Jameis And Interceptions

October 18th, 2018

Overblown wailing over picks.

Just glancing at the box score, one would think America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, had a strong game against the Falcons.

Jameis completed 30 of 41 passes for a 73.2 percent completion rate for 395 yards and four touchdowns.

But no, the folks who just cannot wait to run Jameis out of town screamed like bloody murder he threw two picks. Not good but hardly game-killing.

Those who use Jameis sneezing the wrong way as a reason to unload him go bananas over his picks. Luke Easterling of USA Today believes that is terribly overblown.

Exactly. We’re supposed to run Jameis out of town for a few picks and completely and totally ignore all the good attributes he has? And for who, for what?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slugs like Alex Smith don’t have that many red zone turnovers. So go get Alex Smith.

94 Responses to “Jameis And Interceptions”

  1. Rod Munch Says:

    Anyone saying bust and Winston together is what is commonly referred to as a moron and they literally know nothing about football. The Winston haters should do a world a favor and take a mass walk off a short pier.

  2. Dubcity06 Says:

    Im not saying run him out of town. Louis Riddick said he would have cut Jameis long time ago. Dirk said it hurts the team to turn the ball over in the red zone. Jameis said those throws hurt the team…. but fans say he turns the ball over too much and makes bad mistakes and we are either haters or racist. Never heard anyone call GMAC bashers racist and he’s a consistent pro bowler

  3. miken Says:

    Of course the other guys listed had established themselves as ALL Pros after 3 season. Go lookar Fitz’s last 6 games and #3’s last 6 games and you will see an overall #1 pick that hasn’t looked any better than a caerer back up. Jameis has a little Vinny in him .. flashes of greatness and flashes of terrible plays with a lot of good inconsistant play in between

  4. Miguel Grande Says:

    The 1st pick was like a punt, downed a the 1 yard line and led to a Buc TD.

    The 2nd pick hurt.

  5. miken Says:

    @rod yeah, to say #3 is a bust is total stupidity. He is more of an andy dalton type. Between 12-18. Could be a play off qb with a really good d and this great O. You get rid of #3 when you find a great qb, and good luck with that.

  6. LakeLand Says:

    Box scores don’t win you football

    Your play on the field wins you football games

  7. Hizzie Says:

    I agree with not running him out of town. But the end zone pick was a game killer. If we get 3 there. We kick a potential game winning FG at the end.

  8. LakeLand Says:

    **Don’t win you football games**

  9. DB55 Says:

    TKras is a dummy also the sun is hot. #Duh

  10. D-Rome Says:

    Silly stats all around defending Jay-Miss. The NFL was very different in the first 3 seasons for Peyton, Favre, Marino, and Elway.

    Red zone turnovers continue to be a problem.

  11. JabooBuc Says:

    I would say, minus the off field stupidity, it’s hard to argue his production. If he can just mature and stay out of his own way, he can become a great QB.

  12. DB55 Says:

    A WR on LB, I can almost Guarantee that’s the way the play was drawn up. And once again if Godwin uses his hands instead of his chest to catch the ball it doesn’t bounce off a helmet. But hey wtfdik

  13. DB55 Says:

    If only we could run the ball in the red zone from the 7 yard line, if only. But no! I think the last time we tried that (last yr) we fumbled the ball sooo hmmm. here’s an idea let’s put all the weight and pressure on the QBs so when he f’s up we can complain.


  14. Bucs3 Says:

    I’d like to see what defenses them other QB’s were working with compared to Jameis… since all I’ve heard is, “well those other quarterbacks went to the playoffs by now, blah blah blah”

  15. Bucs3 Says:

    but I can guarantee none of them took their teams to the playoffs with damn near the worst defense in NFL history over a three year span

  16. LakeLand Says:

    Miguel Grande

    The first pick was downed at the Falcons one yard line
    But it was the DEFENSE who held the Falcons to a 3 AND OUT
    The Falcons punted
    And the Bucs got the ball at their 48 yard line

    But no one gave the defense credit

    Who credit the SCAPEGOAT?

