King: Chucky Saved Koetter
January 9th, 2018
A sect of Bucs fans wanted Dirk Koetter gone this month because the Bucs terribly under-performed and finished with a 5-11 record.
Well, for those folks who have been in hibernation since Team Glazer decided to retain Koetter, there is one man to blame, said chewing-with-his-mouth-open, soup-gulping, California train-romancing, anti-football proliferation, outhouse-admiring, airline-napping, steerage-flying, Yogi Berra-worshiping, urinal picture-taking, video game-playing, Taylor Swift-listening, pickpocket-thwarting, Bucs-uniform-frowning, Allie-LaForce-smitten, Big-Ten-Network-hating, pedestrian-bumping, olive oil-lapping, popcorn-munching, coffee-slurping, fried-chicken-eating, oatmeal-loving, circle-jerking, craft beer-chugging, cricket-watching, scone-loathing, college football-naïve, baseball-box-score-reading, NPR-honk, filthy-hotel-staying, fight-instigating, barista-training, social activist Peter King of SI.com fame. And that man’s name is Chucky.
Appearing last week with the one and only Chris “Mad Dog” Russo, heard exclusively on SiriusXM Mad Dog Radio, King noted that if Chucky wanted to coach the Bucs, he would be the coach of the Bucs today.
Chris “Mad Dog” Russo: Out of all the coaches who stayed, are you surprised Koetter survived down there in Tampa?
Peter King: I think Koetter saved his job not by winning his last game of the season or anything like that. I think he saved his job because Jon Gruden went to Oakland.
So there you have it folks. For those who are angry Chucky is not on the Bucs sidelines, blame Chucky, not Team Glazer.
January 9th, 2018 at 12:07 am
yupp…sounds about right
January 9th, 2018 at 12:12 am
Even if Gruden was available I’ll still would of went with Koetter.
January 9th, 2018 at 12:13 am
But whats deeper when you strip this onion Joe is WHY he went to Oakland
The Uber thing plus the loose cannon tirades from the eating W nonsense that should of not elevated over alphabet soup speech
plus the New Orleans New World Order Booker T finger push imitation
LEAD to grudens choice….right or wrong ….we shall see
AND MY SOURCE IS VERY GOOD…..Nate Dubb
January 9th, 2018 at 12:18 am
Whatever. I just hope it works out for the Bucs. I’ll enjoy watching from the couch and not the stadium next season. Good luck with ticket sales.
January 9th, 2018 at 12:25 am
Struggled through a Dull Patrick podcast because a reader swore he heard Patrick reference JoeBucsFan (it was actually Joe Buck) and man, did Patrick tee off on Chucky being an overrated coach. Basically said Chucky’s made tens of millions off a lie (that he is an offensive guru). Patrick believes Chucky will destroy Derek Carr.
January 9th, 2018 at 12:26 am
Nate it’s a 100 million reasons he went to Oakland. Not any of them have to do with yours.
January 9th, 2018 at 12:42 am
No way the Glazers were going to shell out that much money for Gruden or anybody else. Plus we really don’t know if Gruden wanted to come here anyway.
When the Glazers only extended Licht’s contract for one year, bringing back Koetter and with Winston entering his contract year, I think that was the Glazers saying “you guys have one more year to turn this thing around”
January 9th, 2018 at 12:51 am
Buc Fan in NC Says:
January 9th, 2018 at 12:26 am
Nate it’s a 100 million reasons he went to Oakland. Not any of them have to do with yours.
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DONT SHOOT THE MESSENGER NC
I like jameis as much as the next fan …but IF your a real bucs fan you will admit he has to lock in like Brady does…and don’t be afraid to call out the foolishness
UNLESS you have friends that played for his brother or played for him himself
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I KNOW LOL
Some og you I tell you if you have NO LIMIT TO CALLING YOUR QB OUT WHEN NECESSARY
what do you think that does…enables him to get worse or make him better
I guarantee you his FSU brethren is telling him the same thing but he answers to the bucs front office which has the same attitude as you
I wouldn’t feel I would need to change for the better either SMDH
January 9th, 2018 at 12:52 am
Some of * you / typo
January 9th, 2018 at 12:53 am
(and that brethren would be Brooks btw)
January 9th, 2018 at 1:01 am
Naturally it couldn’t possibly be that Chucky didn’t trust the Glazer boys and went with the organization he had best chance to succeed.
That, in my book, makes it the Glazer’s fault. The same reason they couldn’t get anybody else of any note to coach the team.
We shall see if he “ruins” Carr.
But even if he is league MVP I’m sure nobody around here would give him any credit.
January 9th, 2018 at 1:16 am
Ok enough already We all have been doing this bulls!t too long, Bucs management get this done already
A fix our defense
B tell our QB to grow up
C get a RB
D stop playing for fieldgoals
E try to save your Fusking job dummy
January 9th, 2018 at 1:17 am
SAVE YOUR FUSKING JOB DUMMY
January 9th, 2018 at 1:24 am
Brilliant obvious observation by Peter King.
