Thrifty Approach

March 4th, 2018

Fiscally responsible approach.

Active, but not crazy.

That’s how Jenna Laine of ESPN reads the tea leaves when it comes to how the Bucs will tackle free agency, when the free agency dinner bell rings in 10 short days.

Laine believes the Bucs will be players in free agency but as far as big-moneyed, big-name targets? Fuh-getta-bout-it.

The Bucs have the fifth-most cap space in the league this offseason. But they have to prepare for a big long-term contract for wide receiver Mike Evans, and later, quarterback Jameis Winston. Center Ali Marpet looks poised to collect a nice deal too. It would still leave enough to sign a quality pass-rusher, but at the right price. One thing to keep in mind is that big free-agent signings with four-plus-year deals have not boded well for the Bucs in recent years (Michael Johnson, Anthony Collins, Bruce Carter). Whomever they bring in from the outside, they need to vet more carefully.

Joe would like to add one name to that sordid list: Swaggy Baker.

Joe isn’t sure what the market for Carlos Hyde may be and Joe is guessing whatever pass rusher is turned loose, he and his agent will fleece whatever team needs him because it is a seller’s market at defensive end.

That’s why the Robert Quinn non-trade is so frustrating. He wouldn’t have broken the bank and Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager would have had more Team Glazer loot to, say, throw at Andrew Norwell.

If there is any halfway decent defensive end that hits the open market, he and his agent might really take the Bucs to the cleaners.

This reminds Joe of one of his favorite Three Stooges lines.

Golf course desk clerk: Are you gentlemen members of the press?

Curly Howard: I used to be! But I just went through the pockets. Sort of a dry cleaning.

78 Responses to “Thrifty Approach”

  1. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Our Fabulous penny pinching GM……….

    …….we all know you’re saving dough to resign Mr Crab legs crotch grabbing QB……..

    and Mr Head butting….sideline shoving….WR

    We all know this …… you atleast get a pass from me 😉

  2. Bucballbaby84 Says:

    I love Dirk but it’s time for him to get an attitude with these guys and show we are not gonna play around and those motors on those guys had better be going 100 percent at all times. I agreed that there was a lot of poor practices and poor practice habits. It showed most certainly in games. You wanna be great then do what it takes to be great! Everyone knows poor coaching and players drives were what it was that lost a lot of those games last year. We gotta get better in every aspect of every phase.

  3. tmaxcon Says:

    Penny pinching all the way to 4-12 and another year in basement

  4. Not there yet Says:

    If they need extra space don’t go out and try to sign a running back in free agency. That’s for to be the easiest position to evaluate this year. Go get a rookie or two to put with barber and be done with it. Carlos Hyde is no game changer and signing an average guy to a free agent deal is dumb if your looking to save money

    Maybe stop putting Adam Humphries and d Jack in the game to block for your backs. Yea that would also help the run game. Defense it’s time to spend on defense

  5. Joeypoppems Says:

    Active but not crazy is a perfect way to describe it. Going after the mid level “gems” in FA instead of the top guys is Licht’s M.O.

  6. Harry in Costa Rica Says:

    So our primary goal is to save money to sign our stars which also translates into remaining in status quo. Its ok to sign a fat, lazy tree hugger for MILLIONS but not pay more to get one who produces and makes your team better, like Calias Campbell?! That is your idea of making good business decisions?!

    You know, I used to live for Sundays with my team. First, the Oilers when I was in Houston (nothing like Earl running over people), then the Bucs; just could not get enough.

    But I am at the point I have had enough. It is not an overnight process to take the love and passion away from a person. Its been a 10 year process of no playoffs, bad drafts, stupid decisions by people paid millions of dollars (when we as fans can clearly see those in charge are idiots, it demands the decisions be called “stupid”). I am not a fan of a team because I want to cheer high draft picks every year, or the signing of fat, lazy players that are signed as FA.