    If the Falcons had went on a 99 yard scoring drive
    All of the sickos would have been screaming from the rooftops

    I wish people would give credit when credit is do
    And quit with the favoritism

  17. Bucs3 Says:

    with hizzie’s logic, the missed FG was just as much a game killer as the redzone pick… but can’t blame that one on Jameis so why bother mentioning it, right?

  18. LakeLand Says:


  19. Bucs3 Says:

    holy mother of god! a three and out when the defense had them backed up to their own 1 yard line! no wonder they were dancing on the sidelines, only the greatest defense ever could do that!

  20. 813bucboi Says:

    well, dirk is suppose to get him to the next level which means better decision making and cutting down on the turnovers….

    cant say he’s turned that corner yet….still see him throwing into double coverage and starring down WR’s…..

    imo, he needs both better coaching and a new scheme….the 4vert scheme doesn’t fit Winston…..

    with that said, letting Winston go would be the dumber than hiring smitty…..


  21. Waterboy Says:

    Peyton Manning had Marshall Faulk and eventually Edgerrin James to lean on if he was having a tough day.

  22. Hizzie Says:


    The missed XP was just as much of a game killer. Because it potentially cost us more points. It’s worth mentioning but this article is about the two picks. We could say the same about Mike Evans not running out of bounds. Who knows we may have gotten 2 extra plays. Bottom line is every mistake that game was compounded by another. The Bucs aren’t good enough on defense to overcome mistakes made by the offense or special teams.

  23. miken Says:

    @waterboy… JW has 3 pro bowl level recievers, 2 pro bowl level tightends, a quality line and a decent rb. That’s why a journey man back up can put up really big #’s in this offense

  24. DB55 Says:

    I’d rather have the QBs from Tenn with 2TDs and 4 Ints after 5 games. (Where’s the eye rolling emoji) 🙄

  25. DB55 Says:


    2 things, first a quality line, that’s hilarious thank you for that 😂

    Second, did you forget about game 3&4? That’s what happens when team have tape to watch a build a game plan off of.

    People keep acting like Fitz didn’t play 4 games, threw 4 ints including three in 1 qrt and a pick six on national tv.

    Imagine if Winston threw 3 picks in a qrt of football?

  26. Resurrection of Fitz Says:

    Hey, hey, hey

    Stop picking on Jameis!!!!

    Fitz showed us the potential of this offense and he did not have a run game!

    So stop picking on Jameis!!!!!


  27. Waterboy Says:

    Good point Miken. Manning had a guy named Marvin Harrison and Dallas Clarke to throw to. Harrison is either in the Hall of Fame or on his way along with Marshall Faulk.

  28. Waterboy Says:

    Fitz had 2 career games and reverted back to himself. Threw 3 back to back INT’s in 3 consecutive passes against Pittsburgh but all I hear is he almost brought them back to win that game. Winston put up similar numbers and didn’t even play his best game.

  29. JabooBuc Says:

    Interested in why one of my comments made it and the other has not?

  30. Bucs fan #7423 Says:

    Winston and Koetter should just focus on scoring as many points as possible and cut down on the turnovers. That would justify paying Winston 25 million a year, with very little guaranteed as incentive to stay out of trouble off the field. And keeping Koetter

  31. miken Says:

    @waterboy… What does Fitz have that JW doesn’t? Look at Fitz vs JW in their last 6 games. Fitz has better #’s with less turnovers so we don;t have to wonder about the 1999 colts roster. Of course, Fitz is a back up. It would be nice if a #1 overall pick looked better than a scrub.
    Here’s our last 13 Bucs games
    Fitz… 2101 yards, 14 tds 6 ints 10 sacks 1 fumble 4 wins
    JW… 2124 yards 14 tds, 9 ints, 24 sacks 9 fumbles 1 win, 1 suspension.

  32. Waterboy Says:

    Better yet compare Fitz’s first 3 yrs in the league vs. Winston first 3. Apples to apples.

  33. ben Says:

    Fitz is way more accurate with the long ball which leads to scoring .. go ahead make up excuses for Winston if you must…

  34. Waterboy Says:

    Throw Brees’ years in San Diego Diego the comparison also.

  35. Waterboy Says:

    Fitz throws a nice deep ball but once teams figured that out (Pittsburgh and Chicago) they set out to take away that deep pass and forced them to sustain drives and sent that heat after him. Once you start blitzing Fitz he’ll start seeing ghosts.

