Why Go To Penn?
April 28th, 2018
As Joe suggested in an earlier post this afternoon, in 15 years, we all might be working for Justin Watson.
The new Bucs wide receiver, drafted in the fifth round, is about to graduate from the vaunted Wharton School of Business at Penn. You know who else is a graduate of this fine establishment? Our 45th president.
Still, for a guy who apparently is a talented athlete, why Penn?
First, Watson told the Bucs pen and mic club this afternoon he only had two offers from Division-I schools coming out of high school. They would be Buffalo and Akron.
“For me, Penn was the best fit for football and academics,” Watson said. “If football didn’t work out, I’d still be able to provide for my family and support them either way. If I had a chance at the NFL I would put everything into it.”
And he has a chance at the NFL now. We shall see if he gets an NFL gig by putting forth his best effort.
April 28th, 2018 at 3:11 pm
Another Joe Jurevicious? I hope so. The last one worked out pretty well.
April 28th, 2018 at 3:12 pm
*Jurevicius
April 28th, 2018 at 3:14 pm
Humphs days are numbered as much as most of us love him. I’m taking Jameis in my drafts this year, along with one of the qbs that play the Bucs twice a year
April 28th, 2018 at 3:14 pm
Maybe he’s the next Adam Theilen
April 28th, 2018 at 3:15 pm
That’s good you didn’t actually say the word Trump, that would have automatically triggered a lot of cupcakes reading the article. Good thinking Joe.
April 28th, 2018 at 3:21 pm
Uh Oh, you mentioned the pres….snowflake meltdowns in 3. 2. 1.
Loving the pick…this kid was WAAAAAYY under the radar!
April 28th, 2018 at 3:22 pm
Marine buc
Good call. Joe joe was one of my favorite super bowl players.
This kid will play special teams 1st
He his 6’3 6’4. Benched 225 lbs 20 reps. 40 inch Vert and 4.4 forty time .
He has got some tools there. Brate will show him how to be a pro.
Desean Jackson has one year left. Let’s face it at that salary Especially when Jameis salary goes to 20. And marpet, d smith and marpet get deals.
April 28th, 2018 at 3:23 pm
Comparables were thielen from Vikings and hogan from pats.
April 28th, 2018 at 3:41 pm
Oh because those who dont care for trump dont know who joe is talking about. You guys are not too bright are you?
April 28th, 2018 at 3:42 pm
And im sure this guy actually went to class and dont mind reading
April 28th, 2018 at 3:44 pm
You denigrate Watson and Penn when you mention the moron in chief went there. His film looks solid and he is fast. May be able to make the team and add depth!
April 28th, 2018 at 3:46 pm
I look forward to the day when our society has evolved to the point where an NFL prospect’s “camparables” aren’t influenced by race. If you don’t think that’s the case here, you’re living in a fantasy word or just ignorant.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:15 pm
Lol, Matt B with a comment coming out of left field. No idea where that comment came from but makes reading the comments fun. Random, irrelevant statements pulled out of thin air are awesome.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:17 pm
IQ matters and with Ryan Fitzpatrick, Cameron Brate and now Justin Watson, we have it in spades … I love that Fitz is their to mentor Jameis, love that Brate is there to mentor OJ Howard and LOVE this Justin Watson pick and feel he can be a quality #3 receiver by 2019!
April 28th, 2018 at 4:18 pm
The second someone says the word “cupcake” I know their intelligence level and world-views are very narrow at best.
I’m a Democrat AND a U.S. veteran. Special Forces.
My son is currently in the U.S. Army.
Special forces as well.
Both Democrats. Who served our country and protected your rights to demean others for no reason.
Keep at it.
You’re welcome.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:19 pm
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BTW … I’d like to hear from Pickgrin regards to our cap situation.
I loved the Alex Kappa pick but doubt he’s ready to start at guard until 2019, so, do we really need to cut Sweezy to get to the cap line, or can we re-structure Gholston or someone else and hold onto Sweezy?
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April 28th, 2018 at 4:19 pm
Matt B Says:
April 28th, 2018 at 3:46 pm
I look forward to the day when our society has evolved to the point where an NFL prospect’s “comparables” aren’t influenced by race
It’s inevitable and it’s reality because that it literally how everyone thinks. Do you think Baker Mayfield likes being called Johnny football or Winston being called jamarcus Russell or Bryon leftwich? It just is and expecting it to change is like expecting fans to stop thinking they know how to draft better than those paid to do it.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:21 pm
He reminds me of Joe Jurevicius
April 28th, 2018 at 4:23 pm
or todays Jordy Nelson ….same build
April 28th, 2018 at 4:35 pm
Smh, Jason & his staff are very good at finding these type of gems.