    Mr Licht, you may not care about loosing me, but I don’t think I am alone. This is my last year of this sh!t

  7. Mike Johnson Says:

    My wife’s a penny pincher. We saved 50 dollars off of last weeks grocery bill. And some of the generic stuff taste like Sh.t !! I’ve made my Bucs my comedy relief now. Nothing surprises me with them. They woun’r get Jeckel..and they won’t get Hyde. They will get what they deserve under this regime. And thats 7-9 at best.
    Guys you can huff and puff all you like, this organization ain’t gettin better no time soon…But you can save on your insurance with……

  8. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    @ Not there yet

    Well then what in the hell do you expect the GM to do then?

    You want him to go full blown daniel snyder every year and pick every player up like it’s a madden game????……and look at how well the Redskins have done over the years??? Marque players don’t mean you’ll have immediate success.


    ……….smart GMs manage their salary cap for the future……not to appease ignorant fans who have clue of what it takes financially to run a NFL team.

  9. teacherman777 Says:

    The Jaguars are not “crazy.”

    They are bold and wise.

    They spent so much money the past 2 years, and they still managed to trade for Marcel Dareus mid-season.

    We realistically could have afforded Marcel Dareus and Dontari Poe.

    We could have had a three man rotation of GMC, Dareus, and Poe.

    I am sorry, but there is not an o-line in the NFL that could withstand those 3 for 4 quarters.

    Or how about this year?

    GMC, Dontari Poe, Vita Vea, and McDonald?

    Sounds good right?

    Ayers and Gholston can also play DT on passing downs.

  10. SteveK Says:

    We are idiots if we expect better results with the same glaring inefficiencies.

    Let’s go Bucs! Be bold! Get out of the NFCS Basement! Lovie and Tedford don’t want to be roomies anymore.

  11. WutdaBucisthis Says:

    Wait…so we’re ignorant cuz Licht shops at the dented can store? C’mon homie. Screw that! Let him manage another team then.

  12. WutdaBucisthis Says:

    Or how about this year?

    GMC, Dontari Poe, Vita Vea, and McDonald?

    Sounds good right?
    I’ll buy that for a dollar!!!

  13. SteveK Says:

    The Bucs Anthem,

    If we finish last in the division again next year, can the “Madden GM fans” have heir beef validated?

    Calais Campbell should’ve received a fat contract from the Bucs. And if he chose not to take it that’s fine. But we should’ve made the best offer period.

    Quinn and Peters for the same picks Licht used to trade up for Aguayo? Sending a 5th round pick to Detroit for Houseplant Johnson? Let’s go dude, take off the blinders and see what fool is running the “Madden” style regime?

    Win games and fans won’t be all over them. Win, win, or be rideiculed.

  14. HFXBUC Says:

    There has to be a problem with Quinn. 1) good DE get traded for a 4th. 2)if he was all that and a bag of chips KC would have landed him in the Peters trade.

  15. pewterpirate99 Says:

    tmaxcon Says:
    March 4th, 2018 at 8:13 am
    Penny pinching all the way to 4-12 and another year in basement

    Exactly brother! The cheapness and incompetence of this team will be the current regime’s downfall, which I’m all for. Last year I had ZERO expectations of this sh!t show of a team doing anything, and once again I have ZERO expectations of this team doing anything. Well I’ll take that back, I FULLY expect this joke of a franchise to continue to make incompetent moves, and to fail. This just shows the complete ineptitude of the entire regime, starting with the CHEAP ASS owners to the imbecilic GM to the clueless coaching staff.

    I am though looking forward to something this season, and that is the end of it when they will have double digit loses again and we will finally have a new regime in here, but then again I’m not sure that’s worth looking forward to either considering the Glazer’s ineptitude of being able to bring in the correct Gm/coaching staff. 4-12– 6-10, that’s the range of the record I believe this team will have. I wish there was a way of getting rid of the Glazers, they’re the root cause of this team’s constant failures over the past ten years.

