Ball Protection Is Awful
December 3rd, 2017
Sloppy ball control.
Take care of the ball!
One glances at the box score and it appears America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, had a decent game. He completed 21 of 32 passes for 270 yards and two touchdowns, mostly under a total jailbreak of a Packers pass rush.
But those fumbles, good grief those hideous fumbles.
Jameis does good things despite the haters looking the other way. But something Jameis has never improved on is taking care of the football as far as fumbles go. It is both mindblowing and enough to slam your head into a wall.
That fumble Jameis had today in Packers territory for a 62-yard return by Dean Lowry was enough for Joe to run out onto the highway and throw a beer bottle through someone’s windshield. Jameis was actually trying to throw the ball while he was being pulled down. A high school quarterback would have been benched for something that stupid — and it wasn’t the first time Jameis has been so dumb (think Jacksonville this summer, or Julius Peppers in October). And still Jameis tried to do the exact same thing a bit later in the game and by the grace of God did not lose the ball.
If Koetter was an impatient man, he may very well have put Jameis on his rear end for doing that — again, not the first time this has happened. Why does such a smart guy continue to do these dumb things that most quarterbacks figured out before they turned 15?
It’s great that Jameis wants to put the team on his shoulders, but damn man, use that intelligent noggin of yours, please!
What should have been a nice, come-from-behind win in the fourth quarter will forever been overshadowed by that insane fumble return.
Jameis has to wake up if he wants to take the next step as a top shelf NFL quarterback.
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:07 pm
Not even close
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:11 pm
The Joes over-hype and Jameis under-delivers……lost by six, Jameis single-handedly gave them seven……go figure……
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:11 pm
Unfortunately Joe I don’t think JW is ever going to reach his potential and he most certainly doesn’t PLAY intelligently!!! At this point he is a mediocre QB with a turnover problem. He is not Brett Farve heading to the HOF, in which case one might be able to live with the mistakes. However, the sheer stupidity of what he does is lethal to a struggling franchise. The Bucs may want to consider ALL options when draft time rolls around. 4-12 should assure us a top 5 pick and they need to think long and hard about what they want to do long term at the QB position.
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:12 pm
The Joes over-hype and Jameis under-delivers……lost by six, Jameis single-handedly gave them seven……go figure……
Yeah, hard to figure since he brought the team back and threw a touchdown pass to give the Bucs a lead late. Go figure.
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:12 pm
America’s Turnover Machine.
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:15 pm
Evans made Johnny Manziel…Benjamin made Jameis….both Jose pick’s
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:16 pm
Yeah, Jameis is America’s Turnover Machine now.
The No 1 pick isn’t playing like a No 1 pick
Too bad we could have got a Went or a Goff
instead we got a guy who licks his fingers……..
sad really
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:16 pm
Mr. Only Seen in Local Markets once again proves his worth. Bucs are nothing short of an embarrassment even in the face of an overtime loss.
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:25 pm
Joe- stop with saying Winston brought the team back. Go look at the video. The ENTIRE comeback was engineered when Koetter took the ball OUT of Winston’s hands and let Barber and the O-line dominate. Winston’s role was to turn and hand off. He did NOT bring the team back.
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:29 pm
JW is a BS artist in my book. Not developed. More sex allegations. More drama. Cut this chump loose. He’s a loser so far, and all we can tell he is all talk. NO FEAR Jameis. Walk, chump! No need to let him continue to hurt this team.
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:29 pm
It was a unforgivable error but the story of this game was much more then that one play………Each Line got physically dominated today.
We need Winston to quit the boneheaded plays but that will never equate to a playoff berth if we get physically dominated.
We are a bad team with or without Jamies. The answer to turning around this franchise clearly is not present.
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:30 pm
I’m always amazed at the idotic posts on this board.
Jameis had no protection at all.
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:30 pm
GM picked the wrong QB, re-signed the wrong RB, hired the wrong coach and forgot about both lines. And we wonder why Bucs suck? The losing culture will continue as long as Licht and JW are in Tampa. GM and DC need to go asap!
