Free Agency Countdown: 18 Days — The Rich Will Get Richardson
February 24th, 2018
Are the Bucs serious about the trenches?
As Joe noted this week, no NFC team has more cash under the 2018 salary cap than your Buccaneers.
They are the beasts of the ball, when the free agency dinner bell rings in 18 short days.
Just go to the beach now if you’re in the camp of fans who believes the Bucs need to relax and save a bunch of money to re-sign Kwon Alexander, Mike Evans, Jameis Winston, Ali Marpet and Donovan Smith in the next two years, so that means they have to lay low in free agency. Get outta here!
There will be cap room to pay those guys, plus it’s a big if whether the Bucs will really desire to keep all of them, assuming the group stays healthy.
The time for the Bucs in free agency is now, just like it was last year when manbeast defensive end Calais Campbell was roaming the streets and the Bucs watched the Jaguars go big-game hunting.
More and more chatter out of Seattle says ferocious and versatile nose tackle Sheldon Richardson will hit the free agent market. Seattle is cash-challenged with other key players to re-sign, which is what happens when you’re a perennial-power team.
Richardson, 27, can do it all. The Jets’ first-round pick in 2013 (wasn’t that the Bucs’ pick traded for Darrelle Revis?), Richardson was traded to Seattle on September 1 as part of the Jets’ big purge of veterans.
Assuming Richardson hits the market, that would be classified as one of the rare times a young, durable defensive tackle with elite talent becomes available. He’s missed just seven games through five seasons.
If the Bucs are committed to getting nastier, better and tougher up the gut in a hurry next season, and if they believe deeply in new defensive line coach Brentson Buckner, then opening the vault for Richardson could be a home run play. Tt sure would give them options to play a lot more 3-4 defense in a hurry. Unpredictable is good.
History says it’s hard to go wrong with superior talent up the gut of your defense. And Gerald McCoy and Richardson would represent just that.
Signing Richardson, a veteran cornerback and drafting a couple of defensive ends would let a lot of Bucs fans sleep easier this summer, Joe included.
February 24th, 2018 at 12:41 pm
That would be awesome!
Signing Richardson would also allow the Bucs to draft the stud linebacker out of Georgia. Duffner is one of the guys on the staff who has proven he can work with youngsters. It may dangerous to think this way but if can make fourth round talent shine, he may just turn a first round stud into a superstar.
February 24th, 2018 at 12:47 pm
Agree. Spend some money, lots actually. They need 3 DEs 2 DTs 2 corners 2 RBs and 2 offensive linemen. 4 or 5 or gona have to be free agents, or trades. Lets go licht beef em up. Let them battle it out for playing time and then rotate them, not the Olinemen tho dirk. Give big buck some big bodies.
February 24th, 2018 at 12:52 pm
Him and the center from wherever…maybe it’s Baltimore…but he’s the to FA center
February 24th, 2018 at 12:58 pm
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Approximately $87.5mil in 2018 cap space
Cost of Draft Picks = Approx. $8.5mil
Cost of Re-Signed Players = $36.0mil
Brent Grimes – gone
Evan Smith – $3mil
Charles Sims – $1.5mil
Kevin Pamphile – $3.5mil
T. J Ward – gone
Javien Elliott – $1mil
Patrick Murray – $1mil
Clinton McDonald – $3mil
Cam Brate – $6.8mil (5 year $40mil extension + remaining cheap year)
Adarius Glanton – $1mil
Adam Humphries – $2.7mil (5 year $15mil extension + remaining cheap yr)
Ryan Russell – $1mil
Garrison Sanborn – $1mil
Will Clarke – gone
Sealver Siliga – gone
Robert McClain – $1mil
Keith Tandy – $1.5mil
Ryan Fitzpatrick – $8mil
Peyton Barber – let play under current contract
Cap Space Left =$43.0mil
2019 FA’s early extensions = $23.9mil
Marpet – $7.7mil (5 year $45mil extension + cheap remaining year)
Smith – $8.5mil (5 year $50mil extension + cheap remaining year)
Kwon – $7.7mil (5 year $45mil extension + cheap remaining year)
NEEDS: (2) DEs, (2) DT, (1) RB, (2) CBs, (1) SS
ACTUAL CAP SPACE LEFT TO SPEND ON NEW FREE AGENTS = $19.1mil
SIGN: Malcolm Butler, Carlos Hyde and Star Lotulelei for up to $19.1mil
REMAINING NEEDS: (2) DEs, (2) CBs and (1) SS
DRAFT PICKS:
1st: Minkah Fitpatrick CB … I think Saquon/Chubb/Nelson all gone by #7
2nd: Ronnie Harrison SS
3rd: Derrick Nnandi DT
4th: Josh Sweat DE
5th: Chad Thomas DE
6th: Best OG available
6th: Best OT available
7th: DJ Reed RS/CB
DONE!