  16. Buc believer Says:

    Sounds like the way the Glazers started the business… buying low rent trailer parks and then charging people $50 extra for a car $100 extra for a dog etc. Basically nickel and diming the people that could least afford it. Sounds like the Glazer boys learned from the source quite well.

  17. SteveK Says:

    Preach about cheapness of the Glazers!

    The NfL salary cap floor was implemented bc of their cheap ass ways!

    The most insulting part about it all is that they have no problem spending boatloads of cash on Manchester United!

    Why can’t the Bucs get the same?

    They are nerds/business people, and their actions show they don’t give a damn about getting another Lombardi in their trophy case. This kind of roster neglect is what leads to crap attendance and a lackluster team!

    Spend, try, spend, try! Owners of a professional sports team should be in it for the legacy not the paycheck. The paycheck takes care of itself when you put together a competitive and entertaining product. See: Lightning and Jeff Vinik. They did gets it. I hope he buys the Rays and the Bucs, lord knows those teams need ownership to step up!!!!!

  18. Clw JB Says:

    We should invest wisely, we need 5 starters on D, at least 1 G on O and a RB

    2 cb DE DT SS – name the the people on the curren roster for these spots .old, injury prone, or just plain bad

    And 4-6 other depth spots all with near starter level talent – rb, secondary gaurd/ center

    He Can get 4 from the draft as he has proven twice

    But, he has never shown the ability to land more than 2 decent FA in any
    Off season really

    Seems like we need better evaluation in their pro personnel department for sure…how do you miss so many times when everyone around here could see who we needed last year

    Just think of CC instead of FatBaker and Cook instead of Doug toting the rock….

    Wake up Jason !!!!!!!

  19. BetterBuccinBelieveIt Says:

    This, again, supports THIS Bucs fan’s continuing wide theme that the Bus will trade up for Saying!

    Talk about saving money, what better way than young draft picks with 5th year options, and individually can represent multiple FA off-season signings.

    Go Bucs! Go Barkley! Go Big! Go Primetime!

  20. SteveK Says:

    Fans won’t jump to negative conclusons when they see improvising, transparency, and results.

    My comments are not to cause a stir, but rather to vent about he lack of results and the attempt to understand “why”. My apologies for being negative.

    It’s especially hard being a Bucs/Rays fan these days. Between obvious tanking in baseball and lack of improvising in football, times are tough. God bless the Lightning and their efforts. They really care, improvise, and spend money. They see a return on their investment too, imagine that?

  21. Clw JB Says:

    Btw if you cut Doug and draft Cook – you had 6.75 more lying around for CC

  22. SteveK Says:

    BetterBuccinBelieveIt Says:
    March 4th, 2018 at 9:02 am
    This, again, supports THIS Bucs fan’s continuing wide theme that the Bus will trade up for Saying!

    Talk about saving money, what better way than young draft picks with 5th year options, and individually can represent multiple FA off-season signings.

    Go Bucs! Go Barkley! Go Big! Go Primetime!


    If Licht gets Barkely, I’ll be over the moon. With that said, I doubt he moves up to #1 to take him. Hahahaha it would be awesome though.

    I agree with Joe’s sentiment, Barkley could play two ways and have more sacks than Will Gholston next year. Hahahahaha sad state of edge rushing in Tampa.

  23. SteveK Says:


    What about drafting Kareem Hunt in the second last year, cutting Doig, and signing CC?

    The only reason CC should not be a Buc right now is bc he turned down the highest offer (ours) to play somewhere else. That’s it. Not because we sat out thinking our status woe was acceptable.

  24. tmaxcon Says:


    This team is the reason the NFL has a MINIMUM SALARY CAP….the last thing these incompetent owners need to worry about is salary cap. they always are well below cap and the product is well below respectable….. losing should be the biggest FEAR not salary cap

  25. tbaybuxfan Says:

    why not offer Dolphins something for him? maybe we can make it worth it to them to trade him to us???

