“Jameis Winston Is A Little Bit Of A Burden”

January 2nd, 2019

Labeled as a “Coach Killer.”

Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht made it clear: America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, will lead the Bucs in 2019.

Coaches interested in the Bucs job who want to bench Jameis need not apply.

For Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports, that’s going to doom the Bucs. Robinson seems to be of the mind that the likes of Cody Kessler, Ryan Tannehill, Brock Osweiler or Mike Glennon are better options than Jameis.

To boil this down to simple terms, what option is there at quarterback right now other than to gamble on a rookie who will likely lose? This year’s quarterback class is not thought to be overwhelming. At least Jameis already has one winning season under his belt.

Look, it’s not like the Bucs can’t move on from Jameis if he has a bad year. He’s currently only under contract for 2019. If Jameis stinks as he did earlier in the year, then find a new quarterback.

Given how Jameis ripped apart the Dixie Chicks in the final game of the season, why would anyone want to shove him out the door for, say, Tyrod Taylor?

You can watch Robinson’s full take below in the Yahoo! Sports video.

83 Responses to ““Jameis Winston Is A Little Bit Of A Burden””

  1. B Says:

    He has his good points and bad.
    Just think what he might accomplish with a decent run game!
    Bucs have let other Qbacks go who have had good success elsewhere.
    Let him play out his contract.

  2. Pete I Says:

    He just isn’t very good at his job. He isn’t terrible, although sometimes he is, and He isn’t great, although sometimes he is.

    He doesn’t have a winning record and his turnovers are practically off the charts.

    He has had a terrible character and still likely possesses those traits.

    He is on a list at NFL HQ for his off the field behavior.

    There are better options than Jameis.

    Being saddled with Jameis should give any coach pause. What coach wants to be told this is your QB, like it or not? One who is desperate for a job…

  3. Pete I Says:

    And I doubt Licht helped the cause any by his rather arrogant out of touch, presser the other day…

    It felt this was Licht’s actual message…Joe hit that right on the head!

    “Coaches interested in the Bucs job who want to bench Jameis need not apply.”

  4. Pete I Says:

    While ownership in Miami sucks almost as much as the Glazers, and a GM who may be no good like Tampa, at least in Miami it is likely a new coach will get to pick his QB.

    Unlike Tampa, Miami has likely ended the wait for Tannehill to be good. A wasted 7 years.

    The Bucs are 4 years wasted with another to begin soon.

    Lousy Ownership, Lousy GM, and a lousy QB – well certainly a horribly inconsistent one…what’s to like? What’s the draw?

  5. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Bruce Arians might be the only guy with the creds to turn around Jameis’s career and be willing to take on the job. We still a lot of problems on the O-line and at lack an explosive playmaker at RB. Licht has to do a much better job of building this defense. His lack of planning and use of bridge players who either don’t fit in or not vetted properly has made the defense weak in comparison to
    good defensive units.

  6. Rod Munch Says:

    Yahoo is literally fake news. They’re just extreme leftwing propaganda and at this point nothing but an arm of the Democrat party. Even worse they’re owned by Verizon, who also owns the Huffington Post. So if you’re a Verizon customer, you’re keeping Yahoo up and running.

    Anywho, anything written by the San Fran fake news cup cakes at Yahoo has about as much credibility as what’s written on the stall wall at your local Circle K.

  7. Rod Munch Says:

    Pete do me a favor and eat a bowl of ebola flavored Cheerios. The world will be a better place once you’re gone.


    God bless.

  8. Pete I Says:

    “To boil this down to simple terms, what option is there at quarterback right now other than to gamble on a rookie who will likely lose?”

    Keep a mediocre QB who will likely lose.

    And waste another year.

  9. gilhealy Says:

    Yahoo? Really? So what. Rod is right. Fake news at it’s finest. They’ve never written a good piece on Jameis. These people just spew what they’re told to spew. Obviously the Bucs feel much differently.

  10. Pete I Says:

    At least with a rookie you have the promise of the future.

