Sapp Has Words For Jameis Haters

January 26th, 2018

Defending America.

If you hate America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, and like Warren Sapp, you will struggle with this story.

Recently, Kevin O’Donnell of WTVT-TV Channel 13 caught up with Sapp in Tampa. Sapp is in town working out college football players who are prepping for the combine and their pro days.

O’Donnell asked Sapp about the loud cries from the Jameis haters who seem to want Jameis cut from the Bucs tomorrow. These fans drive Sapp, a Pro Football Hall of Famer and member of the Bucs’ Ring of Fame, out of his mind.

Why? Because Sapp thinks the Jameis haters are out of their minds.

“What quarterback are we measuring him to that we’ve had in our organization?” Sapp asked. “Brad Johnson won a championship and most Bucs fans don’t know who he is.

“Stop, stop. Just stop. Just stop. I wish I had a quarterback like that. I’ll take “The Bull” [Johnson] and my championship. If I had Jameis when we were humming… I’d have me some championships.”

Sapp even suggested Jameis haters are “spoiled” for no good reason.

Joe agrees wholeheartedly with Sapp. It seems the Jameis haters who masquerade as Bucs fans have unreal standards for Jameis. Geez, when did Joe Montana ever play for the Bucs?

To listen to this shrill crowd, Joe never imagined Rob Johnson and Byron Leftwich were so popular.

You may enjoy O’Donnell’s full interview with Sapp below.

70 Responses to “Sapp Has Words For Jameis Haters”

  1. USFBUC Says:

    Hate on Winston is scary because it shows a generalized lack of intelligence. People who hate Winston, like Brawndo.

    Comparing his stats over the first three years as a starter to Brady and Rodgers he comps very well to both but the real comp to both of them starts this next season where Winston will be the same age as Brady when he first took over the starting position. I believe that extra year will improve some of the rashness we currently see in Winston.

  2. SteveK Says:

    Where is Sapp wrong? He is so on point, I wish he was a coach just to hear his pressers.

  3. SteveK Says:

    People are pissed that the Buccaneers suck.

    Fans blame Jameis and GMC bc they are they best players on both sides of the ball.

    #3 is ok by me, I just expect better ball security next year. We can’t win with silly mistakes that lead to turnovers. Mistakes will happen, but I really want to see less unforced errors from Winston. It’s no knock on Jameis, more is just expected of him bc he and Gerald are both top 3 draft choices.

  4. richbucsfan Says:

    Ok, we all get your point…Anyone with an opinion that expresses impatience with JW’s progress is an idiot. Got it. Thanks. Not sure what your point is, but to denigrate your readers usually is not a smart move.

  5. Ndog Says:

    So richbucsfan basically you can’t handle being wrong. Is that it?

  6. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    richbucsfan, admitting your problem is the first step on the road to recovery.

  7. Suebucsfan Says:

    I think there is another important factor to be considered for those of us who are not happy with Jameis. In my case and at this point I think the bigger concern is his poor behavior and whether he can mature enough to handle the leadership role that is expected of him. I for one gave him a pass on his early off field issues because it was impossible to tell what really happened. But his behavior that I have observed makes me question that pass. Eating W’s, poking people, shoving Shelton Quarles, a seeming inability to control his emotions ….now makes me question that pass. Yes he is young but there are plenty of young players who conduct themselves professionally. I really don ‘t see any other quarterback behaving like Jameis. It is enthusiasm bordering on lunacy in my opinion. With his work ethic and his drive to succeed, I would be willing to tolerate his on field mistakes and allow him time to get better. But I have this nagging feeling that we may give him time only to learn later on that the time was wasted on an immature kid who can’t handle the leadership role. I really hope I am wrong.

  8. Realbucfan941 Says:

    Hey Rich, maybe he’s saying he’s tired of reading b!tc# fests from uninformed fans who really don’t understand the game.

  9. Bucsfanman Says:

    I’m no “hater” but I d@mn sure ain’t putting Jameis in the HOF either!
    Keep working JW, keep working. You’ll get there.

  10. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    How about lets get Jameis a running game and a defense like Brad Johnson.

    Then we will see how really good he is.

