Ball Protection Is Awful

December 3rd, 2017

Sloppy ball control.

Take care of the ball!

One glances at the box score and it appears America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, had a decent game. He completed 21 of 32 passes for 270 yards and two touchdowns, mostly under a total jailbreak of a Packers pass rush.

But those fumbles, good grief those hideous fumbles.

Jameis does good things despite the haters looking the other way. But something Jameis has never improved on is taking care of the football as far as fumbles go. It is both mindblowing and enough to slam your head into a wall.

That fumble Jameis had today in Packers territory for a 62-yard return by Dean Lowry was enough for Joe to run out onto the highway and throw a beer bottle through someone’s windshield. Jameis was actually trying to throw the ball while he was being pulled down. A high school quarterback would have been benched for something that stupid — and it wasn’t the first time Jameis has been so dumb (think Jacksonville this summer, or Julius Peppers in October). And still Jameis tried to do the exact same thing a bit later in the game and by the grace of God did not lose the ball.

If Koetter was an impatient man, he may very well have put Jameis on his rear end for doing that — again, not the first time this has happened. Why does such a smart guy continue to do these dumb things that most quarterbacks figured out before they turned 15?

It’s great that Jameis wants to put the team on his shoulders, but damn man, use that intelligent noggin of yours, please!

What should have been a nice, come-from-behind win in the fourth quarter will forever been overshadowed by that insane fumble return.

Jameis has to wake up if he wants to take the next step as a top shelf NFL quarterback.

48 Responses to “Ball Protection Is Awful”

  1. Ray Rice Says:

    Not even close

  2. Tom Edrington Says:

    The Joes over-hype and Jameis under-delivers……lost by six, Jameis single-handedly gave them seven……go figure……

  3. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    Unfortunately Joe I don’t think JW is ever going to reach his potential and he most certainly doesn’t PLAY intelligently!!! At this point he is a mediocre QB with a turnover problem. He is not Brett Farve heading to the HOF, in which case one might be able to live with the mistakes. However, the sheer stupidity of what he does is lethal to a struggling franchise. The Bucs may want to consider ALL options when draft time rolls around. 4-12 should assure us a top 5 pick and they need to think long and hard about what they want to do long term at the QB position.

  4. Joe Says:

    The Joes over-hype and Jameis under-delivers……lost by six, Jameis single-handedly gave them seven……go figure……

    Yeah, hard to figure since he brought the team back and threw a touchdown pass to give the Bucs a lead late. Go figure.

  5. That Guy Says:

    America’s Turnover Machine.

  6. AlteredEgo Says:

    Evans made Johnny Manziel…Benjamin made Jameis….both Jose pick’s

  7. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Yeah, Jameis is America’s Turnover Machine now.

    The No 1 pick isn’t playing like a No 1 pick

    Too bad we could have got a Went or a Goff

    instead we got a guy who licks his fingers……..

    sad really

  8. Season Is Over Says:

    Mr. Only Seen in Local Markets once again proves his worth. Bucs are nothing short of an embarrassment even in the face of an overtime loss.

  9. Bucnut2 Says:

    Joe- stop with saying Winston brought the team back. Go look at the video. The ENTIRE comeback was engineered when Koetter took the ball OUT of Winston’s hands and let Barber and the O-line dominate. Winston’s role was to turn and hand off. He did NOT bring the team back.

  10. Roy T. Buford Says:

    JW is a BS artist in my book. Not developed. More sex allegations. More drama. Cut this chump loose. He’s a loser so far, and all we can tell he is all talk. NO FEAR Jameis. Walk, chump! No need to let him continue to hurt this team.

  11. JimmyJack Says:

    It was a unforgivable error but the story of this game was much more then that one play………Each Line got physically dominated today.

    We need Winston to quit the boneheaded plays but that will never equate to a playoff berth if we get physically dominated.

    We are a bad team with or without Jamies. The answer to turning around this franchise clearly is not present.

  12. Wausa Says:

    I’m always amazed at the idotic posts on this board.

    Jameis had no protection at all.

