And The Bar Hits $100 Million Guaranteed

May 3rd, 2018

You like that, Team Glazer?

It was serious coin when quarterback Kirk Cousins locked down $82.5 million guaranteed from the Vikings in March.

Today, the franchise QB bar jumped quite a bit, nearly 25 percent. Word of Matt Ryan’s new deal comes via D. Orlando Ledbetter of the mighty Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

The Falcons reached a five-year, $150 million contract extension with their quarterback on Thursday. Overall, Ryan’s contract is now worth $169.25 million, with $100 million guaranteed. After next season, he will average $30 million per season.

Wow. That fifth-year (2019) option on Jameis’ contract for $21 million is starting to feel like peanuts. Heck, brittle Sam Bradford will earn $20 million this year for the Cardinals, while Mike Glennon soaked in $18.5 million with the Bears just last year alone.

So $30 million annually and $100 million guaranteed is the new bar for quarterbacks — while a backup just won the Super Bowl, the same guy who beat Case Keenum in the conference championship. What a country!

The QB money is sure to rise, which will make it even more attractive for teams to chase rookies who can win while they’re still under the inexpensive rookie deals.

Good luck, Jameis. A strong season will get you paid.

88 Responses to “And The Bar Hits $100 Million Guaranteed”

  1. Easy Says:

    It’s gonna take a strong season because he’s a middle of the road QB.

    Free tmaxcon

  2. Rod Munch Says:

    The choke artist that is Matt Ryan, LOL!

    I love how people say the Falcon coaches were dumb in the second half of the SB to put the game on the shoulders of Matt Ryan. If you believe that then you also believe the MVP award he won is fake news. Personally I just had a gut feeling that he’d somehow blow the game because that’s what Matt Ryan does. Sure you can quote all his regular season stats when it doesn’t matter, but when the pressure is on he’s just another Alex Smith.

  3. Pick6 Says:

    Teams will not be able to keep a QB around for less than 25 million a year from this point forward, period. within 2 years someone will break the 35 million mark and make 30 million the floor for a serious offer

  4. Pick6 Says:

    *i’m not talking about a blake bortles, tyrod taylor type of keeping around. for a guy who stops you from looking for the next guy, it now starts at $25m and goes up based on that QB’s resume

  5. Elita Vita Says:

    It’s a billion dollar industry. Makes sense for players profits to increase as well.

  6. Kobe Faker Says:

    Aaron Rodgers will be signing for 32 milly per within months

    **Teams going to make multi millions more very soon with sports wagering being legal end of june.

    “Jaboo wont be stepping on the grass until we get at least 25 milly and match Derek Carr”

    Antoine Winston

  7. John meeks Says:

    Alex Smith is a choke?I seem to remember him having a great game when the Colts came back and won against the chiefs.it was that over rated chiefs defense that cost them the last 2 playoff games kc has played in!how are you gonna blame Alex Smith?You may want to look at the stats rod munch! I don’t see how you can blame Alex Smith.

  8. Pickgrin Says:

    “What a country!” – LOL

    I’m glad to see the Falcons commit so much $ to Matt Ryan. He ain’t worth it and now they are stuck with him.

    Winston’s agent just did the Looney Tunes “ca-ching/dollar sign” eye blink when he saw this….

  9. AlteredEgo Says:

    Sorry Jameis is not there yet… he has 2 years under the paper work … hope we don’t have to talk about this in the spring of 2020

  10. Sam Says:

    How many wins does Jamie have?

  11. Bucnut2 Says:

    anyone who thinks Winston is in the same class as Matt Ryan needs serious medical attention. Want to know the big difference Ryan wins, Winston does not!

  12. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    Like they say “If you play well, they pay well”. This is insane money being paid to these players, and one has to wonder if it will ever stop.

