GMC: Get Michael Bennett!
January 4th, 2018
Bucs DT wants him.
Joe doesn’t know what makes him sicker.
Depending on the flavor of morning coffee Joe’s had or the side of the bed Joe wakes up on, he isn’t sure which p!sses him off more, the fact the Bucs let Michael Bennett go for no good reason or the fact the Bucs outright cut a Hall of Fame cornerback in Darrelle Revis.
Both players, not surprisingly, added rings to their wardrobe after Tampa Bay wanted nothing to do with them. The Bucs, in the meantime, continue to wallow in the basement of the NFC South. Sense a pattern here?
Just how many times can a team punch its fans in the face with completely dumb (Joe’s trying to be polite) moves like that which a homeless man in Cleveland would know better to make and expect the same fans to return year after year and willingly cough up hard-earned cash? Talk about a Stockholm Syndrome!
Which brings Joe back to Bennett.
Recently, Bennett offered up that he is of the mind the Seahawks will cut him due to salary cap concerns. Yes, Joe knows Bennett is 32 and injuries are catching up with him, but Joe is still of the mind the Bucs, beyond desperate for anything resembling an edge rush, need to sign Bennett and right a great wrong.
It seems Bucs stud defensive tackle Gerald McCoy agrees. GMC took to Twitter this morning and he is wasting no time in applying a hard sales pitch to get his former teammate back to the Bucs.
If @mosesbread72 is serious about Seattle not wanting him back. I know a former teammate that would love to have him……… 🙋🏾♂️
— Gerald McCoy (@Geraldini93) January 4, 2018
GMC also added cornerback Aqib Talib, who also thinks he will be cut, should “come home” too.
Joe agrees.
Look, Joe is hardly the kind of guy who is dazzled by names and pines for players in the sunset of their careers. But this is how perilous and bottomed out the Bucs are at defensive end and cornerback. Often a guy is available in the NFL for a reason and it often isn’t because he is at the top of his game. But don’t try to tell Joe the Bucs can’t use Bennett.
Sure, Bennett comes with baggage. Yeah, he pulled a con with Vegas cops. Yeah, he’s a kneeler, too. But before you say “Hell no” to Bennett, go look at the absolute, unadulterated, embarrassing trash the Bucs front for an edge rush and try to tell Joe a 32-year old, injured Bennett cannot be an upgrade.
You can’t, unless you are a blind, avowed hater or just too stoned to think straight. That’s how disgusting the edge rush is for the Bucs.
And for the fool who slapped his palm on the conference table at One Buc Palace and decided gun-totin,’ guitar-strumming, CFL-slumming Da’Quan Bowers was an upgrade from Bennett should never, ever have anything to do with a fantasy football team decision much less have any input into building an NFL roster.
January 4th, 2018 at 11:33 am
We need to go absolutely nuts in FA.
January 4th, 2018 at 11:34 am
No…like Joe a Rachael….you can never go back….it is a young mans game for the most part…sign Bennett and 365 days from now….endless comments on why’d we sign Bennett….a good GM and staff should be finding diamonds in the rough….not fat cats looking for a NFL Golden Parachute….
January 4th, 2018 at 11:37 am
bennett is too old no pass
January 4th, 2018 at 11:38 am
“Joe is hardly the kind of guy who is dazzled by names and pines for players in the sunset of their careers”
?????? was roddy white a spring chicken then!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 4th, 2018 at 11:39 am
Hell no
January 4th, 2018 at 11:48 am
If fans dont want a proven pass rusher bc hes a “kneeler”, then they’re idiots. Not wanting a pass rusher bc they threw a woman on a bed full of assault rifles, saying he was going to kill her….now that’s an acceptable reason not to want someone. I’d rather have a DL full of “kneelers” over “real patriots” like Swaggy Baker, Ayers and Gholston.
January 4th, 2018 at 11:49 am
NOOOOOO leave this POS on the left coast and trade GMC for some picks this team needs to be totally blown up and build correctly
January 4th, 2018 at 11:49 am
After I saw Bennett be a classless POS tackling that centers legs on the QB kneel down vs the Jags and the ensuring fight I had a feeling he isn’t the type you want in your Locker room. Wasn’t this guy the most vocal about Sciano making the Bucs tackle at the end of the game when Bennett was here too?!?
January 4th, 2018 at 11:49 am
Please have some integrity as a team and stay away from this cancer. He is a liar. See Vegas. Also see his completely dirty hit against the Jags where he tried to injure the player’s knee at the end of the game. Please don’t give me any excuses for his conduct as a person or a player. One of the best things this team did was not re-signing this guy.
January 4th, 2018 at 11:50 am
Me…you are unprincipled …
January 4th, 2018 at 11:50 am
Joe
The ship has sailed on both players……we don’t need another fatty baker or smoky ward….
We need younger or up and coming productive players.
January 4th, 2018 at 11:51 am
Thank you.
January 4th, 2018 at 11:52 am
I would love to see some defensive help in free agency but over the past 5 or 6 years our free agents haven’t really worked out. So a little nervous about free agent and the salary cap. However a quitter never win so the bucs have to keep going just be careful. GO BUCS
January 4th, 2018 at 11:54 am
And how has the current defensive coaching staff fared developing young DEs and corners?
Vernon Hargreaves and Noah Spence would like to know.
January 4th, 2018 at 11:59 am
Bring him on! Just do it if possible…and why not bring in Talib? Good lord people, are you not seeing it????????
I agree Joe!!!!! The youngens ain’t working out, let’s bring in experience and badazzes!!!
January 4th, 2018 at 12:02 pm
well, if licht signed talib and Bennett, you cant say he isn’t trying to win now….
