Still Learning

October 1st, 2017

Learning curve.

Vernon Hargreaves admits he’s not yet an NFL vet.

The second-year cornerback didn’t have the greatest of games last week. If you believe the well-trained orangutans at the PFF tribe, Hargreaves was targeted by Joe Montana Case Keenum seven times resulting in 126 yards receiving.

Joe chalked it up to a faulty defensive gameplan as much as anything. But Hargreaves told Jenna Laine of ESPN that the NFL game is one he’s still adjusting to.

Hargreaves acknowledged that this is still a learning process for him, especially when it comes to attacking the ball and playing aggressively, even after getting beat on a play.

Joe understands fans after last week want to throw Hargreaves into the Gulf. Joe thinks that is terribly premature. He has never missed a game and today he’ll be playing his 19th NFL game at 22 years old.

To toss a guy overboard after 18 games, provided he isn’t a complete and total sieve like Myron Lewis, is terribly premature.

19 Responses to “Still Learning”

  1. tmaxcon Says:

    I’ll be somewhat patient with growth if he stops embarrassing himself celebrating qb overthrows and receiver drops like he had anything to do with it watching from five yards away because he can’t cover anyone

  2. Destinjohnny Says:

    Love his attitude and heart.
    He was over drafted a hair though.
    Should have been a 2-3 round pick due to his physical limitations

  3. AlteredEgo Says:

    Ronde Barber didn’t figure it out until his 3rd season….patience grasshoppers

  4. tmaxcon Says:

    Ronde Barber was not a first round pick irrelevant comparison

  5. AlteredEgo Says:

    of course it is….once you are on the field draft position is irrelevant ….

  6. Kalind Says:

    He’s just so short and slowwwwww.

  7. tmaxcon Says:

    Expectations are much higher for first round picks versus third round picks. instead of making excuses and trying to justify a disappointing first round pick raise your standards

  8. JonBuc Says:

    He’s more Tim Wansley than Ronde Barber at this point. Grimes on the other side helps him a lot.

  9. LakeLandBuc Says:

    Jason Licht sure did reach for him. There’s no way he should have been the 11th pick.

  10. AlteredEgo Says:

    apples and oranges….the article is not a mix and match story…it is about his progress and development ….I would gladly like to discuss our QB’s effectiveness when compared to his draft slot… 😀

  11. Pickgrin Says:

    CB is one of the most difficult positions on the football field to make a successful transition from College to Pros. Lots of good and great College CBs can’t make it at the next level and most who do take a good 2, 3 or sometimes even 4 years to fully “mature” into reliable and consistent defenders.

    Ronde would tell you honestly that it was not until his 5th or 6th year that he was working with a full tool box of great knowledge and solid capabilities that would become his standard thereafter and lead to a HOF career.

    Ronde would also tell you that Hargreaves is currently well ahead of the learning curve that his own career took and that VH3 has the advantage out the gate of being a better natural athlete than Barber ever was.

    To complain about what is lacking in a CB who has 1 year and 2 games under his belt is really short sighted. Almost as short sighted as berating a talented 2nd round safety draftee who hasn’t developed well enough by the 2nd game of his career to take a starting spot on defense – yet has 3 capable veterans in front of him. SMH

    Vernon is doing fine and when he gets beat – its usually because the QB and/or WR made a good or great play. He will improve over the course of this year just like he did last year.

  12. tmaxcon Says:


    Just more fanboy excuses to justify a bad first round pick who is better suited as a mediocre backup

  13. Ndog Says:

    Average player, said before the draft so why would I think anything different now based upon what he’s done? To slow, to short was my take then and he hasn’t grown and isn’t faster soooooooo

  14. JimBuc2 Says:

    Don’t care where he was drafted, he’s in the NFL now. Time to grow a pair, put on the big boy pads and ball out. VHIII will get there, I believe. Just not fast enough for some people. I mean, really, we’ve been through a long friggin’ dry spell and all Buc fans are starved for sustained success. Get R done young man.

  15. Rrsrq Says:

    But I thought it was all Ryan Smith fault

  16. Dex Says:


  17. Rich Sauers, Jr. Says:

    he’s terrible, but he’ll be pumping his hands in the air when the guy he’s covering doesn’t catch the ball like he did something. This guy celebrates overtime and he’s not doing anything.

  18. mike10 Says:

    Please put him at nickel

  19. Andrew Says:

    Tonight showed we should thank our lucky starts we have Brent grimes.