2018′ FINAL 53
QB: Jameis/Fitz
RB: Hyde/Barber/Simms/Quizz
TE/FB: OJ/Brate/Auclair
WR: Evans/Jackson/Godwin/Hump/Bobo/Martino
LT: Donovan/Wester
LG: Pamphile/Evan
C: Marpet/Hawley
RG: Sweezy/Evan
RT: Dotson/Bennenoch
DE: Spence/Ayers/Sweat/Thomas/Gholston/Russell
DT: GMC/Lotulelei/Nnandi/McDonald
OLB: LaVonte/Beckwith/Glanton/Bond
MLB: Kwon/Bulloch
CB: Butler/Minkah/Hargreaves/Smith/McClain/Elliott
FS: Evans/Conte
SS: Harrison/Tandy
LS: Sanborn
K: Murray … or Santos or Janikowski
P: Angerer
THE ABOVE TEAM still has the exact same O-Line though it has better RB’s … it has better DBs and far better DTs and two new rookie DEs though they are 4th and 5th rounders … I’m not sure Licht will be able to do any better than the above IF HE EXTENDS Ali/Kwon/Donovan/Hump/Brate this year rather than waiting …
YOUR THOUGHTS?????????????
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February 24th, 2018 at 1:01 pm
What is the fascination with this 3/4 defense. We can’t even play the 4/3Right. Let’s just stick to one or the other and see if we can just master that.
February 24th, 2018 at 1:02 pm
I’m COMPLETELY on board with a Richardson signing! How much more would he command than the toilet-flush we gave to Fatboy Swaggy? I want 1 or 2 veteran CB’s! I know there might be slim-pickings but, DE should especially be addressed in FA, since they typically take longer to develop. Get some from the draft too! Sign what you need; draft BPA!
February 24th, 2018 at 1:03 pm
Not a bad choice no, but IMO I prefer Geno Atkins in Cincy for a 4th/5th round pick. They are in the process of extending him, he has been far more ferocious and dominating and downright unblockable at times in recent years. Pure Buckner line mold. Plus, at age 29 vs. 27 for Richardson he will likely come much cheaper, can’t really recall Richardson affecting games like Geno has.
Plus for DE I think Vinny Curry could be had from Philly quite nicely for a reasonable pick/player. Good production, good age, and they are in cap hell to say the least, plus have a few players to re-sign like their other DE Graham.
We need to unload LVD and GMC salaries (versus production), hopefully as draft capital. Everyone needs to calm down about signing our own players, all that will be fine and staggered out over time.
February 24th, 2018 at 1:09 pm
Interesting dilemma Joe. Assuming Richardson does escape Seattle, Spotrac is estimating his Market Value to be around $12 mil per year for a 4-5 year contract. Not saying by any means that I’m opposed to paying that for another DT to pair with GMC, but that ties up a LOT of cash in our interior DLine. Especially when 2 mountains like Vea & Payne are available in the draft for just a small fraction of that.
February 24th, 2018 at 1:10 pm
Talk show host Dominik Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 24th, 2018 at 1:17 pm
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If Licht does NOT extend Kwon/Ali/Donovan/Brate/Hump instread of the projected $19.1mil he’ll have to spend, he will have approximately $51.6mil … and could even add another $8.75mil if he cuts Sweezy and doesn’t re-sign Pamphile, which would give him $60.35mil to spend … that is a ton of cash and if he were to go wild and spend it all, he could sign:
Malcolm Butler: $11-12mil
Ryan Jensen: $9-10mil
Andrew Norwell: $10-11mil
Kony Ealy: $8-9mil
Alex Okafor: $8-9mil
Eric Reid: $8-9mil
Then he could draft (1) CB, (2) DTs, (1) RB and use the last 4 picks on BPA picks, and as Licht has 8 picks to play with, he could use his 1st rounder, trade the 3rd with the 2nd to move back into the late 1st, trade the 4th and 5th to move back into the 3rd and trade the two 6ths and the 7th to move back into the high 5th, so he’s have the #7, a pick in the late 20s, a 3rd and a 5th.