  36. Waterboy Says:

    But on a positive note Mariota will probably be available in a year or so. The Bucs can put him on the practice squad to keep you all happy.

  37. Dapostman Says:

    The only way this team will win is if Winston or Fitz plays the perfect game. That’s virtually 350+ yards, 3-4 TD passes and ZERO turnovers. That is the only recipe for success. Even with 395 yards passing and 4 TD passes and what should have been at least 34 points on the board vs Atlanta with a competent kicker Winston couldn’t get it done because HE made one huge mistake in the red zone. Perfect or bust! No other way around it with the rest of the team being crapbags.

    #Get After It!

  38. LakeLand Says:

    The offense has 9 turnovers in 3 games

    They contribute to a crappy defense

  39. DB55 Says:


    There is no rule saying the defense can’t take the ball back. Ijs

  40. LakeLand Says:

    There’s 20 teams with 9 turnovers or less for the ENTIRE SEASON

  41. RickinFtMyers Says:

    Joe’s mancrush on Jameis Winston has gone too far when he excuses picks. Joe you know as well as anyone that anytime a team goes -2 on turnovers, whether the turnovers are picks or fumbles, they’re likely going to lose the game. Winston can’t afford to contribute to the turnover total because (1) we don’t know whether the defense will even the turnover score; or (2) we don’t know if the running backs and receivers will contribute to the turnover total by fumbling the ball. The moral: secure the football and don’t turn the damned thing over no matter what position you play.

  42. Bucnjim Says:

    LakeLand good point did not realize that.

  43. Bucnjim Says:

    Even with offensive weapons you can’t turn the ball over in the NFL

  44. kgh4life Says:

    Jameis has his faults, however, as Buc fans we all see the talent on display every Sunday. This point in his career he hasn’t been able to put it all together, and for those of you who say to get rid of him and start over, ok, who should the Bucs bring in? Reports have suggested the up coming QBs in the 2019 draft isn’t as good as the 2018 QBs. The Bucs can resign Winston to a team friendly deal with an opt out clause.

  45. donuts Says:

    I saw this on twitter and responded. The stats quoted are not correct. 44 INTs for Marino. I looked no further since the first stat I checked was wrong. I like how they left out the most important stat = TDs. Where is Winston on that list??? lol

    Regardless, these are excuses. No other NFL QB gets excused for INTs or Fumbles…so Winston gets no pass sorry.

    This will all be over after this season. A clearing house will occur and Koetter, Licht, Winston, GMC, Kwon will be included.

  46. Dubcity06 Says:

    The only game Mahommes has lost all year, he threw multiple interceptions. Coincidence?

  47. BucEmUp Says:

    Give the guys d efemse that has his back and he won’t have to make so many wreckless decisions

  48. canadianbucsfan Says:

    I’m a Winston supporter but if you factor in fumbles and Winston would be by far the highest

  49. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Jameis is not a bust, int’s or not he has directed the most explosive offense in 42 years. I only predicted 1 thing when we drafted him, that he would go down as the all-time leader in TD’s 80 is not hard to achieve in 4 years in todays NFL.

  50. Dewey Selmon Says:

    BTW. that was Jameis’s first red zone int since his rookie year.

  51. LakeLand Says:

    NFC South Turnovers

    Atlanta 3
    New Orleans 5
    Carolina 7
    Tampa Bay 11

    **Tampa Bay 9 in the last 3 games**

  52. asdf Says:

    As much as I want to believe JW is an above average QB (fan hat on), he simply hasn’t shown that he can put a team on his back and win. That is what is expected from a #1 overall pick and top tier QB in today’s NFL, especially with the offensive talent around him.

    So yes to this point in his career I think you have to say he is a bust from what expectations were (and they were maybe unfairly high). He is a middle of the pack QB who hasn’t shown a ton of progress and still has a ton of flaws in his game (ball security, decision making, accuracy (don’t give me the completion percentage argument – his ball placement is NOT good).

    Anyone else get the same “oh sh*t” feeling every time he drops back to pass?

