Things Get Worse For The Fire Koetter Mob
November 20th, 2017
Big win. Big locker room posture by Team Glazer.
Sometimes body language can tell a story — or at least help a keen Bucs observer develop one.
Joe’s going to keep it very real here. Loads of Tampa Bay fans, but not a majority, are hoping .500 head coach Dirk Koetter gets fired next month so Chucky can ride in on his white tiger to sign a fat new Bucs contract.
Joe is not in that camp. But Joe gets the sentiment, which was sent ablaze 15 days ago after the Bucs were humiliated thoroughly in New Orleans and dropped to 2-6.
The only logical question at that time was whether the team had thrown in the towel on Koetter and how long it might take for Team Glazer to convene and discuss potential regime change. That’s what happens when you play rotten football after celebrating your team’s talent level publicly.
Well, now the Bucs have proven that the head coach has a firm grip on the team. They’ve unveiled a two-game winning streak, one delivered by a team playing hard. The defense, despite brutal troubles on third down and giving up big plays, is showing a ton of desire and is making plays and, frankly, is keeping the Bucs in games. That’s how inefficient the Tampa Bay offense has been.
However, the offense is doing enough with Ryan Fitzpatrick and no running game, which in many ways makes Koetter a freakin’ miracle worker.
That’s the same Fitzpatrick who is now 48-69-1 as a career starter.
That’s the same Fitzpatrick who was brutal last season with the Jets.
That’s the same 35-year-old Fitzpatrick who was unemployed and contemplating retirement in late May when the Bucs signed him.
That’s the same Fitzpatrick who didn’t look good in training camp.
Koetter’s job is to win games, one at a time, not score style points. Joe can’t believe how many fans have lost sight of that with a backup QB on the field.
Team Glazer attends all games and often is spotted congratulating players outside or just inside the locker room. Well, in the postgame locker room video on Buccaneers.com last night, Bucs co-chairman Ed Glazer is seen standing just an arm’s length from Koetter as he delivers a short victory speech.
Very rarely is a member of Team Glazer seen so close to the head coach in one of these videos. They are usually far away in the background, or not visible at all.
Joe doesn’t believe in coincidences. Glazer wanting to be so close to his head coach tells Joe this is a rough morning for the Fire Koetter crowd. And somewhere in Seattle preparing to call Monday Night Football tonight, a media-manipulating former head coach, a guy who retired from his professed life’s passion at 45 years old, is dropping F-bombs in succession.
November 20th, 2017 at 8:38 am
Bad news for the 10000001 Gruden articles on PR
November 20th, 2017 at 8:41 am
Yaaaaaaas
Dirk is just a phenomenal coach…
November 20th, 2017 at 8:41 am
“Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer” – Vito Corleone
November 20th, 2017 at 8:42 am
Kind of a stretch joe… that’s not even Joel or Bryan.
Whaaat? There are three co-chairmen, three decision-makers, Joel, Bryan & Ed.–Joe
November 20th, 2017 at 8:44 am
Wishing and praying ain’t gonna make it so.
November 20th, 2017 at 8:44 am
ok.
November 20th, 2017 at 8:44 am
PR gonna write about it regardless even in the offseason if they don’t fire koetter. those clowns can’t wait to make a nickel off of any story they can think of
November 20th, 2017 at 8:44 am
It was great coaching on display that has been on display so that this team, despite major roster deficiencies!!!!!!!!!! Fix the trenches and we will really see something next year!!!!!!
@Joe
any truth to the rumor that at Ray J that they might start selling “W” pretzels!!! as the media try to portray as a negative has became a trend and unground swell of support as grade school sports are starting to catch on???????????
GO Bucs (keep stacking) !!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 20th, 2017 at 8:47 am
beating the jets and fins isn’t something to beat our chest about…..we are the better team hands down….and still almost came up with a way to screw it up….
now he real test begins…..playing teams that are over .500 and that have something to play for…..
win on the road in ATL and then we can talk….GO BUCS!!!
November 20th, 2017 at 8:48 am
Dirk is 13-13 and 8-2 in the second half of the season(s). If he can get a run game and avoid slow starts…. The man deserves another year.