1st: Minkah Fitzpatrick or Joshua Jackson or Denzel Ward, CB
1st: Derrius Guice or Sony Michel or Ronald Jones III, RB
3rd: Derrick Nnandi or Harrison Philips, DT
5th: Kendrick Norton, DT
2018′ FINAL 53
QB: Jameis/Fitz
RB: GUICE/Barber/Simms/Quizz
TE/FB: OJ/Brate/Auclair
WR: Evans/Jackson/Godwin/Hump/Bobo/Martino
LT: Donovan/Wester
LG: NORWELL/Evan
C: JENSEN/Hawley
RG: Marpet/Evan
RT: Dotson/Bennenoch
DE: EALY/OKAFOR/Spence/Ayers/Gholston/Russell
DT: GMC/NNANDI/McDonald/NORTON
OLB: LaVonte/Beckwith/Glanton/Bond
MLB: Kwon/Bulloch
CB: BUTLER/MINKAH/Hargreaves/Smith/McClain/Elliott
FS: Evans/Conte
SS: REID/Tandy
LS: Sanborn
K: Murray … or Santos or Janikowski
P: Angerer
THIS TEAM COULD BE DOMINANT IN 2018 … BUT WOULD ALSO RISK LOSING KWON/ALI/BRATE/HUMP/DONOVAN IN 2019 … WILL LICHT TAKE THE RISK TO SAVE HIS JOB?
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February 24th, 2018 at 1:23 pm
That indeed was the pick traded away for Revis’ rehab stint. Admittedly, that first round (2013) has to be one of if not the worst 1st round draft class in NFL history.
February 24th, 2018 at 1:25 pm
$80 million is not that much , when you have only 34 players counting against the cap. You have to fill 19 positions with that $80 million. They can spend the $80 millions any way they like.
The bottom line
19 players has to be signed
February 24th, 2018 at 1:32 pm
It don’t matter if the players are Bucs players or new players. They still have to fill the roster with 19 players.
February 24th, 2018 at 1:37 pm
JOE,
This guy should be a priority in FA… or at least someone who plays his same position.
-Concerned Bucs fan
February 24th, 2018 at 2:02 pm
Nfl nut
Seriously worried about you. Those posts look like they took all day to complete
February 24th, 2018 at 2:09 pm
They won’t invest that kind of money on 2 defensive tackles. That’s like 35 mil for him and McCoy.
I m down for the center from ravens Jensen. Or Sitton guard from Green Bay / Chicago. That’s all they should do for offense. Just one guy.
Then get defensive end and db free agent. Maybe Michael Bennett.
And in draft , get a stud running back (Michel) and then go defense with every other pick. Vita vea in 1st? Defense end x 2 , db and safety.
February 24th, 2018 at 2:12 pm
Bird, the first one took me about 15 mins … the second one about 5 as I copied and pasted from the first … I type extremely fast and think even faster … having a 151 IQ is both a blessing and a curse I guess 🙂
February 24th, 2018 at 2:13 pm
153 not 151 … typo
February 24th, 2018 at 2:15 pm
Anyways, free agency has always interested me, more so the NBA than the NFL, but now I’m more into the NFL than the NBA, so …
I think a lot of fans literally have no clue what cap space means and why some teams who have more cap space than others can actually spend far less on “new” players.
It’s fun to play with the numbers and the roster and I imagine Jason Licht has about 1,000 different versions of what I typed out above … he has a tough job ahead of him this offseason but if he can hit 2 home runs in free agency and draft well, the team should be back to it’s 2016 level imho.
February 24th, 2018 at 2:19 pm
NFLNut … “THIS TEAM COULD BE DOMINANT IN 2018.” OK Nut, I’m also worried about you now. ‘THIS TEAM’ (Bucs) and ‘DOMINANT’ in caps in the same sentence? WOW!!!