  13. AlteredEgo Says:

    Admission should be free into NFL Stadiums…

  14. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    100% bucnut2 if jameis is same as past 3 years he is just another EJ Manuel and its time to move on because he will only be a 28-18 guy every year, I hope that this is HIS year and he LEADS the bucs to the playoffs

  15. Papa578 Says:

    It gets old reading the negative swipes at Jameis. Is he the best in the NFL? No, not yet. Damn, he’s still young with a ton of upside. Does he make boneheaded plays..yes. Then, he will pull off a play that is amazing. Be patient people, it will pay off. I have been a diehard fan since 1978. Jameis is the best starting qb we have ever had. Relax, be willing to grow with him. It will pay off. When he wins his first Super Bowl, I want it to be as a Buc. When it comes time to pay him, I’m sure the owners will do what’s right. We as fans need to stay the course. Yes I know it has been a long azz journey but I’m willing to hang in for the payoff. How about you?

  16. Rrsrq Says:

    The Falcon fans just got love for Ryan and not sure he can bring them a ring, I hear them all the time, their answer is always, who can you replace him with, he will have that cloud until/if he wins the big one.

  17. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Papa578 im glad you are patient and you have a GMC, laizez fare attitude but, they are professionals who are paid like kings and i would hope all 53 want to win, im sick of watching the losing product they have rolled out there since 2004 it sucks, its time for jameis to lead and WIN … NOW, this season, jville did it, rams did it, bills did it, titans did it, EAGLES did it BIG, so ya this buc fan here is lowering the bar for patience…. ITS GO TIME to quote izzy mandelbaum

  18. Defense Rules Says:

    @Elita Vita … “It’s a billion dollar industry. Makes sense for players profits to increase as well.” Agree that the $$$ players make should increase as owners’ profits rise BUT … this whole professional sports $$$ has become ridiculous. Not just pro football, but baseball, basketball, even hockey.

    $100 mil guaranteed on a 5-year contract? $30 mil a year (plus)? Matty Ice is a very good QB IMO, but over $150 mil for 5-years? Seriously? The ENTIRE Atlanta coaching staff probably makes half (or less) of what Ryan will make each year.

    What’s curious to me is that the ones footing the bill … the fans … just go along with it. (Maybe Realist is right; we’re all ‘sheep’). Cost of season tickets (or even individual games) have gotten to be cost-prohibitive for many, maybe for most. And for those who say “Ha, I watch it for free on TV” think again. TV money from advertisers is what’s fueling this runaway train, and companies don’t pay exorbitant $$$ to advertise on TV out of the goodness of their hearts.

    OK, I feel better. Rant over.

  19. Bird Says:

    People saying choke and stuck with matt Ryan are absolutely crazy.

    All the guy has done is win and should have won super bowl already

  20. Bird Says:

    Hope it puts Falcons in cap hell

  21. Rod Munch Says:

    John Meeks – Did you watch that Tennessee – KC game? Alex Smith single handedly gave that game away, just like he always does. If he was any good do you think they’d have gave up multiple 1st to get a QB last year and shipped off Smith this year? Alex Smith stinks, he’s like Matt Ryan without the regular season stats.

  22. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    I’ve noticed something very disheartening.
    If u look on the Buccaneers app it will show pictures from practice, and within the last 3 practices that they’ve posted I have not seen JW3 taking a single snap behind the 1st string O line or throwing to a 1st string wr. It has been all Fitzpatrick. Is this a sign? May be nothing

  23. Rod Munch Says:

    Bird – LOL!

  24. Ndog Says:

    You can always count on Altered and Bucnut for some good ole Jameis bashing. Just please don’t disappear guys when you are further proven wrong.

  25. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Just the way the market works, whoever is next will make more than Ryan and then the next guy will make more, then 3 QB’s down the line will make Ryan’s contract look like chump change.

  26. Ndog Says:

    Dusty what did each team you mentioned below have that the Bucs didnt?

    jville did it, rams did it, bills did it, titans did it, EAGLES did it BIG

    That’s right they all actually had a DEFENSE! What is so hard to understand about that?