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:36 pm
^^^ Wasuuuuu are you talking unprotected text ?
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:36 pm
If you looked at Jamie’s’ weaknesses entering the NFL and compared to now, there’d be no difference.
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:36 pm
People still defending crab legs lol. Sure..good luck with that
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:41 pm
Joe I don’t know what you continue to see in him mind blowing
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:45 pm
Dumbest finger licker in the NFL……..Jameis Winston.
BTW….was it the offensive line that caused jameis to not even line up behind the center on that one fumble. Face it…….this team has more holes in it than the swiss cheese chilling in your refrigerator. Quarterback, Runningback, O-line, D-line….not to mention the coaching staff. We were sold nothing but hype this past offseason, and if I hear one more person try and say what a terrific leader Winston is. I’ll suggest they TRY eating W’s the way Jameis does.
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:45 pm
I think Jameis is pressing too hard, and his skill are in want. He simply is not ready to QB at this level. he should never have been a number 1 pick. he should of went mid 2nd or early 3rd. He needs seasoning.
But Jameis is not the only thing to blame. The Bucs play calling scheme is simply atrocious.
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:46 pm
Who said JW was smart?
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:48 pm
Jameis is smart …he had a scholarship to Sanford University ,Fl…..
December 3rd, 2017 at 6:49 pm
When I dubbed Jameis Winston the human ATM (America’s turnover machine) last year, I had no idea how he would continue to make this nickname such a perfect one. No franchise qb who turns the ball over so carelessly will ever be able to take his team deep in the playoffs. I don’t think the human ATM learns from his boneheaded mistakes and therefore will never be a franchise qb. I’d rather draft the best defensive pass rusher in the draft next year and sign another qb like Flowers who won’t be expensive and much less frustrating to watch. Flowers can run and pass the ball over the field with more accuracy on his deep throws than the human ATM. Go Bucs!
December 3rd, 2017 at 7:00 pm
Rob you’re talking playoffs? Let’s not try to pretend like this team is a QB away from the playoffs.
December 3rd, 2017 at 7:14 pm
John Elway averaged 16 interceptions a season his first 4 and somehow managed 2 super bowl rings once he got a great O-line and a running game. JW plays under more pressure than any an in the NFL. No blame for Caleb Benenoch for standing directly behind Jameis blocking nobody???????
December 3rd, 2017 at 7:17 pm
Jameis needs to be viewed more like a Vinny Testerverde and less like Brett Favre.
December 3rd, 2017 at 7:19 pm
We could have had..Aaron Donald on Defense. He’s got 2 sacks against Arizona today already. But we, you..said a good offense could beat a great Defense anyday. I think that last GreenBay drive..or shall I say..walk thru our defensive Garden proves my point huh?
December 3rd, 2017 at 7:21 pm
Yall crazy being critical of JW. We live in a world where Grossman and trent dilfer can lead u to a sb. Weven need defense
December 3rd, 2017 at 7:37 pm
Joe, maybe that noggin is not so intelligent after all
December 3rd, 2017 at 7:40 pm
Flacco loved eating a W today lol geezus
December 3rd, 2017 at 7:41 pm
There is a lot more to playing QB in the NFL than being able to throw the football
December 3rd, 2017 at 7:53 pm
We need to clean house top to bottom- today was the first time that I thought Jaboo should be included in with the Clorox. He’s been largely terrible for many of his starts over the past year + and shows no signs of getting better.
Maybe it’s the scheme. Maybe it’s the talent around him. Maybe it’s inbetween his ears. Whatever it is, can we honestly say he’s better than the kid that opened his career with a pick-6? He’s kind of the same player, isn’t he?
Now we have to really ask ourselves is he better than what’s coming out of the draft this year? Go ahead and flame me, but if Baker Mayfield= a young Drew Brees, do you make the pick? I’d suggest that it should at least be considerered. That no one should be safe.