  11. Joe Blahak Says:

    You keep him for one more year as a stopgap and a plan for replacement in 2020, be it drafting this year or a free agent QB

  12. DislocatedBucsFan Says:

    Jameis will be gone after next season barring a remarkable turnaround. He missed three games this year didn’t start 1 and played 1 half. He still managed to throw as many INT as TD’s. How can y’all JW fanboys justify his play?

  13. Pete I Says:

    @ Joe Blahak @ DislocatedBucsFan

    So a new coach has to be sure that is the case or why take the job?

    After Wilks 1 year stint in Arizona, who would be willing to take the Job being saddled with this one more year to know what we have QB?

    I wouldn’t want to be blamed if Winston is unsalvageable or fails…again!

  14. tiredoflosing Says:

    “Robinson seems to be of the mind that the likes of Cody Kessler, Ryan Tannehill, Brock Osweiler or Mike Glennon are better options than Jameis.”

    Wait, what?

  15. Tackleblockwin Says:

    It would be nice to have an efficient run game. The good news is that finding a good RB to pair with Barber is doable this offseason. Maybe tweak the oline a little and find the right HC that will pay more attention to the defense. What I don’t understand is how our GM has retained his job. I think even Joe mentioned on one of his podcasts that the GMs performance is probably average. I agree that our GM has just not been consistent enough to give the team a real chance with overall talent. Why is average ok after this many years?

  16. The Buc Realist Says:

    in other words, who ever the new head coach will be, they will be on the “hot seat” in 2020!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. Defense Rules Says:

    @Joe … “At least Jameis already has one winning season under his belt.” Let’s all hope THAT line isn’t what folks put on Jameis’ epitaph at the end of this coming season Joe.

    You’re pointing to Sunday’s game as justification for restricting our HEAD COACH search to ONLY those willing to accept Jameis as our LEADER. If in fact Licht is doing that, our next HC is doomed already … NOT because Jameis is bad, but because Licht will obviously be dictating the roster he’ll have to work with.

    And besides, Sunday’s game was pretty much a microcosm of Jameis’ 4-year career, just without as many turnovers. Falcons 2018 defense (#28 in YARDS ALLOWED was even worse than ours (#27 in YARDS ALLOWED) using your measure of effectiveness. Yet against that terrible defense Jameis & the Bucs managed only 22 first downs, 4-of-10 third down conversions, and 25 minutes time-of-possession. And we had a decent running game Sunday (20 rushes for 92 yds) and Jameis was only sacked once. He threw for 63% (his career average), with only 1 INT. And oh ya … we lost (by ONLY 2 points). Take a close look at the 8-of-12 drives that DIDN’T result in a TD though (and at the 2 failed 2-point conversions) & that’s where you’ll see the real microcosm of Jameis’ career. Within striking range but couldn’t git-er-done. Standard standard.

  18. Defense Rules Says:

    @Rod Munch … “Pete do me a favor and eat a bowl of ebola flavored Cheerios. The world will be a better place once you’re gone. LOL! God bless.”

    “Ebola flavored Cheerios?” Here it is the New Year and you’re STILL twisted Rod. And please stop asking God to bless that kind of a demented attitude. I’m pretty sure that He’s above that … even if you aren’t.

  19. Wiscobucsfan Says:

    Well, to those who think that we should keep winston as a stopgap I must say that is a terrible idea. If we don’t have intentions of making him the franchise QB and we just want to buy time to develop or acquire another Qb we need to release winston. If we are to bring in another young QB to develop we certainly don’t want winston to be his mentor.

  20. The Buc Realist Says:

    Its your favorite part of the season sheep!!!!!!! Its the window shopping offseason!!!!!!!!!!!!! But it is not time to inject a little truth into your lives!!!!!!!!!