I would rather go after ziggy or d.lawerence at DE and Malcolm butler at CB….GO BUCS!!!!
January 4th, 2018 at 12:04 pm
NO NO NO ANOTHER CANCER FOR THE LOCKER ROOM
January 4th, 2018 at 12:07 pm
813bucboi – EXACTLY! Butler and lawrence need the private jet treatment. Fly their asses around until they agree to a contract. Draft Key in the first round too. If we can add those three pieces to the defense, retain Grimes and Evans builds on what he did this year our defense will immediately take a giant step forward.
No excuses from coaches and front office. You need to go all in to compete this year or pack your bags.
January 4th, 2018 at 12:09 pm
Bucs fans sometimes!!! You guys are hilarious with the “no-kneeler” stuff. Why do you bother watching the game?
Look, there’s no way we can cure every ill on this team through the draft and with PREMIUM FAs. It just isn’t going to happen. The Bucs HAVE to sign players like a Michael Bennett to bridge the gap so that the youngsters develop. I mean, how many d-linemen come in their rookie year and go off? The percentages show not that often. Besides, we’ve seen guys like Julius Peppers and Dwight Freeney wreak absolute havoc on teams in their 30’s.
Yes, you want younger players but we have more holes to fill than swiss freakin’ cheese: DE(2), DB(2), S, OT, C, G, RB…..
Free agents have to WANT to come here! And rookies? Everybody know it’s a roll of the dice. Our needs exceed our resources.
January 4th, 2018 at 12:09 pm
C’mon joe…..You where crying for roddy white 2 years ago, matt forte this year among some others i cant think of but i get your point. Bennett would be an up grade and those who cries about him kneeling are idiots. He lied they say. So what? Its not like he is running a country and lying everyday. Oh i forgot, that type of lying is okay to the “patriots” on this thread.
January 4th, 2018 at 12:19 pm
We need to build a D line that can last, one for the future. No more old band aides. If McCoy wants to play with Bennett, he’s free to do so somewhere else too. McCoy should no longer be part of our future plans.
January 4th, 2018 at 12:23 pm
So we need more cancers in the locker room other than GMC?
January 4th, 2018 at 12:24 pm
I am fine with always carrying a several veterans with several younger players in all groups of the team. I am fine with signing Grimes, Bennett and Talib if possible.
I would rather have Bennett than Baker.
As long as we keep bringing in young talent then I see nothing wrong with using veterans to bridge the gap.
Baker to Stevie T
Ayers to Spence
Conte to Evans
Jackson to Godwin
what’s his name blocking TE to Howard and Auclair.
Fitz to Jameis
etc
There is a consistency with Litch ad he does understand veteran knowledge being passed down to rooks and young players.
If we keep adding good young talent eventually a team does not need to be over active in FA. The Steelers rely on their own veterans to teach the young players.
Let Litch keep drafting, the roster is growing.
January 4th, 2018 at 12:24 pm
If you can’t win with what you have, then you need different folks. We ALL know the definition of insanity……
January 4th, 2018 at 12:27 pm
Winning fixes everything.
No one wants controversies in the Locker room, but when you are winning those controversies do not get as much traction in the media compared to the W’s on sundays.
Give me players who get me wins and the baggage will go away.
January 4th, 2018 at 12:30 pm
Now hear this to all TrumpMaxcon Lovers…there is no cancer in the locker room…each Coaching Staff change from Ciach Toes On The Line to Coach K has failed to produce a pass rushing DE! That you people is not a locker room cancer that is a BACK/STABBING GM problem! TAKE A KNEE…KEEP AMERICA FREE…THE CANCER IS “FAKE”!!
January 4th, 2018 at 12:33 pm
Dam Joe, I know it’s been rough being a Buc’s fan for the last 10 years, but you are acting crazy desperate!
Bennett is a POS, albeit a fairly productive one.
The Vegas incident is still fresh in my mind and I call total BS on his racist slant.
Didn’t he also start crying about his contract in Seattle when someone else got paid more?
He’s proven to be way more trouble than he’s worth.
GMC’s endorsement is a joke.
We need a complete rebuild of the DL and that needs to be done with new HUNGRY players.
Please stop living in the past.
Go Bucs!
January 4th, 2018 at 12:39 pm
Bennet would just alienate more fans when attendance and interest is already low.
January 4th, 2018 at 12:43 pm
How exactly is Michael Bennett a “cancer in the locker room?”
Unless Joe is missing something, Seattle has been one of the NFL’s best teams for years. Played in two Super Bowls. How exactly has Bennett blown up the Seahawks. He’s hardly Muhammad Wilkerson or Swaggy Baker.
January 4th, 2018 at 12:43 pm
This certainly makes for good robust debate while we watch the (Buc-Less) playoffs. I think there are arguments on both sides. The most reliable bet for landing a good FA is a young guy coming from a team that has salary-cap issues.There have been many 32+ players who have played well and were worth every dime, there are players who get that big paycheck and stop playing well, there are players who just don’t fit the new teams scheme, and there are FA’s who are damaged goods and sit out for a year. I subscribe to the belief that if they are good why hasn’t there team locked them into a new contract. Finally the best way is to build through the draft. FA is a crap shoot, IMO.
January 4th, 2018 at 12:45 pm
I love Bennett’s play, but let’s see who we can get in the draft first and then use free agency.
January 4th, 2018 at 12:46 pm
Real Possibilities
1. Dallas uses the franchise tag on DeMarcus Lawrence
2. Detriot Re-Ups Ezekiel Ansah.
3. Bradley Chubb is off the board at 7.
Then what?
Like I said beggers can’t be choosey.