  11. Pickgrin Says:

    USFBUC Says:
    “People who hate Winston, like Brawndo”

    LOL – But USF – Brawndo’s got what plants crave. Its got Electrolytes… – Water?? On the plants? you mean like water out the toilet???

  12. Pickgrin Says:

    Tbbf – I’d settle for a couple good interior Oline players that could open some running lanes and give Jameis more than his seeming average of 1.2 seconds to make a decision.

    Fix the Oline – Fix the Offense – “its as simple as that” as the simpleton would say…

  13. DoNUTS Says:

    Well said Sue.

    I am a big Bucs fan but I think some fans are dishonest about their view of Winston. There are more stats than total yards to eval QB performance. Since we love to compare Winston to Brady (didn’t play as rookie) and Rodgers (sat-Favre), put the games played stat up there too then tell me again how much better Winston was in his first 3 years. I think the “before age 23 stat” selection is another great example of when Winston lovers choose to only see what they see rather than the whole picture. I think JBF’s mistake with Winston is the inference that he is more than he reality says he is….the monikers ProBowler (went to 1) and America QB are good examples.

    I want what is best for the Bucs. He is the best Buc QB ever but that does not exclude him from criticism. For those of you who cant handle a little honest analysis, I say too bad and grow a pair.

    In RE Sapp, his QB opinion has no more value than mine. Sapp is not the brightest bulb in the batch and I would listen to him if he was talking line play but his knowledge ends there. I heard enough of him on NFL network to know that. Sapp is a child who thinks he is owed something. He has been that way since the first time I met him in the early 90s. Mike Irvin – who I went to HS with- was the same way.

  14. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Jameis supporter but the guy needs to stop acting like a flat out idiot, the crap in new orleans, that isn’t a leader the pointing at lattimore and the eating the Ws, cut that crap out and be the leader that people want to run through a wall for, but JW is far better leader than that false one 93

  15. DanBucsFan Says:

    23 years old 3 years into his career. He will mature and develop. The W’s thing got lil blown up , if we woulda won game then most probably woulda praised him for it. In about 3 years we will all be happy because our team has real good young pieces add some decent veteran FA and we will be perennial playoff team and be in position to fire a coach for not getting to a superbowl as opposed to firing a coach for winning 4-5 games. Trust the process

  16. Richbucsfan Says:

    LOL. Your responses were perfectly scripted. Am I trying to run JW? Not in any way. Have I criticized him for saying the same thing about what he has to do to up his game? Yes. I urge that he talk less and perform more. That’s all. BTW, is he paid chump change? Hardly. Therefore, he must improve. Simple as that. I must that that writing here is really fun. The replies are so easy to script. Nothing original, just the SOS from mindless cavemen. LOL

  17. Ndog Says:

    All of the people bringing up the eating the W’s thing what is the big deal? Did it hurt anyone, did it cost us points, was it a turnover? In my humbe opinion anyone who takes that into consideration when evaluating Jameis is a weak minded sheep who just cares aboute preception and not reality. On the NO thing I said it then and I’ll say it now that punk Lattimore was on OUR sideline talking trash so somebody with some balls had to do something. Jameis just did it cause no one else on our team has any guts! Should he habe done it no but when up accept a beat down and let someone talk trash to your whole team that is exactly the kind of attitude that makes this organization the losers we are today!

  18. DanBucsFan Says:

    Solidifying our lines will help us get to next level. Looks like offensive line is available in the draft if we can snag Nelson who would be a huge upgrade and by all accounts a future all pro. There are options they can take but id love to see us get a true center either draft or free agent but not just a average center a center who has above average abilities, Marpet back to Rg and all the sudden our O line looks stellar. Then we can hopefully hit on a mid round D lineman our free agent D lineman. But we cant expect to address all our weakness in one offseason but if we fix one side of line and other next offseason draft we will actually look like we have a PLAN

  19. Eric Says:

    The sheep are grazing early thus morning. Same people with the same excuses.

  20. Pickgrin Says:

    If the defense hadn’t wet their pants in the 4th Quarter FIVE different times last year after Winston had gotten us the clutch points needed to win all those games – The Bucs go 10-6 and then any criticism of Winston would sound pretty foolish or at least nitpicky.