    The “Realist Repost”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The Buc Realist Says:
    October 18th, 2018 at 3:07 pm
    The same flaws are happening again and the sheep don’t even see it!!!!!! Overestimating the talent, blaming coaches when their wrong assumptions of all the talent does not show up!!!!! The worst part is that the owners are just as guilty!!!!!! They will flush the coaching staff, and maybe the gm, thinking that the roster is loaded with talent, they will have to hire second rate coaches because the coaches directive will be to ” fix JW3″ and on defense to keep building around GMC because the owners #1 objective is to get gmc into that stupid ring of honor!!!!!!!!!! do the sheep want to know what happened to all that 3-4 that we never got to see but heard of consistently???????? GMC half azz it and did not want to play in it as it did not pad his stats!!!!!!!!!!

    Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. Loyaltotheend Says:

    Well he’s not wrong

    New coach has a long list of things to do

    -Fix Jameis’s turnovers and inaccurate throws
    -Fix the o line
    -Find a RB
    -Hire a competent defensive coordinator
    -Clean up the penalties and educate the players on situational football
    -create a winning hard nosed culture
    -hold players and coaches accountable
    -create a offense that hides Jameis’s flaws
    -our scheme good NFC south coaches 6 times a year

    Having a flawed QB just adds to the challenges of this job

  22. El_Buc941 Says:

    So who exactly is better than Jameis out there?….*crickets chirping.* As far as I know he’s capable of racking up points like crazy and keeping us in games against our NFC South rivals. Also the defense hasn’t been the best in the past years so to say to give Jameis a helping hand in winning games. You can’t expect your QB to win you all the games. Even Brady and Brees can’t win games on their own. Look at the first game of the season. Brees eacked up 40+ points and still didn’t win it.

  23. Jeagan1999 Says:

    Exactly why I would draft another QB this spring as insurance. Look at the scenarios:

    The Bucs don’t draft another QB and Jameis performs poorly…2 wasted years…..2019, and 2020 with a rookie QB.

    The Bucs draft another QB and Jameis performs poorly….the rookie QB gets some game experience in 2019 and hits the ground running in 2020!

    The Bucs draft another QB and Jameis performs well….the rookie QB learns for a year or two, and then the Bucs have a quality backup and/or trade him down the road for draft picks.

    Drafting another QB leaves the Bucs with better options.

  24. Loyaltotheend Says:

    Ya never know who could be better until you know who the coach is…

    Look at Foles, he’s out playing a 1st round pick. Goff was a bust until McVay came along, Case Keenum looked amazing in Minnesota and bad in Denver.

    So much contributes to success of a qb.All I know is Jameis isn’t the type of qb who can elevate a bad team to success. He needs to be propped up by a run game and defense to be successful which proves he’s not a franchise qb

  25. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Gotta love Joe’s perspective. Defense Rules numbers show Jameis may have ripped the falcon apart for 25 minutes. But the falcons won by ripping us apart
    the other 35 minutes. the team lacks an explosive playmaker out of the backfield.
    In Jason Licht’s presser Licht still seems to think ROJO needs to play better next year. The team needs to incorporate more motion and screens to our offense. To do that ,we will need players capable of setting up screens and disguising the play properly. Nolthing wrong with our WR screens out of the backfield, but screens out the backfield need improvement.

  26. lambchop Says:

    I’m all for playing Jameis next season. If he balls out, it’s great so that we can focus on other areas. If he bombs, then Tua in 2020. But if he bombs, please bomb horribly and inexplicably so we can have a clear cut answer to stop wasting time on him and so that we can get another #1 draft pick.

    That’s the problem with Winston so far, he is neither outstanding nor underwhelming enough. It’s middle of the road, and that’s just as bad as watching Ryan Tannehill play QB for your team. Where’s the consistency?

  27. Bird Says:

    Jameis has been an average qb throughout career.
    He has played better since benching . No question turnovers are down.
    He will get another year. I am fine with that.

    For those people who get all bent out of shape when Jameis is criticized is crazy.

    Arians would be best option for Jameis. However, I heard he turned down the packers head coach gig. He turned down Aaron Rodgers to coach Jameis. That seems unlikely. Maybe he does an old friend a favor but seems unlikely that he is bucs next coach.

