“Realistic Threats For Double-Digit Wins”

June 6th, 2018

The Bucs are not an under-the-radar team this year. High grades and expectations exist in many prominent circles. 

The NFL-obsessed Around The League crew at NFL.com knows the deal, and their leader, Gregg Rosenthal, spelled it out in a recent look at the power in every division.

He ranked the NFC South as clearly toughest division in football, in part because of Tampa Bay.

Great divisions are competitive from top to bottom, and the Bucs’ stirring comeback win over the Saints in Week 17 of last season was a reminder that there are no easy games here. It was also a window into Tampa’s potential, which should be more fully realized now that the Bucs have bolstered their defensive line this offseason.

This is the only division where all four teams are realistic threats for double-digit wins, which comes back to their quarterbacks. Productive passing games are more consistent from year to year than strong defenses, and this is a division led by quarterbacks: Matt Ryan and Cam Newton have won two of the last three MVPs, while Drew Brees was playing at a championship level last season. The 2017 Bucs finished fifth in drive success rate, according to Football Outsiders, with a fluky dead-last ranking in lost fumbles per drive torpedoing their season. No lead is safe in a division with quarterbacks this good.

Joe agrees that the Bucs are “realistic threats for double-digit wins.” Ten wins likely is an appropriate ceiling for this team in 2018, as Joe sits here on a June morning.

So by that logic, there really is no reason for another losing Bucs campaign.

28 Responses to ““Realistic Threats For Double-Digit Wins””

  1. Kobe Faker Says:

    “10 wins??? That Klueless Koetter Koolaid is strong stuff!”

    Kobe Faker

  2. put up or shut up Says:

    i believe it when i see it, otherwise sos

  3. Lamarcus Says:

    *blowing raspberries*
    Not when the last article was JW trying to hard to win……. And everyone else was doing…… Watching him??? And then make a issue out of him trying to hard to win

    No way man. This is a glaring issue. THIS NOT A WINNING TEAM.

  4. Destinjohnny Says:

    To many moving parts

  5. 813bucboi Says:

    i agree….no reason to have another losing season…..and the south is a very tough division…..

    but I disagree with Gregg Rosenthal regarding that last game…..we won in spite of dirk…..he wanted to play it safe and put the game into the hands or rather leg of a shaky kicker….Winston ignored him and called his own play…..

    that should tell folks that Winston has learned all he can from dirk and he needs someone else to take him to the next level….Winston has plateaued under dirk…..

    10 wins and playoffs or go fishin


  6. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Here are two questions.

    Are the Bucs a better team than last year?
    Will the Bucs record be better than last year?

    I think the answer to both is absolutely yes….but the real question on both truly is.

    How much better?

  7. AlteredEgo Says:

    Yep…I think double digit wins are a very real possibility…especially if they kick azz in the first 3 games…. it has never been the coaches/coaching/play calling/ playing too far off/blah…blah..blah….to this point …it has been the talent on the roster….the talent has not been this strong in over a decade….a fast start is key !…catch the league off guard …I still say it’ll realistically be the 2nd half of 2019 when the roster kicks azz on a regular basis…another draft and FA signing period ….hopefully they are ahead of schedule….Jameis playing like a generic QB Brad Johnson/Fitz as examples is the tipping point

  8. Lamarcus Says:

    The Qb can’t have a winning spirit so idk if even 3 wins is reachable at this point. We need dogs on this team. It’s littered with softies

    Then we draft man corners to play off with?

  9. Not there yet Says:

    10 wins should be the floor. Teams have done so much more with less.

  10. Anonymous Says:

    I am amazed at the continuous negativity from Visitors to this Bucs website… Why do you who talk down on everything the Bucs are doing to improve, Keep coming back?

  11. Casual Observer Says:

    If the DB coaches can develop a sensible new strategy this year, they can do it.

  12. Bama Rich Says:

    Anonymous, my sentiments exactly!

  13. Lord Cornelius Says:

    Not thinking floor or ceiling really. Don’t get blown out in any games and win more games than you lose is a good floor expectation imo. Year 4 in the same offense. Year 3 in the same defense. Even with just average to below average talent the staff should have this team competing every week; but I believe our talent is better than average at this point.

  14. Wausa Says:

    I enjoy the format on joebucsfan and I am a frequent visitor, but I agree Anonymous and Bama Rich.
    The writers on joebucsfan and a lot of the comments are so negative it makes it difficult to want to read a lot of the articles on here.

  15. Pickgrin Says:

    Playoffs would be nice…

    Anything less than 8 wins would make this season an absolute failure and should likely result in sweeping coaching changes.

    Win or be fired. It’s year 3 – no excuses!

    I believe that Dirk Koetter is still one of the top offensive minds in the game. I believe that Mike Smith is an excellent coach and that his defense can be very successful given the right components.

    The time to prove it is NOW gentlemen…

  16. BucTooth Says:


  17. 813bucboi Says:


    im not buying that lack of talent excuse…..no one said a peek about lack of talent during the 5game winning streak…..no one from the media to joe said, boy, that team is depleted with talent….they sure are overachieving…..

    no one said that because our roster was better in 2016 than 2015….we had just gotten smitty, grimes, ayers, spence and VHG……we had a 10win roster in 2016…..

    no one said, boy, we beat up the bears with a lousy roster……that didn’t happen…..

    the coaches are the reason why we went 5-11…..folks can blame baker, ward and other things if they want but the coaches never made any adjustments or failed to get creative…..


  18. Anonymous Says:

    What’s the Bucs win total next year on the over/under ? 6 1/2 ? Time to place your bets ladies and germs. Big money to be made !

  19. uckinator Says:

    What’s the win total odds for the Bucs next year ? 6 1/2 ? Time to place your bets ladies and germs. Big money to be made ! …Except… we play in the toughest division in the NFL. Ouch !

  20. Jmarkbuc Says:


    You must be new to being a Bucs fan…

    Heard it all before, how much improved we are..blah blah blah. Talk is cheap.


  21. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Again…if ROJO is the real deal and we have a good not just decent running game with Barber and ROJO….Jameis blows up big time!!!

  22. The Buc Realist Says:

    I would agree with the assessment of being a double digit winning threat!!!!! The roster is getting depth, and the coaches have the ability and shown to cover up weaknesses in the roster!!!!!

    The ceiling is being raised!!!!! The question is the floor??? Due to the youth of the roster and all the new free-agents??????

    GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!

  23. Buccfan37 Says:

    Wow early predictions in early June, time does fly so we actually are on the doorstep of those fuzzy Buc 2018 season guesses. Mine is the Bucs will be very entertaining this year and finish .500 or better.

  24. Mike Johnson Says:

    Here comes the JHIZZ!!!!
    Don’t beleive anything about these Bucs..until they do it.
    WIN or Go Fishing Koetter and Smitty!!

  25. Tom S. Says:

    Eventually the Bucs will win 10 games in a season again. Unless the Glazers give Licht the Matt Millen treatment, neither Licht nor Koetter will be there to see it.

    Vegas doesn’t have the Bucs at 6.5 wins this year because they are expected to be great. For comparison Vegas has the line for the Browns at 5.5 next year.

  26. El_Buc941 Says:

    Joe I’m afraid that Tampa can get 10+ wins this year and that still won’t be enough for the playoffs. It what happens when you play in the best division in the entire NFL.

  27. Casey Morgan Says:

    9-7 is the floor.

  28. unbelievable Says:

    8-8 is the floor, 11-5 is the ceiling