  27. webster Says:

    Dusty is an IDIOT. he says the rams, titans, bills, eagles, jville all won. He says its time for jameis to lead and when. The difference you butt hurt mariota lover is all those teams had a running game and a very good defense. Hey genius, did you see a running game or very good defense on the bucs last year? That will be a no!!! Why cant you butt hurt mariota lovers go some where else? Its really not that difficult to understand but if you want to continue to be an idiot then so be it.

  28. SB Says:

    This coming from a Life Long Gators fan. ALL of you guys that are knocking Jameis are Complete Phuking Idiots!!! Just like Jerry Glanville, no actually Worse than Glanville. Kid has set NFL Records and has a gunslinger mentality for the ONE idiot that compared him to EJ Manuel you need to go rent a wood chipper and throw yourself in it! Kid has had No Defense, No Running Game and a Sub Par OL. Idiots the Lot of you!!!!
    Rant over.

  29. SCBucsFan Says:

    What amazes me is this is a Bucs fan board yet about 1/3 of the posters are hoping we lose. I feel sorry for them.

  30. SOEbuc Says:

    Jameis hurt his shoulder to keep him out four games last year. May be suspended at the beginning of this year. And this team has had one winning season (9-7) since he’s been here. He better show up big this year if he wants to get paid that much next year.

  31. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Coming from this idiot, why have those teams done well? defense, running game, etc, hmm sooo because dunderbox licht cannot build a franchise like the other GMs the bucs are where they are, but jameis has yet to prove he is going to turn the corner and be that next elite QB…and PS.. lets hear an excuse as to why Jimmy G is winning… their defense is gawd awful

  32. passthebuc Says:

    Rock-a-bye, baby, in the treetop
    When the wind blows the cradle will rock
    When the bough breaks the cradle will fall
    And down will come baby, cradle and all

  33. HFXBUC Says:

    This is going to alter the NFL. More QB movement in FA, more QBS drafted, more short term QBs 5 year guys who can run RPO, then move on to the next guy when they get drafted. College FB is built around system not QBs. NFL will follow and Lamar Jackson, Tyrod Taylor, Deshaun Watson types will be the new prototype.

  34. nate_tweetz Says:

    Licht should have signed Jameis to a long term extension for 22 mil per before this QB stuff got out of hand. If they would have offered Jameis that a couple months ago, he would have jumped at it. Now, if he has even a decent season, he will be pushing 30 mil a year.

  35. SCBucsFan Says:

    Hfx same thing was said about RG3 and Vick too but the misses outnumber the hits

  36. JWBUCS Says:

    Salaries reaching the level of ridiculous will be come the demise of the NFL…. No way the Falcons, or any other team, can maintain a Full Roster with enough High Performing Players, based upon current salaries, while trying to pay a QB 30 plus million a year.

  37. catcard202 Says:

    By picking up the 5th yr option on QB3…The Bucs ownership have set themselves up to either stay the course or another “start fresh”, after next yr…If the Bucs win 10+ & reach the play-offs…An extension will be forthcoming for QB3-Others..The FO & CoachingStaff will get extensions too.

    But if it goes the other way…The FO/Coaching Staff will be gone & QB3/GMC/Kwon become trade chips…While plenty on here will bemoaning that the Bucs could have had Josh Allen, Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson had this FO not traded away the #7 pick in this draft.

  38. JimBuc2 Says:

    TV revenues are down. Those ‘patriot’ social justice warriors (who BTW are never found in any other forum) cost the NFL big dollars. And now teams need to shell out $100+ million for one rock slinger? I’m not a businessman, but even an idiot realizes that player compensation is ridiculous. No vertebrate, no matter his skill is worth that kinda dough. Throw a fastball into the endzone and suddenly you’re more valuable than the modestly paid guy who actually commands the worlds greatest military? I don’t think so. Keep this nonsense up and the game becomes pay-per-view, (lookin’ at you Jerry Jones) with only super rich fans (count up how many of those folks you personally know. Yeah, when was the last time you quaffed a game time brewski with someone like that?) Here’s an idea:
    No more fat contracts. You get paid per point, per block, per stop, etc. I like that. It’s the common man that funds this game, push it out of reach and see what happens.