Duh.
January 9th, 2018 at 1:25 am
I think the sun came up this morning because night time was over.
January 9th, 2018 at 1:51 am
Joe will!
January 9th, 2018 at 3:30 am
Just because Gruden went to the Raiders does not mean Koetter should have stayed. Koetter should have been fired no matter what.
There were plenty of coaches available, all who were upgrades over Koetter. They were young hot shots like Nagy and DeFilipo and former HCs like Schwartz and McDaniels.
January 9th, 2018 at 4:15 am
I’ve been thinking this all along. This isn’t 2002 anymore otherwise Lovie Smith might have panned out. What makes anyone think Jon is going to do squat after 10 years? Did he get us over the hump? Yes. But after that what did he do?
He tried to remodel this team, but in the end he left the cupboards bare. What young QB has he developed? Who has he drafted?
Thank you glazers for bucking this coaching carousel and giving this team what it hasn’t had in 10 years, a 3rd year coach. Thank you for ignoring this moronic fan base for once. A fan base who clamors for change for the sake of change. Who demands instant gratification instead of understanding how to build. You might not presell as many tickets but everyone will hop back on the bandwagon when we start winning.
January 9th, 2018 at 5:43 am
Bottom line….you can trust what Koetter says. Gruden lost the trust of the players. I’ve had my fill of liars over the last year or so. Gruden won with players other coaches trained. The spotlight should be on the team, not the HC. Give Koetter a healthy team and he will win. This franchise needs stability, not another regime change.
January 9th, 2018 at 5:53 am
Correction 7 years. Forgot about Raheem. Raheem deserved a 3rd year more than Koetter does but Heem’s players quit on him bad. Too many Freemans and Winslow clowns and not enough Jameis(es?) and Kwons.
January 9th, 2018 at 6:18 am
Nate wth are you saying? I can’t understand that jibberish you typed up. Please construct proper sentences when responding. I’m not in your brain so I can’t understand it.
January 9th, 2018 at 6:55 am
Nate
Don’t listen to ball gargaler NC buc..Jameis does nothing wrong in his eyes …everyone needs Jameis to be the guy and everyone is behind him , otherwise , the bucs will be set back another 5 years. Unfortunately , he cannot be criticized by many posters here , even though he is the most important player on the field , who touches the ball every offensive play.
I know you have commented being former player. But not Nate Webster. Are you able to share ? All good if not…
Us Nates need to stick together!
January 9th, 2018 at 6:59 am
Watch the Alabama game last night ?
Two qbs for Alabama. Same players on offense. Same coaches.
1 qb was losing the game for Alabama
1 qb won the game for Alabama.
January 9th, 2018 at 7:02 am
Well now, Peter King said it. Then it must be true. Did you notice he said “I think”? Not “I know for a fact”. It’s his opinion. Nothing more. Show me the offer the Glazers made Gruden. I doubt they made one. “If” they wanted Gruden, it’s their fault, not his. Period.
January 9th, 2018 at 7:10 am
I have to say I agree with Peter on this one.
January 9th, 2018 at 7:34 am
I wanted him gone because he was out coached in every game.
January 9th, 2018 at 7:40 am
Glazers should’ve gave him the Lovie ultimatum, Lovie fire your son or you’re fired…. Dirk fire your friend or you’re fired, ijs.
January 9th, 2018 at 7:46 am
So there you have it folks. For those who are angry Chucky is not on the Bucs sidelines, blame Chucky, not Team Glazer.
How about blame the glazers for this team sucking for years and for not identifying a good coach since Chucky left.
January 9th, 2018 at 7:54 am
Gruden got way overpaid. The Raiders set him up for failure by offering that contract. He has no room for failure, its Super Bowl or he will have failed.
January 9th, 2018 at 7:54 am
I’m happy Koetter got another year…..let’s fix the problems with the Dline and add a RB and things will change…..oh, and Koetter needs to learn his limitations. Delegate the playcalling, Dirk
As for Gruden, I wll be eternally grateful to him for that Super Bowl and I wish him luck with the Raiders……I have mixed emotions about bringing him back, but I don’t have to deal with those anymore.
January 9th, 2018 at 7:56 am
What if Gruden planned to go to the Raiders all along and asked the Glazers to remain silent so that he could negotiate more money? That would be funny as hell.
January 9th, 2018 at 8:32 am
Another horse being beaten.
January 9th, 2018 at 8:50 am
where is this “better organization” everyone is talking about? If you consider the Glazers to be a liability, baby Davis has to be considered the same with the Raiders. After failing to get a stadium in the longtime home, he came in 3rd place in the race for Los Angeles and then botched his first attempt to move to Vegas. What evidence is there in the time both have been without Chucky that one is a better franchise than the other
On the field The raiders have barely been better than the 80s\90s bucs since they lost that superbowl to us. They have 3 great young talents in Carr and Khalil Mack but the rest of the roster needs to get younger and\or better.