Oh and BTW, Okafor played in 10 games with 4.5 sacks & 27 tackles. Ealy played in 15 games with just 1 sack & 14 tackles. How is that type of performance worth $8-9 mil per year? Neither one have much appeal. Doubt that Ansah hits the market, but he (and don’t laugh, possibly Clayborn) would be about the only DE that could REALLY help us in FA I think (he’ll be looking for $13-14 mil however). I suspect our better bet for DE help this year will be in the draft.
February 24th, 2018 at 2:22 pm
NFLNut
Next season Jameis will be on the books for at least $21 million. That’s his 5th year option salary.
February 24th, 2018 at 2:23 pm
worrying about the cap is fruitless steelers have been in cap hell for a decade and managed 2 superbowls. the salary cap is similar to obama printing money at will it can be manipulated. this team needs to worry about talent not cap. good organizations can manage both the salary cap and the personalities of driven winners under current ownership the bucs have proven for over a decade that they can’t manage either.
February 24th, 2018 at 2:26 pm
^ THAT TEAM I listed would have the best O-Line in the NFL and a top 5 corps of DBS with an improved D-Line and running game … it could indeed be dominant as “on paper” there are very, very few teams that would be better.
BTW, I believe both Ealy and Okafor will make more on the open market than Adrian Clayborn … Ziggy is awesome but I’m thinking the Lions lock him up.
SACKS are nice for stats but they’re not everything and they don’t determine a players worth … people are going crazy for Sheldon Richardson and he hardly ever sacks the QB … it’s like TDs for WRs, gimme a WR that can haul in 100 passes for 1,300 yards and 5TDs over a guy with 60 catches 700 yards and 10 TDs anyday
February 24th, 2018 at 2:33 pm
Nice Breakdown NFLNut. But I’d definitely hold off on the CB and SS as 1st and 2nd rd picks. Remember, Koeteer has to win Now. or his job is gone. We can wait on the backend for now. But you cannot wait up front Defensively and in the trenches. That is if you are trying to win this year. I would seek out a trade partner like maybe AZ in our slot and try to pick up that extra pick. But a lot of your stuff is pretty good.
February 24th, 2018 at 2:36 pm
Draft Vita Vea. Dude is a stone wall in the run game and will provide constant push on passing downs, even if he’s not the guy making the sack.
February 24th, 2018 at 2:41 pm
We need him and also keep McDonald cuz Mr Potato chip a/k/a cancer93 will get injured and miss plenty of games.
February 24th, 2018 at 2:42 pm
When I say next season Jameis will be on the books for at least $21 million. I mean in 2019 not 2018.
February 24th, 2018 at 3:05 pm
Bucs365,
What is the difference between the NFL and PAC 12?
If the projection of Vea is based on his skill set and measurables He’s a great pick.
The question I have for you is, why would you think He will be a guy who plays flat out every snap? Are you comfortable with a single play He takes off? What about 5 per game? An entire game?
February 24th, 2018 at 3:18 pm
Bravo @ Title
Well done sir! 👏👏👏
February 24th, 2018 at 3:28 pm
Get all the players you want, but until the db’s move up, everyone is wide open and nobody will get home with the qb having multiple options to get rid of it as her feels the rush coming.
Teams have been game planning the Bucs for this for years. Why do you think it’s so easy for them to drive in the 4th nearly every time to win the game. The smoke us for the first two quarters, then they play coy for the 3rd and half of the fourth, we think they have gotten worn out and that the defense have figured out the offense enough to stop them, then BAM!!!! They mysteriously smoke us late in the 4th for a game winning touch down.
It’s the scheme, has been for YEARS!!!!! Same game plan beating us for a decade.
February 24th, 2018 at 3:38 pm
@Pelbuc … “We need him and also keep McDonald cuz Mr Potato chip a/k/a cancer93 will get injured and miss plenty of games.” Interesting conclusion Pelbuc. According to Joe, “Richardson, 27, can do it all … a young, durable defensive tackle with elite talent … He’s missed just seven games through five seasons.”