  13. Pelbuc Says:

    GM picked the wrong QB, re-signed the wrong RB, hired the wrong coach and forgot about both lines. And we wonder why Bucs suck? The losing culture will continue as long as Licht and JW are in Tampa. GM and DC need to go asap!

  14. AlteredEgo Says:

    ^^^ Wasuuuuu are you talking unprotected text ?

  15. Lee Says:

    If you looked at Jamie’s’ weaknesses entering the NFL and compared to now, there’d be no difference.

  16. Jarid Murchie Says:

    People still defending crab legs lol. Sure..good luck with that

  17. Buc4life Says:

    Joe I don’t know what you continue to see in him mind blowing

  18. jb Says:

    Dumbest finger licker in the NFL……..Jameis Winston.

    BTW….was it the offensive line that caused jameis to not even line up behind the center on that one fumble. Face it…….this team has more holes in it than the swiss cheese chilling in your refrigerator. Quarterback, Runningback, O-line, D-line….not to mention the coaching staff. We were sold nothing but hype this past offseason, and if I hear one more person try and say what a terrific leader Winston is. I’ll suggest they TRY eating W’s the way Jameis does.

  19. Bucs14 Says:

    I think Jameis is pressing too hard, and his skill are in want. He simply is not ready to QB at this level. he should never have been a number 1 pick. he should of went mid 2nd or early 3rd. He needs seasoning.

    But Jameis is not the only thing to blame. The Bucs play calling scheme is simply atrocious.

  20. Dooshlarue Says:

    Who said JW was smart?

  21. AlteredEgo Says:

    Jameis is smart …he had a scholarship to Sanford University ,Fl…..

  22. Rob Says:

    When I dubbed Jameis Winston the human ATM (America’s turnover machine) last year, I had no idea how he would continue to make this nickname such a perfect one. No franchise qb who turns the ball over so carelessly will ever be able to take his team deep in the playoffs. I don’t think the human ATM learns from his boneheaded mistakes and therefore will never be a franchise qb. I’d rather draft the best defensive pass rusher in the draft next year and sign another qb like Flowers who won’t be expensive and much less frustrating to watch. Flowers can run and pass the ball over the field with more accuracy on his deep throws than the human ATM. Go Bucs!

  23. JimmyJack Says:

    Rob you’re talking playoffs? Let’s not try to pretend like this team is a QB away from the playoffs.

  24. Tatals17 Says:

    John Elway averaged 16 interceptions a season his first 4 and somehow managed 2 super bowl rings once he got a great O-line and a running game. JW plays under more pressure than any an in the NFL. No blame for Caleb Benenoch for standing directly behind Jameis blocking nobody???????

  25. Bobby M. Says:

    Jameis needs to be viewed more like a Vinny Testerverde and less like Brett Favre.

  26. Mike Johnson Says:

    We could have had..Aaron Donald on Defense. He’s got 2 sacks against Arizona today already. But we, you..said a good offense could beat a great Defense anyday. I think that last GreenBay drive..or shall I say..walk thru our defensive Garden proves my point huh?

  27. Lamarcus Says:

    Yall crazy being critical of JW. We live in a world where Grossman and trent dilfer can lead u to a sb. Weven need defense

  28. BrianBucs Says:

    Joe, maybe that noggin is not so intelligent after all

  29. Who Dat Says:

    Flacco loved eating a W today lol geezus

  30. BrianBucs Says:

    There is a lot more to playing QB in the NFL than being able to throw the football

  31. Frank Pillow Says:

    We need to clean house top to bottom- today was the first time that I thought Jaboo should be included in with the Clorox. He’s been largely terrible for many of his starts over the past year + and shows no signs of getting better.
    Maybe it’s the scheme. Maybe it’s the talent around him. Maybe it’s inbetween his ears. Whatever it is, can we honestly say he’s better than the kid that opened his career with a pick-6? He’s kind of the same player, isn’t he?

    Now we have to really ask ourselves is he better than what’s coming out of the draft this year? Go ahead and flame me, but if Baker Mayfield= a young Drew Brees, do you make the pick? I’d suggest that it should at least be considerered. That no one should be safe.

