Early Morning Mockery

April 5th, 2019

Oh boy, here we go!

As Joe is trying to come up with a catchy lede paragraph (not a typo), Joe is actually giggling because the following is so wild.

Now Joe doesn’t think much of mock drafts. We’ve been over this time and time again over the years. But this mock draft was so out there, Joe had to link to it. And it comes from the same crowd that tried to hoodwink people into believing tight end O.J. Howard was the worst rookie in the NFL two years ago.

Yes, Joe’s talking about the notorious PFF tribe.

This crowd got Joe’s attention with who they expect the Bucs to draft. And, intelligently, the PFF tribe believes the Bucs will draft an edge rusher and his name is Montez Sweat of Mississippi State.

So far, so good, right? Well yeah, Joe thinks that guess is just about perfect. But get a load of this: The PFF tribe believes the Bucs will get a steal with Sweat. Why? Because the PFF tribe predicts the Bucs will draft Sweat with the 39th pick in the draft — in the second round!

Joe just cannot fathom Sweat falling that badly short of him going full-blown Laremy Tunsil and getting busted for using a bong mask on draft night. If the Bucs somehow get Sweat in the second round, that’s the steal of the century!

So who does the PFF tribe believe the Bucs will pick at No. 5? No, not an inside linebacker (they aren’t that demented) but instead an offensive tackle, this Jonah Williams at Alabama.

That seems rather high for Williams but it also shows that the PFF tribe has their heads stuck in a spreadsheet and are ignoring or are willfully ignorant of a few facts (Joe’s guessing they still despise Donovan Smith so much they are simply blind to anything outside of the Bucs running him out of town).

Months before Bucco Bruce Arians was hired he did a sitdown with Barstool Sports where he noted that if you draft an offensive lineman, you are developing him for the next coach. That also may explain why the Bucs re-upped their two starting tackles. The Bucs, in salary cap hell for 2019, surely aren’t going to pay Demar Dotson or Smith (handsomely) to ride the pine.

Arians has stated for the record he is not interested in rebuilding.

That sure doesn’t smell like a coach that wants to reach for a tackle at No. 5.

Now the PFF tribe mentioned how Williams could play guard. Still, No. 5 for a guard not named “Quenton Nelson” is pretty steep.

Look, if these crackpots really believe Sweat will slip to the Bucs in the second round (sometimes, Joe honestly cannot swallow that these masqueraders actually believe what they tout), Joe will be the first to give them props. That just seems like a whole bunch of sorcery has to happen for the Bucs to pull that off.

30 Responses to “Early Morning Mockery”

  1. Anonymous Says:

    Mockery indeed….

  2. J Says:

    White, all day long. It just makes too much sense with the moves BA is making Licht make.

  3. D1 Says:

    Lol, Tunsil !
    Met him Saturday and had an opportunity to hang out for a few hours. Super nice guy and He represented the Cowboys well. Not a single kid , high school , knew anything about his draft.
    We had close to 10 college players, they knew zip.

  4. Anonymous Says:

    Trade down for Sweat maybe, but it is impossible for a guy with measurables better than Jadaveon Clowney to fall to the 2nd rd.

  5. catcard202 Says:

    If PFF had the Bucs dealing down & stealing Sweat between picks #10-15…I could maybe buy it… But there’s absolutely no chance the Bucs take LT @ 5…Nor will Sweat drop into the 2nd.

    There’s a better chance of the Licht drafting Haskins @ 5 & Jacobs @ 39, than J. Williams/Sweat.

  6. John Says:

    Any news on beckwith??

  7. D1 Says:

    Can anyone explain how they’ve come to believe that picking the same player but say with the 5th pick is a reach , but if the pick was at 10 it worthwhile?
    It’s the view of the majority and I’m interested in how and why it is.

  8. THETRUTH Says:

    Of they draft an OLinemen and move him from the position he played in college that earned him they high draft pick than they are idiots !!! This than becomes experiment and this experiment with top 15 picks for Bucs has killed is since KEITH McCants days.

    You want tackle than draft the best tackle , you want DE draft best DE nit linebacker who maybe can transition to DE. THAT STUFF YOU DO WITH PICK in round 5-7

  9. Joeypoppems Says:

    The only way I can see him falling to the early 2nd round is if teams are still concerned over his heart condition come draft time.

    The combination of that plus the depth of the DL class this year could cause him to slide.

    Maurice Hurst was graded as a mid 1st round pick last year and he fell all the way to the 5th round because of his heart condition. His was more serious than Sweat’s but he can still slide for it.

    Crazy, unexplainable things always happen in the draft every year.

  10. Joeypoppems Says:

    But speaking of PFF, the PFF Buccaneers twitter account tweeted a couple days ago about Peyton Barber’s YPC on zone runs vs man runs.

    His YPC was higher in man runs but we ran more zone runs than man runs which is really interesting to me.

    People argue if the problem in the run game is the OL or RB, but what if its neither? What if they were just bad at the scheme they were being asked to do?

    We drafted press corners to play off zone. Would it be shocking if this was the case?


  11. JA Says:


    I have a question or two about your post. To put it euphemistically, I’m confused.

    “Lol, Tunsil !” (I’m with you there–so far, so good).

    “Met him Saturday and had an opportunity to hang out for a few hours. Super nice guy and He represented the Cowboys well.”
    Last time I checked he played for the Dolphins. Did he get traded? If not, which Cowboys did he represent? The ones that wear spurs?