  53. LakeLand Says:

    Oh yeah, and that great Bears defense that dominated the Bucs offense

    Brock Osweiler lit them up for 380 yards, 3 TD
    35 year old Frank Gore rush for 101 yards

  54. Oneilbucs Says:

    Donuts I can name you some guys that gets all kind of excuses. ANDREW Luck, Philp Rivers, Elie Mannon, Bret Farve the gun slanger white quarterbacks only gets that name , Derrick Carr is looking like trash but they blaming the coach for his again for only white quarterbacks. Peyton Mannon, Jay Cutler for 10 years , Alex Smith got 5 or 6 years to grow Ryan Tannhill , Carson Palmer , Tony Romo and many more but it’s real funny how all of them are white quarterbacks cause black quarter backs are judged harder by fans and the national media now that goes to show you and everyone else that race plays apart of it and that’s facts look at all the others guys that have more picks then Jamies and they had time to grow and all of them are white quarterbacks. And at the time no one call them bust . That’s facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  55. Oneilbucs Says:

    Lakeland but fizpatrick started that game Jamies came in what was the score. The game was over so what’s your point ?

  56. LakeLand Says:

    I don’t care who started the Bears game. I’m sick of hearing people brag about this offense.

  57. Anonymous Says:

    That stat is INT only.

    Add fumbles the same years and the number come out:

    Favre 84
    Marino 81
    Elway & Winston 79
    Manning 72

    Winston is fine.

    The defense is the problem. How many games has Winston had to try climbing out of a hole the defense put them in?

    There is a difference between making stupid plays in a close game, and stupid plays when you’re trying desperately to catch up. Winston’s sin is the latter.

    I just wish one day he’ll be able to hit a receiver in stride, or heaven forbid, an open DeSean Jackson streaking down the field. Is that asking too much?

    And @Onelibucs: get out of town with that racist baloney. Ain’t nobody got time for that. Kwit yer whining.

  58. LakeLand Says:

    Bragging about the offense and talking smack about the defense. They both has flaws. I’m pointing out the offense’s flaws. This has nothing to do with the starting QB. This has everything to do with the Tampa Bay Bucs OFFENSE.

  59. Dre Says:

    Wins and losses Jameis is not winning like the above qbs are plain and simple

  60. Dre Says:

    We’re excuse me

  61. Dre Says:

    Numbers mean jack … it’s wins and loses

  62. 911bucs Says:

    Just curious, anyone know the win-loss totals of said QB’s above?

  63. FireMikeSmith_orDie Says:

    Wish we could put this to bed since the conclusion is very clear. Jameis Winston is an above average QB, and nothing more. No, he is not going to be the next Tom Brady or Drew Brees or Joe Montana–his style simply does not fit those comparisons. He can make certain kinds of throws that few QBs in the NFL can make (driving the ball 15-25 yards in the air), but he does not have the arm quickness to make the kind of throws the generational QBs make or the accuracy on the deep pass.

    Now, the latter may come with time, but Jameis also brings great leadership skills, great size & toughness, and enough foot quickness & agility to make at least a little something happen with his legs.

    He’s a motley of great attributes, and of course, he also brings the boneheaded decisions sometimes & really errant throws on occasion, along with small hands which make him fumble prone…. now these last few attributes knock him down from ELITE QB to just Above Average…. that’s all he probably will ever be, provided he continues to work hard. If he stops doing that, then he will be average on a good day only.

  64. small axe Says:

    nice try joe

  65. T REX Says:

    Winston has the second most turnover since entering the league. He will probably pass Bortles this season.

    You will lose a lot more than you win with those stas.

  66. Knoxville Buc Fan Says:

    Damn you people must not have been around the days when we had a color blind number one over all pick at QB. This cat tossed 35 Ints one year and never came close to being the QB Winston is now and will be for years to come. Relax and quit over analyzing so much. Some of y’all are gonna hate on the kid regardless.

  67. OneBucPerson Says:

    I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, he plays hero ball because he feels like he has to due to how awful his defense has almost always been, give him an actual defense and he’ll cut down on the aggressiveness.