    Eating W’s would have been weird but cute if the Bucs had won that game instead of getting blown out by the Saints. But just like that loss – it became “gross and disturbing”.

    In that same game – Lattimore was lingering on the Bucs sideline taunting and running his mouth. Winston was gesturing for the brash rookie to get the fluck out of the Bucs designated area with that trashtalk and back over to where he belonged and wound up poking his helmet with the “get out of here” gesture – to which Lattimore lashed out with a push… So Lattimore started it, then pushed Jameis once the words heated up – and then Evans comes flying in and hotheadedly slams Lattimore with a hit John Lynch would be proud of. But Jameis gets criticized for trying to take control of his team’s sideline when it was Lattimore and Evans who lost their tempers.

    You think Tom Brady would have been criticized for losing his temper if he had just fought for a loose ball with a 290 lb defender under a pile and managed to recover that fumble only to have it (and thus the game) taken away by one of the most ridiculous referee calls I have ever seen?

    All these little “negative” things get ultra magnified as if they are meaningful when the team is not winning. Same with criticism of coach K’s playcalling and “clock management issues”.

    All that talk goes away if the defense had just done its job successfully in the 4th Quarter last year.

    Just sayin….

  21. DoNUTS Says:

    Ndog “Did it hurt anyone?”

    Yes, it did. It hurt Winston’s credibility in the locker room and his ability to lead but it will heal in time and more mature player experiences with Winston. DJAX comments this week said so.

    Winston is the future so we need to figure out how to work with his skills and coach K has one more year to figure it out or he will be on the list of ex-Buc coaches. Koetter needs to adapt to Winston. I think he has not done enough in his play calling to adapt. Winston does not help by making bone head plays on a consistent basis. Winston is a QB turd at the moment and Koetter needs to figure out how to shine it.

    The thing that is shocking me the most is the team is in a state of denial in the coaching area. Licht must be pacing the room. I thought Bajankian and Smith would be gone by now. Living in a state of denial or average is acceptable in the culture, which stems from the Glazer family.

  22. Buc believer Says:

    Sapp is so AWESOME! The guy may be a real jerk off the field but who the f…ck cares!! I don’t want a choir boy on the field I want a bad ass that makes other teams s…t their pants that they have to play against! If the Glazers want instant credibility that should come up with a staff position “President of Bad Assness” and make Sapp the first one!

  23. Dooshlarue Says:


    Very well said.
    You summarized my feelings about JW to a T.

  24. Matt Says:

    Most of the haters are just Gator fans who just can’t accept having a FSU QB so their going to just keep hating.

  25. Pickgrin Says:

    That’s because you are an aptly named doosh who has never liked Winston from day 1.

  26. 813bucboi Says:

    so happy we lost that final game to land Winston….where would we be without him….GO BUCS!!!!

  27. ManzielMadness Says:

    I love how people think Gators fans as the JW haters. I’m a HUGE gator fan and the past 3 years I’ve wanted Cook, Ramsey, and Winston. Just cause I hate the Noles doesn’t mean I can’t see the talent they have.

  28. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Quite simply, Jameis is the best option we have, and the best we will have for quite a while. We all have different opinions on how good he is, but there isn’t another QB available that we know would be an upgrade. Jameis has been far from perfect, but he’s also been far from a bum. He hasn’t always behaved himself well, but he hasn’t been a complete fool either (he does a ton of stuff in the community). Go back and think about every single QB we’ve ever had, there’s only one that you could say (and still be credible) is better than Jameis – Steve Young. And what happened with Steve Young? I rest my case.

  29. DislocatedBucsFan Says:

    Sue’s views are accurate and are understandable. Has he set Buccaneer and NFL records? Sure, so did Josh Freeman. The gripes that I had with him coming out of college were that he and his team were notorious for slow starts and having to comeback. Why would an offense be stalled for multiple quarters? I place most of that is on Jameis. QB is the sole position that can light a spark on any given down. Why wasn’t that spark lit? His eating W’s I could care less about and the Saints antics… well I’d rather that attitude that Baker’s. I love JW passion and no quit attitude. Discipline can be instilled as he matures. My biggest gripe is his on field decision making, accuracy and inability to protect the football. The man is a turnover machine. His turnover count was 34! He forces the ball into very tight windows which often leads to picks or incomplete passes. He is a very inaccurate QB. JW should not be compared to Buc alumni, he should be compared to his peers. Right now he is an average QB. Do I want to get rid of him? No, certainly not hes the best available right now and hes under contract. Do I think right now hes worth a huge contract. Definitely not. I think the best option moving forward is to use the rookie option at the end of his rookie contract and the decision needs to be made then. He has to improve. The blind support of JW is shocking alarming.