    And the guy from yahoo is right. Some coaches may not want to be told who they are going to roll with. A losing franchise. Someone who is one off field mistake away from being banned in the league.

  28. Bird Says:

    Lamb chop

    Nailed it

  29. German Buc Says:

    Defense, I was upset about the two failed 2-pt-tries, too. But I blame coaching for the lack of creative ideas (look at Chicago, KC or the Rams) at least as much as execution. And when you are a QB and score a TD with 46 tics left on the clock in the first haf to give your team a 17 point lead you might assume you have helped your guys. But giving up a TD in 5 plays for 75 yards in just 26 seconds is a rare feature and then another one in the opening drive of the second half lead the way Sunday – and these two series can’t be blamed to the QB.

  30. German Buc Says:

    And Defense: Thank you for your reply to Rod Munch.

  31. Stevbobucsfan Says:

    What just don’t understand is, they say Jameis is a burden. I understand he’s been off and on and 22 mil is a lot for him being so inconsistent but what do you call K Cousins down in Minnesota at 87 mil and they didn’t make the playoffs and he didn’t preform well. How about Denver’s QB. C Keenan he didn’t proform well and Denver didn’t make the playoffs either .

  32. Kgh4life Says:


    What other QBs are actually better than Jameis? The free agency class for QBs is underwhelming, the 2019 QB draft is not great, Jameis has is flaws obviously, however, I’ll give him one more year under a new coach and see what happens.

  33. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Licht didn’t say Jameis would get an extension….he stated he would be here next year…….he didn’t even say Jameis would start…..that is assumed…..I think coaches knowing there is no long term attachment to Jameis would still be comfortable with another year.

  34. Pete I Says:

    Actually better? Who is slightly a less mediocre QB out there? Honestly who knows? The problem is we know what Jameis is and a new coach, saddled with that, is a problem. An incoming coach will want to know he won’t be blammed for what many see as inevitable.

    Another year to see what happens is very likely another wasted year.

    We need a plan B QB.

  35. Not there yet Says:

    Even though you’ve been proven wrong I keep hearing things like this job isn’t attractive and why would anyone want to coach Winston. It’s not a problem, the only problem this team has is finding a competent coach. You don’t like Winston that’s fine but just have to hear all the whining for another year whether he has a good game or not. Not playing a rookie and wasting another year because pathetic fans feel butthurt. This issue this team had has been fired what coach that couldn’t develop its young quarterback has ever kept his job over said quarterback? It doesn’t happen so I’m all in favor of you eating Ebola Cheerios if you still can’t accept Winston is coming back another year.

  36. Defense Rules Says:

    @Bob … “In Jason Licht’s presser Licht still seems to think ROJO needs to play better next year.” Kind of a given right there, isn’t it Bob. Is RoJo a ‘keeper’ or are there better options out there? When you only carry 3 RBs, the answer to Licht should be obvious: RoJo is not even close to being NFL-Ready, like 2nd-rounders should be (Licht blew it big-time on yet another 2nd rounder). RoJo should’ve spent the year on the Practice Squad, not taking up a critical spot on our 53-man roster. Can’t run inside, can’t block, can’t catch. And oh ya, not all that great at breaking tackles. What’s not to love.

    Peyton Barber’s a keeper (also a RFA this year). Jacquizz is a UFA now (bye bye). RoJo has shown me absolutely nothing (Practice Squad or bye bye). Pick up at least one stud RB in FA to complement Barber. Maybe two UNLESS we find a studly RB in the 4th or 5th round of the draft (can’t afford to use precious high picks this year on a RB IF we can find 1 or 2 in FA). Our top-3 picks should be OLine & DLine (with MAYBE a studly MLB in there depending on what happens with Beckwith & Kwon).

  37. DooshLaRue Says:

    @Rod Munch

    Ebola flavored Cheerios?
    You mean they taste like Ebola but don’t necessarily contain any Ebola?


