Chemistry Issues, Chemistry Patience

December 28th, 2017

Sage perspective emerges from Philadephia

Right after spring practices concluded, you may remember that Dirk Koetter sat down with Joe and Ira Kaufman for a long chat on the Ira Kaufman Podcast.

One key thing Koetter said then was how DeSean Jackson, Chris Baker and then-safety J.J. Wilcox would mesh in the locker room and on the field would be a major element to the season. The point was that free agent blending is a great and critical unknown.

Koetter previously had acknowledged that it could take most of a season for Jackson and America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, to really get on the same page. QB-WR chemistry often takes time. Remember, it took a rough 2015 for Jameis and Mike Evans to work things out in 2016.

Well, just a couple months after Koetter’s chat with Joe and Ira, it was clear that Baker was not a fit with his check-please attitude or play. Wilcox was traded for T.J. Ward, who also quickly displayed a questionable attitude and play.

And then there’s Jackson. He simply wasn’t connecting with Jameis on game days, and it appeared to be on the QB.

It happens.

Look at the latest today from the Hall of Fame voter representing Philadelphia, long time beat writer Paul Domowitch, who was responding a fan question about deep passes. The Eagles have been dominant, but it hasn’t been all sunshine in the passing game.

Remember, Jameis injured his shoulder early this season and played through it for a while before shutting down to heal.

Drew Brees, who has a lot of experience with shoulder injuries, talked to Tampa media yesterday about how bum shoulder can affect a quarterback’s timing and all the little things that make a passing game hum.

So it’s really understandable that Jameis and Jackson just need a little patience. Odds are they will click big time next season, especially if they’re in the same offense.

And that brings everyone to the magic question, will Team Glazer prefer to blow everything up and turn the entire franchise over to Chucky, who we all know would have final say over everything?

65 Responses to “Chemistry Issues, Chemistry Patience”

  1. AlteredEgo Says:

    One more year….

  2. tmaxcon Says:

    get rid of cancer93 the undisputed leader of the losing culture and face of the basement years and this team’s chemistry improves dramatically. cancer93 has been celebrating losses for years yet baker smiles and gets torched… no wonder bucs and bucs fans are a laughingstock league wide.

  3. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Chemistry? When you throw a 40 yard pass to a wide open WR and the ball sails out of bounds I think you have an accuracy problem and not a chemistry problem.

  4. I'm a Tandyman Bucs Fan Says:

    Ok guys. We go 9 & 7 in 2016 and with basically the same team one year later we go 4 & 12. The way I see it these Free Agents who played in front of people that helped make it a 9 & 7 season fell on their faces and Smith or Irk neither made any adjustments to change things through 16 games. Swaggy killed us along with Ward who is a me player and Jackson just never got going. To me that is pure plain and simple the Coaching Staffs incompetence and unwillingness for whatever reason to do anything about it. So do you really want people like that leading us again in 2018????

  5. passthebuc Says:

    There are reasons why the buc’s are terrible. I doubt that it takes a year for a new receiver to get on the page with the QB is one of them. Remember these guys are pro bowlers. We can look in all the corners we wish, but in the end we all know what the current problem is. However, the deeper question is how long will the glazers permit it to continue. This years draft will not solve the problem, changing the HC will not solve the problem until the major problem is resolved. A president of football operations with knowledge, followed by a complete makeover.

  6. Lord Corn Says:

    I didn’t see this dude put any effort into tracking the long ball.. he basically didn’t even try unless a pass hit him perfectly in his chest in stride.. 1-2 yards to the left or right or behind and he makes no effort to get to it.. which is 1/2 Of what he’s supposed to be good at. Plenty of his bomb highlights from cousins were poorly thrown balls he adjusted to. I haven’t seen that once this year regardless of Fitz/Winston playing

  7. miken Says:

    He’s not a possession reciever, he has speed and a small frame. If you can’t hit him when he is wide open he won’t be of much use. Deep ball threat with qbs that aren’t good on the deep ball aren’t good matches. Also, Dirk didn’t get him involved enough on quick short slant routes and things of that nature.

  8. Eric Says:

    That is exactly the reason to hire Chucky.

    Someone besides the current clowns in control.

