Thriving “Empty” Offense

December 12th, 2017

Your fighting Buccaneers like to go 5-wide with Charles Sims clearing the backfield.

And, per the stats gremlins at ESPN NFL Matchup, the Bucs are good at it.

In fact, if you keep track of the reams of data cranked out by that show, the Bucs offense is actually darn good at most aspects of the passing game — except scoring.

See the graphic below: the Bucs are seventh best in the NFL at accumulating yardage in a 5-wide set. Interesting to see that five of the six teams ahead of the Bucs have winning records and are firmly in the playoff hunt.

Yes, the Bucs have the necessary weapons. They just haven’t put it all together consistently. It’s the story of the season, “consistently inconsistent,” as offensive coordinator/receivers coach Todd Monken has called it.

24 Responses to “Thriving “Empty” Offense”

  1. D-Rome Says:

    It’s the story of the season, “consistently inconsistent,” as offensive coordinator/receivers coach Todd Monken has called it.

    Consistently inconsistent *is* the Bucs identity.

  2. Lamarcus Says:

    We need a run game and offense can be a whole lot better. There u go offense problem fixed!!

  3. derrickbrooksforGM Says:

    how many turnovers and sacks on those empty sets though? Check that and get back to us tehehehehehehehe

  4. Bucsfanman Says:

    “Consistently inconsistent *is* the Bucs identity.”!!!!!!!!!

    D-Rome drops the mic!

  5. Francisco Menendez Says:

    Third in our own division.

  6. Defense Rules Says:

    My guess is that you define ‘thriving’ Joe as ‘Putting up a lot of yardage’ when it relates to the Bucs’ offense. Most Bucs’ fans would define ‘thriving’ as ‘Scoring a lot of points’. This is anything BUT a ‘thriving offense’. (Must admit however that ‘EMPTY’ fits pretty well in-between those 2 words in describing how many times we’ve come away EMPTY-HANDED in terms of points).

  7. Phil Says:

    The important thing is Heath Evans is off the air.

  8. Capt.Tim Says:

    Buc Stats are monopoly money.
    Sorta looks valuable,
    But its worth Sh*t..

    Great passing stats are useless, if your feature back averages 2.3 yards per carry.
    All the numbers are meaningless- If your QB tosses the ball up for grabs, everytime hes about to be sacked.
    Who cares about the numbers- when most of our “great stats” are all compiled in the second half- when the game is already lost.

    I know everyone is trying to find some kind of hope, out of this trash heap.
    But, its like picking the corn out of said Sh*t.

    Just another embarrassing year to be a Buc Fan

  9. AlteredEgo Says:

    Capt T…is seems there are many anxious corn pickers here…

  10. Crazed Fan Says:

    Screw Gruden!!! Cut Koetter!!!

  11. 813bucboi Says:

    #2 passing offense!!!!…..GO BUCS!!!

  12. darin Says:

    Theyre good at 5 wide sets because they hardly do it. So its actually one thing teams arent expecting them to do much. The rest, as d coordinators around the league have stated, is basic, expected, and easy to defend. The element of surprise in the league is where teams have success. Too bad Dirks not a stats guy, or a preparation guy. His first year here as the OC he used to switch things up alot. I guess now he is too busy trying to figure out when to go for 2 rather than running a productive, surprising offense. Oh well maybe next coach…I mean next year

  13. zzbucs Says:

    Screw Gruden and screw whoever leaked that stupid irresponsable information…… Give Koetter one more year, fire Smitty, and build a good running game ……

  14. Smokingjoebucfan Says:

    Tied w/da Raiders at 26th in rushing pretty much explains alot. If we Would’ve and we could’ve and damn sure should’ve sent 22 up I-75 and outta Florida and drafted a back. Kamara in the 3rd? Running game in N.O. Probably extended Brees’ career by a few years. But yeah any sign of a decent running game this year and we all wouldn’t be as pissed as we are

  15. DBS Says:

    In other words he is trying to use stats again to make it look better than it is. I told this was coming.

  16. lightningbuc Says:

    Digging into the minutiae to polish the Jaboo turd.

  17. McBuc Says:

    Some of you guys must not have read the article, Joe states they do well passing except scoring… he never said that was not important.

    Darin, which DC came out and said the bucs are basic and predictable? I do not think I have heard one say that. I am not saying it is not true, but that would shock me for an NFL coach to state that for the record.

    Capt. Tim… You and I have been around here a long time. it saddens me to see you in the dumps but i get it. Damn this is the most disappointing season I have experienced, and I have been a Bucs fan since they started when I was a little kid.

  18. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Koetter finally called a really good game Sunday…..5 turnovers burnt us or we would have scored at least 38.

    I think the key is passing on 1st down more often…..we are less predictable….one thing I notice is when we hit near the red zone we almost always run on 1st down…..unsuccessfully….that is why we end up going for 3 instead of 7.

  19. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Joe Dirt signed to the active roster.

  20. I'm a Tandyman Bucs Fan Says:

    Hey it’s Barbers Turn Man…..Let him play IRK!!!!!

  21. Roy T. Buford Says:

    Sounds like a show that should be shown in N. Korea for propaganda value…or canceled. I mean, “The Munsters” was good too, but it just wasn’t real.

  22. AlteredEgo Says:

    Nice Christmas bonus for Joe Dirt….big bump from PS pay to active 53

  23. gambelero Says:

    There are a lot of people who use points per game as their measure, but that ignores the pace of play. Magic’s Lakers were often thought of as a “poor defensive team” by the ignorant who cited points per game as their stat of choice. But they played at what was then considered a blistering pace. 100 points a game might seem poor, but the relevant stat is points per possession. In a slow paced game with 80 possessions for each team, allowing 90 points might be bad defense. In a game with 110 possessions, allowing 100 points would be considered good defense.

    The Bucs play at a very slow pace–something that if there’s anything to which Winston and Koetter would agree that they disagree on, that’s it. And their defense is 28th and 31st in yards per drive and points per drive respectively. It’s true though that there is a significant difference between yards per drive (11th) and points per drive (18th). And what causes that? Turnovers in other teams territory, 20 something yard field goals, coaches that make poor fourth down decisions (punting on 4th and 4 from the opponents 39–down 14 points and 4th and 2 from the opponents 41), missing field goals, etc.

  24. Nate Says:

    for that offense spread empty set….its best to have speedy athletic type recievers ……

    I like our recievers but I would classify them as a mixed bag leaning to the tall go up and get it types more than the speedy shifty ….desean and adam types

    and maybe the offense is meant to be a mix but they never had the speed till this year so I believe they were built to be the dunkaneers lol

    so your not gonna lead in this stat and maybe this team doesn’t need too but that’s why the saints lead ….2 things ….accurate qb and shifty speedsters

    and one isn’t THAT face… wonder the saints lead in that category