  26. tmaxcon Says:

    You can’t put all the free agent blame on licht glazers have rendered Tampa bay buccaneers the least desirable location in nfl. Must overpay or continue the current streak in the basement

  27. SteveK Says:

    Preach Tmaxcon!

    The NFL Salary Cap floor was put into play bc of the Glazers not fiscally trying hard enough to compete. Truth!

    And the even bigger insult is their willingness to spend on Manchester United.

    Conflict of interest me thinks, based on their “trying” efforts.

  28. First Down Tampa Bay Says:

    The same people complaining about not dishing out big money to average players will be the same ones complaining about how bad the players are after they come here and bust. Not to mention, they will complain when a cornerstone piece of our franchise has to be a cap casualty and then will go on to complain how bad of GM Licht is.

    See The Licht people

  29. tmaxcon Says:


    Bucs have not beern a priority for glazers in 14 years…. anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional…. you can’t be this bad for this ling if ownership gave 2 s**ts

  30. SteveK Says:

    First Down Tampa Bay Says:
    March 4th, 2018 at 9:22 am
    The same people complaining about not dishing out big money to average players will be the same ones complaining about how bad the players are after they come here and bust. Not to mention, they will complain when a cornerstone piece of our franchise has to be a cap casualty and then will go on to complain how bad of GM Licht is.

    See The Licht people


    No sir, just pissed that we retained Doug Maritin, resigned Will Gholston, and brought in Swaggy Baker for the same price it would’ve costed to sign Calais Campbell.

    Can you agree that those three should’ve not been part of the team last year in favor for Calais Campbell?

    But, by keeping those three or “justified” not making an offer to Campbell?

  31. tmaxcon Says:

    First Down Tampa Bay

    This mickey mouse franchise Has not had a player worthy of being a cap casualty since Sapp was shown door…. you worrying about cap is simply asinine given the piss poor level of talent on roster

    FEAR losing not the Cap

  32. tmaxcon Says:

    This roster had less than 6 keepers so I’m sure even the incompetent glazers can figure it out.

    You fools worrying about cap are clueless the bucs are not the 90s cowboys very very little talent outside of godwin, marpet, Winston, kwon and beckwith the rest is utter garbage and has beens that never were

  33. tmaxcon Says:

    Most likely at least one above will get hurt before pay day

  34. SteveK Says:

    Exactly Tmaxcon!

    Scared of greatness. Gotta spend big on big time players. Worrying about future extensions is a great way to
    Go 5-11.

  35. tmaxcon Says:

    The owners clearly have no desire or intentions to field a respectable team. Simple as that. Words and gestures are meaningless actions and results are proof they are not even trying. the nfl is just tv revenue for the soccer punks. NFL loves glazers no one welcomes visiting fans like the clueless glazers

  36. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    You know…….you have to be wondering what is going on in the Glazers head every year when the team puts up their sorry arse record?????

    I think this franchise personally went south not because they let Gruden go because it’s not like he was amassing amazing wins at 50% win to loss ratio

    I THINK this franchise screwed up when they let Rich McKay go…….and all you have to do is look at how well the falcons have done over the years.

  37. Buccaneer scotty Says:

    Sell the team along with the Rays !

  38. JonBuc Says:

    (Deep sigh)….just listened to Mike Vrabel on XM radio…made me think @ “The Tale of Two “T” Teams…Tampa & Tennesee. Tampa has Licht’s Out and Killing Me Softly Koetter, Titans have Jon Robinson ( who is the biggest fish to get away since Michael Bennett ) and Mike Vrabel. Who would you rather have steering the pirate ship? The Tampa Two will provide more comedy than Laurel & Hardy in 2018…their final farewell.

  39. Tony from Los Angeles Says:

    Stop defending, Licht.

    The Licht defenders just are t realizing how rare it is to acquire a multiple Lro Blwl player aged 27 or younger for much less than a first round pick.