  9. AlteredEgo Says:

    What a bunch of petulant fantasy football fans are following the Buccaneers

  10. Defense Rules Says:

    @Joe … “One key thing Koetter said then was how DeSean Jackson, Chris Baker and then-safety J.J. Wilcox would mesh in the locker room and on the field would be a major element to the season. The point was that free agent blending is a great and critical unknown.” It certainly was an unknown, especially to our GM. JJ Wilcox was probably the least unknown of the three, so Licht traded him for a REAL unknown … a old safety coming off an injury. Baker had a history of not wanting to practice, so Licht snatched him up in a hurry I guess. So much better than actually paying for a REAL DLineman like Calais Campbell (14.5 sacks & 3 forced fumbles) or even retaining Adrian Clayborn (9.5 sacks & 2 forced fumbles).

    DJax is the least of our worries. I thought that with the rise of Chris Godwin, DJax probably wouldn’t be here next year, but now I think he will ($11 mil base salary of which $7.5 mil has already been guaranteed). Baker is a goner, as is TJ Ward, Doug Martin, JR Sweezy & probably Robert Ayers. Given that we have a LOOONG list of pending free agents (such as Grimes, Pamphile, Fitzpatrick, McDonald, Sims, Evan Smith, etc) 2018 will be a critical year for restocking our team. That’ll require an exceptional draft AND many exceptional free agency signings for the Bucs to even rebuild our starting rotations, much less add to our depth. 2017 hasn’t worked out all that well. 2018 doesn’t look that promising either at this point.

  11. Dewey Selmon Says:

    I think if Licht knew they were getting Howard and Godwin in the draft Jackson would of never been signed.

  12. AlteredEgo Says:

    good point Dewey….OJ put their whole draft board upside down

  13. mark2001 Says:

    No one expects a Rodgers/Nelson connection. But honestly Joe…it wasn’t close, and there is no excuse for Jameis and Jackson not connecting. We see guys moving from team to team all the time…and somehow, the great ones seem to get on the same page. Jameis and Jackson never have.

  14. feelthepewterpower Says:

    Dont forget, Jameis hasnt always had a clean pocket to work with pressure constantly in his face. When Jameis is mechanically sound he usually delivers the ball on time with accuracy and velocity. Jackson also needed to get the offense down, as well a lot of the nuances of knowing when Jameis will throw the ball, how far to breeak on a route, etc. the lack of a rubning game has also put a crimp in the passing game.

  15. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I’m a Tandyman Bucs Fan Says
    “Ok guys. We go 9 & 7 in 2016 and with basically the same team one year later we go 4 & 12.”

    I think you need to take a good look at the two rosters. You are making an assumption that just is not the case.

  16. feelthepewterpower Says:

    Jameis is an awesome play action passer and teams havent been resprcting our run game leading to longer down and distances, less biting on play fakes, and lojger dropbacks giving pass rushers more time to set up.

  17. Son of Kobe Faker Says:

    How many games NFL suspension for this hoodlum?

    Im thinking 3

    I hope the Popo dont do finger prints with the bullets and bag of weed

    Son of Kobe Faker

  18. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Here’s my opinion on DJax:

    He knew it would take time to develop that chemistry, yet he still whined about not getting the ball thrown to him enough.

    If he had been patient, maybe Jameis would not have been forcing the ball to him, resulting in holding the ball too long, getting injured, lower numbers and game losses.

    Had they let that chemistry develop naturally, there would have been no problems, because we know Mike Evans would have produced more yards and points than DJax.

    So…the question is this…if DJax whined over it before, what’s he going to do when Jameis says screw it and starts throwing more to Evans more again?

    DJax is a cancer…plain and simple.

  19. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    On the bright side…if a suspension is handed out for the whole weed thing, I think that voids any guarantees on his contract.

  20. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    “get rid of cancer93 the undisputed leader of the losing culture and face of the basement years and this team’s chemistry improves dramatically. cancer93 has been celebrating losses for years yet baker smiles and gets torched… no wonder bucs and bucs fans are a laughingstock league wide.”


    I’m sorry, I thought this article was about Jameis and Jackson? Command + V is just too much of a habit I guess.

  21. AlteredEgo Says:

    DJax….he may go…remember early in the year when someone TOLD him….he came here to play for the MONEY….so there were undercurrents of player attitude from day one with jackoff

  22. 813bucboi Says:

    its coaching and play calling….send dirk packing!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!

  23. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I said:
    “If he had been patient, maybe Jameis would not have been forcing the ball to him, resulting in holding the ball too long, getting injured, lower numbers and game losses.”