  39. Licht’s Out Says:

    I’d take JW over Melted Ice as they both stand in their current careers. I’m still very bullish on JW…Melted Ice is ( hopefully ) on the way down while his cost has gone through the roof of the fancy new Georgia Dome.

  40. Not there yet Says:

    Love Winston but just because someone got 100 mil guaranteed doesn’t mean Winston will. Ryan had been to multiple playoffs, conference championship and has a league MVP. You think Winston will come close to that without having accomplished at least one thing on that list? I agree until proven otherwise he’s middle of the pack and the worst qb in his division

  41. Rod Munch Says:

    You nutjobs that think Licht and Winston’s agent aren’t already working on a new deal, LOL! Winston is literally the best QB in team history, there is zero dispute about that statement. The Glazers aren’t going to go through yet another rebuild and trying to find yet another franchise QB – Winston is the THE guy and will be the guy for the next 15 years. If you don’t like Winston then I highly suggest you take a trip to the Skyway Bridge, stop at the top, and take the express route down directly into the water (please be kind and take an Uber so you car isn’t blocking traffic, thanks!).

    Winston is the man and he’s already proven it – if you don’t see that then that’s on you.

  42. Turn Off the Licht Says:

    Jameis Winston is a BUM who should have been shown the door after he was accused of sexual misconduct AGAIN!

  43. JimBuc2 Says:

    @Munch;
    If you are cool with exorbitant salaries for athletes I will happily drive you to the nearest tall bridge.

  44. AlteredEgo Says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f-MZ2HRHQ

  45. Bucbob89 Says:

    Jamies worth every red penny of it when he gets it’s .. and jamies is young ..old ass Matt Ryan is not Tom Brady and will not play into his 40s wtf are they thinking as for jamies his best days are ahead.

  46. Trench War Says:

    Papa578

    No offence, but do you think you can wait that long? I’m wondering myself if I’ll live long enough to ever see a consecutive run of winning seasons. Not just one peppered in every 12 years. This city deserves better, and so do their thick skinned fans. Pay Winston, after he shows he’s can carry this team. He has a huge supporting cast now. Even if our defense is mediocre their is still no reason why Winston with all his offensive weapons can’t put crooked letters on the board. Salute

  47. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    This site is absolutely toxic. That why I very rarely post here anymore.

  48. Lamarcus Says:

    Dry Ice is not worth nothing but 100 dollars after choking the SB. Since qbs are the only reason a team wins on this site

  49. JimBuc2 Says:

    @ Mike Evans GOAT
    You don’t like this site, don’t visit. The Joes put in endless hours to make JoeBucsFan the great web stop for all things Buccaneer. The only toxicity I notice (save for Kobe Fake and Tmaxipad) seems to flow from your keyboard. Thanks to both Joes for an excellent website. I love those guys.

  50. Greecosuave Says:

    FANS DONT DICTATE PLAYERS PAY! All this is doing is creating reapsentment towards JW. I can bet you if the Bucs have a bad season and Dirk gets fired, JW will be getting paid. If the Bucs extend Dirk, JW gets paid. If anything in between happens, JW gets paid. So stop with the “backseat” GM. JW is our QB for now and the future of TB.

  51. Jim Says:

    How much is a losing QB worth, these days? Just wondering…

  52. Bucko40 Says:

    The Glazerhouse Boys will NEVER fork over that kind of coin for Winston if 1- he gets suspended. And 2- he doesn’t lead the Bucs to the playoffs in either of the next 2 seasons.