Hmmm, “durable’ because he’s missed just 7 games through 5 seasons. Wanna guess how many ‘Mr Potato Chip’ (aka, GMC) has missed in those same 5 seasons? Yup, 6 games … 1 game fewer than Richardson. But GMC “will get injured and miss plenty of games” according to your analysis. And oh BTW, in those same last 5 seasons, GMC has averaged 8 sacks/season as well as almost 30 primary tackles/season. Richardson has averaged 4 sacks/season and almost 34 primary tackles/season. And as far as ‘issues off the field’ go, Sheldon’s had more than his share.
February 24th, 2018 at 3:52 pm
Defense Rules
The funny part of this, is the fact that the Jets drafted Sheldon Richardson with the 1st pick, that the Bucs gave them for Darrelle Revis.
February 24th, 2018 at 4:07 pm
Lakeland … It’s a Bucs life
February 24th, 2018 at 4:17 pm
Lakeland,
You’re spot on. Mark Dominik was the worst.
Licht needs to not “cringe at the expectations” and GO BIG this FA period. I’d even trade up for Chubb or Barkley, both will be studs.
We can’t afford to be conservative this year, desperate rules call for desperate measures.
Lovie and Tedford need the basement suite to themselves.
February 24th, 2018 at 4:31 pm
Everyone keep talking about spending, spending but this is a weak free agency. I don’t think any of these guys can help the Bucs get to the next level. Sheldon Richardson is not the answer. What did he give the Seattle Seahawks? His lone season in Seattle and they missed the playoffs for the first time in 6 years. 15 games and one sack. I have a strong feeling Jason Licht will overpay for bums, trying to save his job. The Bucs have 19 roster spots, they need 19 quality football players to help them get to the next level.
February 24th, 2018 at 4:35 pm
SteveK…..I agree. I have to think Licht knows he needs to make a bold move too.
Looking at all the options I really think he needs to make something happen on our Dline. Available options look thin but when you factors in trades it opens up a lot more options. Chubb is in play IMO or maybe a guy like JPP could be had.
Just spitballing two names but there’s plenty more you can consider. Key will be getting players who will bring max effort on game days and practice.
February 24th, 2018 at 4:45 pm
How they address the running game is going to be interesting. Dirk seems to want to have a bellcow back and that’s fine and dandy if we get Barkley and he stays healthy all year.
But we’re probably not looking at Barkley. I think it would be best to use a committee approach with a rookie and maybe a guy like Jeremy Hill. Something tells me Dirk talks Licht into buying Hyde or Crowell if they will come to Tampa……sorta like he talked Licht into signing Djax(just a guess but I’m sure it’s accurate).
I think Dirk needs to adjust the way he uses RBs but he’s not shown us much in the adjustment dept.
February 24th, 2018 at 4:46 pm
Not sure if Richardson is the answer, but if it weren’t for the pop star we would probably already know… seeing as this is who we would have selected, instead of trading away our 1st round pick so that Revis could rehab his knee for a year in Tampa.
This team…. ugh.
February 24th, 2018 at 4:49 pm
This is how I see it.
6 players from the 2018 NFL draft
6 players re-sign
6 free agents
1 UDFA
February 24th, 2018 at 4:51 pm
unbelievable
And he was paid $16 million to spend a year in Tampa rehabbing his knee.
February 24th, 2018 at 4:57 pm
I’d find it a bit ironic if the guy the Bucs would’ve been in position to draft in 2013 had they not done the Revis trade ends up with us after all.
February 24th, 2018 at 5:09 pm
Yeah well Dominick traded for Revis and made a bold move to get the team winning and save his job IMO.
Now Licht has hit the same crossroads.
Honestly I think it’d be in the bes5 interest of the team to let Licht work with one more HC(was it only his decision to hire Dirk to begin with?) If Dirks team lays another egg.
I’d rather have Licht do his job without fearing for his job and continue building through the draft which I believe is the best way to build.
February 24th, 2018 at 5:14 pm
Re-sign these 6 players,
LS. Garrison Sanborn
DT. Clinton McDonald
TE. Cam Brate
WR. Adam Humphries
RB. Peyton Barber
DE. Will Clarke
Free Agents
OG. Andrew Norwell
DT. Dontari Poe
CB. Bashaud Breeland
RB. Isaiah Crowell
CB. Nickell Robey-Coleman
FB. Derrick Coleman
7 players from the Draft, UDFA or Practice Squad players
February 24th, 2018 at 5:21 pm
And yes the free agent picks need to get better but I think the HC needs to have proper input for this.