November 20th, 2017 at 8:48 am
I don’t have a problem with Dirk Koetter. I have a problem with Jason Licht, he’s the one that should be fired. He knew the Bucs Edge Rushers was garbage and injury prone last season. Yet he decided to stick with them and refused to address the problem. He knew that the Bucs led the league in missed blocks last season. But he didn’t make any changes on the O-Line. He knew that our run game was weak last season. But he passed on a slew of good Running Backs. Bradley McDougald and Akeem Spence should have been re-signed. Bradley McDougald has started the last two games for Earl Thomas for the Seahawks. Now that Kam Chancellor is going to IR, he will be starting the rest of the season.
November 20th, 2017 at 8:48 am
We haven’t beaten one good team all season every team has a below .500 record.
November 20th, 2017 at 8:49 am
“great coaching” is a stretch Realist! Week in and week out this team cannot get out of it’s own way on offense. The play-calling is ridiculously predictable. And, we HAVE talent. If we were talking defense, maybe. Offense, man please. It’s been ugly!
November 20th, 2017 at 8:50 am
And somewhere in Seattle preparing to call Monday Night Football tonight, a media-manipulating former head coach, a guy who retired from his professed life’s passion at 45 years old, is dropping F-bombs in succession.
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Yeah, and keep that egomaniac away from One Buc Place!
November 20th, 2017 at 8:53 am
Dirk Koetter is 13-13 as the Bucs HC
The two previous years
The Bucs were 8-24
Give him 4 years before making a move
One good draft can turn this team around
A draft similar to the Saints 2017 draft
November 20th, 2017 at 8:58 am
I am definitely in the fire dirk camp. That doesnt mean Id be happy if it happened. I dont wana see a man lose his job. Its obvious to me he is not a head coach. I also dont think glazer standing by him means much at all. Miami turned it over 5 times and had loads of penalties and a safety taken away. N koetter winning with a backup qb doesnt mean he is coaching better. It means his backup qb is playing better than his starter. Every game i watch now i see numerous head coaching mistakes. Id love for him to suddenly figure it out n keep his job. Doubt its happening tho. Im also not a big fan of gruden. He wasnt don shula exactly either. We will see how dirk and smitty do against some good teams coming up. If dirk isnt fired at years end Ill be shocked.
November 20th, 2017 at 8:58 am
The defense gave the team 5 turnovers yesterday and you’re telling me that Koetter did a good job after only winning the game by a last second field goal? Two wins against two of the most talent starved teams in the league doesn’t help anything for Koetter especially since he’s an offensive guy. He doesn’t get the free pass for the weak a$$ running game either since he foolishly sends Doug out there when he has Quizz and Peyton on the bench.
Joe, you need to quit defending this guy. His offense has been a joke for all but two or three games all year. If he puts it together and gets a win against the Falcons then I might feel differently, but quit pumping him up just because you like him and call it like it is.
Was his playcalling better yesterday than it has been for most of the season? Absolutely. But don’t say that he’s keeping his job just yet. Prove it against a legit opponent.
November 20th, 2017 at 9:03 am
I really have a reluctance to churn coaches….I believe the key for Koetter will be winning at least 1 of the 4 remaining games against division opponents…..w are at home. Yes…at least 1 game spoiling their playoff hopes. Surely we should be able to accomplish that. If we can’t, all bets are off.
November 20th, 2017 at 9:06 am
“I’m gonna make him an offer he can’t refuse.” — Vito Corleone
In Team Glazer’s case, this means re-signing Coach Koetter to an extension, only then to fire him, paying yet another coach not the coach. How long did it take for them to pay out Gruden’s contract? When do the contracts for Schiano and Lovie Smith run out? The Stick Carriers might (or might not) appreciate the Godfather analogy. #PaidFloridaVacation
November 20th, 2017 at 9:12 am
What a strange, strange place we’re in. On one hand, the team has shown effort and heart over the past couple of weeks. This strongly suggests that Dirk hasn’t lost the team.
There’s even a pulse out of guys like Swaggy. Geraldini played his best game of the season yesterday and David has stepped up his play considerably. Kwon is getting back into form and even some development going on with Justin Evans and Ryan Smith.
On the other side of the ball, Godwin is coming on and Fitz’s steady (if unspectacular) play has done exactly what you want out of a backup QB…not lose football games.
All that being said, there’s something that’s “off” about this team. You don’t get to 2-6 if everything is alright. In my view, it starts with the roster. It’s simply inexcusable for Licht to not address GLARING weaknesses at RB, CB and DE. We paid the price for hubris and left holes on the roster by trading valuable picks for a kicker and not finding an RB in one of the deepest drafts in recent memory. Save Grimes, FA has largely turned up empty too.