    I expect more from a self-proclaimed “Fancy Man”

  38. Bobby M. Says:

    Here’s reality with Jameis…..look around the league and tell me what team would swap the QB situation they have for Winston.

    Broncos – Yes
    Jaguars – Yes
    Dolphins – Probably
    Giants – Yes
    Redskins – Yes, assuming Smith doesn’t recover

    Everyone else has a more proven commodity, invested in developing a younger prospect or has an equivalent with less headaches.

    That’s your franchise QB…..he’s potentially a better option for 4 teams. All this talk about it would be so much worse with developing a younger guy is ridiculous. In 4 yrs with Winston we’ve finished in last place 3 of 4 years while he’s had more turnovers then any QB in the league. We have no choice but to develop a younger QB for the sake of protecting ourselves. That’s what good teams do….Patriots have been drafting Brady’s replacement for years. Ravens went after Jackson to replace Flacco. Chiefs drafted Mahomes while they had Smith. That’s the business even when you have a proven commodity….Winston isn’t remotely proven.

  39. Pete I Says:

    Proven wrong by Winston? Hahahahahaha


  40. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    Last quarter of the season he drastically reduced his turnovers but they still hate him. He balled out in the last game of the season and they still act like the new coach will be burdened with Bortles. Winston has already proven he is a good QB. He owns almost every franchise record for a reason. The only reason a good coach may come here is because of Jameis.

  41. OneBuc55 Says:

    America’s most hated QB…

    Wether in person or at home, I watch every game…That being said, I think Jameis is alot better than he’s given credit for, and definitely not as bad as he’s made out to be…this this kid is literally nitpicked to death…media heads and fans that hate him only see the negatives and never even bother to acknowledge any of the positives…

    He came in rusty this year, which should have been expected…He lost all of first team reps in training camp and peaseason, and missed the first three games…That being said, I think he finished strong…People love to knock him for his record on the road but he’s never had the 3 things that a QB needs the most to win on the road…a defense, a running game, and a kicker…

  42. Easy Says:

    Winston is a fringe top 20 QB. If we do hire Arians I hope he doesnt have to resign midway thru the season with health problems because #3 gives him heart trouble.

  43. mark2001 Says:

    Nothing wrong with telling the new HC that he has to give Jameis a chance to compete for the job…and he will likely be the QB this year. If he stays out of trouble and refines a few things, no reason he can’t be our QB further on. But we have to be prepared to move on if it doesn’t work out. Jameis is a possible issue, but only one of many. Licht? The Glazers? The O line? Only one in a list of potential issues.

  44. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    The Giants & Jaguars are right behind us in the draft……with the Broncos, Dolphins & Redskins needing QBs we are in a very good position to trade a pick.

    I don’t think the QB class is good enough for teams to want to trade to positions 1-4……but at 5 they should have a willing partner with the Bucs…

    This way we can get an extra 2nd round pick that Licht can blow.

  45. SteveK Says:

    Dwayne Haskins

  46. Pete I Says:

    “That Licht can blow”


  47. Bucsfanman Says:

    The argument that the draft class is “underwhelming” is bullspit. Did anyone think that Russel Wilson would be this good? Brady, a 7th round pick? Foles, who just wins big games? Warner UFA?
    The Bucs are keeping him because he’s a #1 draft pick. If he were a 3rd or 4th round pick, he would’ve been shown the door already.
    Jameis has talent. That is not even a question. The question is whether or not he is a “franchise” QB for the next decade.
    The Bucs have bigger issues to deal with right now. Jameis will get his opportunity. As a Buc fan, I want him to succeed.
    If you’re a GM worth your weight in salt, you better have a Plan ‘B’.