    “Not a single kid , high school , knew anything about his draft.”
    This statement begs for more information. Something akin to a location or event type of would suffice.

    “We had close to 10 college players, they knew zip.”
    Once again, this statement would be more interesting if we, as readers of your post, knew where and under what conditions you met Tunsil and a supposed group of high school and college students that knew “zip” about his draft (apparently you didn’t either).

    And finally, there is something that’s been gnawing at me since I began trying to extrapolate information from your addled take … Did Tunsil let you try on his mask?

  12. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Even if D1 post is a bit confusing,you could have chosen the high road and just asked some questions without the insults. I’ve read a lot of D1 posts and he has good insight our team and its players,IMO.

  13. JA Says:


    Okay, that wasn’t the high road.
    However, if (when) I make a nonsensical post, please crush me.
    I will laugh along with the rest of you!
    If you cannot laugh at yourself than you have no business laughing at others.
    His post was early in the morning. Obviously he was … tired.
    This is supposed to be fun. Nothing more-nothing less.
    If I’ve offended you D1, I sincerely apologize.
    If inclined, please retaliate in kind.
    I promise to empathize with any deleterious comments you throw my way.
    Apparently, I have it coming.

  14. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Its all good , and if I took your post a bit too seriously ,then I too apologize.

  15. Pickgrin Says:

    I would not be opposed to drafting the best OT they can identify in the 1st Rd if the Bucs trade down 8-10 spots.

  16. The Buc Realist Says:

    I don’t see why some go nuts over the wacky mid versions of mock drafts!!!!!! It is just a fun and good way for the college player about to turn pro, get exposure to the fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And this is no where as wacky as what we were hearing last year!!!!!!! I even heard The Bucs in one mock draft, drafting a RB in the 1st last year!!!!!!!!!!!! Talk about making a stupid, ignorant, dominik style, buffoon of a draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2019 will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. LargoBuc Says:

    Im not opposed to Jonah Williams. I didn’t look at the mock draft but theres no way we draft Williams if Josh Allen or even Ed Oliver are still available.

  18. SB Says:

    Thanks for the laugh Joe

    Jonah @ #5!!!! Bwahahahahahahahaha

  19. SB Says:

    Those in the know have Jonah rated as the 3rd best OL in the draft.
    Only the Bucs would take him @ 5 overall!

  20. DBS Says:

    And there we have it once again. The PFF tribe. Notorious and Crackpots. But when Joe joe wants to use their stats to backup his point?

  21. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    I guess if you want attention you make idiotic predictions like Sweat falling to the 2nd round when nobody else thinks there is any chance of that. As far as the o-line, it does appear based on another site that the Bucs are looking at several right tackles that could fall to the early parts of the 2nd round. Based on who they are bringing in I won’t be the least surprised if they use that 2nd rounder on Dotson’s eventual replacement.

  22. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    LOL JA, I am with you. I guess he is friend’s with Bob. When someone posts a completely nonsensical take it is worth asking a few questions if one is curious. I do think that he probably did use Tunsil’s mask minutes before writing his comment.

  23. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    JA, great post above and always fun to read your thoughts.
    It would definitely be fun to watch the BUCS over a beer with fans like yourself.

  24. Joe Says:

    People argue if the problem in the run game is the OL or RB, but what if its neither? What if they were just bad at the scheme they were being asked to do?

    Joe has speculated before wondering if Dirk Koetter’s offense was good (or not) for running backs.

  25. JA Says:


    Sure, we’ll work something out …

  26. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    I picture all of us JBF’ers gathering up with JOE’s one day at a local sportsbar, watching a big BUCS game with playoff implications, and we are all wearing name-tags….

    My name is
    Etc etc etc

    LMAO now that would be something

  27. DI Says:

    Love Rocky and Bullwinkle
    Thanks for bringing back the memories Joe

  28. Slugglife Says:

    TB Demon- that’d be funny when TMaxcon shows up and he’s 245#, 6’6″ with 4 percent body fat and confronts the fools who always talk sht to him, while everybody else’s beer belly hangs out from under their work shirt.

  29. D1 Says:


    I agree with you that my comment was cryptic at best. It was for someone in particular and they understood.

    However, to your question. West Texas. The Cowboys set up across the state football camps. They are 1 day events for High school players. Basically, it’s brand building for the team. Various pro players and coaches attend , they don’t have to be a cowboy , although there’s supposed to be a current player and Coach in attendance.

    If they schedule a camp in a city which also has a D1 program, they invite both players and coaches to attend. So to your question High school players and college players attended.

    What I found humorous was the fact that no one remembers the draft in that group of players.
    And one of the previous attendees, who now is with the Packers, as a player He attended as (a high school , college and pro, ). Fast forward a few months after attending last year, He was pulled over for speeding and the police found weed in the car. I saw him 2 weeks ago and He was making fun of himself for being so careless and mentioned that He should have listened to the players while He attended the camps and laughed about his credibility warning others not to get caught up in off field situations that can impact on field opportunities.

    Again, it was to an individual and I should have directed it to them. If you don’t see the humor in it or the idea that a single mistake can cost a player millions , I don’t care in the least. I’m responding to your question because I agree that it was a mess and needed to be deciphered.
    And no I didn’t get to use the gas mask.

  30. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Slugglife Says:
    “TB Demon- that’d be funny when TMaxcon shows up and he’s 245#, 6’6″ with 4 percent body fat and confronts the fools who always talk sht to him”


    Haha, no DOUBT brother.
    That would be awesome LOL!!!