Good Sh!t
Go Bucs!
April 28th, 2018 at 4:36 pm
I’m pretty sure Joe never ran a 4.42 40.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:36 pm
Tony from L.A
Hat Tip Sir!
April 28th, 2018 at 5:10 pm
I am an independent (don’t like labels and I think for myself)
Army, 82 Airborne, Fort Bragg
…and I love cupcakes
April 28th, 2018 at 5:18 pm
The Bucs look more like a fckn chess or debate team than a nfl team. WT actual F.
IM CONVINCED AINT NOBODY HERE INTERESTED IN WINNING AND THE GLAZERS OBVIOUSLY HIRED THE WRONG GM.
JON ROBINSON WAS THE BRAINS OF THE OPERATION OBVIOSLY.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL. YOU DESERVE TO BE BLESSED CUZ YOULL DAMN SURE NEVER GET TO SEE WINNING FOOTBALL EVER AGAIN. SM (mf) H
April 28th, 2018 at 5:19 pm
I GOT YOUR GEMS RIGHT HERE
April 28th, 2018 at 5:56 pm
Licht has spent this offseason , making the Bucs a more intelligent team.
Last years team was , um, stupid.
At the NFL level, Brains win games.
Ask the Patriots.
April 28th, 2018 at 6:08 pm
DB55,
Are you drunk?
April 28th, 2018 at 6:23 pm
So, I thought Licht was brilliant. I was pining for Nelson or another sure thing guard like Wynn or Hernandez. Some of you guys were pining for James, others for Barkley, Michel, Guice or N. Chubb, still others for Fitzpatrick, then JJax or the other Jax.
But we’re going 1v31 in this draft and didn’t have but one 1 and one 2 before the fourth round. Instead we fleeced Buffalo gettin two extra 2s for going 7-12. The Gruden tribe got a three and a 5 for going from 9-15 and everyone talked about how brilliantly they worked the draft. The tradedown to NE gave us the ammunition to move up and get our guard. I expect us to release Sweezy as soon as he’s healthy and free up cap space for an emergency.
You can whine about this pick or that pick, but we don’t know as much as Licht’s team does. There are reports that both CBs had much better times in workouts than they did at the combine. Our coaches personally coached a couple of the later round picks in the Shrine game. Private visits, hours and hours of tapes, pro days and other workouts. Let’s give Licht and his team a temporary benefit-of-doubt pass until proven wrong.
April 28th, 2018 at 6:38 pm
TouchDownTampaBay, read all of the comparisons in the comment section. Everyone’s comparing him to all of the white WRs. The only names on here were Jordy, Theilen, Hogan, Jurevicius. Doesn’t he remind anyone of any black WRs, because all of those white WRs mentioned don’t even compare to each other. That’s like comparing a black WR in the draft to Mike Evans and DeSean Jackson, just because.
April 28th, 2018 at 6:40 pm
It’s like Winston. He kept getting compared to Jamarcus Russell by certain people, and to Big Ben by people who actually compare skills.
April 28th, 2018 at 6:41 pm
BuccaneEric75
He reminds me of Willie Gault ….is that better @sshole
April 28th, 2018 at 6:48 pm
Trench, wow, I hit a nerve. Not being an a$$, just telling the truth. No one can read all of the comments above and not see that he’s being compared to them because he’s white. Maybe you weren’t, if not, I apologize. It always happens this way for white WRs and black QBs. Just like Vitale was the next Alstott, and I’m a white guy.
April 28th, 2018 at 6:50 pm
Trench, I can see that. Gault with more size. Hopefully he can nab that #5 spot for us
April 28th, 2018 at 6:58 pm
If you really were SF, you wouldn’t have talked about it.
This is a page about Bucs football not how you feel about the President. I’m sure the Joes get a kick out of y’all sniveling about who’s right and wrong. WHO CARES!!!
The main topic of the post, it’s a good pick. The kid will have a season to develop. Hopefully he wasn’t drafted to replace Hump.
April 28th, 2018 at 7:36 pm
@Tony from LA,
“…and protected your rights to demean others for no reason. Keep at it.
You’re welcome.”
Loved that, that is a keeper!