  30. Mike Johnson Says:

    There are more Koetter and Mike Smith Haters than Jameis haters. And the Glazers come in at the top of the list for not knowing or wanting to know how to win!!

  31. JL47 Says:

    I’m on the fence with Jameis Winston. He always tries to make something out of nothing which mostly results in a turnover. However, the O-line is pretty sh!tty so have 2 seconds in the pocket isn’t excactly the best for a QB. However, Jameis will continue to be a turnover machine but he’ll keep making plays. His immaturity is severely questioned however. I actually read a comment on here that said “jameis pointed at lattimore because he actually had the balls to do so”. No, he shouldn’t have. Back up your trash talk on the field, not the sidelines. In fact, I guarantee that mike Evans wouldn’t have been suspended because of that if Jameis Winston never poked Lattimore. Could we get a better QB than Jameis Winston? Yeah. Is Jameis better than half the starting QBs? Yeah

  32. JL47 Says:

    Also, I don’t give a rats @ss what Warren Sapp says. I’d rather get hit by a car than hearing this punk ramble about anything.

  33. Bobby M. Says:

    I’ve been saying, if we can win with Brad Johnson, you can win with Winston. But if the argument is we need an all time great defense, stellar running game and Pro Bowl receivers at every positon on the field…..then Winston isn’t a franchise QB and was not worth the #1 pick. He’s a “better then we’ve had” but when you’ve never signed a single QB to an extension, that’s not saying much. Its not like Rodgers with Favre….or Young and Montana…..there’s no daunting shadow hanging over him like McCoy has with Sapp.

  34. rrsrq Says:

    I love it…
    who are we measuring him against in our history

    Go Bucs

  35. miken Says:

    Its funny, if you point out that Jameis isn’t doing everything he needs to do yet, you’re a hater. If you complain about his poor decisons like getting spun around in the redzone and throwing the ball up for grabs like a highschool qb, you’re a hater. If no other qb in the nfl is going onto the feild provoking a fight but #3 and you complain, you’re a hater. It’s not that there are haters, it’s the lovers… the lovers sweep every mistake under the rug. The lovers blame every turnover on the line or wr or bad luck. The lovers won’t accept anything else than he’s a HOFer. He has the tools and shows the sign, but theres a lot of work to be done. He’s got to improve. I hope he’s the guy, but the jury is still out. This time last year, it was #weapons4winston. Now its a better oline, better d and better run game for winston… every qb in the league will be great with all that.
    I’m not a hater, Im a complaner of bad football. Not only does Jameis need to improve, but I think he needed a new play caller and that ain’t happening. Go Jameis/ Go Bucs

  36. Dooshlarue Says:


    Not sure you know what you’re talking about there.
    I’ve never been anti-Winston. I call him out on his mistakes, but you must have me confused with someone else.

    As far as my name…….you do realize we get to choose our own right?
    I would say that I’m a just a self-aware person.

    I would guess by your moniker that you really like the sound of banjo music….. you know, like the title track from the movie Deliverance.

    Bet I know your favorite scene too…….

  37. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Jameis is a very complicated story at this point. So much to like…so much to dislike…so much talent…so much immaturity.

    I’m fine with #3 on the field. But I echo Sue who wrote a great post…#3 still makes me nervous. He seems like such a likeable young man ya gotta root for him. Hopefully he can get it all together for 2018…I think we all really want to root for him!

    As for Lattimore and trash talk. I’ve never been a fan of trash talking…I was raised to believe talk is cheap. However there are some times when trash talking is appropriate.

    Lattimore cleaned Jameis and Mike Evans clocks in that game. Evans gets suspended a game and Jameis gets another smudge on his rep. What did Lattimore get? THE LAST LAUGH!!! If I was an NFL DB I would be trash talking ME13 mercilessly because he’s shown you can DISTRACT him and throw him off his game.