  53. AlteredEgo Says:

    Did not Easter just pass…all that is missing is a Crucifixion…nice photo selection

  54. BuccaneEric75 Says:

    Turn off the Licht, your key word was “accused”. Now he’s a target. If Winston being accused means he’s guilty, I guess you wouldn’t mind if he got the BRIAN BANKS treatment. Look it up. It’s terrible what happened to that guy.

  55. Pick6 Says:

    One of the most prolific QBs at age 24 in the history of the league, despite league worst defenses and run games 2/3 of his career, not that that’s worth anything to some fans. He has a lot to prove from a career and legacy standpoint but let’s not pretend a second contract isn’t automatic barring some massive off the field embarrassment

  56. AlteredEgo Says:

    As Pick 6 says
    ” He has a lot to prove “

  57. Baker Mayfield Says:

    We have Jameis for 3 more years, After that time most of us will know what Jameis is. The Nole fans, well you know how Nole fans are. Anyway during the next 3 years Jameis will flip the switch and become a franchise QB or he will keep playing and acting like he is now and he will be a free agent and fleece some team that thinks they can fix him. But if he doesn’t get better than he is now he will not get that big contract here.

  58. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    I don’t care about stats

    ………STATS ARE FOR LOSERS!!!!!……..(thanks duheem!)

    …..all it matters is can he win you games when it counts?

    …..does he come through in the clutch?

    So far from our crotch grabbing QB…..the answer is a resounding “NO!”

    I hate fans who can only defend Jaboo by spouting off “stats”

    …..I’d rather have a consistent winning QB who has ZERO STATS ……versus a QB who holds all the stats

  59. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    This is Ryan’s third contract. Since the last one he’s been to a superbowl.

    If Jameis can get us to one this year, he’ll earn a contract that big. But right now, he hasn’t earned that much.

  60. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Holy cow…how many new usernames were created today??? Did a few people get banned?

    Jameis will be absolutely fine. People who want him gone seem to forget the days of Chris Simms, Luke McCown and Josh Freeman.

    We jumped the fence and got lucky. The grass was greener. I sure as heck don’t want to climb back over to wade through the mud again.

    Wintston is the best QB the Bucs have ever had, and frankly, it will take more than an accusation of crotch grabbing for me to want him gone. Even if he was guilty, which he isn’t.

  61. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I personally want Jameis to do two things. Beat Mariota at least once. Make us regular playoff contenders.

    Thats it for now.

  62. BucsFanScout3 Says:

    Jameis is worth every penny and more. How he has kept the Bucs competitive with a burnfence in rebuilding mode. Talent and teaching is finally reaching the ability to produce. Question, how many new starters on defense will there be next season?

  63. Licht’s Out Says:

    * formerly JonBuc here…nearly banned by Buccaneer BrownEye’s jelly-belly aching to the moderators…for the record and in the spirit of transparency. Now having said that, if Jameis ran an elf erotica site targeted at pre-teens, he’d be banned for life by the NFL. Thank God you’re not in the NFL, eh Peter?!

  64. AlteredEgo Says:

    Well…folks….it seems we are right back where we started….tough row to hoe being a Bucs fan….1st ever preseason game….rolled back into my $75 a month garage apartment in Plant City with a tire going down….nail in it…someone didn’t like parking in the neighborhood for the new game in town…some folks don’t like me here either…too bad…

  65. TrollSlayer Says:

    i notice tmaxcon was banned thank goodness i was so sick of the cancer 93 rhetoric— as for jameis this is his year no excuses they have built it all around him we have given him now a legit RB in jones, along with fixing the offensive line and continuing to stock him with weapons and now they are shoring up the defensive woes with a sick d-line and hopefully an improved secondary no more excuses jaboo the time is NOW! i have faith

  66. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    @jimbuc
    Go and pull my negative comments. It should be easy since there are so many of them according to you.
    I never said anything about the Joes. I never said that I won’t visit the site. I only said that all of these Ill informed and Buc bashing bozos that comment here are very toxic. That’s the reason that I comment less. I used to comment all the time, but the influx of morons lately is unbearable.