    Let me add, if Jameis had not been holding the ball so long while trying to connect with DJax, the offensive line would not have suffered so many injuries either.

    Never mind that DJax was supposed to be so fast that Jameis was not supposed to need to hold the ball so long (that was a deception, wasn’t it?)

  24. AlteredEgo Says:

    You are thinking of Lovie

  25. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    813bucboi Says
    “its coaching and play calling…”

    I will say this…Jon Gruden would not put up with any lip from a WR. He would have shut that down within a day and told him he would get the ball when the time was right for it. Period.

    But Gruden is very confrontational. Koetter is a thinker.

    Koetter is a great coach though…so I don’t agree with sending him packing…this year. I want him to have one more year to prove himself (and for Licht to try to fix the defense).

  26. Mike Johnson Says:

    I do think Jameis needs to concentrate on accuracy with his long ball during the off season. He’s thrown to Jax many times..either out of reach or out of bounds. And if you say you have not seen it then YOU..are not watching Buc ball. There is nothing wrong with DJax. Other QB’s have gotten the ball to him, Why can’t We?

  27. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Here’s an idea…bring in Gruden for a role like Elway has.

  28. D-Rome Says:

    Hey Joe, can you please ban the IP address of the racist commenting here.

  29. Jack Haydon Says:

    Yep, keep the coaches. bring in some new blood, fix the problems and let’s go to the playoffs next year.

  30. Son of Kobe Faker Says:

    “Some posters have been smoking that weed!”


    Klueless will be out of the league forever in a week and the Buc Sheep think he is a genius!


    Son of Kobe Faker

  31. AlteredEgo Says:

    Interesting BB…Prez of foooball opz

  32. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    AlteredEgo Says
    “Interesting BB…Prez of foooball opz”

    Yeah…the only issue is whether Gruden can accept that role. I suspect he misses coaching a lot.

  33. AlteredEgo Says:

    BB…you can never go back to glory days in life…of course it is tempting but Gruden has not lost a game since he left the Bucs….nice legacy….no headaches…

  34. I'm a Tandyman Bucs Fan Says:

    Thanks Buccaneer Bonzai I will take a look and get back to you. Thank you

  35. Skyline Crew Says:

    D.J. is bad for the locker room. It has been all about him this season and it isn’t working. Time for something new. Whether that new something is Gruden coming back, drafting a QB for competition with J.W., drafting a 3 down RB, or drafting a bull for the DL, it doesn’t matter. Something needs to happen and we need some playmakers.

    Just like those who cried that we didn’t pick up AP, I’m glad we didn’t. He didn’t do anything and provided nothing to either of his teams this year.

    I’ve seen the latest Mock Draft (I know, they don’t matter) has us taking Minkah Fitzpatrick. Hopefully we can get a shot at Saquon Barkley, but will see later next year where things start to pan out. Also, if Gruden came back that’d be nice. At least he would light a fire under these guys arses and get in their faces.

  36. cmurda Says:

    I’m almost buying into the several commenters who are clamoring for us to keep Koetter but then I watch the games. I can’t buy it. I’ve seen too many stupid playcalls especially in the red zone, too many personnel mistakes, too many times we lacked guts going for it on 4th down and wasting timeouts that burned us when we needed them. This all falls on our head coach. Our defense was abysmal under Mike Smith. Everyone wanted Mike Smith while me and DB55 were hoping that he landed a head coaching gig elsewhere. I’ve defended Licht. I do think Licht has drafted well. The move that drives me crazy was bringing in Mike Smith to run this defense instead of Jim Schwartz. Schwartz has run several solid defenses while Mike Smith hasn’t done shat with his defenses. I just can’t want more of the same. I’m okay if Licht stays but I can’t in my heart wish for Koetter to stay.

  37. AlteredEgo Says:

    good post cmurda….complex indeed…

  38. GhostofSchiano Says:

    Dewey Selmon Says:

    I think if Licht knew they were getting Howard and Godwin in the draft Jackson would of never been signed.


  39. Son of Kobe Faker Says:

    ^Schwartz needs a great front 4 for his defensive schemes to work

    he hardly ever blitzs and depends fully on just the front 4 to bring the pressure

    he knows that and would have never agreed to come to tampa

    I spend have the time on the northeast and was raised a philly fan

    winston with gruden will be better than wentz next year

  40. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    January 15th, 2016 at 6:07 am ←

    Concerning Mike Smith

    Ask yourself – Why would you want to hire Smith as the new DC

    When the moment he was fired – Atlanta asked permission to interview former Cardinals defensive coordinator Todd Bowles and Lions defensive coordinator Teryl Austin? Finally settling on Seahawks DC Dan Quinn.