Realizing that Doug Martin was done and they needed to prioritize RB instead of WR(DJax) is something that your HC helps evaluate. Same thing with targeting DT(Swaggy) instead of DE.
And no I don’t know personally how the process works but I’m sure the HC has input into which positions are the most needed for his team. We can talk about how bad Swaggy and DJax were but we can also look at the fact that they ignored DE and RB which were far bigger needs.
At the end of the day Licht has to take the brunt of the blame since he is the head honcho. But in my opinion these bad decisions are complete failure from the entire front office, not just one guy.
February 24th, 2018 at 5:24 pm
Lakeland I agree with most of your list just two question.
Why Clarke over Russell?
And why not retain either Phampile or Evan Smith for depth? I would like to see both stay
February 24th, 2018 at 5:29 pm
I love that people are taking time to research possible solutions for the Bucs.
Also, forget about Jensen guys, Marpet was higher rated by PFF at C than Jensen.
February 24th, 2018 at 5:29 pm
Why do people keep saying that Donovan Smith will deserve a giant contract that he doesn’t deserve when his time comes? Build through the draft and get a top rookie or sign a pro bowl OT.
February 24th, 2018 at 5:30 pm
Some players on the active roster will also get cut during the final cuts. I’m just fooling around now.
February 24th, 2018 at 5:37 pm
SOE it’s something like 50/50 on D.Smith. Some like him some hate him.
The current coaches like him from all accounts. I hear Joe bring up the fact that he doesn’t miss games and that’s nothing to brush off. Plenty of teams have lost a key lineman and got exposed. Remember when Cherilous had to start for us and got destroyed? You could argue Cherilous cost us a playoff berth.
February 24th, 2018 at 5:40 pm
JimmyJack
I have always like Will Clarke, he has all of the tools to be a good DE. He played good in Cincy and in Tampa when given the chance. Also he had a good 2016 season in Cincy after Jay Hayes left. Will Clarke showed more promise than Ryan Russell. And as far as depth on the O-Line, I think it should come from draft. I want to see Will Clarke develop, I think Jay Hayes was holding him back in Cincy and with the Bucs.
February 24th, 2018 at 5:43 pm
They didn’t draft Richardson with out Revis pick. They drafted the cornerback from Alabama who everyone was mocking us to take. Dee milliner I think his name was
February 24th, 2018 at 5:44 pm
LL…why no center on your dream sheet…I’d like Marpet back at guard
February 24th, 2018 at 5:44 pm
I was critical of Benechot when he played because his passblocking is sloppy but after the season when I thought back to Cherilous I’ve changed my mind. We do need Benechot to work harder and improve this year though.
I’m hoping we get Nelson number seven. He’s been lauded as a leader and if he can bring more attitude and nastiness to our line it will pay dividends. If he comes as advertised I like the idea of him competing against our Dline everyday too.
February 24th, 2018 at 5:46 pm
With Tampa signing Sheldon Richardson and a few other free agents, with a good draft, we will be closing in on the playoffs, Like Mueller is closing in on you know who ?
February 24th, 2018 at 5:47 pm
Dee Milner was drafted with the Jets pick, they drafted Richardson with the pick they got from the Bucs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NFL_Draft
February 24th, 2018 at 5:49 pm
AlteredEgo
Marpet may turn out to be a good center.
February 24th, 2018 at 5:50 pm
I just thought Russel came on strong towards the end of last year. My hope is that something just finally started to click. I also like the idea that he’s a basic nobody and had to bust his ass to prove his worth being at the bottom of any roster sheet he’s been on.
I never really noticed Will Clarke too much and to be honest I have no clue how he played in Cincy.
February 24th, 2018 at 5:59 pm
Oops sorry I was wrong about Russell. Thought he was some kind of community college guy or something. Must of had him confused with somebody else.
That’s what I get for looking it up after I say it.
February 24th, 2018 at 6:32 pm
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I’m honestly thinking that Licht may need to focus on the top tier CBs in the draft and signs DEs in free agency (though NONE other than DeMarcus and Ziggy, neither of which will be available imho, are inspiring) as there is a very good chance Saquon, Chubb AND Nelson are all off the board by the time we pick at #7, and it would likely be stupid to “reach” on a DE like Davenport or a DT like Payne or Vea, all of whom are projected to be drafted in the 20s, rather than take a top 10 talent CB like Monkah, Joshua Jackson or Denzel Ward.