Next, there’s coaching. For the life of me, I don’t understand what the hell is going on with the Xs and Os (I played college football, so I have a fairly decent understanding of where folks are supposed to be and why). Smitty’s scheme is a bit of a mess b/c he’s trying to compensate for not getting outside pressure. But there are still whole stretches of games where the front and back don’t seem synched. What has improved lately and is masking some of this is improved LB play and blitzing.
As for Dirk, it seems like he’s more and more entrenched in running HIS scheme and I just don’t get it. One of the best things he said (and used to consistently say) is that that it was his job to mask his own weaknesses as much as it is to take advantage of the opposing team’s failings. He’s simply not doing a good enough job of doing that. Long/slow developing plays (5-7 step drops, vertical routes, a power running game that flows more quasi-zone like run scheme).
Look at the teams having success with young QBs. The game is evolving and has incorporated a ton from the college game, particularly the spread. More than most care to admit. Lots of quick/horizontal routes, misdirection, pop-passes and easier reads- with fast/dynamic playmakers. We don’t do any of that. None. We plod down the field.
Ultimately, Dirk will seal his own fate over the next few weeks. This ATL game is huge for him. Win and the Gruden rumors fade to a murmur. Lose and lose badly and they return.
November 20th, 2017 at 9:24 am
Losses
New England Patriots (8-2)
Minnesota Vikings (8-2)
New Orleans Saints (8-2)
Carolina Panthers (7-3)
Buffalo Bills (5-5)
Arizona Cardinals (4-6)
Total: (W) 40 – (L) 20
Opp Winning%: 66.67%
Wins
Miami Dolphins (4-6)
New York Jets (4-6)
New York Giants (2-8)
Chicago Bears (3-7)
Total: (W) 14 – (L)27
Opp Winning%: 34.15%
Remainder
Atlanta Falcons (5-4)
Green Bay Packers (5-5)
Detroit Lions (6-4)
Atlanta Falcons (5-4)
Carolina Panthers (7-3)
New Orleans Saints (8-2)
Total: (W)36 – (L)22
Opp Winning%: 62.07%
November 20th, 2017 at 9:26 am
you mean to tell me that dirk barley beating the jets and fins is something special?…..C’MON MAN!!!!
judging by the past 2 weeks, 4-12/5-11 is still in play……GO BUCS!!!!
November 20th, 2017 at 9:29 am
no running game, which in many ways makes Koetter a freakin’ miracle worker.
Dirk and Licht are the reason there is no running game! Who’s responsible for No running game and no Pass rush?
Is everybody on crazy pills?
November 20th, 2017 at 9:31 am
LUV
so are you saying we still haven’t beaten anyone except for the teams that we knew we would beat back in august?…..GO BUCS!!!!
November 20th, 2017 at 9:31 am
NFC Wildcard Race
Carolina Panthers 7-3
Seattle Seahawks 6-3
Detroit Lions 6-4
Atlanta Falcons 5-4
Dallas Cowboys 5-5
Green Bay Packers 5-5
Atlanta plays at Seattle tonight
The Bucs has Packers,Lions,Panthers,Falcons (twice)
There’s two wildcard spots
The Bucs are still in it
They just has to focus and play football
November 20th, 2017 at 9:32 am
I think Koetter is here to stay at least 1 more year. I think with hard knocks, the storms, no bye week, a pretty tough schedule, along with being pretty competitive in quite a few of the losses the Glazers must realize that this season was a snake bit season. Some major decisions will have to be made tho:
1. Do they extend Licht, that answer is a huge NO.
2. Do they extend Jameis, ABSOLUTELY NO.
3. Do they keep Mike Smith…YES
4. Do they draft a QB high next draft OH HELL YES.
5. Do they force Koetter to give up play calling, YES YES YES!
November 20th, 2017 at 9:33 am
813bucboi
Preeeety Much
November 20th, 2017 at 9:35 am
Um…Gruden did not quit football. He quit the NFL. A company. He’s still in a football-related job.
That said…
#KeepKoetter
Umm, Gruden stopped coaching, aka quit coaching by turning down endless offers. Odd for a guy who claims his life’s passion is coaching. Nobody wrote he quite football. –Joe
November 20th, 2017 at 9:38 am
Bollocks
November 20th, 2017 at 9:39 am
Koetter just has to answer the question of why it takes 8 games to get this team going. 3-5 to start last year and 2-6 this year.
Im not gonna say they are gonna run the table or anything crazy like that off of beating 2 bad teams. However, I do have a different feeling about this team than I did a few weeks ago.