    Because Smith couldn’t field a tough, physical Defense

    One of Arthur Blank’s biggest complaints-The last 3 yrs under Coach Smith.
    Was that his team wasn’t tough enough.
    That’s the guy you want – running the defense?

    More Here:

  41. Cover Deuce Says:

    I just don’t think it’s wise to rush into the Gruden thing the more it gets talked up. The more I think about it, the more this just feels like a better version of ownerships Lovie Smith nostalgia play. I’m not in it for nostalgia – I remember all too well Grudens middling offenses, and the way he and Bruce Allen ran the roster into the ground with so many over-the-hill free agents. Maybe things are different, maybe he’s changed, but I think he’s still gonna want total control when ink meets paper. And if that’s the case then I’d prefer he cash his checks elsewhere. Get a head coach who is a head coach – not a GM/HC/OC combo deal. That’s a disaster waiting to happen in my opinion.

  42. derrickbrooksforGM Says:

    um this is on Jameis, he can’t make those throws. It’s not his game style. Another dumb pick up by Licht.

  43. Locked In Says:

    Jameis set another record for quarterbacks – first one ever to overthrow DJax

    Maybe the weed is slowing him down

  44. Skyline Crew Says:

    -Cover Deuce

    I understand what you are saying and I completely agree. I don’t think Gruden should get complete control. I do think that he has learned from his current position. I think that would be very beneficial to the team. Maybe that does come from him being Prez of Opz or something and not HC, but I think Tampa needs him in some capacity. Just the fire he brings would be an upgrade to the team.

  45. Reach87 Says:

    Djax is a cancer? You don’t know what you are talking about. No clue it’s ridiculous. Contrary words from the head coach and play caller. Be careful of your words and characterizations lest you lose credibility. Morons pick up on that garbage, repeat it as fact, and it hurts the TEAM.

  46. AlteredEgo Says:

    Wow…a lot of turnover in screen names from LUVMYBUCS hotlink….

  47. not there yet Says:

    Depends on what you want, if you think after a decade of high draft that it’s the players you want to keep dirk.

    I’m not a big GMC fan and I like how larger than life Warren Sapp was but the biggest difference between the two is Sapp had Dungy and Chucky, GMC had Raheem, dirk, Schiano and Lovie. Coaching makes all the difference which is why dirk is the reason this team can’t Excel at this point in time. Jackson and Winston will click regardless of what offense they run.

  48. Defense Rules Says:

    @cmurda … “Mike Smith hasn’t done shat with his defenses. I just can’t want more of the same. I’m okay if Licht stays but I can’t in my heart wish for Koetter to stay.” I’d agree with you 100% cmurda … IF it wasn’t for 2016. Smitty came in as a new DC, taking over a defense that had been ‘revised’ by Lovie & Licht into a Tampa 2 style defense. Many of the personnel didn’t fit his defense philosophy. He needed that strong DLine to put pressure on opposing QBs & to provide a solid run defense, much like the Panthers depend on. Took 8 games for Bucs’ D to finally ‘get it’ but once they did (2nd half of 2016) they played excellent defense. According to Jenna Laine: “In the final eight games of the season, when they went 6-2, they allowed an average of just 17.13 points per game, fourth in the league. Their defense led the league in defensive touchdowns (three), interceptions (13) and takeaways (18), and they finished the season with the league’s best third-down defense, allowing just 34.4 percent conversions.” That’s pretty impressive.

    So what happened in 2017? Did Smitty forget how to coach? Did the Bucs’ defense quit on him? Not hardly. Tougher schedule? Somewhat. Injuries to key defensive players? Somewhat (especially Noah Spence going on IR). Several decent performers not re-signed and replaced by aging veterans? To a degree (McDougald was improving steadily … replaced by TJ Ward; Akeem Spence holding his own … replaced by Baker). Several returning defensive starters not performing as hoped? Most definitely (especially VHIII & Will Gholston).