  68. Buc4evr Says:

    The bottom line is that Jameis has to play a perfect game to win. There is no margin for error when we have the most pathetic defense in the history of the game. Sorry Jameis even one int will lose a game, not entirely your fault but it goes with the territory when there is no defense. On another team with a middle tier defense you would be a top tier Qb, with the Bucs you are doomed.

  69. LakeLand Says:

    It was this pathetic defense that forced the Falcons to punt after the 2 interceptions!

  70. Jamesrunningwilder Says:

    Why does no one mention the fact that we lost by 5 Points and BOTH of Winston’s Picks were within Fieldgoal Range? One was inside the Redzone with a WIDE OPEN Humphries in the flat which would’ve resulted in a Touchdown or AT LEAST a Fieldgoal while the other Interception was Also within Fieldgoal range! At the very LEAST we get 6 points and Win by 1! The other thing People haven’t pointed out regarding Winston’s Interception on his deep attempt to Jackson was that Jackson had BEATEN his man deep and if Winston throws the ball to the OUTSIDE where Jackson was running to, he would’ve caught it in the Far Corner of the Endzone, BUT INSTEAD, Winston throws it INSIDE, AWAY from Jackson into the waiting arms of the Safety playing INSIDE! The SAME Safety who Intercepted that pass would’ve been OUT OF POSITION to make a play on that pass had Winston Correctly thrown the ball to the OUTSIDE, in the Far Corner of the Endzone!
    One Last thing… This Offense had the Worst Yards After Catch percentage last year because Winston does Not know how to properly lead his receivers. Many have to make major adjustments to catch inaccurate passes that eliminate their momentum. This Offense was Explosive when we had a QB who Accurately lead a receiver to keep their momentum for Explosive Plays. The First 2 Weeks of this Season and the Second Half of the Steeler Game proved why the Bucs LED THE LEAGUE in Yards After the Catch! This year. The BIGGEST Reason for the Colapse in Chicago was an Offensive Line that couldn’t keep the heat off of Either QB long enough to really accomplish anything and the Team Overall, came out Very Flat and Unprepared and seemingly unwilling, to Match the Bears Intensity, which to me, points to a Mentally and Emotionally Weak Team.

  71. Joe Says:

    Why does no one mention the fact that we lost by 5 Points and BOTH of Winston’s Picks were within Fieldgoal Range?

    You must not read/listen much if you think this has been ignored.

  72. Greg Says:

    5 touchdowns 4 ints is not going to get it done in the NFL even if we HAD a defense. How much is Jameis paying Joe to constantly oversell any achievement and downplay all the negative.

    Jameis isn’t a terrible QB I just dont want the Bucs to pay him like a great one. but a little reality would be nice.

  73. Greg Says:

    Objectivity is out the window when Joe gives Jameis little pet names every freakin time he mentions him. Hes an average QB at best and oh yeah, a sex offender. We can do better. As Bucs fans we deserve better.

  74. Jamesrunningwilder Says:

    My question was not directed at either “Joe” but rather many of the Winston homers that refuse to Objectively assess Winston’s Performance.

  75. Dapostman Says:

    Jameis Winston W/L record when he starts and finishes the game without throwing an interception. 9 wins and 9 losses. Let me repeat that for the obtuse Buc fan, that’s 9 and 9 when he doesn’t throw an interception. What does that say about the rest of this team? Shouldn’t he be like 12-6 or 13-5 when he doesn’t throw a pick? At the worst 11-7? This team still sucks and has sucked since 2007.

  76. Jean Lafitte Says:

    So this means we should be able to slaughter the Browns. Browns are sorry on offense so there’s no reason this game should be even close with the venerable fantasy football darling America’s QB Jameis Winston in da house.

  77. Jean Lafitte Says:


    What’s his record when he does turn the ball over via INT’s or fumbles?

  78. Dapostman Says:


    Well genius if his record is .500 when he doesn’t throw a pick does it really matter what his record is if he does. It won’t be better than .500. You Winston Derangement Syndrome fans would have a good argument if he was 11-7 or better. Then you could say see if he didn’t throw picks we’d be winning. 9-9 is not winning and you can’t blame Winston when he doesn’t throw a pick. Pretty simple.