    Both big areas of need for the Bucs.
    There’s only one left…

    Make it happen, Licht – or cement your status as an inept GM based on your record and results.


  40. BetterBuccinBelieveIt Says:

    Oh the loyal Bucs faithful and their maniaachal behavior. Consider these Buc fans:

    1. Just because Jeremy Fowler “thinks” Quinn is fully healthy doesn’t mean he is. Jeremy doesn’t even work out West for ESPN, where local beat writers for Rams would be able to talk to team physician “sources” to have the real smack in Quinn.

    2. What if Licht, having worked in multiple NFL front offices before Bucs including Arizona, has built medical personnel or team physician Contacts through the years like all GM’ s have and use that are not their teams’ sources. If those contacts knew better and felt that the back injury was likely a bigger concern, then there you go.

    3. Lastly…and MOST of all…Licht isn’t trading a 3rd round pick at #7 overall?!?! Not even swapping 3rd’s with another team! Think about that ammunition folks! That’s 8 slots away from a 2nd rounder!?!

    Light is using 1-3 rounders definitely in 2018, possibly parts of those also in 2019, to TRADE UP.

    Barkley…Saquon that is, KEEPS Jason’s job, whether all the Buc faithful, like it, believes it, or not. Saquon’ s impact itself on Bucs 2018 season is worth 4 wins minimum. It is, don’t care what you all will speculate on that number.

    Go Bucs!!

  41. JonBuc Says:


    I’m all for Barkley. Throw in a 2nd rounder for a trade up as the Bucs have botched many o’ 2nd rounders in the past decade. A stud back would change everything for this team. He would make Winston better and would keep the wobbly defense off the field longer.

  42. BetterBuccinBelieveIt Says:


    Amen! Exactly! A thoughtful approach to where and when the Bucs need to get the biggest bang for their Buc in the draft and the picks, is refreshing!

  43. nick2 Says:

    No coincidence the Bucs consistenty hire head coaches and gm`s with zero experience in the role and we miss the playoffs every year. And why are the rookie gm’s thrifty? Marching orders! If Licht could hit it big with 1 FA he might get more free reign but right now he’s showing the Glaser boys how cheap he can get by. It saddens me to see Jenna making excuses for GM’s who are told to keep payroll low for no good reason!

  44. Ndog Says:

    I just cannot believe this with what is on the li e. She may be right but like usual with her I doubt it. BTW, not being a jerk but honest, how does she keep her job? Her questions are always horrible and pointless. In addition she makes bold claims like the Bucs are going to cut Doug Martin. Again I know Joe likes her but dang she is not very good at her job.

  45. Wausa Says:

    I’ve said it before, but the Bucs have to be aggressive in free agency or this team will stink again.

    You can not fill all the holes on this team in the draft.

    The Bucs need
    3 new starters on the DL
    1 new starter at RB
    1 new starter at OG
    1 new starter at safety
    2 new starters at CB

    Not to mention the Bucs need depth at corner, offensive tackle, running back and even outside linebacker.

    If Licht is ‘thrifty” then he and the whole coaching staff will be fired after this year.

  46. Destinjohnny Says:


  47. Eric Says:

    im waiting until the final roster before jumping off the bridge.

    I hope it has a good running back on it and a five sack defensive end.

  48. Onetrickpony Says:

    Thrifty or just plain cheap ?

  49. Eric Says:

    The Rams were obviously concerned that Quinn might provide the last piece of the puzzle for a bucs dynasty.

    Bucs fans are so cute.

  50. Joseph Mamma Says:

    So we’re going to roll with the castoff Falcon coaches and not sign any top tier free agents because our core superstar players need to be paid soon. That is the strategy the Buc’s braintrust is going with? Got to hand it to the Glazer’s though, I mean with the way the NFL franchises split up the revenue, they make money even though their product is hot garbage and they really can’t be held accountable for their lack of results or overall indifference to football in general.