    But the biggest impact, by far IMO, lies in the changes that weren’t made. The DLine regressed from a talent perspective, as did the secondary overall. All of the teams in the NFC South have improved defensively this year, except one. Media & fans are using Smitty as a scapegoat IMO. He has probably close to zero control over the personnel that they give him to work with. And even this year, with less talent on the defensive side of the ball, Smitty has them all playing hard. The talent just isn’t there. And we all know who provided that talent, don’t we. Keep Licht if you want, but regardless of which coach gets to drive this train, the results will be the same until the Architect of this Train Wreck is replaced by someone who knows how to really build a T-E-A-M.

  49. AlteredEgo Says:

    DR…nice post…lot of truth in your summation

  50. Lakeland Says:

    They can bring back the current staff and go 5-11, or they can bring in a new staff and go 5-11. It really doesn’t matter unless they bring in players on the level of players from Atlanta, Carolina and New Orleans.

  51. Rod Munch Says:

    I said when the Bucs signed D-Jax it would take at LEAST 4 games for him and Jameis to get into rhythm, and that was assuming they played together in the preseason, but wasn’t counting those games.

    However they never really have gelled all that well. Winston is a high ball thrower, meaning he throws it up high for Evans and Brate to go get – and that is by design as neither guy is ever really “open” – but certainly Winston can do more than that since guys like Adam Humphries on the team as well. But the timing with D-Jax just hasn’t been there for whatever reason. It’s odd since I don’t think you could ever say that about any Bucs WR – there’s never seemingly been an issue with being in sync.

  52. AlteredEgo Says:

    Earlier they did try slants and quicker timing plays ,but Jameis was having trouble with timing and ball placement…that said Jameis since returning from injury has been much better with both….DJax is paid this year…I’d go to school the last game and use him early and often …sorting things out going forward…won’t learn anything new otherwise….DJax can still do his one trick pony show for a few more years

  53. Pierce Says:

    This is what I’m talking about. It takes time to build a team. When a new coach comes in they need time to install their players, their philosophy, their scheme and players need time to learn it and understand what they’re supposed to do. When you draft a new player it takes time for them to learn not only a new scheme but also how to play in the rigorous nfl.
    You can’t do this in two years. If the Glazers can’t understand this then our team is going to suck for a very, very long time.

  54. cmurda Says:

    @Luv. I’m not surprised you were thinking like us. When has anyone been impressed with a Mike Smith defense. The only defense he has had coordinated with any success but I’ve always felt Jack Del Rio had a lot to do with that. Under Smith’s tutelage in Atlanta, defense was always their Achilles heel.

    @D Rules. I hear you. Very good points in there. For me, good coaching means exploiting your team’s strengths and hiding their weaknesses. We could argue that any defense requires the front 4 to create havoc. Regarding Smith, my issue was that our defense was extremely predictable and easy for opposing QB’s to beat. Guys like Matty Ice, Brees, and Cam know how to take what the defense gives them. We play 25 miles off of Julio, then Matty is going to throw the quick hitches to Julio. My problem isn’t that Smitty’s defense gets beat. That happens to the best of them. My problem is that he doesn’t adjust. He continued to allow his corners to play so far back that slants and hitches were no brainer gimme’s for the defense. Mix up the blitzes. Have your CB’s play close to the receiver. Do something. Regardless of the amount of fumbles JW has had, he has had us with the lead or tied in games late and our defense caved. Mike Smith needs to be the first to go.

  55. cmurda Says:

    he only defense he has had coordinated with any success was Jacksonville’s in the mid 2000’s.

  56. AlteredEgo Says:

    “He continued to allow his corners to play so far back that slants and hitches were no brainer gimme’s for the defense”…….so does that say Smith does not trust his DB’s….I think that is exactly that….no pressure from the line….no coverage from the DB’s…..hey…I think we found the problem

  57. JimmyJack Says:

    Ummm yeah it takes some time for a new QB/WR tandem to get chemistry……….Some time, like a quarter season. Half a season is too long to wait. But with Winston and DJax it has been an entire season and no results.

    Why exactly are we supposted to have faith a second year suddenly starts producing? It can only been seen as a failed signing this year. Alshon And Wentz taking 7 or so games to gel doesn’t make me have any belief that it will happen for my QB/WR in game 17…..Why would it?

  58. JimmyJack Says:

    Mike Smith is a scapegoat somewhat…..I just think he was the wrong guy for the job.

    It was one of the worse decisions Dirk has made. What really pisses me off is that Dirk should have know to avoid a defensive system like his since it was the primary reason Lovie Smith got fired. And yeah, I’m sure there are some differences between Mike and Lovies defense but you can’t deny that each defense centers around getting front four pressure…..The exact thing we didn’t/don’t have.