If Bennett or Talib want to come to Tampa; Sign’em Up
January 4th, 2018 at 12:46 pm
The Buc Realist Says:
January 4th, 2018 at 11:38 am
“Joe is hardly the kind of guy who is dazzled by names and pines for players in the sunset of their careers”
?????? was roddy white a spring chicken then!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
^^^^hahahaha burn Joe. The Roddy White fiasco never forget.
January 4th, 2018 at 12:48 pm
Add Kwon to the list of “bring him back” he just tweeted it Joe…
January 4th, 2018 at 12:49 pm
I agree we need all the good d linemen we can get. Doesnt matter to me if they kneel or lie to cops. I dont look up to these guys. Well except for the rare one here n there, like warrick dunn. We need wins. If we are stuck with mike smith we need linemen bad and fast.
January 4th, 2018 at 12:53 pm
Is Arden Key really that much of a stiff????
January 4th, 2018 at 12:54 pm
Bring back Bennett and Talib. Cut Ayers Baker Gholston, is conte under contract get him outta here keep tandy for depth even tho he sucks. Get rid of evan emith he get crushed in blocking. who else is a huge cap albatross?
January 4th, 2018 at 12:58 pm
@Joe
Arden Key can play, he looks like a bigger Leonard Floyd to me. Can he play the run ?
January 4th, 2018 at 1:00 pm
Great player, but due to has zero class. No thank you!
January 4th, 2018 at 1:01 pm
Michael Bennett was not resigned because he was not a Schiano yes man. Now you know why he was not resigned Joe. Stop listening to 30% of the people. The 30% are miserable and seek not but what they can destroy, mostly in the name of a fictitious man in the sky.
January 4th, 2018 at 1:02 pm
@Joe … “look at the absolute, unadulterated, embarrassing trash the Bucs front for an edge rush.” It’s OK Joe to say the name ‘Jason Licht’ in these articles. As in “How on God’s green earth Jason did you think Smitty’s defense was going to win with these group of mediocre talent for a DLine?” Of course, why provide REAL talent when you’ve got Scapegoat Smitty still on the hook.
@Bucsfanman … “there’s no way we can cure every ill on this team through the draft and with PREMIUM FAs. It just isn’t going to happen. The Bucs HAVE to sign players like a Michael Bennett to bridge the gap so that the youngsters develop.” PRECISELY Bucsfanman. Way too many holes to fill, especially on defense, and not enough draft picks or $$$ to do that with. Still, there are a LOT of excellent FAs coming available in 2018, and Licht needs to strategically target certain ones who fit the Bucs’ long-term vision & plan AND target certain others to ‘bridge the gap’ as you say. BTW, please tell me that Jason has a long-term vision & plan.
January 4th, 2018 at 1:05 pm
No way Jose. Get Chubb or Minkah in draft, add another CB later in draft. Get Ziggy Ansah in FA if possible and whoever else may be a FA. I haven’t done the research yet. We have a young core team and we will have to build that core over the next few years. Why is everyone clamoring for an overnight SB? It’s not happening!
Noah Spence is an unfortunate casualty of a faulty shoulder. He was productive otherwise. Vernon Hargreaves has been used incorrectly or the talent was simply over-estimated. It happens. I’m over it. Now, the bigger problem is whether the DC or position coaches are the problem or whether we had a big group of useless players. One does not fix the other. So, we have to address both. All the DBs will play much better once we have an effective DL. So, I’m not ready to cast off Hargreaves as a bust just yet.
The Bucs have to move aggressively to avoid bringing in the culture clash brothers of Talib and Bennett. Can we not be THAT desperate as to go looking for stop gap players? Let’s come to reality for a second. These players aren’t going to be around more than 3 years max. Dirk Koetter is not leading this team past the first round of the playoffs. Are we going to invest heavily financially and at the cost of team chemistry for short-term talent that WILL NOT lead to a SB? FAs can smell the desperation in the air with the Bucs, talented pro-bowlers aren’t going to come cheap especially the 2nd time around. And there is no one on this team big enough to hold those two in check. Not coaches, not players. So, you say sign them to 1 year deals and see what happens. We aren’t going anywhere in 2018. So, what exactly is the grand plan with bringing in players with a checkered past? Hope for the best? I’d rather run hard on players who have talent and fit the culture trying to be built here. Be patient. This is going to be a 2-3 year retooling before we go deep into the playoffs. I’m not at all interested in bringing in older players (again) hoping for them to be model citizens while playing at a Pro Bowl level only to get bounced in the first round of the playoffs. We have a LOT of issues to resolve. 3 has to be more consistent and better at decision making. Running game has to be bolstered. OL and DL need to be retooled. S and CB have to be addressed.
I don’t see this as a single off-season solution to the SB.
January 4th, 2018 at 1:06 pm
Joe,
I think I said he’s a cancer. I never mentioned the locker room. But I think the facts speak for themselves. He is a verifiable liar and he intentionally tried to hurt another player. I’m sorry, but I don’t want to watch that or support that.
PS – I could care less if he stands, or kneels, or stays in the locker room for the anthem. The dude has no integrity in life. That doesn’t sit well with me.
January 4th, 2018 at 1:11 pm
the only thing that worries me about arden key is his passion and love for the game….kid is talented but as a gator fan I got to see him up close and personal and sometimes his engine can run hot and cold…..and he was a little suspect in the run game…he reminds me a little of dion Jordan in terms of work ethic, passion and talent….
chubb on the other hand always plays with a high motor from the games I’ve watched….played the run well…
with that said, i’ll be happy with either…lol….GO BUCS!!!!
January 4th, 2018 at 1:14 pm
You can’t, unless you are a blind, avowed hater or just too stoned to think straight.