April 28th, 2018 at 9:19 pm
BuccaneEric75
I don’t care. It’s people like you who take political correctness too far. It’s like I am supposed to, on purpose, compare someone to an opposite skin color just so I don’t upset someone. …..weak
April 28th, 2018 at 11:11 pm
NFLNut Says:
BTW … I’d like to hear from Pickgrin regards to our cap situation.
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Nothing has really changed. Our draft pool # wound up being $8.1M
We have a $1M dead cap hit (lowest in the league – $951k actually)
OTC shows our “projected” cap # as $194,485M which is not correct – not sure where they came up with that # from… I find OTC to have multiple inaccuracies so don’t put any faith in their ciphering.
Spotrac shows everything and how they came to those #s and it all adds up – so I believe Spotrac is very close to accurate on most all counts.
According to Spotrac – our 2018 cap # is $192.4M –
($177.2M is the NFL designated # for 2018 and the Bucs carried over $15.2M from 2017 so the math seems correct.)
Spotrac says our “Top 51” contracts add up to $183M
$183M (Top 51 contracts) + $1M (dead cap $) + $8.1M (rookie pool) = $192.1M
$192.4M (Bucs cap #) minus $192.1M (Top51 contracts + dead cap + rookie pool) = $300k
We are $300,000 under the cap currently using those figures.
BUT….
No incentives are included in those figures. Grimes has $1.5M in LTBE incentives this year for instance. Curry has incentives but I’m not sure what they are. There are others (like Sweezy who has incentives but will hopefully be gone)
I think you have to add at least $2-$3M in incentives that will have to be paid and added to the cap – and that’s likely a conservative #…
Then there’s this “Top 51” business. OK fine – but there are 53 players on the final roster so adding two min salaries for spots 52 and 53 adds another $1M to that Top 51 contracts # being used as the base.
And what about Practice Squad players that get brought up during the year? Usually every year you bring up at least 3,4,5 PS players to the 53 man roster. They get paid pro rated week by week on a min salary. So if its just for 2 weeks – then its only like $60k – but if they get brought up week 6 and stick the rest of the year (Due to a starter going on IR for instance) – then it’s more like $350k that player counts against the cap additionally.
So conservatively – you have to add at least $1M for practice squad players who get brought up to the final tally as well.
So taking all that into consideration – I’d say as of right now – realistically the Bucs are about $3-4M over our cap #.
Its a moving target obviously.
Lots of things could happen.
We could trade DJax prior to the trade deadline this year and cut $4M off what we would have to pay him just as a forinstance.
Cutting Sweezy adds $1.875M to our dead cap # but nets a savings of $4.6M.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:42 pm
Bet we can trade hump in the near future as well as GMC or LVD more. Picks please Jason is a Monster when it come the draft
April 29th, 2018 at 12:10 am
Trench, you’re funny. I already said if you weren’t basing your comparison on color that I was sorry. That’s an apology. Then you called my position weak. That means you’re defensive. I’m not a Democrat, not even close, and I hate the PC talk. It’s not about me wanting you to make a comparison about color. It’s the fact that EVERYONE compared him to a white guy. I’ve already apologized to you if I was wrong about your comp. What about all of the others?
April 29th, 2018 at 2:31 am
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PICKGRIN,
You’re the man when it comes to the cap; THANK YOU for that informative post, I really appreciate it!
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April 29th, 2018 at 7:42 am
@trench war
@bucanEric
Come on guys! Unite! Dont fight!
I see both of your perspectives.
Christian McCaffery has faced racism, yes , racism, his entire career. Jordy Nelson has faced racism his entire career also. Racism goes in many directions in America.
What is racism? Its based on treating people differently because they are different from you in appearance. It happens all the time in America from every direction!
Watson does remind me a little of Thielen, but much thicker and stronger.
In my opinion, his body type and speed remind me of Dez Bryant or Brian Quick. Jordy Nelson is also not a good comparison. Humphries is dumb conparison!
6-3, 225, 4.4 speed?
Dez Bryant and Brian Quick are better comparisons.
April 29th, 2018 at 7:45 am
And Kenny Britt too!
April 29th, 2018 at 9:32 am
Good luck to the kid!! Just being drafted from an Ivy League school says volumes. I think he & a Bobo will be #5 & #6 receivers both with upside. Btw is it me or does it feel like Bobo will be a major threat to be our return specialist & a major threat to challenge Hump for #WR?? Bobo has that swagger you want your football team to have!!! I like that dude #85 he’s a FOOTBALL PLAYER!!!!
April 29th, 2018 at 10:10 am
Sounds like this young man has brains and brawn. Tangerine hairball has neither. Go Bucs!!