Stories In The Snap Counts

September 27th, 2018

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Jason Pierre-Paul playing 94 percent of the snaps against the Steelers is just one of a handful of interesting playing-time decisions on Monday night.

When JPP arrived, the Bucs’ plan was to rotate him because he rarely came off the field with the Giants and it’s brutal to have any human playing that many snaps in the NFL trenches.

Well, the Bucs don’t have the depth or the confidence they expected in their defensive line. Noah Spence? Not good enough for one snap against the Steelers.

JPP moved around the line more than he had in previous games, lining up inside and outside, left and right.

Vinny Curry logged 83 percent of the defensive snaps versus Pittsburgh. Joe’s a bit concerned about 30-year-old Curry for the long term. He averaged 56 percent of the snaps with the Eagles last season, and 2017 was his first season as a starter.

Also intriguing on defense was zero defensive snaps for Ryan Smith following his breakthrough type of game against the Eagles.

Rookie Carlton Davis went the distance as an outside cornerback with M.J. Stewart handling nickel duties. That appears to be the way it will go all season, if they can stay healthy along with Brent Grimes, who handled 100 percent of defensive snaps as the No. 1 corner.

Will Gholston took the majority of the snaps at nose tackle, where he is undersized. That sort of tells you what the coaching staff thinks of Jerel Worthy. Please come back, Beau Allen and Vita Vea!

Adam Humphries getting 73 percent of the snaps against Pittsburgh, significantly more than Chris Godwin and DeSean Jackson, is not something you see every game. Odd. The Steelers must have been relieved.

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26 Responses to “Stories In The Snap Counts”

  1. Buchead5588 Says:

    I think it was because they were trying to give them looks we haven’t used we are very deep an sometimes it will benefit the Bucs to switch things up like this it looked to me as the condition took there toll in this game as well

  2. Alanbucsfan Says:

    Although Humphries is a good player, Justin Watson gives the Bucs more future upgrade, especially since Humphries will likely sign elsewhere next year.

  3. Bucsfanman Says:

    Godwin got dinged, and that’s putting it mildly, in the 1st quarter of that game. That may be why Hump saw extended action.
    What’s telling is the number of defensive snaps our d-line is playing. People rail against GMC for not showing up in the 4th quarter of games. Well, when you see how many snaps these guys are on the field for, is it any wonder that they are gassed by the end of the game? Our depth is being tested early.
    Far be it for anyone to inject logic into the argument! Nope, they just suck!

  4. Evolvingbucsfan Says:

    Joe very confuse about your statement “Also intriguing on defense was zero defensive snaps for Ryan Smith following his breakthrough type of game against the Steelers.”

    That was the last game, no one had any snaps following that game either……?

    Just curious what you were trying to say. =)

  5. johnnybuc Says:

    a lot of personnel decisions where off on monday night. quizz running the ball backed up at own goal line? no ryan smith while grimes was clearly struggling ?? and way too much adam humphries in the RZ i mean WTH we have seen this story before why in the world would you take out godwin or oj in the red zone for d jax and hump?? makes no damn sense i know godwin struggled in monday but i trust him to come down with a whole lot more contested balls than what d jax and humphries can do. very dissapointing game on the rewatch and probably most concerning was just how much resemblance that game had to games they would play in the 2017 season. not good . thought this was a knew team but same mistakes/ shortcomings as before

  6. Bob in Valrico Says:

    The breakthrough for Smith was against Philly. We have to get more agressive at corner . No. 1 corner is struggling to stay with receivers and keep his feet. Go younger and more aggressive. IMO it will only help this defense in the long run.

  7. Jolly Bucs Fan Says:

    Has anyone asked Mike Smith why Ryan Smith didnt get any snaps? Grimes played like garbage, Ryan should at least have come in for relief right? Even if Grimes played well he is older and we should want to spell him and keep him fresh all year.

    I just dont get it. Especially after Ryan’s game against Philly

  8. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Our mighty mite back Quizzie is a great blocker and he has only fumbled twice in his entire career. But IMO his reach is a problem in the screen game. QB has to throw it over bigger extended arms of defenders and then the ball has get back
    down to the lower level for Quiz. He is good for the dumpoffs over the LOS,
    but not so much in the backfield.

  9. mike Says:

    i didn’t get why Hump was in every play and why Wilson is returning kick and I really liked Smith after thephilygame and why wasn’t he in more?

  10. 813bucboi Says:

    intriguing indeed……

    we need to go with the youth movement and start ryan smith and davis at outside CB…..ive been saying for 2years grimes & smitty are handcuffing this defense with this soft off coverage…..

    im also surprised that spence didn’t get any PT…..I think they should at least let him get a few snaps on 3rd down…..if they aren’t going to use him, cut him and get someone in that could help like a RB, DE, S

    #NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!

  11. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I have to agree that it was probably because they wished to be more unpredictable.

    Coverage on OJ was tighter, so they pulled a fast one and went to Brate, for example.

    Spreading the ball around is why the Pats have lasted so long. Fitz is not great at it, but Jameis does it really well. Yes, sometimes he gets locked in on a guy, but for the most part he spreads it around.