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Hey I resemble that remark! Not nice Joseph!
Here’s what your missing it’s not that the FA DEs we have or have had recently it’s not that they can’t play they just aren’t really into you.
Exhibit A: George Johnson in 3 years with the Bucs 0 sacks. In 2 games with the Saints 2.5 sacks.
Plus when we do find a diamond we release said diamond aka Howard Jones udfa with 5 sacks his rookie yr. cut and released his 2nd yr bc we draft Spence who had 5 sacks his rookie year.
The Bucs beat themselves regularly and we’re the blind, stoned, haters, go figure!
January 4th, 2018 at 1:15 pm
No thanks. He’s dirty and is easy to anger (see the end of Super Bowl 49 and the game vs Jaguars this year), he’s a diva/distraction (see Vegas incident and anthem protests), and he’s old and will demand close to 10 mil due to position and need at DE. We’d be better off going after Ansah/Lawrence/Irving in FA and then best DE available in round 1.
January 4th, 2018 at 1:16 pm
“Kneeler” = racist if he’s actually educated on why he’s kneeling. Open racists like him, Kaep, and Riley Cooper have no business being employed in business in such a public eye. Then there’s the ignorant/naive like Evans who appear to be kneeling because they think it’s cool to be part of something.
We should have never let Bennett go. It’s too late now though now that we know who he is. As for Revis, that was a terrible mistake to begin with. Giving up a 1st round pick just to rehab a guy is just sad.
January 4th, 2018 at 1:18 pm
Seattle is not cutting Bennett.
They would have to absorb a $5.2M dead cap hit and Bennett’s total compensation is only $3.2M more than that at $8.4M in 2018.
If Bennett did somehow get released and would be willing to come here in the $5M per year range (maybe as high as $6M) – I’d sign him to a 2 year deal with 1/2 guaranteed in 2018.
The Bucs can’t free agent their way out of this DL mess though. Gotta commit serious draft resources to both lines over the next 2 years.
January 4th, 2018 at 1:18 pm
When did Joe suddenly approve of “kneelers”?
Joe used to obnoxiously refer to kneelers as “troop grave pisssers”
Guess things change when your team’s superstars follow suit.
January 4th, 2018 at 1:19 pm
@ espo
Racists? Please. What are you a child?
January 4th, 2018 at 1:20 pm
Agreed LUV. The thruth is:
We shouldn’t have to ‘GET’ Bennet.
Because he never should have been let go.
Another genius move by the pop star to help set this franchise back Years and years. Thanks again Dom!
January 4th, 2018 at 1:23 pm
And so the “racist” diatribe begins! SMH!
Only in Mur-a-cuh!
January 4th, 2018 at 1:25 pm
“Joe Says:
January 4th, 2018 at 12:53 pm
Bradley Chubb is off the board at 7.
Is Arden Key really that much of a stiff????”
I’m curious of Luv’s opinion on this as well since he’s one of my favorites for opinions on the draft here.
From what I’ve read – Key could end up testing out like a Myles Garrett and push Chubb for the top DE spot.
The concern with Key is he’s only played heavy 1 year and has had some injuries. But he probably has the most upside of any DE in the draft.
I’d much rather have a proven reliable DE like Chubb; but I could live with a guy like Key if he checks all the boxes.
To LUV’s other point – it is a very real possibility the DE market is weak. We may need to just take whatever we can get – including Michael Bennet.
We have to come out of FA addressing the D-line / O-line / CB / S positions; and possibly RB. We have like $60-70 mill in space; and will likely free up a good amount more with cuts. We should be able to land like 2-3 stud FAs; and 2 depth role players; while extending some of our own in terms of cap space – but we still need guys that want to play here.
January 4th, 2018 at 1:26 pm
Looks like GMC wants to load up on “old” players around him again
January 4th, 2018 at 1:31 pm
We should have never cut them in the first place. Fans have to stop letting the players personal life overshadow what they do on the field. I’m pretty sure 99% of fans aren’t saints either
January 4th, 2018 at 1:35 pm
Yeah, he’s a kneeler, too. – If this bothers you, the whole 1st Amendment does too.
January 4th, 2018 at 1:35 pm
Espo is an idiot.
January 4th, 2018 at 1:38 pm
I guess in your eyes I am in idiot Joe, because I don’t want the Bucs to sign that guy.
I’ll be done with the Bucs if they do.
Not only is the guy anti-American but he also lied about his experience with police officers in Las Vegas and acts like an idiot on the field (see Seahawks vs Jags 2017).
January 4th, 2018 at 1:43 pm
SUBTRACTIONS:
cut/release
d.martin
c.baker
tj ward
sweezy
trade:
GMC
ADDITIONS THRU THE DRAFT:
B.Chubb-1st round-DE
D.Guice or R.Jones-2nd round-RB
T.Bryant-3rd round-DT/DE
BPA @ G/C-4th round
BPA @ S/CB-5th round
BPA @ T/G-6th round
BPA @ DE/DT-7th round
ADDITIONS THRU FA:
G- X’avier Su’a Filo
RB- Jeremy Hill
DE- Ziggy or D.Lawerence
DE- Kony Ealy or Aaron Lynch
CB- Malcolm Butler
DT- Bennie Logan
S- Eric Reid
should win at least 10 games with those additions!!!!!!…..GO BUCS!!!!
January 4th, 2018 at 1:47 pm
I would rather they get Ziggy Ansah.
January 4th, 2018 at 1:59 pm
Pablo says that any palyer that takes a knee deserves to not be on a roster. If he takes a knee before the game them what’s to stop him from taking a knee during the game if hees to tired.