I believe I said this after the Jets win – I can see this team winning just enough to save everyones jobs foranother year and we will be having these same conversations after a 3-5 start next season.
November 20th, 2017 at 9:44 am
Jason Licht took some bold gambles this offseason. And they cost the Bucs big time. If he re-sign Bradley McDougald, he wouldn’t had to draft Justin Evans. He could drafted Kareem Hunt,Alvin Kamara or other Backs. And the Buc would be better at FS. He paid Will Gholston $7,000,000, Chris Baker $6,000,000, Doug Martin $5,764,705. He could have signed Calais Campbell and re-signed Akeem Spence and had money left over.
November 20th, 2017 at 9:50 am
DerrickbroomsforGM
1. I think Licht has done a good enough job, the problem is with the development of the talent not the evaluation of it.
2. If you don’t extend Jameis this team is done, he is the greatest 23 year old QB the NFL has seen, just check the stats
3. I agree Mike smith can be effective but they need pass rush.
4. Draft a QB high and not fix one of our actual holes? That would bury us for another 5 years, we need an elite pass rusher along wth an elite CB.
5. I can agree with koetter possibly giving up play calling, but not sure why we would keep him, he’s a good play caller which is the only reason he was promoted, has shown he’s terrible at managing a game.
November 20th, 2017 at 9:56 am
Joe, I was with you right until you started busting Fitz’ chops. Who cares if he’s 48-69-1 as a career starter? The NFL is a ‘What have you done for me lately?’ crowd. And along those lines, Fitz is 2-0 AND is doing a decent job managing the game. You’ve given Howard & Godwin all kinds of credit for the job that they’re doing catching the rock, but guess who threw those passes … yup, Fitz. Nice passes, and under pressure too. But does Fitz get any credit? Nope. All he gets is a slap that he was ‘brutal last season with the Jets’ and ‘didn’t look good in training camp’ and that he was ‘unemployed’ until the Bucs called. If Jameis had gone 2-0 in these last 2 games & had been the one throwing those passes, I’m sure that you would’ve pronounced that the Second Coming of You Know Who had just arrived.
I want to see Koetter get at least another year also, mostly because I’m sick & tired of the Bucs’ coaching merry-go-round. That’s no way to develop a team obviously. We have some weaknesses that are very visible: OLine, RB, DLine, secondary especially. Can’t imagine going into another off-season with all those holes AND looking for a new coaching staff at the same time. But we still have 6 games to go, and if this team doesn’t win at least 2 of those, my guess is that we’ll see yet another regime change. Hopefully not, but I’m confident that going from 9-7 to 4-12 isn’t the Glazers idea of progress.
November 20th, 2017 at 9:57 am
Dirk gets another year. But finish less than 500 next year? And he will be gone. Its all up to him. There is no fakin in the NFl. You are what your record says you are.
November 20th, 2017 at 10:00 am
How many signature wins – have we had since Gru’ was fired?
Maybe 1 or 2 – Almost 10 freakin years’
But we super gitty every freakin’ time – we Beat-Up on a garabage team.
Hire somebody that give a F%*K
November 20th, 2017 at 10:12 am
It’s so easy to tell who writes the articles now. Not sure why this sure is trying to make it seem like the team is winning in spot if Fitz like he’s the worse qb in the league but it’s kind of pathetic.
How about the bucs went into the game with a worse win loss record than Miami playing with Jay Cutler so are you saying Fitz is worse than him? Good to see goods show the team a little support
But….. This is a two won streak against
November 20th, 2017 at 10:14 am
Against garbage teams, the real test is about to begin where they are playing winning teams expect Green Bay, we’ll see what kind of team we have and what kind of support they get. If you can barely beat Miami and Jets it doesn’t look good
November 20th, 2017 at 10:20 am
The Bucs don’t have beat the Saints,Panthers, Falcons to get my respect. All they have to do is play hard and put forth some effort. Like I stated earlier, one good draft could turn this team around. I said before the season, they were a 7-9 teams. But they could become a 11-5 team with a good draft and free agent signing. They have good young players, it’s the older players that holding them back. Get rid of the dead weight, and quit adding dead weight.
November 20th, 2017 at 10:30 am
Sorry, but beating 2 bad teams will do very little to save Koetter if say, they go 1-5 or 0-6 to close the season.
And if we do end up retaining Koetter, which at this point I am starkly against due to him coaching scared 24/7, we absolutely must strip him of play calling duties.
