NFL – Ebron, Kelcec, Ertz – had more than Brate last year but anyone can do it. Even Auclair.

  45. SCBucsFan Says:

    Make me a highlight film of all of Auclair’s TDs. Oh wait, that won’t be a very long film. But pile driving DEs puts points on the board.

  46. Bucsfanman Says:

    I had to scroll up to remind me what the story was about!
    SPEED! That’s right Buc fans, we got a whole lot faster on defense. A LOT!

  47. Defense Rules Says:

    @Joe … “And Brate is the only tight end in the NFL to catch at least six TD passes each of the last three seasons.” True statement Joe, but his productivity has gone downhill every season since 2016. That was a great year for him (pre-OJ) … 57-of-81 (70.4%) for 660 yds & 8 TDs (and in only 15 games to boot).

    Played all 16 games next 2 years but his numbers keep sliding (post-OJ) … 48-of-77 (62.3%) for 591 yds & 6 TDs in 2017. Then 30-of-49 (61.2%) for 289 yds & 6 TDs in 2018. Yds.target kept sliding too. It’s heading in the wrong direction for someone making $7 mil IMO. I think Cam will survive this year as a Buc though (Jameis’ safety blankie in the Red Zone) but unless he turns in a great year, being a Buc in 2020 would be a lot less likely.

  48. SCBucsFan Says:

    DR remember last year he played with a hip problem all year. You would expect his numbers to go down. I’m not arguing one way or another whether we should keep him I’m just saying he’s very productive and productive players cost money.

  49. jjbucfan Says:

    Anyone questioning why Brate numbers are down should remember 2 words…Dirk Koetter. There were ways for him to get both OJ and Brate on the field together, he couldn’t deviate from his “plan”. Same way he couldn’t get the RBs the ball out of the backfield or the way he couldn’t stop doing end rounds with Hump instead of D Jax or Bobo. Dude sucked, I don’t care what the numbers showed, the eyes showed different. Arians will find a way to get the hot hand the ball and will not telegraph every play call.

    NOS- I’m usually on par with you brotha but Auclair had some huge drive-killing holding penalties. I think he can get better but he isn’t Brate in the passing game, just like Brate isn’t Auclairin the blocking game. In this league, as you know, you have to have both. If Auclair can catch a couple of 3rd down balls or even a couple of TDs he has outperformed why he is here. Everyone is looking to dump his 7 mill, that is okay with me, but those TDs are tough to replace and that is in a time that we could not score TDs. JMO

  50. Wesley Says:

    I wouldn’t let the media get too close to my team either. These guys don’t need distractions.

  51. SOEbuc Says:

    Things SOEbuc mentioned in a previous DB article:

    -Tedd Bowels likes large CBs

    -Dean (6’2″) is a speedy ballhawk

    -BA mentioned Dean returned pic six in PC to win at the end of practice. VH3 dropped a pick six which BA seemed upset about

    -Dean played opposite Carlton Davis at Auburn

    Drop JPP and VH3 and pick up a good RG. DEAN OUTSIDE OPPOSITE DAVIS!!!

  52. NOSBOS Says:

    JJ I can accept holding an occasional holding penalty when you put forth the level of effort Auclair does when it comes to blocking. SC,Cam ain’t Kielce bro never was never will be. DCs gameplan for Kielce, no one will ever gameplan for Cam. With Auclair and O.j on the field the illusion of pass or run is always present. Once cam enters the game the illusion is gone.

  53. NOSBOS Says:

    Not to mention Anthony is proving to have sticky hands.

  54. SenileSenior Says:

    Sometimes it only takes one comment to take anything that JoeBucsFan posts in a different direction from the original topic.

    When looking up from the bottom up as we have for the past 11 years here in Tampa Bay anyone that is productive can look great. We haven’t had an array of great stars since our super bowl team. Kwon, Hump and Brate made many of us love them because of their good performance on the field.

    I am reminded of Dave Moore who had a solid career in the NFL. He was one of my favorites because it seemed as if he always came up with a clutch play when it was needed when he played for us. He of course isn’t remembered in the same light as A-Train, Ronde, Lynch, or Brooks for example.

    Whether Brate or Auclair will have the better career in the long run I don’t know. Frankly, I had not thought about that until reading the discussion here today.
    Go Bucs!!!

  55. SenileSenior Says:

    Apparently Perriman injured his shoulder (a bruise only, I hope) when he dove for a pass. Maybe, you are “not supposed to do that” in underwear football. In previous days this was called hustle and it was considered a good thing. Nowadays the catch phrase is “The best ability is availability.” You are considered foolish by some and maybe even injury prone if you keep getting injured for that kind of reason.


  56. Dirty Bucs Says:

    Tmaxipad really is an irritable bloodstain, isn’t he?

  57. NOSBOS Says:

    Senile they’ve forgotten over the last decade what “Buc Ball” stood for. You use to be able to associate the word with Rugged. That Super Bowl winning team was rugged. I hype those type now and I’m met with criticism. I wonder why??? Maybe it’s the 93 effect suppose. Don’t matter none,see BA getting back to the rugged round these parts I assure them all.

  58. BucHead588 Says:

    I think MJ is going to be a surprise in our secondary this year like everyone is counting him out I remember when everyone was pumped up with his play when he was forcing fumbles I think there was a lack of coaching an the speed of the NFL was just to much to process last year as a rookie

  59. NOSBOS Says:

    588 I personally classify MJ as rugged. Trust me they are aware of his physical nature.

  60. NOSBOS Says:

    Just wait til these pads come on. We gone soon see who wit it.

  61. NOSBOS Says:

    Yo Alanbuc,👍🏾great read bro. We’ll get a look at our version real soon.