January 4th, 2018 at 2:01 pm
Pablo says that any palyer that takes a knee deserves to not be on a roster. If he takes a knee before the game them what’s to stop him from taking a knee during the game if hees to tired.
January 4th, 2018 at 2:05 pm
LC
If you draft Keys you got Kwon, Beckwith and Keys together. That might be cool.
If Chubb is gone I’m spending my #7 on Nelson at guard or Orlando Brown at Tackle. (6’8″ 365)
January 4th, 2018 at 2:36 pm
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bucboi813,
We have TWO 6th round picks this year.
Also, I like your plan … but I’d seriously considering trading down with the Dolphins as I think they may want their new QB in this draft … if Chubb is available at #7, fine, but if not, we could trade down and still maybe get Key or Ferrell … or QUENTEN NELSON and add a 2nd and 3rd round pick which we could really use.
Also … if the team signs Jeremy Hill in free agency and has Hill/Barber/Quizz/Simms … I doubt they’ll spend a draft pick on a RB at all, let alone a 2nd rounder though I am a huge Derrius Guice fan!
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January 4th, 2018 at 2:36 pm
If your looking for leaders, accountability and hard working guys that will push your team over the top I think those two guys will provide that especially talib. I can see him talking team all training camp when Winston tries to throw Mike Evans way. Talib will push Winston and they would give this soft team the edge they need, something rookies can’t give the bucs
January 4th, 2018 at 2:46 pm
Nut
Ferrell we haven’t had any luck with Clemson DEs it’s a sore subject.
January 4th, 2018 at 2:54 pm
NFLNUT
if chubb is gone I would also consider a trade down if a dominate Olineman is still on the board….
regarding our RB situation, even tho I like quiz I would release him if we were able to get j.hill…..guice/barber/hill/sims would be lovely…..GO BUCS!!!!
January 4th, 2018 at 2:59 pm
would have a hard time routing for this guy after the Vegas stunt.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:00 pm
[Yes, really. You nor anyone else is going to turn this thread into what you are trying. There are plenty of websites where you can take that nonsense Joe is confident; just not here. — Joe]
January 4th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
Bennett will be getting released for a reason. Production off and age. As for kneeling?I’ve typed it before and will type it gain. NOT a good look in a military town. MacDill AFB ring a bell?
I don’t think it’s a realistic possibility or that it will happen.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:04 pm
DB55
is Orlando brown projected to be a G or T at the next level?….I watched him vs UGA and he looked pretty good….not sure if he’s worth the #7 pick….I wouldn’t be mad tho….if he cant cut it at T, kick him inside to G….
imagine:
O.Brown-LT-6’8
D.Smith-LG-6’6
A.Marpet-C-6’4
X. Su’a Filo-6’3
D.Dotson-6’9
every single one of those line strengths are run blocking!!!!….big nasty maulers!!!!….but like you, WTFDIK…..GO BUCS!!!!
January 4th, 2018 at 3:06 pm
@joe the way I see it Joe is if you get Bennet and Talib Grimes will fall.get those 3 guys a contract and this Defense will ball out next year.not to mention if we draft DE Barkley in the draft.what the hell do you want young players for at this moment?Evans is due a Huuuuge contract soon,Jameis is on his 3rd yr going 4th,GMC is getting old,Kwons contract is coming up.WE DONT HAVE TIME TO WASTE TO DEVELOP YOUNGLINGS!TAMPA BAY FANS WANT A RING AND WE WANT IT ASAP!not 4yrs from now cause that’s how long you will have to wait for these younglings y’all want to develop!
January 4th, 2018 at 3:06 pm
Explain to me how he isn’t racist.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:09 pm
Joe, I don’t understand why you continually advocate for the Bucs to re-sign Michael Bennett who is a race baiting idiot that falsely accused Las Vegas Police Officers of assault which was quickly disproved when the video of the arrest came out. In addition, he is a huge Kapernick supporter and anti-America kneeler. The Bucs need to improve their pass rush but they can do better than sign an anti-white race baiter who also hates the police and America in general!
Maybe the Bucs saw his character flaws years ago which is why they let Bennett go “for no good reason.”
January 4th, 2018 at 3:09 pm
Here’s the thing about that video you linked to Jos, it doesn’t show any of the time when he was on the ground being handcuffed, which was the main part of Bennet’s “story”. Now we see once he’s at the car the cops are definitely being pretty respectful, and Bennet thanks them and shakes hands at the end.
The whole thing is just so damn weird. I don’t know what would cause someone to make that kinda stuff up. I’d like to see the bodycam footage of when he was apprehended and being cuffed on the ground, personally.
But regardless of all that, Bennet should have never went to Seattle in the first place. I wouldn’t mind him coming back, but the truth is we need to add at least 3 defensive ends to our roster, plus a tackle or 2. And we need some young guys at these positions too.
Lots to do this offseason.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:10 pm
people tripping over kneeling….lol….
I doubt any NFL player kneels this up coming season because their message has been heard and the NFL has sunk millions into the cause and has also worked with players and law makers to stop social injustice….
they had a plan…executed it…and it worked to perfection….
safety Eric Reid is a great player and also a “kneeler”….are we going to pass on him too!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
January 4th, 2018 at 3:10 pm
I’m with Pick on this… Seattle would make no sense to release him in 2018. Coming off of an 8.5 sack season, he has an 8.3 mil cap hit but 5.5 mil of dead cap if released. Unless Seattle is going total rebuild mode and wanting to save real money, releasing him makes little sense. Especially with what happened with Malik McDowell. MM was a risky player to begin with, but add in an ATV accident and a bar arrest, its hard to think he would be a big part of the future. Dumping Bennett to save 2.8 mil in salary cap doesn’t make a ton of sense.