December 3rd, 2017 at 8:03 pm
Jameis, who was the third guy in the cab?
Chump thug.
December 3rd, 2017 at 8:05 pm
T-Kraz classic: Jameis will hopefully use his hands for his team’s benefit.
LOL. Oh, with all those endorsements he has, you’d think he’d be doing that. Oh wait, no one trusts the guy painted on the side of our stadium. Sure can trust him to hold onto the football.
I’d definitely not trust a women with him.
December 3rd, 2017 at 8:06 pm
Or should I say…would not Jameis with a woman. BS artist….on and off the field. My opinion.
December 3rd, 2017 at 8:20 pm
@Rob go look at Eli manning
December 3rd, 2017 at 8:20 pm
He gave you a 20-17 lead. But he cost you the game?
December 3rd, 2017 at 8:25 pm
I’m still in JW corner. Is he a great QB? No. But he still is pretty good. He’ll never be Brady, Brees etc. but still pretty good. We need a run game, and a better scheme.
December 3rd, 2017 at 8:34 pm
Winston makes me pine for Trent Dilfer.
December 3rd, 2017 at 9:05 pm
Yes, ball protection is a huge problem, but Jameis Winston has the same tired flaw that has plagued Bucs QBs since the beginning of the franchise. He gets into trouble because he holds on to the ball too long. In the immortal words of Colt McCoy on Gruden’s QB Camp: Get rid of the dang ball! For example, he (and the receivers) might benefit from incorporating more slants or “hot reads” into this offense. The closest that they came to this today was a few well-timed screens. Not everything has to be a bomb or seam route.
And, I would suggest that Winston run a mile or two or throw before the game. He is so amped up. You can tell he wants to throw a dart or a bomb every time he drops back. It’s hard not to get a mild heart attack every time he attempts a touch throw, which looks really wobbly and tentative. #CalmTheFDown
December 3rd, 2017 at 9:41 pm
OutingThe 3rd guy in the cab, would be like outing the oline, or the guy snapping the ball, or the receiver who runs the wrong route🤔
December 3rd, 2017 at 9:51 pm
With Jameis, you are always going to get a whole lot of good mixed in with a whole lot of bad
December 3rd, 2017 at 9:56 pm
Defense so bad so far away but gump at qb doesn’t ever help sorry gump I know jw isn’t in your league intellectual wise
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:14 pm
I stayed away just to see….welcome aboard to those ready to move on from JW#3.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:29 pm
Jameis is an average quarterback with an accuracy problem that consistantly does not learn from mistakes. Most of these things cannot be corrected. He is what he is.
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:32 pm
Let’s see here, Winston fumbled once while taking an absolute beating, sacked 7 times. No int’s despite having to rush his throws with D lineman barreling down on him. Winston did his part today, played winning gutsy football and in my opinion was one of the positives.
December 4th, 2017 at 4:16 am
Some are special in collage, than there are some who cant carry it over to the pros.
I am begining to think JW is one of them.
All I know is Im sick and tired of watching bone headed moves by someone who was touted as high as he was coming out .
But I think yhe thing that gets under my skin the most
December 4th, 2017 at 7:51 am
Wasn’t on TV here but when the game I was watching flipped to the Bucs/Packers, that was the damn play they showed. Couldn’t believe he tried that. Wait! Yes I could.
December 4th, 2017 at 11:37 am
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Jameis Winston’s first 40 NFL games: 10,322 pass yds, 62 TDs, 39 INTs
Peyton Manning’s first 40 games: 10,312 pass yds, 70 TDs, 52 INTs
By the way, Jameis is also a year YOUNGER than Peyton Manning was at the time he completed his first 40 games … AND Peyton had two extra years of NCAA experience as well.
Barring serious injury, when all is said and done I have little doubt Jameis will be the NFL’s ALL-TIME leader in passing yards & TDs … and yet people will still hate him as he’s a polarizing figure … the new 2Pac/Kobe Bryant/Mike Tyson/Barry Bonds/
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