Oh and then of course there’s the little voice in the back of my mind, that says if Koetter stays, Smith stays, and that of course means that we will suck donkey knob for the first half of the season, and then rally when it’s too late, miss the play-offs, and not even come away with a high pick.
So yeah, basically I’m over Koetter. And anyone who thinks that Jim Harbough wouldn’t be a superior HC has their head firmly in the sand.
November 20th, 2017 at 10:34 am
Joe two things Ryan Fitzpatrick is famous for going on torrid runs of great play only to implode down the stretch we are not down the stretch but this play by Ryan Fitzpatrick is not miracle working by Koetter. Our offense only got 2 touchdowns from FIVE turnovers. If you think our defense will duplicate that effort week in and week out thats crazy. Not only that but given the 5 turnovers we got we still almost lost the game. Koetter proved all i have to see in that New Orleans game that he wants nothing to do with being a stern leader when a stern leader is needed. He burried his head in the sand. He doe NOT have a firm girp on this team.
November 20th, 2017 at 10:42 am
I’m still depressed over the fate of what will transpire at our QB position into the future. Thought we were set for more than a decade…now not so sure.
So I’m going to enjoy the positive this morning. I could not be happier for Ryan Fitzpatrick. He is a class act and he’s enjoying the final hurrah. His boys are now old enough to watch it and enjoy it and the Fitzpatrick family story is just as heartwarming as the Jameis stories are acid reflux producing.
Right now there is no better human interest feel good story than the Fitzpatrick family!!!
November 20th, 2017 at 10:53 am
don’t want to hear the “TOUGHER SCHEDULE” excuse…..that’s total BS….we faced 5 playoff teams last year….as it stands only the VIKES, PATS, CAR, NO DET have a chance at making the playoffs….that’s 5 teams…just like last year….GO BUCS!!!!
November 20th, 2017 at 10:54 am
Really???
What exactly did Akeem Spence do here other than late hit people? Dude was a perennial backup. So a GM should be fired because he let a backup go? Good grief!
November 20th, 2017 at 10:55 am
Koetter has not turned this team around make no mistake Ryan FItizpatrick has turned this team around. Jameis play had buried us.
November 20th, 2017 at 11:01 am
LakeLand Says:
November 20th, 2017 at 10:20 am
The Bucs don’t have beat the Saints,Panthers, Falcons to get my respect. All they have to do is play hard and put forth some effort. Like I stated earlier, one good draft could turn this team around. I said before the season, they were a 7-9 teams.
C’MON MAN!!!….the bucs don’t need to beat any division rival?…..that means they’re missing the playoffs every year!!!….they have to beat those teams to get respect within the division!!!!
and as far as playing hard and with effort, that comes far and between…..they’ve gotten blown out more time than they’ve come to play….
and you said 7-9, why….after last year, everyone expected playoffs 10-6 at the worse….no one expected regression!!!!….we still look like a 4-12 5-11 team!!!!
dirk loses 10 or more games and he’s gone….beating the jets and fins did nothing to save his a$$!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
November 20th, 2017 at 11:04 am
Blake_Bucsfan Says:
November 20th, 2017 at 10:30 am
Sorry, but beating 2 bad teams will do very little to save Koetter if say, they go 1-5 or 0-6 to close the season.
So yeah, basically I’m over Koetter. And anyone who thinks that Jim Harbough wouldn’t be a superior HC has their head firmly in the sand.
^^BINGO^^
GO BUCS!!!!
November 20th, 2017 at 11:07 am
@Lakeland, it’s all about beating the Panthers, Falcons and Saints. That’s all it’s about, that’s all it’s ever about. Winning. It is not about playing “Hard” . There are many games the players on the team play hard…But it’s not good enough. Not good enough for me, not good enough for you, not good enough for anybody. They don’t have the superior talent at positions in order to be a playoff team. In these upcoming games Falcons and Saints will put up over 30 points against TB against our secondary and weak DL. Until changes are made after the final game we will continue this direction of losing more games than winning games. Most important wins are within our division. Saints, Falcons and Panthers all have outstanding QBs. That is where we should start.
November 20th, 2017 at 11:07 am
@Nick2
Well, considering that he’s actually been injured since WEEK 2! And was still a top 10 QB in every major category before getting his shoulder injured 3 MORE TIMES! Well I’m just gonna have to call BS on that right there.
Playing 2 awful teams back to back is what has “turned this team around.”