  48. Bucs Fan #7423 Says:

    Jamies still has the brain of a child, he still needs a babysitter to coddle him and teach him to do things he should already be doing by now

    Geez this is embarrassing to be a bucs fan

  49. TexBuc Says:

    It is important to put Winston’s interceptions into proper prospective with 1st four years completed with at least 50% of a season played:
    John Elway 65. drew bress 53, peyton manning 81, archie manning 58, eli mannine 77, andrew luck 55, big ben 54. dan marino 67, brett favre 64. Not every QB will come and play like tom brady and aaron rodgers. Give the kid a chance and see what happens next year.

  50. TexBuc Says:

    Not every QB will have success right away in the NFL.

  51. TexBucsFan Says:

    Let Winston finish his contract and then decide.

  52. StoutGospel Says:

    Sir, you don’t get to speak for Joe and Joe’s operation. Again, since Day 1 here Joe posts what Joe finds interesting as it relates to the Bucs. Period. That’s the standard and always will be. Part of that is sharing some nuggets as it relates to the national perception of the football team, and how it’s being portrayed nationally. Simple as that. –Joe

    There’s maybe 6-10 folks worth every sourcing here as NFL journalists/reporters, and those few should be stuck to like glue. Then front office folks. Deviating waters down the credibility of the site like crazy.

    Remains to be seen if the Bucs commit to Jameis in 2020 and beyond, but an incoming coach certainly can influence the Glazers to go his own way.

    Go get JOHN Harbaugh!!!

  53. Destinjohnny Says:

    Its like if you are single and I say hey I have a girl that I want you to me meet.
    U say… hey what is she like
    I say…. she is below average looking, she has a below average personality
    And every aspect of her life is below average.
    You interested??
    This is what a coach has to look forward to with jameis, the roster, and our friend the worst gm in football Jason Licht

  54. Alanbucsfan Says:

    Jameis and Dak Prescott are similar in that both made mistakes early in season, yet both improved as season went along and both are young qb’s.
    The difference is Dallas has good coaching staff (Garrett maybe exception), great running game and good defense.
    Jameis only has great receivers.

  55. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Jameis appears to be the GOAT is garbage time and meaningless games.

  56. Zam Says:

    Dwayne Haskins, Dwayne Haskins, Dwayne Haskins!

  57. Bucfanholic Says:

    Everyone is all in a heap but if we sit back and be honest we’re gonna have to sit through another year of Jamies imo I don’t think there is a better qb in this draft to build on for the future. As a lifelong buc fan Jason licht is gotta go he has only hit on four draft picks Mike Evans, OJ Howard who ought to see atleast 10 targets a game. Godwin and marpet/kwon. with that being said the fan base was calling for Derwin James and we all saw how that worked out but like I said I’m a lifelong fan so who is to say that he would worked out just like Barron or talib or a handful of other players who flourish elsewhere. All I’m saying is that it’s a sticky situation I feel like winston dosent pass the eye test but for bucs fan any glimmer of hope we run with it “he’s got potential” “he’s 24” yea but he looks like a chicken with his head cut off when he holds the ball longer than his expected drop he dosent look clean nor does he make the throws u expect. He’s good enough barley when it’s in his forfront of his mind not to turn the ball over if we had an elite defense.

  58. Defense Rules Says:

    @Bucsfanman … “The Bucs have bigger issues to deal with right now. Jameis will get his opportunity. As a Buc fan, I want him to succeed. If you’re a GM worth your weight in salt, you better have a Plan ‘B’.” Thanks Bucsfanman … the perfect recap to this piece on our future with Jameis.

    Alanbucsfan … “The difference is Dallas has good coaching staff (Garrett maybe exception), great running game and good defense. Jameis only has great receivers.” Excellent point, plus Dallas also has a better OLine (when everyone’s healthy). So if Dallas has a better OLine, RBs & defense, the question becomes ‘WHY?’ Is it because of the coaches or because Dallas management put their emphasis on the OLine, RBs & defense? Look at their last 5 drafts as compared to ours and the answer to that question will become very obvious. Thank you yet again Jason Licht; you’ve done a commendable job accumulating WRs & TEs. Now please start working on the other 90% of the team.