  79. Knoxville Buc Fan Says:

    @jamesrunningwild Guess you didn’t see the pass intended for ME in the end zone clearly! There is a pause button on my DVR, and when I utilize the pause button as the missle JW threw in this particular play ME was stuck by the defender while trying to make the reception. Mind you the Atlanta player NEVER turned to look at the ball. The ball then hit him and the rest is history. Clearly pass interference,and the other one is on JW however one could argue Jackson could’ve laid out for it and hauled it in. Sure you will say he was running 20mph and one can’t just jump for a ball going wide open. Well I just watched a hell of a catch by the Bronco receiver in the game tonight (Sutton) running wide open and leaped about 5 feet to haul it in.. result~TD

  80. Jean Lafitte Says:

    Don’t it feel good to call people names tough guy?

  81. Doolnutts Says:

    I don’t think we should sign him to a 100 million dollar deal. Not yet at least. I think we should let him finish out his rookie deal and then franchise tag him. Gives us more time to see how Winston matures over the next several years. If he cleans up his act id try locking him in long term…

  82. Knoxville Buc Fan Says:

    Why the heck do you haters even watch the Bucs. Winston is going NO WHERE! Your boy Fitz had 2 great games, then faced a defense that showed the football nation who he really is. Say what you will but the ones who signs the paychecks could’ve easily said JW stays on the bench. But haters he’s starting and will sign another contract and then another. Live with it cry babies AMERICA’S QUARTERBACK IS HERE TO STAY! Swing off of Fitz’s Sack all ya want and run your fingers through his bushy beard. I’ll be watching JW KICK SOME A$$ FOR MANY YEARS TO COME!

  83. Jamesrunningwilder Says:

    Knoxville, that was Godwin that was targeted on the deflected interception. ME has a MUCH lighter complexion. That being said, I felt that should’ve been Defensive Pass Interference on the play. Bad No-Call on the Refs. I still feel that Winston forced that throw and should’ve hit Humphries in the flat. He was pretty wide open.

  84. Pete I Says:

    I’ll be watching JW KICK SOME A$$ FOR MANY YEARS TO COME!

    When will that start, the rest of us are still waiting for that. Your sentence should be I’ll be WAITING for JW KICK SOME A$$ FOR MANY YEARS TO COME!

  85. DB55 Says:

    Marino 81 tds 98
    Manning 72 tds 85
    Winston 79 tds 69
    Elway 79 tds 47
    Favre 84 tds 39

    Winston is fine.

    Peyton had 4th yr vet, 7x pro bowler, coach-on-the-field, greatest showman on earth Marshall mr. unstoppable Faulk for his first 3 yrs in the league.

    Marino had Don Shula

    Winston had Lovie Smith, Dirk Koetter and Doug Martin

    Winston is fine. Actually you’re ruining his career.


  86. Pete I Says:

    JW = 18-28 in first 46 games started

    Marino = 36-10
    Farve = 26-20
    Elway = 33-13
    Manning = 24-22

  87. Pete I Says:

    FWIW Trent Dilfer was 21-25 in his first 46 games

  88. Trench War Says:

    I want to win…

  89. Trench War Says:

    Unlike what our POTUS has said about winning so much. I never want to stop winning! We have to defeat Cleveland.

  90. Jim Says:

    Wins and losses are what count but if you want to make a point and don’t don’t have the wins, use stats. After reading all of this, I’m totally “statified”.

  91. Marlow Says:

    Let’s don’t pretend comparing interceptions of NFL legends to JW makes you worth a buffalo nickel either.

  92. BringBucsBack Says:

    Let’s not forget the fumbles!

  93. RODNEY J ALLEN Says:

    Miken u realize the rb part is this year now n a few games at the end of last year. Remember Martin was rb before those few games n 2016 when he ran well 2015 he was great. Jw play a game n a half n y’all act like hes played all season n thrown 30 picks. Smmfh

  94. RODNEY J ALLEN Says:

    Pete I Says:
    October 19th, 2018 at 12:41 am
    JW = 18-28 in first 46 games started

    Marino = 36-10
    Farve = 26-20
    Elway = 33-13
    Manning = 24-22

    Pete u do realize that those other QBs weren’t throwing 400yrd to turn around n watch their defense give up 400 yrds