And considering that we barely won against those awful fishes yesterday despite them turning the ball over 5 times, well that’s just flat out embarrassing.
November 20th, 2017 at 11:10 am
Oh and one more thing, if that awful officiated squad had made the correct determination on what was definitely a safety, we lose yesterday. No doubt about it. Then what measly sunshine and rainbows BS would you be peddling about how safe Koetter is?
It was not a safety. The replay was a routine spotting-of-the-football review. –Joe
November 20th, 2017 at 11:15 am
Swanee Says:
November 20th, 2017 at 11:07 am
@Lakeland, it’s all about beating the Panthers, Falcons and Saints. That’s all it’s about, that’s all it’s ever about. Winning. It is not about playing “Hard” .
^^BINGO^^
GO BUCS!!!
November 20th, 2017 at 11:17 am
Blake_Bucsfan Says:
November 20th, 2017 at 11:07 am
And considering that we barely won against those awful fishes yesterday despite them turning the ball over 5 times, well that’s just flat out embarrassing.
^^BINGO^^
GO BUCS!!!
November 20th, 2017 at 11:19 am
Uh, nah dude, Fitz was pushed back by colliding with his own guy. And the football was inside of the endzone, Mike Pereira had just finished telling the whole world that it was a safety, before the officials determined that it wasn’t.
If the original call on the field had been a safety, you can bet they would not have overturned it.
November 20th, 2017 at 11:34 am
Koetter has to win some division games…he does that and Bucs have a tough decision because now we’re winning without Winston which is proof he can coach…but also proof Winston isn’t the key. It’s really a shame the Bucs get themselves into these situations, we just can’t catch a break.
November 20th, 2017 at 11:44 am
They had the former Senior VP for NFL officiating Mike Periera saying he would have reversed the “routine spotting of the football” and made it a safety. Both announcers agreed. We should have lost but I will hand it to Fitapatrick and Godwin on that last drive. They both came out clutch.
November 20th, 2017 at 11:49 am
BOBBY
your right regarding dirk has to win within the division…..but I disagree with you regarding the “tough decisions”….
dirk hasn’t proven anything just because we beat the jets and fins….they are just as lousy as us….our “BREAK” came in the form of the jets and fins….luckily, we did what we were suppose to do….
now if fitz/dirk can beat the falcons and packers on the road, then we might be on to something…..until then we look like a 4-12/5-11 team….GO BUCS!!!!
November 20th, 2017 at 12:50 pm
Just keeping winning and providing enjoyable games Dirk..
No, the Jets and Dolphins are not impressive teams ,
The Bucs have been far from impressive for awhile.
If Jamies played against Miami, we would have blown them out by three TDs + IMO
November 20th, 2017 at 12:52 pm
I have little confidence in Dirk Koetter but I do not think he should be fired, especially not for Jon Gruden. That would be a disaster.
November 20th, 2017 at 4:18 pm
Akeem Spence is a good football player. I said the Bucs need to play hard. If they play hard, they will win games. I never said they don’t have to win games. If they bring the effort, the wins will come.
November 20th, 2017 at 4:20 pm
Akeem Spence signed a 3 year $9,000,000 deal with the Lions. I would have re-signed him.
November 20th, 2017 at 4:25 pm
I respect anyone that work hard, even if they lose. Just plain old hard work will earn my respect. But then again, if you work hard, most of the time you will be successful.
November 20th, 2017 at 6:02 pm
Any coach from Pocatello Idaho is cool with me. Who cares if Gruden has a Super Bowl.
November 20th, 2017 at 6:13 pm
So we beat the two worst teams in their division. I don’t really think that means one thing or the other about Koetters future. If we end up a game out of the playoffs, he’s probably OK. But if we end up below .500…. not so sure, especially as the rest of the division doesn’t look like it is going to start folding soon. I don’t know if last place in the division will cut it.
November 20th, 2017 at 9:09 pm
He’s an average coach, overall, maybe a whisker below average. Let’s see how the rest of the season plays out–if we can finish the season 8-8 or better, then you just can’t fire him unless you have a lights-out proven great coach, and I don’t see anybody like that around right now.
November 21st, 2017 at 10:53 am
Dirk is not head coaching material. He fell into the job because Lovie Smith was a dumpster fire and should stick to assistant coaching. The fan base elevated Dirk to Rock star status. This has been a complete failure. The team has some talent that should be winning far more games. When was the last time this team won a game on the National TV. Crickets…