If you are really looking for a cap casualty from Seattle look at Richard Sherman first. 2.2 mil dead cap with a total cap hit of 13.2 mil..
January 4th, 2018 at 3:11 pm
@Joe & LC
DE/OLB – Arden Key (Late 2016/2017)
• Suspended for academics reasons or failed multiple drug test
• Took leave of absence for undisclosed personal issues
• Shoulder Surgery
• Returned to the team 40 pounds overweight
Review the Tape || Arden Key (LSU EDGE) vs Miss St – 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HlvavoC6UU
January 4th, 2018 at 3:11 pm
Suspended for academic reasons or failed multiple drug test
January 4th, 2018 at 3:12 pm
El:
Joe is not even trying to say Bennett and Talib are even close to being at their peak. But if you didn’t know their age/names/baggage and watched their play, then watch the Bucs DEs/corners (not named “Grimes”) there is no possible way one could argue Bennett/Talib are worse than what the Bucs have.
Joe is all about developing young talent through the draft. Tell Joe, anyone, who exactly who has this current defensive coaching staff developed at corner or defensive end? The two best corners the Bucs have are seasoned vets. You could argue the young guys (Ryan Smith, Vernon Hargreaves, Noah Spence) got worse or at least plateaued.
If folks believe the Bucs can immediately improve (as in 2018) at defensive end and corner by staying away from productive, albeit aging vets, and go with the rookies, you are a bigger gambler than Joe ever will be.
Now if there is a shakeup in coaches in the secondary with guys with a proven resume to develop a corner, that’s a whole different story.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:13 pm
Bennett would be a gift and can play. Unless you don’t care about winning next year, you can’t refuse talent at this point.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:17 pm
Arden Key = Randy Gregory
January 4th, 2018 at 3:22 pm
When the U.S. Armed Forces puts out an official statement condemning kneelers and discontinues paying the NFL millions in advertisement dollars, then the melting snowflakes might have grounds for their argument.
I’ve seen just as many military veterans support kneelers as oppose. It’s a matter of opinion, not patriotism. Why people are so offended by peaceful protest, I’ll never be able to understand.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:24 pm
Also, keep your eyes on the flag and stop watching the kneelers! If you’re not standing full attention, you’re being bigoted.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:24 pm
Band-aid free agent pickups hardly ever work.. just draft an elite end this year and trade up if you have to
January 4th, 2018 at 3:29 pm
Espo: is not a child …he act like a damn foolish fool! Taking a knee = racist…what an ass-hat!!
January 4th, 2018 at 3:29 pm
@ ESPO
Give us an example of Michael Bennett being a racist.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:31 pm
Unrestricted free agency didn’t begin as we know it until 1992
And since then numerous so called “patch work” free agents, have catapulted teams into the Playoffs/Super Bowl.
Just gotta find the right fit.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:33 pm
—> HowToSpellRhonde <--- LOL Well done!
January 4th, 2018 at 3:36 pm
@ Blade Runner
I could not have said it any better than you.
The only thing I will add is that despite being an avid Bucs fan my whole life if the Bucs bring in a player like Bennett I will no longer support the Bucs.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:37 pm
LUVMYBUCS Says:
January 4th, 2018 at 3:17 pm
Arden Key = Randy Gregory
I said dion Jordan…I believe Key falls somewhere in the middle which is never good…GO BUCS!!!
January 4th, 2018 at 3:45 pm
its absolutely hilarious when a “fan” says:
-if the bucs do this i’ll no longer support them….or
-if the bucs do that, im done with the bucs….
LOL…BS…its your right….unlike those that feel that way, I respect your feelings and beliefs….GO BUCS!!!!
January 4th, 2018 at 3:45 pm
the now-32-year-old bennett can take over the Robert Ayers role of mouthy, overpaid veteran with rapidly declining ability. so glad we have an option to cover that important locker room element.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:49 pm
I remember back in ’07 when everyone was griping about how the NYG invested too much into their defensive line. They ended up having one of the meanest rotations in this generation and took down Brady TWICE because they were pummeling him to the dirt with fresh bodies. Look at Jax… Campbell, Fowler, Yngokwe, Dareus, Malik Jackson. All of a sudden they have a mean defense in the playoffs. It’s really not rocket science.
Sign Bennett if he wants to come. We need a little bit of nasty up in here for f*cks sake.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:49 pm
@LUV, Randy Gregory is the exact comp I had in mind for Key. He scares me and not in a good way.
January 4th, 2018 at 3:51 pm
813 Jordan is a good comp too. The result is the same: pass.
January 4th, 2018 at 4:08 pm
This is driving me crazy. So many comments and posts keep saying we need a single beast DE.
How mantimes has that worked for the Bucs?
The Bucs need to revamp both lines with at least 8 new faces to battle the incumbents, improve the starting lineup, and bolster the depth.
Fix the trenches, fix the Bucs.
January 4th, 2018 at 4:12 pm
I could get behind a short time deal for Bennett so long as our first pick in the draft is a DE.
January 4th, 2018 at 4:14 pm
Unless Joe has been repeatedly conned (both on and off the record) over the past two years, the Bucs not only have no desire, but no plans whatsoever to “revamp” the offensive line.
Now of course, the wild card(s) are the injuries to Dotson, Marpet and Sweezy.
January 4th, 2018 at 4:14 pm
The way I see it is this…getting a proven vet is a good idea, because we need a bridge player. So sign him if healthy and draft a young guy.
Of course, don’t sign him if we can get someone better. But at least we know Bennett is a hard worker.