In the end, ownership and talent would not have outweighed the dollars and the roster control assurances. No matter how bad or impatient an owner is, you get paid for 10 years of work. and no matter what is happening with the roster, if you plan to see out your 10 years and control the whole operation, David Carr might be the only player still on the team when the contract is up
January 9th, 2018 at 8:51 am
*2 great young talents
January 9th, 2018 at 8:56 am
Bottom line… Whether Gruden succeeds or fails miserably, THAT MTHRFKR GETS 100 MILLION DOLLARS!!! that’s crazy.
January 9th, 2018 at 9:13 am
Why does everyone have to make everything about Jameis. Man the hate for this kid in this town is so strong. He works his butt off, cares about winning, is a great teammate, is good in the community (if you don’t believe it look it up) and is getting better no matter what anyone says. Despite all of that any article that comes out regardless if it about him or not you will still have 15-20 (at least) comments about how it is his fault. You people kill me and clearly have not seen QB’s play for this team that did not care, were not talented, or did not improve. You have no idea how lucky we are to have a player that wants it so badly and cares so much, that alone should give him the benefit of the doubt, but nope just rip rip rip all day everyday.
January 9th, 2018 at 9:18 am
The Bucs need to be on the lookout for the next Gruden.
January 9th, 2018 at 9:39 am
Ticket sales will be down next year due to the upcoming lack luster season a lot of buc fan have very little to get up about . Team glazers have to make a splash and I mean a big splash . if the upcoming season is what I think it will be we are back in the Culverhouse era and worse
January 9th, 2018 at 9:45 am
@chikster
It can’t be helped if the sheep only get excited for sideshows!!!!!! If they were not excited by the last game of the season, which was DAMN exciting!!!!!! Then we do not need fake fans at RJS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fix the “real” problems!!!!! The Trenches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!
January 9th, 2018 at 9:59 am
^^^^^^^agreed!
January 9th, 2018 at 10:05 am
ndog.. Winston has more weapons the most other teams and yet is at best an average qb. cant connect on the long ball with one of the best receivers in the league. Makes poor decisions on the field and bucs back up qb won 2 games. As far as community goes I agree but _if he gets suspended ,another story.For the 1st pick in the draft he has been passed by with other new qb’s drafted after him.
January 9th, 2018 at 10:06 am
IE Buc Says:
January 9th, 2018 at 3:30 am
Just because Gruden went to the Raiders does not mean Koetter should have stayed. Koetter should have been fired no matter what.
^^BINGO^^
GO BUCS!!!
January 9th, 2018 at 10:07 am
The Buc Realist Says:
January 9th, 2018 at 9:45 am
@chikster
It can’t be helped if the sheep only get excited for sideshows!!!!!! If they were not excited by the last game of the season, which was DAMN exciting!!!!!! Then we do not need fake fans at RJS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL….why wait until the last game of the season to give the fans what we want……a “WIN!!!”…..
the first 15 games are important too!!!!…..someone should’ve told dirk!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
January 9th, 2018 at 10:30 am
Chucky was and IS fabulously wealthy if he quit today and turned down the Raiders contract. I just do not believe money was the driving force. So if the Bucs offered half or only 50 million does that make us understand the decision any better based solely on money?
Chucky has at least three years before he gets fired. In three years what are the odds that either Carr or #3 get injured. What if they’re not even still playing.
As important as QB is to any team…and given Chuckys rep as QB guru…I get the conversations comparing Jameis and Carr but I simply find it hard to believe a man makes a decision based on ONE player in a league where the players get hurt all the time.
I’m sure the QB is a “factor” but I can’t believe that’s the determining factor.
If you’re adding all the “factors”…$$$…CONTROL…you might add the Raiders D…they have some generational talent there.
I just don’t think Chucky fit here. Not saying that in a bad way just an observation. He could only have failed here short of winning another SB.
A lot less pressure in Las Vegas.
January 9th, 2018 at 12:00 pm
$10 million a year is not overpaying a Head Coach. Players are making over twice that much.
January 9th, 2018 at 2:44 pm
@SPBF, i don’t think it was all about money. however, i think he has an opportunity with the money with the Raiders that probably would not exist in Tampa. Despite the denials that he’s getting a piece of the team outright, i bet he can hit certain milestones and use much of that $100 million to buy a piece of the franchise whenever he retires. Al Davis got his stake in the Raiders in a similiar way IIRC, so it makes sense to me that his starstruck son would put that added touch on the deal. I think a pathway to ownership and the promise of something approaching absolute control (which contributed to his downfall here) were 2 difference makers that meant more than the 9 figure contract in the end. But hey, 10 guaranteed years of income is not a bad thing either
January 9th, 2018 at 4:11 pm
Just heard Gruden’s introductory press conference on XM radio. He sounded good…and of course Mark Davis was a giddy little dutch boy. Raiders should be excited…meanwhile The Dirk continues to be an apologist to opponents and limp chimp to the media and therefore fans.