  12. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Odd indeed

  13. Destinjohnny Says:

    We need to draft a lot smarter.
    This is the deepest d line draft ever in 2019
    Now, why do I just know that Jason won’t draft any of these beast ?
    Jason will prob draft a tight end or wideout.
    It’s like in free agency, we signed 3 defensive lineman 2 dt and one end.
    You would have thought he would have been, okay the 2019 draft is stacked with defensive lineman. We just signed 2 tackles and I’m sure vea is good but, we really need a saftey, and again the 19 draft is stacked with d lineman.
    Let’s get Derwin.
    But Jason is all or nothing at a position. He won’t draft for a position for 5 years then he finally goes “ Oh we need help there” Then that’s all he gets
    These guys can’t play that many snaps. We must draft better to have a chance

  14. 813bucboi Says:


    I hear ya but the thing that the pats do well and what monken should’ve been taking advantage of is mismatches…..

    thru play design, the pats get gronk on a safety or CB and edelmen or Hogan on a LB…..they don’t really switch up players they create mismatches….

    that’s what monken should’ve been doing….figuring out the weak link(pittsburg LB’s & safeties) in the defense and exploiting it….line oj out wide so he’s matched up with a CB and have evans in the slot matched up with a safety or LB…..

    spreading the ball around is great but if you don’t create mismatches you have to win your 1 on 1 battles…..mismatches make those 1 on 1 battles a lot easier…..

    monken can be unpredictable with the same players thru play design

    #NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!!

  15. BucDan Says:

    Damn, Joe! All that info left me wanting more details on the overall snap count of the team! Where’s that ‘extra’!? haha

  16. Ed Says:

    Coaching, coaching, coaching. Its always interesting to see how little adjustiments this staff makes. When rewatching the highlights there were so many completions Ben made in the middle of the field with his receivers coming back for the ball and our DBs were tackling them from behind after already securing the catch. There was huge hole in the middle of the field the whole game. The Bucs havn’t gotten burned on many long passes this year but when QBs can complete 80% of 10-15 yard plays, they don’t even need a running game and they win the time of possession battle and they also limit plays.

    This defense has to tighten up, especially against teams that don’t have guys like Julio Jones that can outrun and out-physical double and triple coverage on the long passes from Ryan.

    I just don’t understand why the defense doesn’t adjust to the strengths of the other teams. No one really wants to run the ball vs the Bucs, its simply too easy to throw it in the middle or run outs with tight ends. Can our linebackers actually drop back and take away that part of the field?

  17. Dre-Day Says:

    Now with Conte finally gone and no longer stealing playing time from better choices, time to get Hump off the field. Cant run routes. Cant score (4 td’s in 46 career games). Only good for 2 screens and one slant per game. He strikes zero fear in opposing defenses’ hearts. Bring Bobo Wilson back to the active 53. He’s faster, a better route runner, and a better kick returner. Hump’s 3 catches for less than 30 yards per game average is not doing anything to help.

  18. Hodad Says:

    Has been Grimes getting 100% of the snaps after no training camp, and preseason is mind boggling. What do these coaches see? I saw an old man who couldn’t cover, but made up for it by not tackling. This coming at the expense of R.Smith who the week before had his best game.

  19. rrsrq Says:

    Head Scratcher, Smith and not even trusting Spence, because your defense is spectacular. Not sure who will be active this week, but I expect to see Rojo, Spence and Vita Vea, all three can possibly help the defense (as well as defense snaps for Ryan Smith. Also I see Eric Reid signed by the Panthers and we needed a safety he has more experience than our 4 safeties combined and played at a high level (but our defense is great)

  20. pelbuc Says:

    AS long as Mike Smith is the DC, this dfense is doomed, no matter the talent level. The D will costs us more losses than anything else combined.

  21. Alphabucfan Says:

    Joe can you please get us some answer on all this nonsense. Like why sit Ryan smith wen it finallly looked like he was starting to make the turn, why take out our best RZ targets for hump an Jackson, why not play Spence to rest jpp an Curry. I get that jpp an Curry are better than Spence but playing these guys this much this early in the season on spell disaster. Doesn’t make any sense

  22. Clw JB Says:

    The decisions on D have been nothing short of baffling since the day Mike Sh*T got here – we suck out load on D, so inconsistent play to play – the O will have to carry us for the forseeable future –

    Lots of injuries for sure, but Ryan Smith disappears after by far his best showing…the shuffling of DB’s has been horrible decision after horrible decision

    Why the hell can the two nickel LB EVER cover the TE? They both just sit there and stare down the QB with no sense the TE or RB is sliding into the open window -Brooks made a career on these plays…Qwan, LVD wake up and pay attention – can you teach awareness?

    Will Gholston playing NT tells you everything you need to know…watching him get body slammed play after play was embarrassing for him and us, just pitiful

    Worthy cant be that much worse on run downs, no way no how

    Noah Spence hasnt played a snap in 3 games after all the crap we heard all offseason – again, just ridiculous -if he sucks that bad cut his butt and find another Nassib – a try hard guy that at least has the SIZE to play DE

    CB STILL playing 10 yards off the line on 3rd and 4

    Blitzes that you can see coming 10 miles away -stunts that leave huge lanes open for the QB to escape through

    Cant blame Allen & Vea & Unrien for getting hurt – the good part is we know for sure DT isnt the reason our D is weak….

    Coach Sh*t needs to be the one in the MIRROR!!!!

  23. Montana Buc Says:

    No excuse for not playing Ryan Smith a single snap on D especially considering the exceptional game he played the previous week and how terrible Brent Grimes looked.

    Ryan Smith => Fast,Sure Tackling CB

    Garbage coaching no creativity/not utilizing available assets/not putting players in a position to succeed.

  24. Anonymous Says:

    Grimes was bailing on every snap and his tackling was atrocious. Ryan Smith couldn’t have done worse.

  25. Mike Says:

    WTF are these clown coaches doing? If the players we have supposedly aren’t good enough to play, why are they on the roster? What are we doing? Why don’t they rotate? Spence joy good enough? BS
    Smith, great game then out completely? WTF

  26. Mike Says:

    Spence not good enough?