January 4th, 2018 at 4:40 pm
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813bucboi,
I’d love a Guice/Hill/Barber/Sims RB corps as well, no doubt about it.
As for ORLANDO BROWN … he was projected as a 2nd rounder a month or so ago but he’s now being projected to get picked in the 20s … l’ve watched him play and he’s a monster … but it’s as if he’s playing CB and his side of the line is shut off … re-watch that Oklahoma v Georgia game … the Georgia defensive ends don’t even attempt to engage him … they just leave him alone and double rush the LG … it’s weird.
I think he has great potential but I also think he may be surprised by the speed and power of actual NFL DE’s who will go right at him, rather than being scared of him like the college guys were.
I honestly think we’ll end up drafting Chubb at #7 but if we trade down with the Dolphins and get Quenten Nelson plus an additional 2nd and 3rd round pick I sure won’t complain!
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January 4th, 2018 at 4:42 pm
Bennett>Ayers
January 4th, 2018 at 4:47 pm
@Joe … “Unless Joe has been repeatedly conned (both on and off the record) over the past two years, the Bucs not only have no desire, but no plans whatsoever to “revamp” the offensive line.” Oh Lordy I hope you’ve been conned Joe. The OLine we spent most of the year with simply didn’t cut it. Gave up 40 sacks this year, as opposed to 35 in 2016 and 27 in 2015 … all with Ali Marpet & Donovan Smith & Dotson in there (Hint: our OLine is regressing & it’s hurting our offensive production).
Bucs best bet in 2018 IMO would be to get a quality Center AND Left Tackle in free agency and/or the draft, then move Marpet back to RG & put Donovan over at LG. Keep Dotson at RT but let him fight it out with Pamphile (IF we re-sign him). If we can’t find a Center, then Hawley will do just fine for a year or maybe even 2. That’d give us plenty of flexibility on the OLine in the event of injuries, and I’m convinced that Marpet & D. Smith as Guards will would dominate in the run game.
OR … we could let Jason Licht & Dirk Koetter tell us once again how great our OLine is. Until next year when we end up in the NFC South cellar once again.
January 4th, 2018 at 4:47 pm
Nut
Anything is better than Caleb and often injured Dotson. But Caleb will ruin Winston’s career garuntee.
January 4th, 2018 at 4:52 pm
^ I’d be all for trading down to add another 2nd rounder, drafting Quenten Nelson in the 1st, Orlando Brown and Billy Price in the second and then going all-defense after that … an offensive line of Smith/Nelson/Price/Marpet/Brown with a backup 5 of Wester/Pamphile/Hawley/Evan/Dotson would be one of the youngest, best and deepest in the entire NFL. If we do that though, we spend heavy on defense in free agency as well as we need at least one starting quality DE and CB!
January 4th, 2018 at 4:55 pm
Nflnut
Agreed 100% except Hawley, love the guy to death but his knees. He managed this year but he ain’t getting any younger.
January 4th, 2018 at 5:14 pm
Joe has been typing this all year but to no avail: Joe has seen some really horrible offensive lines (Seattle, Denver). The Bucs are not one of them.
Bucs have much, much bigger problems (DE/CB).
January 4th, 2018 at 5:17 pm
@813bucboi,
No to Arden Key for the reasons you listed. Too much risk at #7. I have a feeling his draft stock is going to plummet as it comes closer to the combine and pro days.
Minkah Fitzpatrick, Bradley Chubb, Denzel Ward, Derwin James, Clelin Ferrell, or Quenton Nelson (if these coaches and GM get with reality) – one of which will surely be available at #7. No need to draft Arden Key.
What if Bradley Chubb and Saquon Barkley are available at #7. Would it be a difficult choice for the Bucs? I guess it depends on what happens in the FA market.
January 4th, 2018 at 5:21 pm
Rhonde
Protesting one race being legally put down by police but ignoring the same for another race. It’s racist. Then the very well covered lie about the police to further his racist agenda. Did you forget about that?
January 4th, 2018 at 5:22 pm
Arden Key is also more of a hybrid DE/LB. We have that problem in Noah Spence. We just need an out and out nasty SOB DE. Screw being cute. And I hate the 4-3, 3-4, anything that works defensive scheme. Stick to one (with an occasional switch) but get players that fit that one scheme.
January 4th, 2018 at 5:25 pm
NFLNUT
I agree….NFL players wont be scared….they’ll go right at him or around him if his foot work isn’t up to par…..
after looking at the teams in front of us, it may be tough to get chubb….browns have 2 picks in the top 4 but 4 of the top 7 teams need a QB(browns, giants, broncos, jets)….
-colts could use chubb but may take barkley to pair with m.mack…..
-jets could use chubb….
-browns could use chubb….
-gettleman could take chubb…we all saw him build a dline in CAR….
the only team I see for sure not taking chubb would be the broncos….I pray chubb falls and he turns out to be a dominate DE for years to come….GO BUCS!!!!
January 4th, 2018 at 5:30 pm
Lamb
I like all those players you list….I would be temped to take derwin james because he can play multiple positions(s,nickle,LB)…
if both chubb and barkley are on the board at #7 I hope licht is smart enough to take chubb….that’s a no brainer for me….lots of good backs in the draft….I really like guice and Ronald jones from USC….GO BUCS!!!!
January 4th, 2018 at 5:36 pm
No thanks. The anti-American pro-cop killer scum can stay out west with the rest of the garbage.
January 4th, 2018 at 5:38 pm
Imo the only way you’ll get a dominate dt in this team is to trade for him. No top tier FA is coming to Tampa and even the best rookie may top out at 5 sacks or less.