  59. passthebuc Says:

    Joe. you are missing the point. What the Bucs are saying is that no matter what the circumstances, we are going to jam that square peg down a round hole.
    Good coaches will not apply. There will be coaches that will say anything to get the job, and that is what we have had in the past. What you are saying to the team is we will win with JW or we will not win. When will you and the Bucs realize that reality does not care about emotions?
    You and the Bucs have the Henry Ford mentality. You can have any color Ford you want, as long as its Black.

  60. doolnutts Says:

    This is actually a good situation to be in… Winstons 5th year and a new HC. The time for making excuses is over. If Winston does not improve his decision making in his 5th season I will have serious doubts. Koetter and the scheme will officially not be here to blame and Winston’s play will be all his to own.

  61. T REX Says:

    No way the Bucs will be in position to draft TUA in 2020. He’ll likely go number 1 overall. Walter has at 10th. We’ll win enough games to keep us from drafting a stud QB replacement for our L’s eating loser.

    The Glazers are garbage. They are forcing a loser GM and crappy QB on a new head coach. I’m sure guys are lining up for this craptastic job.

    Do not give the Bucs a dime.

  62. 813bucboi Says:

    get jameis a competent HC, a run and a average defense and we’ll make the playoffs!!!!!!!


  63. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    JOE says
    “Sir, you don’t get to speak for Joe and Joe’s operation. Again, since Day 1 here Joe posts what Joe finds interesting as it relates to the Bucs. Period. That’s the standard and always will be. Part of that is sharing some nuggets as it relates to the national perception of the football team, and how it’s being portrayed nationally. Simple as that. –Joe”


    Bravo, nicely done, JOE… and it was particularly entertaining because I am NOT enjoying my day at work right now.

    I always find so entertaining the people that think they are going to tell YOU how it should be done when you are the ones that took all of the chances, 100% committed yourself to the cause, and MADE IT HAPPEN to the success that you have.

    Cheers, congrats, and Happy New Year.
    Thanks for the great forum that you have provided.
    I might be taking a little break and give people a break from me… lol
    but will be back soon.

  64. 813bucboi Says:


    looks like you were dead wrong again buddy!!!!!!!!….lol….

    the talent is there!!!!!!….the coaching is not!!!!!!!….simple as that!!!!!!!

    carry a big box and pack softly!!!!!!!!….lol….


  65. Bird Says:



  66. RyJo Says:

    I don’t buy that Jameis is a “liability” to the hunt for potential coaching candidates. It simply means that they are working with a known commodity for at least 1 year before deciding whether or not to go another direction. Its certainly better than taking a head coaching position where the QB situation is entirely up in the air.

    Also, I HAVE to believe that anybody who has risen to the pinnacle of the coaching profession has a healthy ego; I can’t imagine any head coaching candidate that doesn’t truly believe he can get the best out of any player. Its just not a profession that tends to attract self-doubters. So, I imagine every single head coaching candidate is absolutely convinced they can fix Jameis.

  67. Bob in Valrico Says:

    It also puzzled me why Shaun White only got 6 touches. he had 4.8 YPC average.
    Did Koetter think he was bad in pass protection or did he have tp play the high draft pick.

  68. catcard202 Says:

    There’s not 1 QB in the next 2 draft classes better prepared to lead the Bucs to the play-offs in 2019/2020, than JW3. Period.

    JW3 is only 24/turning 25 in days & has 4yrs of NFL experience…For perspective, consider that 2019 draft QB prospect Ryan Finley(NCState) is also 24yrs old.

  69. Tval Says:

    Shred a snac 12 defense and watch Buc fans drool in their laps..lmao!! Haskins is mediocre and a total system qb. The Bucs would need 4 years to change to a spread offense. You wanted Mariota though, right?!?! Wha’ happen? Rhetorical….