  67. Eric Says:

    [Accusing any Bucs player of a felony and suggesting a bribe was paid for a cover-up can and will get you run. Joe’s pretty sure he’s warned you before. There won’t be another. Joe is responsible for every word typed on this site. Not about to lose a successful business Joe has sweated for over the years because someone has an ax to grind. — Joe]

  68. I Bleed Pewter and Red Says:

    Mike Evans GOAT

    pot calling the kettle black …that’s a pretty broad brush stroke without naming names. I think what irks me more are people who publicly shame others who have a difference in opinion. Makes you seem petty. …do you need a safe space?

  69. NFLNut Says:

    *****************************

    Jameis had a higher passer rating than Matt Ryan last year, despite playing behind a worse O-Line and with far, far, far less support in the run game … and he’s NINE YEARS YOUNGER.

    Jameis will get FAR MORE $$$$$$$ than Matt Ryan got if he wants it and doesn’t offer the Bucs a hometown discount …

    *****************************

  70. Duke Says:

    Rod,

    I didn’t see your post until now. The thread was plays out there…and you pointed to the drive rt before half. I answered your post on the thread. .

    Frankly, I don’t believe that we’re talking about the same game.
    Because, if we are you might want to rethink your comments. You’re saying “right” but pointing left.

  71. Tval Says:

    NOBODY had ryan in any elite qb field 2 yrs ago… lmao!! before his coming out season he was widely regarded as an overrated bust.. stop acting like hes head and shoulders above jameis.. he has a rb group,
    defense, & wr corps that makes the bucs look pitiful.. sorry! again, relativity and bucs fans… LOST!!!

  72. Tval Says:

    the “common man funds this game” lmao!! talk about out of touch… the common man cant attend the super bowl, goof troop. go take your hannity talking points back to fox

  73. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    I bleed once a month
    Prove it, go pull my negative comments. U don’t see me on here everyday bashing Licht (who has done a wonderful job) or Winston. Y’all mugs change ur names every other week cuz u say some embarrassingly dumb $hit and want to run from it. I’ve never even seen u or jim post here b4.

  74. Fire Lichtt Says:

    With as poorly as the Bucs draft, 30 million may not be enough to keep him here. There should be a clause in Jameis new contract that says Jameis and the coaches control the draft…

  75. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Licht’s Out Says
    “* formerly JonBuc here…nearly banned by Buccaneer BrownEye’s jelly-belly aching to the moderators…”

    I assure you, I’ve said nothing to any moderators. It doesn’t surprise me that you cannot accept responsibility for any actions you committed that would result in any possible banning. You don’t strike me as a responsible person at all.

    I have no pull with the Joes…probably less than no pull. If…if your were nearly banned, it was because of something you did that was improper.

    And, just so you know…those ‘elves’ are making me money. And my 4th book was just released yesterday. So mock all you like.

    On topic though, I believe Jameis will eventually be worth big money, but I don’t think he should get it until he earns it.

  76. OneBucPerson Says:

    Good, now the Falcons can enjoy being in cap hell soon. I understand that Matt Ryan is the best QB in Falcons history, a former league MVP, and has led the Falcons to the Super Bowl but to give 150 mill with 100 guaranteed to a guy who has a horrendous playoff record and lost aforementioned SB is a bit much. At least when Jameis re-signs it won’t be for anything near that amount, I think I’d love him forever if he actually asked to take less to give more cap space for the team to sign/extend more players. That would shut his haters up for sure.

  77. Licht’s Out Says:

    Buccaneer BrownEye sez:

    And, just so you know…those ‘elves’ are making me money. And my 4th book was just released yesterday. So mock all you like

    * That’s comparable to declaring victory when a kid accepts your candy offerings from the back of your creepy conversion van. But good on you, BrownEye…keep the best sellers coming!