    Our star young defensemen for the Lightning just learned this lesson the hard way. He conceded that a recent game against Chicago had gotten “emotional” he he cracked and cross checked a player getting a stupid penalty..worse still he then cursed the ref out and made it a double penalty…4 minutes for NOTHING!!!

    Sergachev has sat the past two games even with the Lightning missing their top D..Hedman. Cooper doesn’t screw around with this bs…screw up like that and you can learn you lesson from the bench.

    Responding to trash talk means the other guy WON.

  38. lambchop Says:

    A QB, who is supposedly the best we’ve ever had, should not be throwing the ball into triple and quadruple coverage, throwing while falling on his butt, trying to shovel a pass to avoid a sack (leading to a pick-6), and behaving like a spoiled brat (lattimore, refs/quarles, etc.) in his TERD year. I think we can expect a QB with WAY better ball control and decision making. I’m not asking for accuracy and better footwork. I’m talking about not sabotaging your team’s chances by adding onto your skill deficiencies. He will hopefully improve, but I’m no homer. He’s gotta play better. The great QBs play when it’s all on their shoulders. Sometimes, our QB has to carry the team. If he can make great sound bites and give impressive rhetoric filled lectures, then I expect (and his teammates) him to put his money where his mouth is and lead by example. Nobody forced him to be a vocal leader. He took that upon himself. So, I’ll hold him to his standards of excellence that he likes so much to vocalize. Talk is cheap.

    I expect much better from 3. So should you. It’s his 3rd frikkin year with the same OC. There’s no excuses for the boneheaded mistakes.

    You guys talk about other teams that have higher standards by letting go of key coaching staff (LeBeau) even after having a fairly successful season. Why not have the same standards for players? Why do they get a pass? Cuz they’re the #1 pick with all the opportunities to shine? And because they’re a hometown kid? I prefer seeing poise when everything is going south, than a guy who can only perform when the stars align.

  39. RickinFtMyers Says:

    Tampa Bay fans need to get over themselves already.

    Everyone was high fiving and drooling when the Bucs selected Jameis Winston with the #1 pick in 2015. What did you all think we were getting? Winston was a gunslinger in 2015 and despite Dirk Koetter’s best efforts he’s a gunslinger in 2018.

    Gunslinging at QB is baked into Winston’s DNA and it’s never going to change, because you can’t change your DNA. Oh, coaching, maturity, and experience in the NFL will temper that gunslinging mentality to a degree, increase his completion percentage, improve his TD/INT ratio, and maybe teach him how to complete the long ball, but a gunslinger Winston will always be just like the HOF QBs most analogous to Winston – Dan Marino and Brett Favre.

    For Bucs fans the question is how many Lombardi trophies will the gunslinger Jameis Winston will bring to Tampa Bay.
    Let’s keep in mind that Marino brought none to Miami and Favre only brought one to Green Bay.

    The keys for Tampa moving forward will lie in the front office. Jason Licht and the scouting department need to realize what Winston is, a gunslinger, and build a team around him that will support his never give up on a play mentality. Only the front office can give the Bucs a ground game that allows Tampa to grind out a close game and a defense that can hold onto that narrow lead in the fourth quarter.

    Did anyone really think the Bucs were getting a game manager or a dink and dunk passer when they drafted Winston?

  40. Pick6 Says:

    often, the way bad teams stay bad is by somehow blaming their best players for how bad the team is. to me it would make far more sense to blame the bad players, but hey

  41. DB55 Says:

    If you like Gerald but hate on jameis not only are you an idiot but you’re prob a big ass p****y too.

  42. Wausa Says:

    Jameis is already one of the top QB’s in the NFL. It’s even more impressive how good he is with the Bucs having the worst group of running backs in the NFL along with the worst defense in the NFL.

  43. mike10 Says:

    Lol you’re right joe, our standard as Bucs fans is a long history of mediocrity! Who are we to not be happy with Jameis’ play

  44. Mike Johnson Says:

    Jameis is already one of the NFL’s top QB’s? If 5-12 is at the top then keep up the good work Jameis.