    Dirk hired a friend and he hired somebody who was not in the best interest of the franchise. Dirk took over a team with high expectations and those expectations are now at an all time low. You can look directly ar Dirk and claim he was a major players in horrible decisions like…..Doug, DJax, moving Marpet to C, Mike Smith, poor evaluation of the Oline………I’m not kosher with another year of horrible decisions. Which is what Dirk has given us

  59. SOEbuc Says:

    Jameis has a strong arm and has the talent of really being able to put the ball in the right spot (8 picks this year and 18 last year). I think DJax should be running a lot more 30-yard posts than deep balls up the sidelines. And I think running a lot of those type plays instead of 10-yard curls would be better for DJax. But then again I’m not the HC that gets to make the calls. That last sentence was sarcasm for anyone that didn’t pick that up.

  60. cmurda Says:

    @ Alteredego. That’s exactly what it means. Smitty tried to play the bend, don’t break philosophy which never works.

  61. Rod Munch Says:

    AlteredEgo – I agree on the slants, they really haven’t ran those that much as the year has gone on, it’s been either deep balls or curl routes seemingly. The timing early in the year I think was 100% them just not playing together, and with the lack of play time in the preseason and the hurricane messing up camp, etc – I personally wasn’t expecting much. But as the season went along, Winston got hurt, played hurt, then was out, then when he came back healthy he’s been great. For D-Jax it’s still just not quite there, on deep balls it always seems as if it’s just a step or 2 off, and on the short balls the ball is there but curl routes really don’t give him a chance to do anything after the catch. Why the slants got mostly abandoned I’m not sure, perhaps they’re running it more than you and I are giving them credit for but defenses are defending that – I’m not sure.

    D-Jax however is a great tool to have in the arsenal and if he’s not getting the yardage that is expected the Bucs should have had him returning kicks to get him more involved. His actual catch total is about what it normally is, but it’s the average that is way down, and that’s obviously because the long ball just hasn’t been there.

    Next season, and he basically has a 2 year fully guaranteed deal so he’s back next year, more effort has to go into using D-Jax better. Defenses are still having to pay a lot of attention to him so he’s valuable in opening up underneath for TEs and RBs, but man, he should be a lot more than that.

  62. Larry Edwards Says:

    Did I just read a clown saying McCoy is a cancer? Where did that guy ever learn to watch football? Amazing!

  63. I'm a Tandyman Bucs Fan Says:

    Here you go Buccaneer Bonzai….After a little research and I may not be totally 100 % accurate but here ya go. 2016 Offense QB Jameis Winston, RB Doug Martin, WR Vincent Jackson, WR Mike Evans, TE Cameron Brate, TE Austin Seferan Jenkins, OL Logan Mankins, OL JR Sweenzy, OL Joe Hawley, OL Donovan Smith, OL Ali Marpet. 2016 DEFENSE….DL Robert Ayers, DL Will Gholston, DL Clinton McDonald, DL Akeem Spence, DL Gerald McCoy, LB Lavonte David, LB Quan Alexander, CB Jon Banks & Brent Grimes, Alterraun Verner & VHIII, S Bradley McDougald, S Keith Tandy & Chris Conte.

    2017 Offense…QB Jameis Winston, RB Doug Martin, WR Desean Jackson, WR Mike Evans, TE Cameron Brate, TE OJ Howard, C Joe Hawley & Ali Marpet, LT Donovan Smith, LG Kevin Pamphile, RG Evan Smith, RT Caleb Bennoch,
    2017 Defense…DE Robert Ayers, DT Gerald McCoy, DT Chris Baker, DE William Gholston, SLB Kendell Beckweth, MLB Quan Alexander, WLB Lavonte David, CB Ryan Smith & VHIII, CB Brent Grimes, S Justin Evans & Conte, S T.J. Ward. As you can see I feel my statement was somewhat accurate in my assessment of the 9 & 7 season compared to the 4 & 12 season.

  64. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    If your OL can’t run block and your DL can’t rush the passer you LOSE!!!

    It’s as simple as that. We were horrible run blocking and even worse rushing the passer. And so surprise…we lost. I can’t believe we’ve played as many games as closely as we have.

    Rebuild the trenches!!!!

  65. Bucballbaby84 Says:

    All in favor for bringing back Chucky!!!!! I!!!