  32. Roy T. Buford Says:

    Jameis, who was the third guy in the cab?
    Chump thug.

  33. Roy T. Buford Says:

    T-Kraz classic: Jameis will hopefully use his hands for his team’s benefit.

    LOL. Oh, with all those endorsements he has, you’d think he’d be doing that. Oh wait, no one trusts the guy painted on the side of our stadium. Sure can trust him to hold onto the football.

    I’d definitely not trust a women with him.

  34. Roy T. Buford Says:

    Or should I say…would not Jameis with a woman. BS artist….on and off the field. My opinion.

  35. Arealbucsfan Says:

    @Rob go look at Eli manning

  36. Buc Fan in NC Says:

    He gave you a 20-17 lead. But he cost you the game?

  37. Arealbucsfan Says:

    I’m still in JW corner. Is he a great QB? No. But he still is pretty good. He’ll never be Brady, Brees etc. but still pretty good. We need a run game, and a better scheme.

  38. Cobraboy Says:

    Winston makes me pine for Trent Dilfer.

  39. Doctor Stroud Says:

    Yes, ball protection is a huge problem, but Jameis Winston has the same tired flaw that has plagued Bucs QBs since the beginning of the franchise. He gets into trouble because he holds on to the ball too long. In the immortal words of Colt McCoy on Gruden’s QB Camp: Get rid of the dang ball! For example, he (and the receivers) might benefit from incorporating more slants or “hot reads” into this offense. The closest that they came to this today was a few well-timed screens. Not everything has to be a bomb or seam route.

    And, I would suggest that Winston run a mile or two or throw before the game. He is so amped up. You can tell he wants to throw a dart or a bomb every time he drops back. It’s hard not to get a mild heart attack every time he attempts a touch throw, which looks really wobbly and tentative. #CalmTheFDown

  40. nole4JabooANDdBucs Says:

    OutingThe 3rd guy in the cab, would be like outing the oline, or the guy snapping the ball, or the receiver who runs the wrong route🤔

  41. BrianBucs Says:

    With Jameis, you are always going to get a whole lot of good mixed in with a whole lot of bad

  42. BB Says:

    Defense so bad so far away but gump at qb doesn’t ever help sorry gump I know jw isn’t in your league intellectual wise

  43. MadMax Says:

    I stayed away just to see….welcome aboard to those ready to move on from JW#3.

  44. sumo Says:

    Jameis is an average quarterback with an accuracy problem that consistantly does not learn from mistakes. Most of these things cannot be corrected. He is what he is.

  45. Skipper Says:

    Let’s see here, Winston fumbled once while taking an absolute beating, sacked 7 times. No int’s despite having to rush his throws with D lineman barreling down on him. Winston did his part today, played winning gutsy football and in my opinion was one of the positives.

  46. Onetrickpony Says:

    Some are special in collage, than there are some who cant carry it over to the pros.
    I am begining to think JW is one of them.
    All I know is Im sick and tired of watching bone headed moves by someone who was touted as high as he was coming out .
    But I think yhe thing that gets under my skin the most

  47. BoJim Says:

    Wasn’t on TV here but when the game I was watching flipped to the Bucs/Packers, that was the damn play they showed. Couldn’t believe he tried that. Wait! Yes I could.

  48. NFLNut Says:


    Jameis Winston’s first 40 NFL games: 10,322 pass yds, 62 TDs, 39 INTs

    Peyton Manning’s first 40 games: 10,312 pass yds, 70 TDs, 52 INTs

    By the way, Jameis is also a year YOUNGER than Peyton Manning was at the time he completed his first 40 games … AND Peyton had two extra years of NCAA experience as well.

    Barring serious injury, when all is said and done I have little doubt Jameis will be the NFL’s ALL-TIME leader in passing yards & TDs … and yet people will still hate him as he’s a polarizing figure … the new 2Pac/Kobe Bryant/Mike Tyson/Barry Bonds/