  45. DB55 Says:

    Defense wins championships

  46. Rob Says:

    I’ve been watching this team since 1997, and I can’t speak to how good Doug Williams was, but Winston is hands down the best QB this team has had in over 20 years, and his ceiling is ridiculously high.

    The Bucs and this fanbase would be complete fools to run him out of town.

  47. University of Seffner Says:

    I never have and never will be a Jameis Hater. Right now is a good time to figure out the people who constantly criticize Jameis. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it still today that Jameis Winston will take us places in the future, the timing is the main question of when that’ll happen. When it does, remember the people who are spewing negativity at Jameis now, because when the Bucs get good again, like any other bandwagon fan, they’ll be running to the nearest store to buy their Jameis Winston Jerseys to wear at the Bar on game day.

  48. mark2001 Says:

    Just to remind you what I’ve been telling you for months….Jameis needs better coaching, but he isn’t the problem. He can take the Bucs as far as there is to go, with the right coaching and teammates.

  49. NFLNut Says:


  50. richbucsfan Says:

    @university of seffner, at this point, the Bucs have a million miles to go to become a relevant franchise. JW and his learning is a big concern, but there are bigger concerns. The draft and free agency will clarify the desire of the franchise to win. Last season they put total confidence in questionable players. They must hit it in free agency and the draft or it will just be another 4-12 or 6-10 season. It would be great if JW matured and became spot on accurate, but we have to keep in mind he will probably be suspended for up to 6 games.

  51. Bigbucfan87 Says:

    I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s FSU fans that hate Winston.
    Every gator/bucs fan including myself, feels the same way you do.
    Every FSU/bucs fan that I talk to, I get mixed feelings about Winston.
    So what I’m praying for is that it’s just the FSU fans that read joebucsfan that are dumb as hell and not every FSU fan. Bucs will be in the playoffs next year everyone relax.

  52. Oxycondoms Says:

    People act like like Jameis has bettis and Hines ward on offense or billicheck as coach or a solid oline or a solid defense to back him up or he’s in his prime or the Bucs signed Calais Campbell in the offseason and drafted fournette . Jameis is least of bucs worries

  53. Erik w/ Clean Athletics Says:

    I love Jameis, but I hated his lack of execution early in the year which basically derailed our season.

    I love execution, hate lack of execution…

    Surprising? Not to educated football fans

  54. Erik w/ Clean Athletics Says:

    Jameis wasn’t connecting on alot of routine throws early in the year, even before the injury. And it was getting to the point where it was appalling.

    Our best QB this year was Fitz, until the last couple games.

  55. Rod Munch Says:

    Sapp is right again.

  56. Rod Munch Says:

    Hey Erik, did you watch that Pats vs Bucs game? If you did what you’d have seen is Tom Brady missing passes, with an S. If you watch the MNF game versus Atlanta you’d have seen Matt Ryan miss probably 10 passes, at the very least. You see QBs miss throws, that’s part of the game. Also Winston was not missing a lot of routes/throws early in the season, his worst early season game by far as the Pats game, which was a really windy night, and one of Brady’s worst games of the season.

    If you dolts actually knew anything about football then you wouldn’t be so remarkably boring all the time. If you think Fitz is the best QB on the team, then do me a favor and drive to the top of the Skyway, get out, and dive over the edge.

    God bless.

  57. Pickgrin Says:

    Dooshlarue Says:
    January 26th, 2018 at 10:10 am
    Not sure you know what you’re talking about there.
    I’ve never been anti-Winston. I call him out on his mistakes, but you must have me confused with someone else.

    My bad – mea culpa – sorta..

    I remembered that you were an irrational hater – just forgot which of our best players you irrationally and regularly hated on. Closer examination reveals it is GMC that you love to put down – not Winston.

    Does that make you any less dooshy? Not really.