  70. Tval Says:

    Any gm, worth a DAMN, wouldn’t take Baker, Deshaun(injury) Wentz(injury) Luck(injury) or Dak over Jameis. Sometimes perspective is lost on knuckleheaded football fans. That’s why none of these gm’s look like they’ve ever played a sport. Brain damage, Pete?? Lol!! None of you would take foles 2 years ago and now you think he could help this GARBAGE team?? The eagles are Pederson/Foles playcalling/execution. The Bucs don’t have Jason Peters/Lane Johnson bookends, IDIOTS!!!!

  71. Ed Says:

    The only way Jameis gets better is if the team forces him to do yoga, go to ballet class and get rid of the gawky way he moves. His size and arm are great but he throws the ball so awkwardly and has got to speed up his delivery and shorten the stride and windup. That is coordination. Footwork is another area of improvement. He simply needs to be coached up to be smoother the way he gets rid of the football. There are many different types of throws and ways a quarterback can get the ball out faster, I believe much of it is coordination and mechanics. His game hasn’t improved enough because he still is telegraphing where the ball is going with that motion and stride. Watch the tape of the sideline throw to Godwin, he’s locked on him. Its a good throw and it was to the right guy but he wasn’t looking anywhere else. That’s one of his issues, has to process faster has to shorten up his throwing motion, has to improve his agility. QB guru please!

  72. Pittsshore Says:

    I heard a comment on an NFL talk show yesterday in which 3 of the 5 broadcasters agreed that he must go and the other two said to keep him a year and then tank in order to draft his replacement in the 2020 draft. One guy even said that his inept mind cannot keep up with his physical abilities. Well, duh

  73. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Pittsshore, hilarious stuff man. Ridiculous commentary by the “broadcaster”.

  74. SilverBuc Says:

    In his last 15 games, excluding the Cincinnati game against Dirk Koetter’s GOOD FRIEND Marvin Lewis, Jameis passed for:
    4,300 yards, 28 TDs & 10 Ints. (Nearly 3:1)
    That’s including the half games against Chicago and the Giants.
    I wish people would realize how much of an outlying disaster that Cincinnati game was.

  75. SilverBuc Says:

    Sorry 28 TDs & 15 Ints. About 2:1

  76. Skipper Says:

    Pete apparently does not watch much football .

  77. SilverBuc Says:

    Now that I think about it, probably about 5 of those ints were either hail marys and the last int that hit off Mike Evans hands/chest. So closer to 3:1.

  78. Rod Munch Says:


    Remember when you told me that Ryan Smith and Chris Conte were good players and the defense would be really good this past year even with them starting.


  79. jmarkbuc Says:


    “But if he bombs, please bomb horribly and inexplicably so we can have a clear cut answer to stop wasting time on him…”

    Had a thought the other day that the worst thing for JW personally, would be a running game and a D. Then he might really get exposed.

    Dilfer was sent packing and he had a..great D, great RB’s, great kicker, he just wasn’t accurate enough. I do remember Trent being pretty gritty though.

    But you know if you do have those things, even Shaun king can get you to a Champ. game; and a Trent Dilfer can win a SB.

    What will JW turn out to be?

  80. jmarkbuc Says:


    “The only way Jameis gets better is if the team forces him to do yoga, go to ballet class and get rid of the gawky way he moves.

    HERE’S the wind up…and the Pitch!

    He plays QB like a pitcher..lock in on catchers mitt..high leg kick..hum it.

  81. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    jmarkbuc says
    “What will JW turn out to be?”


    If he turns out like Dilfer & Shaun King, than even if we are winning, we’ve gotta cut him loose.

    But I am trusting in him that he can still be a difference maker at the QB position.

  82. Tval Says:

    How many, clamoring for Haskins, still want Cardale, Braxton, Troy Smith, Jt Barrett, etc…….lol!!! Just stop with the nonsense. And I live in Columbus. Bwahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! NEVER TAKE A BUCKEYE QB

  83. Phillip Says:

    How can you compare Haskins to any of those previous QB’s? This is coming from a diehard Michigan fan…

    I forgot the Falcons had a good defense this season so lighting them up during the last week of the season is so impressive… Sorry Joe but you are grasping at straws with that statement.