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February 24th, 2018 at 6:32 pm
I get sucked into this all the time, just wanted to clock in and say NFL Nut…freaking robust job with the analysis. Thanks for the effort.
Pistol
February 24th, 2018 at 6:52 pm
^ My pleasure bro 🙂
February 24th, 2018 at 6:59 pm
Nut that’s why I think makes a trade for a DE.
So you tell me who can we realistically target as a legit trade option? I’m thinking Bennett or JPP could possibly be in play.
Hey there’s a new staff in Oakland I’d call and see what they want for Mack. There’s probably no possible way they would move him but ya never know what their plan is. Worth a call at least.
Maybe Buckner can give J.Peppers a call? Might be another option.
February 24th, 2018 at 6:59 pm
What’s good Joe??? I still see you BIG homie..
February 24th, 2018 at 7:02 pm
I also think Licht should consider trading up for Chubb but only if they think he’ll make an impact as a rookie…..I know most would disagree but the guy is on the hot seat and this team has an uphill battle with no passrush to speak of. Time for Licht to go bold or he will be going home.
February 24th, 2018 at 7:06 pm
What about a trade down in the draft with Arizona and one of their ends. Let Buckner tell us who to target.
February 24th, 2018 at 7:17 pm
Jimmy Jack,
I’m in favor of trading the #7 to the Bills for the #21 and #22 but I am not in favor of trading up … this team has too many holes to lose picks.
I’d also be shocked if the Raiders would even consider moving Mack.
I’d also be surprised if Peppers doesn’t finish his career in Carolina.
However I do think we could get Michael Bennett for a 4th round pick and maybe JPP for a 3rd
February 24th, 2018 at 7:19 pm
Dante Fowler could probably be had for a 2nd and 5th as well and that kid can really get after the QB!
February 24th, 2018 at 7:19 pm
LL….the moment Marpet’s name was called I posted he’ll be a center…too bad he spent his 1st two years at guard,a very good guard, and he can probably become a very good center….however I now believe the Bucs do not have the luxury of converting Ali to a new position… move him back to guard and draft or BUY a center
February 24th, 2018 at 7:23 pm
We have the dough to trade back into the first.
Chubb/Fitzpatrick/Davenport + Vea. At least one of the two if not both will turn out to be the players they are projected to be in the NFL. Boss.
Re-sign Ayers to back up/rotational DE contract. Keep Gholston to stop the run. If not Fitz, draft or sign another DE for the left side. Sign two FA DT. Draft DT.
(L)Noah/Gholston/??–(R)Chubb or Davenport/Ayers/Russell
Draft SS and sign FA SS Eric Reid.
Sign top-tier OG and draft OG.
Sign a top-tier FA CB (Johnson, Butler, Fuller), draft one with the next highest picks we have after trading into the first, sign another in FA.
Sign top-tier RB and possibly draft one in the seventh round (we received today) and see if we can find some talent off the street (James Wilder Jr.??)
February 24th, 2018 at 7:42 pm
Yeah Nut…I think Chubb would have to be somebody really special to trade up for and don’t think he’s at that level.
Trading to the Bills may be alright but I think it depends whose on the board and how high they have them rated.
21-22 are not the sure fire thing that 7 is. Guess it all boils down to how much they like all the prospect and who they guess will be available…..Is it really worth it if they think a guy like Davenport, for example, is highly overrated?
February 24th, 2018 at 7:47 pm
Arden Key….if not for his 10 cent brain….
February 24th, 2018 at 7:56 pm
USFBUC … “forget about Jensen guys, Marpet was higher rated by PFF at C than Jensen.” I’m sure he is, but the point is Marpet has the potential to be an All-Pro Guard. Jensen is a very good Center, but my gut feel is that the Bucs won’t go LG (Norwell?) AND Center (Jensen?) in FA, because they also need to pick up at least 2 CBs (more than likely they’ll be expensive) and ideally a DE or DT (again, big $$$). Too many priority needs when you also look at our own guys that we need to re-sign. Gut feel is that Licht will only spend about half … maybe a little more … of what we have available to spend, holding the rest for next year (LOTS of mouths to feed in 2019).
