Bucs And The Deep Balls

December 8th, 2017

“Don’t worry Jameis, you are better than Big Ben.”

Few teams like to launch deep passes more than the Bucs.

Sadly, of the teams that like to throw the ball down field, still fewer have a worse success rate than the Bucs.

BSPN’s “NFL Matchup,” which is produced by NFL Films, scoured game tape and concluded Tampa Bay is the No. 9 team in the NFL in attempting passes of 20 yards or more. Problem for the Bucs is, the completion percentage of these passes is low, just 30 percent.

But there is a silver lining here, folks. Of those top-10 teams throwing long balls, the mighty Steelers (of all teams) have a much worse percentage of completing those passes. The Steelers have only connected on just 28 percent of the long-ball attempts.

Joe isn’t sure what this says because, just going by the eyeball test, the Steelers are lethal in the passing game. The Bucs are not.

Joe is still of the mind that since America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, and DeSean Jackson are very inconsistent on deep throws, Bucs coach Dirk Koetter should work in more high percentage passes to Jackson and let his wheels take over.

21 Responses to “Bucs And The Deep Balls”

  1. C eh N eh D eh Says:

    What a failure if they go a whole season without connecting to Desean on the deep ball…he was open for TDs every week earlier in the season and JameMISS wasn’t even close to hitting any of them…

  2. AlteredEgo Says:

    Inset Jameis for “Bucs”…for the truth

  3. Lakeland Says:

    Why continue to throw the deep ball?

  4. Bucsfanman Says:

    Hmmm, but JW doesn’t have accuracy issues! Right?!
    Joe, I agree. just because he can run fast doesn’t mean that the only route to throw to him is the fly route. This is why I have been critical of the play-calling. It’s not all that complicated. Get him the ball in open space and let him run.

  5. AlteredEgo Says:

    Lake…got to in order for the defense to respect the whole field….which is why we have DJax…..he’s still waiting for a properly throw ball….

  6. Gobucs Says:

    I’m sure all the Jameis apologists will come up with every excuse in the book about how it’s not his fault.

  7. Kansas95Buc Says:

    Or yet again, scheme around our players strengths….

  8. Hawk Says:

    “Silver lining”?!?! The Steelers aren’t in the same division. Hell, they’re not even in the same conference. The *only* way a lesser team will be a silver lining is if the Bucs are competing directly against them.
    Love your passion, Joe, but this one isn’t pretty no matter how much you try to polish it.

  9. Joe Says:

    Or yet again, scheme around our players strengths….

    What a concept, right?

  10. AlteredEgo Says:

    Or yet again, scheme around our players weaknesses ….

    What a concept, right?

  11. C eh N eh D eh Says:

    they ARE scheming around strengths..Jameis high fastball to evans on sideline out, jameis high fastball to brate down the seam…and oops, jameis high fastball behind Desean on the slant, etc….somebody’s gonna get killed with the high passes down the middle 🙂

  12. Lord Cornelius Says:

    I only recall 1 play where Djax was absolutely open by at least 3+ yards. It was the Vikings game where Winston threw the pick.

    Other than that – I duno wtf people are talking about when they say Djax has been getting wide open down the field this year. His separation hasn’t been there and he hasn’t tracked balls well at all when given chances. DB’s have kept up with him.

    Winston’s deep ball needs improvement regardless. His touch on short passes are fine – he’s never had an issue with that so I don’t get any comments about that.

    Call me a Winston homer but that’s what my eyes have shown me.

    He has improved in every statistical category other than TD %. Turnovers are way down – at 1 per game vs 1.5 per game the prior 2 years… That’s huge improvement yet you see comments as if he’s leading the league in turnovers.

    I’m not going to engage fans in arguments anymore but it’s clear many are delusional or uneducated about their own team. Either that or they do not watch other teams or compare their QB’s play to other Qbs.

    it’s been a disappointing year but the hyperbolic freak outs misguided posts here can be ridiculous lol

  13. AlteredEgo Says:

    love is blind

  14. Buccaneer Bill Says:

    So is hate

  15. Kansas95Buc Says:

    @ LC
    Thank you for dropping stats on these keyboard warriors

  16. Lord Cornelius Says:


    That’s what I’m here for. The pattern of responses is the same – anyone who disagrees just says I’m “cherry picking” by laying out career and yearly statistics lol; and then will say “eye test” while making a bunch of inaccurate and misguided statements.

    I’ll concede a logical fact driven point; but not some dude just making sh1t up out of their a4ss which is the kind of deep analysis we get here.

  17. not there yet Says:

    Hey I bet if you searched you could find stats to spin it and makes a horrible browns team look better. Koetter should be walking the plank at the end of this season. First to go on black Monday

  18. JimmyJack Says:

    You can try to pretty up the deep balls all you want but I’m sure that stat looks putrid if you look directly at all the designed bombs we throw to out wideouts down the sidelines.

    These are the Plays Dirks offense needs and the ones we almost always miss on. I would like to see us get away from 5hose calls and try to design more post routes to our WRs………Winston seems to be more accurate when we the play is right in front of him. He has always shown great touch on seam routes to his TEs. I think it’s worth a shot to call less bombs down the sideline and design more posts or deep bomb plays over the middle. Seems to be Winston’s sweet spot.

    All I can say is that idea likely won’t hurt us any more then our sideline bombs are.

  19. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Three yards separation is all well and good.But if a receiver only has a yard throw the ball out in front of him.Evans was in front of his man last week but jameis threw the pass short so Evans had to give up his separation try to make a play on the ball. When he did ,he was knocked out of bounds.

  20. Destinjohnny Says:

    Jameis isn’t a bust
    But he isn’t great or elite.
    Why ??

  21. JIMMY T Says:

    Destinjohnny? Show me some facts behind your accuracy statement! Dont even think about ANY GAME after the PATS game. Go back to the first 4 games and last week against the PACK as your guide for the stupid ACCURACY statement. Jameis was over 66% completion and last week he was VERY accurate in his first game back. All you look at is a play here or a play there, you have NO CLUE on Jameis accuracy