  78. Mike Johnson Says:

    Time for Mr. Winston to deliver. You can’t be..America’s QB and be the last best QB in your division. Evey years its, I got to improve. Ok Jameis..Lets see the improvement. Its next level time for you or..stay in average mediocrity Jameis. And You guys laughed at..steady eddie..Mariotta…. The guy improves slowly..yr after yr.

  79. Reality_43 Says:

    Some people think Jameis Winston is supposed to be on par with guys who have been in the league for 10-15 years.

    Gimme a break.

    Matt Ryan didn’t throw for over 4,000 yards until his 4th year. 4TH YEAR

    Jameis has done it twice and if not hurt, easily would have again with his Yds/Game average.

    In Matt Ryan’s 1st game against Tampa they lost 24-9 and Ryan went 13-33 with 158 yards and 2 picks.

    It takes time people.

    Everyone thinks Jameis should have come in and won the Super Bowl by now.
    He hasn’t even made the playoffs, but that doesn’t mean he is terrible.
    His numbers last year were on par with several teams QBs that made the playoffs.

    This year will be different I feel. No more excuses is right!!

  80. JMan5 Says:

    Thats enough to settle 20 more lawsuits

  81. Almighty Buc Says:

    You can bet there’s going to be a big fat * in that guaranteed contract for Winston.

  82. notabucsfan Says:

    LMFAO. It is refreshing to see that bucs fans are as inept and stupid as bucs management. Last year the bucs didn’t have a running back that would start for a good high school team, an o-line that was high school level, a defense that couldn’t stop a jr high school offense and Winston is the problem? You fans are as ignorant as the bucs management, which is the worst run franchise (of any pro sports team in any sport) outside of cleveland. Face it, you guys are bucs fans and nothing is really new. They are year after year the worst run franchise imagionable. If you aren’t used to losing and being a joke of a team by now you haven’t been paying attention to the bucs history of ineptness and losing, which will continue in to the foreseeable future. Water is still wet and the bucs will still suck.

    What makes you guys think he even wants to be a buc and won’t run to a real team as soon as he possibly can? Put yourself in his shoes. Year after next he will get paid a massive contract because the football folks see what he can be on a real team with competant coaching. So if you were him who would you sign with, a team that has proven year after year after year that they have no clue how to build or manage a team or an actual pro team that has a plan and knows how to win. Add in the hate he hears from ignorant bucs fans and the choice is clear. Good luck starting over, again, in 2020 while JW goes to a real team and wins a cople of super bowls while the bucs will be lucky to win a couple of games as usual. I for one wish like hell you would have selected MM ovet JW. He probably does too.

  83. Oneilbucs Says:

    Where is Winston ???

  84. NFLNut Says:

    ********************

    ^ Bingo.

    I’ve said for years that Jameis should refuse to sign an extension with the Bucs and that he should force the team to franchise him in 2020 so that he can become an unrestricted free agent in 2021 and chose what team he plays for going forward … that may be the Bucs, but he should preserve his right to chose.

    Heck, I think Aaron Rodgers wish he would have preserved his right to choose as he probably would have left the Packers if he could have … all QBs should probably go the Kirk Cousins route if they can pull it off.

    ********************

  85. Dirty Bucs Says:

    Winston isn’t worth it. I’d rather dump a pick or two and move up to draft the best QB available next year than to keep Winston at 30 million per.

  86. Oneilbucs Says:

    Yea and Matt Rayn is worth it y’all kill me on this site. Cousin is worth it to ok lol……

  87. BushidoEvans Says:

    Someone just said Jameis is EJ Manuel…oh my word and luckyy stars Lord above with all your might and power give me strength and do not forsake me with my battle on the moon with lucky charms and pink flamingos running at the speed of light…see? Talking crazy isn’t that hard :). Why are people this way??

  88. BushidoEvans Says:

    TheBucsAnthem how many game has he led the bucs to a fourth quarter lead only to have the defense fold over and over?