  51. tmaxcon Says:


    rich mckay is not a talent evaluate nor has he had ANYTHING to do with the Falcons rosters since his second year in ATL… blanks stripped mckay of personnel power very, very quickly because he is horrendous…. Plus the falcons are the pure definition of dungy’s pretenders they get there then choke. Please stop making stuff up… McKay and Dungy the clown could not field even a high school level offense and it took gruden to clean up the mckay dungy mess…. mckay is equally responsible for letting the one dimensional loser Dungy waste Whyche’s hall of famers. you can’t keep rewrite the failed dungy mackay era because you like those bums. The legend of dungy and mckay far exceeds their actual accomplishments… similar to a fish story each year the BS gets thicker and thicker.

  52. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Jenna Laine is a nice, classy lady.

    That said…you all do realize she is guessing, right? So stop blaming Licht and Koetter for something that may not even be true.

    Jenna Laine is deducing this from what she can see of the team’s upcoming needs to re-sign players, and the Bucs previous actions over the years. She has no source to back it up, because she is guessing.

    So no…this is not ammo for the trolls.

  53. tmaxcon Says:

    Laine is a better homes and gardens reporter covering football.

  54. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    My opinion for Running back is this: Sign Blount.

    He’s never made more than $3m per year, and so he’ll come cheap. Then draft a RB in the third or so. Blount will get the tough yardage, which is all I care about (third down and goal line scores). Everything else will come.

  55. tmaxcon Says:


    bucs do not need cheap they need talent… you fools need to fear losing more than a salary cap… this no talent roster has 6 keepers max the rest are career losers and has beens that never were.

  56. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Oh…after browsing the comments, I see now. This thread is the official troll convention, not intended for real fans. I’m out.

  57. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    tmaxcon Says
    “bucs do not need cheap they need talent…”

    Guess what? Everywhere Blount goes, a Superbowl championship follows and he makes a huge difference. I call that talent.

  58. tmaxcon Says:


    so real fans are the one who make excuses non stop… real fans tolerate losing and dignifying embarrassing performances…. yeah that’s right you are real fan of losers period. people with standards are trolls… you are just like that POS cancer93 just lose quietly and be happy about it.

  59. Frank Pillow Says:

    This is friendly media drivel to serve as top cover for Licht’s lack of vision and inability to close a FA deal that benefits this team in a meaningful way. The GM and HC should be on the hot seat and under an intense microscope. They deserve fair criticism for their failures and yes, credit where it’s due…but don’t give me this soft nonsense about not being bold and aggressive heading into FA! This team has a Swiss cheese roster and it’s their job to bring the best players here to win and win now. We haven’t played a meaningful game in a decade for crying out loud- how can Licht not attack FA hard!?!?!

  60. Roadwarrior Says:

    Harry Costa Rica.
    I’m with you Harry and I think a lot of the fans are too.
    I’m fineding as I’m getting older Sunday football games or just a waste of my time. It’s not the same game I used to watch as a kid. I remember when I couldn’t wait until Sunday’s games, not so much anymore. Especially watching the bucs. Especially watching the bucs they seem to just suck the life right out of you. It’s getting easier and easier to find other things to do on Sunday. I hope someday they can bring back passion to Tampa Bay and the way the fans used to feel.

  61. First Down Tampa Bay Says:


    You say we need “talent” (which is 100% true) but are we ready to let the only talent worth keeping on this team leave? Sure, we can go ahead and overpay average players, but what are we gonna tell Kwon Alexander when we can’t afford his extension?

  62. Howard Cosell Says:

    Bucs have been “thrifty”since 2003.

    Here’s some synonyms for “thrifty” from

    Howard called this out decades ago. Glad everyone is catching on now.
    That’s why Howard respects Gruden and R Morris for being able to keep the team competitive given the financial constraints.