    It takes all kinds to make up a “fan”base I guess. Carry on…

  58. DoNUTS Says:

    Look at all these EXCUSES and Winston APOLOGISTS~!! Holy spit…are there any objective Buc fans left? I called Winston a “QB turd” this AM….he is a turd and is played like one in 2017. Koetter better shine the turd this offseason or its gonna get real stinky next season. I guess everyone forgot about the 3 INTs in the last game after the late TD win. Most days in the NFL, you lose if you have 3 INTs. You all are not being honest with yourselves. If your the QB with the most fumbles in the league and your top 3 in INTs…your a QB turd that needs work.


    his worst early season game by far as the Pats game, which was a really windy night, and one of Brady’s worst games of the season. <<<Excuse

    Most of the haters are just Gator fans who just can’t accept having a FSU QB so their going to just keep hating. << I have never been to G'ville so that shoots that theory of excuse

    It’s even more impressive how good he is with the Bucs having the worst group of running backs<<excuse

    gunslinger Winston <<< overused term that is meaningless..PS 4000 yards is average like a C+ in NFL. What is a gunslinger in the NFL? In reality, its what Maddon called Favre on Sunday. Winston is so far from being Favre its not even funny.

    I wonder what some of you are watching on Sundays.

  59. Rod Munch Says:

    DoNUTS – Be less boring.

  60. NFLNut Says:

    You Donuts … if 4,000 yards isn’t a big deal, why did Winston have more in the first 2 years of his career (at the ages of 21-22) than Cam Newton, Derek Carr, Dak Prescott and Carson Wentz have had in the COMBINED 15 years of NFL football they played.

    Go find another site to troll on … you’re a boring read.

  61. DalvinCookRules Says:

    JW’s improvements were masked by the decline in the running game last season… when the defenses know the QB is forced to throw on 3rd downs, esp. when it’s 3rd and long, they have a huge advantage, and that increases the probability of turnovers…. sure such situations may not phase the absolute upper tier of the NFL, such as Rodgers, Brady, & Brees, but those guys are RARE. JW is clearly not at that level yet, but he can also make some throws that even those guys CAN’T MAKE.

    What fans forget is you have 3 or 4 of the top 25 QBs who ever played this game playing in the NFL right now, and about a half dozen more guys who would rank in the Top 100 QBs to ever play the game.

    Yeah, JW didn’t turn out to be black Joe Montana, but he is good, overall, and his trajectory continues to point up.

  62. denjoe Says:

    Joe agrees wholeheartedly with Sapp. It seems the Jameis haters who masquerade as Bucs fans

    This has to be Lee’s Writing. I think Jamesis is the best Qb as far as competion perecent we ever had and I like him, but I also can understand people not liking him. because of the stupid $hit he does sometimes, that doesn’t mean they are not buc fans. If this uber thing goes south, you will be crucifying him tomorrow.Why do you have to be so divisive in your writing? Are you as intolerant as you come off?

  63. Rod Munch Says:

    DalvinCookRules – No one ever said Jameis was going to be Joe Montana, that’s just a dumb comparison I literally never heard until you said it. He’s Brett Favre, and so far he’s having a very Brett Favre career, which is a good thing. If Jameis ignores Dirk like he did at the end of the NO game and plays to win instead of kicking FGs, he’ll carry the team by himself.

  64. DoNUTS Says:

    NFLNUT – please dont read my posts then if it hurts your Winston feeling; you are exactly the Buc fan I am talking about. Zero objectivity. All good because I know I am talking at a higher NFL IQ that you may be able to comprehend. 4000 yards is not a big deal in a 16 game season in a PASSING league. Sorry bubble burster.

    Rod – well I dont read your posts either as you seem to have your head between Winston’s cheeks most times…all good.

    Carry on! Go Bucs!

  65. Erik w/ Clean Athletics Says:

    Rod, Munch this d!ck.

  66. Rod Munch Says:

    Oh wow Erik, I see what you did there, you took my name, that I choose, and then found out that it could have a double meaning… Amazing stuff brah.

  67. loggedontosay Says:

    god made DoNut the judge.

  68. Nate Says:

    I don’t think Joe or Sapp means the Winston haters are those who hold jameis to his #1 pick standard

    It’s the fans who would rather have a 2nd rate nobody and average to barely good talent….

  69. NFLNut Says:

    DoNuts … next time, try to actually answer my question …

  70. I Bleed Pewter and Red Says:

    If Jameis hadn’t had Mariota stealing some of his thunder during the 2015 draft I think things would have been different. TB had to decide between them with the first pick and many fans feel that pick should have been Mariota. Sadly Jameis’s career will always be compared to Mariota, and the Titans making the playoffs probably made them Jameis deniers even louder.