February 24th, 2018 at 8:05 pm
JimmyJack
If we were to trade back to the Bills for 21 and 22, I don’t think the top four corners (Jackson, Ward, Davis, Hughes) would all be gone by then. Pick up one of them and see if you can trade down for more picks, maybe even out of the first round (Texans don’t have one) getting some even nicer picks.
February 24th, 2018 at 8:11 pm
I say trade down and draft DT Maurice Hurst and DE Arden Key.
February 24th, 2018 at 8:58 pm
Do it !! As much as the “Joe’s” and most of us are spending time coming up with a plan, I SURE AS HELL hope Licht is doing his work thinking of a way to add some quality players via free agency this year. If he sits back and doesn’t make some major impact moves I think he will be fired and probably be posting with the rest of us this time next year. DON’T MESS THIS UP LICHT!!! Go Bucs !
February 24th, 2018 at 9:08 pm
Licht’s suit on draft day will be sopping with sweat…his tenure is running on fumes….hope he makes the right calls
February 24th, 2018 at 9:39 pm
I don’t care if it’s Richardson or Dontari Poe.get McCoy some help!sign a top FA DE and draft one,get Talib and resign Grimes at all costs and let’s go!we have the LBs to play a 3-4 scheme.we just need one more dominant DT!
February 24th, 2018 at 10:23 pm
941,
It is too late for McCoy he is past his prime for this team which is why we need to get at least some value (draft picks) for him NOW. He has value to teams playoff or super bowl ready because he has several good years left. This team will not be playoff ready for another year or two. Stay young Tampa Bay so we at least have a future if this all works out!
February 24th, 2018 at 10:59 pm
I have total faith in our leadership…buwahahahahahahaha
Welcome to another Buc season.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
February 24th, 2018 at 11:52 pm
LakeLand..Don’t you truly get it? You and a few others of us are a voice of reason.
Trade down? The Bucs? How dare we? Spin the wheel? Improve? Why thats like sayin the USA needs no gun control. Shame on you!!!!!!!
February 25th, 2018 at 12:19 am
^ I believe there have been studies that the counties with the most guns in the USA have the least crime and least gun violence … just saying.
February 25th, 2018 at 2:12 am
In hindsight, that first round pick the Bucs gave up for Darrelle Revis, could have been used for not only Sheldon Richardson, but either Xavier Rhodes or DeAndre Hopkins. I am all in to sign a player the likes of Richardson. There are so many positions that have a priority. If we can not re-sign Brent Grimes then your looking at having to sign a CB in FA and then draft another in round one or two. That is why a trade with Buffalo would make sense. If they are still there, either DE Arden Key or OLB Harold Landry and either CB Jaire Alexander or CB Holten Hill would be great picks. There is a chance that CB Joshua Jackson could be there too. Can you imagine landing Jackson and Landry!? Then follow it up by drafting OG Will Hernandez in the second? Nick Chubb in the third round would make for a “grand slam” for the ages. Jackson, Landry, Hernandez and Chubb! All that would be left in FA would be to sign one of the top teir CB’s, along with Richardson and this team would be resurrected.
February 25th, 2018 at 4:44 am
I’ve been singing this song for months.
February 25th, 2018 at 8:30 am
Richardson is elite talent? How exactly???
Is it his 27 tackles in 15 games? Is it his 1.0 sacks in those same 15 games (or his 1.5 the year before)??
This guy is NOT elite talent. More like he is one of those types of players the Bucs always fall for only to regret later.
February 25th, 2018 at 8:16 pm
NFL Nut – Totally agree. Gun Control… What does that mean ? Have control over lunatics that want to do harm ? Hell, the FBI and Palm Beach Sheriff Israel were warned on numerous times they had a Serious problem in Florida and DID nothing. Do you want to get rid of the 2nd amendment where no guns are out there ? How are you going to get rid of them ? A magic wand ? Like the old west; whatever responsible adult should be packing. Talk to a liberal and they shutter; big government will save them. By the way, a neighbor of mine was a Mensa and he had a magazine on his coffee table I looked at. In the back, they had ads advertising smart boy looking for a smart girl and vice versa. So, If a 150 IQ marries a 150 IQ and produces a baby, what’s the kids IQ going to be ?