  63. tmaxcon Says:

    First Down Tampa Bay

    there is plenty of money for an average linebacker like kwon. kwon like lvd have been very very inconsistent and neither deserve star money.

    let me ask you how can the pittsburh steelers be in cap hell for 10 years yet win 2 super bowls. quality organizations which bucs will never be confused as one can manage talent, personalities and cap the bucs can’t manage their way out of the nfc south basement so to be 100% honest none of these so called stars you mentioned have earned a damn thing yet.

    bucs can’t manage a winning season or stringing together a few games without s**ting all over themselves so let’s build a quality roster first then worry about paying players that have been in the basement their entire careers


  64. tmaxcon Says:

    First Down Tampa Bay

    kwon is far more popular than he is great. HUGE difference between popular and greatness bucs have not had greatness since sapp walked out the door.

  65. Gambelero Says:

    Licht may be responsible for not getting Quinn or Bennett, but it’s crazy to blame him for the consistent miserliness. If I were one of the key young cogs, Winston, Evans, Alexander, Marpet, I’d be looking to get out of Tampa as soon as possible. After the next CBA, the franchise tag in its current form will be gone.

  66. donuts Says:

    I like Jenna and she has good takes. I think Jenna was asked to say this by the Bucs PR dept/Licht. Probably thru the digital media team. This does not make sense considering the cap will again rise next year and give the Bucs more cap space to manage these second contract issues.

    IF #3 is suspended, he will pay the price contractually. It’s a big IF…but the silence and timing (before draft we will know) is making me think it may be negative news. If it was positive, they would have already announced the outcome IMHO.

  67. NFLNut Says:


    Word is that Cousins favors the VIKINGS … if he signs with them the Broncos will be drafting QB which could push down a great non-QB to #7 … but I still have us TRADING DOWN and making out like bandits!!!!!!!

    1. Browns: Saquon Barkley
    2. Browns (trade up w/ Giants): Josh Allen
    3. Colts: Bradley Chubb
    4. Giants: Quenton Nelson
    5. Broncos: Sam Darnold
    6. Jets: Baker Mayfield
    7. Bills (trade up with BUCS): Josh Rosen
    8. Bears: Denzel Ward
    9. 49’ers: Minkah Fitzpatrick
    10. Raiders: RoQuan Smith
    11. Dolphins: Joshua Jackson
    12. Bengals: Mike McGlinchey
    13. Redskins: Derwin James
    14. Packers: Tremaine Edwards
    15. Cardinals: Mason Rudolph
    16. Cowboys: Calvin Ridley
    17. Seahawks: Billy Price
    18. Ravens: Orlando Brown
    19. Chargers: Da’Ron Payne
    20. Lions: Carlton Davis
    21. BUCS: Viti Vea or Marcus Davenport or Arden Key
    22: BUCS: Viti Vea or Marcus Davenport or Arden Key


  68. LakeLand Says:

    I have been saying this all awhile.

    The Bucs will not commit long term deals to these top free agents.
    They will save money to lock up ME, Kwon, Ali, Donovan, Jameis next season.
    The top free agents are looking for long term security

  69. The Anomaly Says:

    This same idiot brought back drug martin.

  70. BetterBuccinBelieveIt Says:


    Albeit a very difficult task for anyone….c’mon, there’s no way the 1st round goes down like that, for a ton of reasons. Yes, guessing the order would be difficult for anyone. No point in going through each one. You gave it a shot.

    Elway loves Rosen and all local Denver media has reported that.

    No way Bucs take a 230 pus*y lightweight at 21/22 that is yet another off-field cancer in Key. Davenport is a project, not 1st round at all, at least for Bucs. Orlando Brown was just reported to have fallen to 3rd-4th round by some analysts due to 14 bench press reps, basically a 6.0 40 time, plus flunking interviews. WAYYY to high on Rudolph, maybe to Pats. Let’s put it this way…

    I think you might have #3 correct, Nelson correct with Giants but not at #4, #6 right with Mayfield to Jets, Ridley is definitely going to the Bears maybe not #8 but to the Bears, Roquan Smith to Raiders at #10, #13 James, #14 Edwards, Da’Ron Payne either 18 or 19 to either team.