January 4th, 2018 at 5:45 pm
@Joe … “Bucs have much, much bigger problems (DE/CB).” Agree 100% with that Joe. You could add DT to those DE & CB priorities and I’d be 100% onboard with that too. Still, add just one piece to the OLine puzzle (an experienced LT) and we’ve got the pieces (with a little switching around) to light up the NFC South offensively. Add 7 more points/game & we could be looking at anywhere from a 10-6 to a 12-4 record next year if the defense just treads water.
January 4th, 2018 at 5:46 pm
Def
I think you misspelled RT.
January 4th, 2018 at 6:04 pm
I am afraid I do not trust Licht in free agency this year. After letting Calaias Campbell and Dontari Poe pass us by when we had more money to spend only to bring in Swaggy Baker and re-tread DE’s is all I need to see. #FIRE LICHT!
January 4th, 2018 at 6:10 pm
GMC wants him signed so someone else can finally be blamed for our O line sucking. Too bad Geraldine you can’t run from what you really are!
January 4th, 2018 at 6:58 pm
As Koetter likes to say, you can never have too many good players. If you pay too much for players that are not good however you don’t have enough money left for the good ones.
I believe both Talib and Bennett are past their prime or “great’ years. However I do believe they have enough gas in the tank to be “good” and we need good players.
Show me the money!!! If the price if right I’d love to have both Bennett and Talib and resign Grimes. Draft a couple DE’s and perhaps even a DT…load up on the line.
Certainly if we signed both Grimes and Talib that takes cornerback from the list of major concerns for 2018. Yeah it’s a short term solution but it could be a great solution.
January 4th, 2018 at 7:09 pm
The homeless guy story was hilarious. It reminded me of Dumbnic when he said that he was impressed with Jo Free during a pre-game warm up at KState.
January 4th, 2018 at 7:14 pm
Forget Michael Bennet.. Lets Get Leveon Bell…….. and draft a pass rusher!
January 4th, 2018 at 8:27 pm
Hey @Joe I just noticed something not one person has mentioned thus far in relation to Bennett. Outside of age, cost, and conduct/distraction concerns not one person has mentioned how often he commited penalties this year. He was tied for being the 3rd most penalized player in the league with 12. That’s a bad fit on a team that was heavily penalized this year (I think the Bucs were the 12th most penalized team in the league this season), that to me is either him being too twitchy or not game aware enough.
January 4th, 2018 at 8:30 pm
Joe Says:
January 4th, 2018 at 3:33 pm
—> HowToSpellRhonde <— LOL Well done!
Since ESPO never came back and saw HowToSpell's comment, I will back him up.
I guess Joe forgot the patently RACIST black power salute that Bennet only displayed after tackling white players.
I guess Joe forgot Bennet trying to get mileage out of claiming he was treated badly by police based on his race. Lying to further your own agenda and claiming racism where it is proven it didn't exist–IS RACIST. Pulling da race card to cover your own poor behavior–IS RACIST.
Nice to see Joe thinks it is all a joke enough to gang up against one of his own readers (ESPO) who points these things out. We'll now you can gang up on me, too. Racism apologist.
I wouldn't mind seeing Talib back. He is a man who admitted his mistakes and blames nobody but himself when his behavior affected his career. Bennett is a race-baiter, no matter how much Joe thinks it's all something to LOL about.
January 4th, 2018 at 8:44 pm
Oh yeah, exactly what we need. Two more militant (future) convicts. No thanks. We’ve already had future cons D Jackson and TJ Ward plus “he’s too lazy and unmotivated to not be a pothead and future convict”, Baker.
January 4th, 2018 at 8:49 pm
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!
Talib, yes!
Bennett, NO!!!!
January 4th, 2018 at 10:43 pm
Thanks Lucious. It’s amazing how Bennett isn’t even hiding it, yet people turn a blind eye towards it.
January 5th, 2018 at 12:20 am
I’d rather have a has been (Bennett) than a never was (Ayers)
January 5th, 2018 at 12:56 am
As other said remember when this pro-cop killer anti-American piece of trash lied about what happened to him in Las Vegas and then the cops released the video showing everything he said was a complete 100% made up lie? The guy is garbage and those grouping him with Talib should do me a favor and go jump off the Skyway. Talib got tons of bad press locally when he was accused at shooting at a guy – well then it turns out the guy was a convicted sex offender with a restraining order who violating it to harass his sister. Talib’s only offense is that he missed. Bennett meanwhile is a racist piece of trash who has enough money to leave the country he hates so much yet stays in order to further divide people. He’s garbage and a non-fruit town like Tampa wants nothing to do with piece of trash.
January 5th, 2018 at 1:44 am
Isn’t this what Chucky did, Bring in old guys? Just to see them fall asleep on the field. PASS!
January 5th, 2018 at 3:15 am
@813bucboi,
I like Guice too but I think his stock is rising. Once projected in the 2nd Rd, but I think he’s moved up to lower 1st now.
Bryce Love is another RB I like, but Ronald Jones would be good too.
Check out Tankathon’s current mock. It actually looks kinda realistic from a Buc’s perspective. But, I don’t like the fact that we miss out on Bradley Chubb by one pick. But they’ve mocked 3 rounds so it’s kinda interesting. I think you’ll like the 3rd Rd pick they gave us.
January 5th, 2018 at 1:18 pm
No thanks…if we are going to go 6-10 next year…let’s do it with decent human beings….not 2 guys looking to play out their careers and give no effort
January 5th, 2018 at 3:18 pm
I don’t think such moves would make us worse, so there’s that.
January 5th, 2018 at 3:39 pm
:: complains about soft defense ::
:: doesn’t want mean guys with attitude ::
LOL, only in Tampa!