    Like I said, a tough task for anyone.

    Go Bucs!

  71. NFLNut Says:

    ^ I disagree with most of what you said above.

    If the Bucs get #21 and #22 and Vea, Davenport and Key are all on the board I’m quite confident they would take their favorite two of those three.

    Also, saying Ridley is “definitely” going to the Bears seems quite strange to me …

  72. GrudenForPresident Says:

    Is Licht fired yet?!?!

  73. BetterBuccinBelieveIt Says:


    Of course you disagree with what I said…because you wrote the original above.

    Roll with what you want killer. 🙂

    Opinions are there for whomever. See ALL prior comments, threads, in the past week, for example.

    Sense and sensibility will play out in the draft. No problem.

    “Agreeing” isn’t part of intelligence, it’s simply a part of acceptance. Any two people on this FORUM…are entitled to disagree. And entitled to their own opinions.

    Go Bucs!

  74. BetterBuccinBelieveIt Says:


    Re-reading my last piece, in the last paragraph, it may have been written hastily, due to the chaotic family and things here during around me.

    Simply put, what was meant to be said originally, that “agreeing” or not with anything that I composed in rebuttal was merely a choice of acceptance or not. Certainly the cognitive choice of “agreeing” with the points I laid out was certainly more a product of football intelligence, and toward the wiser good (for the Bucs), not merely defiance for the sake of thinking your original take was something…for something’s sake.

    Either way, no problem. Seen plenty of other people’s replies to your prior posts. Ain’t no big deal. Everyone has a forum here.

    Go Bucs!

  75. Duke Says:


    Thank you for putting the kibash on the bassackward Rich McKay asz parade.
    Never has someone done so little to deserve so much praise. Second thought, the Kardashian clan is the top contender for that claim.
    It took a season before Arthur Blank realized He’d been fooled. Bucs fans, still stupid still don’t know who the GM for ATL is …..But still love Mike Alstott and wear that Jersey that is a Christmas gift from 1999 with pride.

  76. Nick2 Says:

    Bonzai your out because your a shill for the Glazer boys. Shes just reporting what everyone is seeing. Good players we need going to other teams but we were “in the running”. We were “in the running” for Gruden. We were “in the running” for Quinn. We were “in the running” for Parcells. When do the Bucs get tired of being satisfied with being “in the running”???? That just means you made an attempt. It could be an insulting attempt. It could be cheap attempt. But still you are “in the running” Well if we keep this up I can tell Jason GM one thing you wont be “in the running” for the playoffs that’s for sure. The others that say we have more holes than the draft can fix are spot on. Koetter and Licht consistently over estimate the talent on this team. They did it with Doug Martin and it will happen until they wake up.

  77. Rod Munch Says:

    Quinn, 2 years on his contract and Talib, 2 years on his contract, would have made perfect sense since Winston will be getting his money in 2 years and to have those contracts coming off the cap right when Winston got paid, would mean the Bucs would still have room to get everything done. What the Bucs can’t really do is spend a lot on a lot of people and give them long term deals with lots of guaranteed money.

    However for Licht none of this is going to matter if the team doesn’t make a big turnaround this season since him and Dirk will be fired – which is why not getting Quinn is really dumb. Even if the Bucs somehow ended up with Chubb, you have no idea if he’s going to be any good or not (well you have some idea, but you don’t know for sure) and most rookies on the d-line are non-factors.

    Very very poor decision by Licht not to get this done.

  78. Nick2 Says:

    Davenport came with high credentials, has the 6’6 260 lb frame speed (ran a 4.58 40 faster than some RB’s), got a sack at the Senior Bowl stood out at those practices and then torched the combine. I say take him or Chubb if we are going DE I would be happy we take him over Chubb .