Plan Is For Jameis To Throw Today

October 19th, 2017

UPDATED: 1:32 p.m. – Great news from One Buc Palace.

Only the mentally challenged and the Ryan Fitzpatrick family would prefer to see America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, on the sidelines Sunday. Throw Tampa Bay Times columnist Tom Jones in that mix, so he said on WDAE-AM 620 today.

The rest of us want to see Jameis on the field. If the doctors say he can play with his sprained AC joint without risking injury, then put him in the game. Jameis battling some pain — queue the painkillers — and at, say, 80 percent, is the best option.

And with the Bucs at 2-3 and alone in the NFC South cellar, there’s no wiggle room.

Per Bucs offensive coordinator Todd Monken, Jameis will throw today in practice. He did not yesterday.

Fingers crossed, folks.

UPDATED: Jameis made some throws during the practice window open to media.

61 Responses to “Plan Is For Jameis To Throw Today”

  1. Rads Says:

    Maybe Jameis will work the middle of the field and shorter routes without his full arm strength.

  2. BuccaneEric75 Says:


  3. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Maybe getting his shoulder banged up does wonders for his accuracy? Who knows? stranger things have happened.

  4. ndog Says:

    You people and the accuracy, I will say it again he does not throws pi9cks due to accuracy very often most of the time he is missing the open guy underneath and forcing passes. While that is not good either please quit saying accuracy when that has little to nothing to do with his picks. Even the deep throws he missing it is timing related and not related to accuracy.

  5. Lamarcus Says:

    Djx needs to go. Even hurting our qb trying to look his way. He is a bad omen and should be removed

  6. Bculaw Says:

    Shocked that Tom Jones would rather Fitz play!! He’s always been such a huge supporter of JW3! [blue font].

  7. Wausa Says:

    Ndog gets it.

    Jamies is going to be a great QB.

    We have some very ignorant fans that post on here.

  8. Lord Cornelius Says:

    “We have some very ignorant fans that post on here.”

    Not only ignorant but trollish depressed people hell bent on being miserable and making complaining and negativity their life focus.

  9. libucfan Says:

    80% may be just want the doctor ordered. Then maybe the OC can call a game-plan that calls for taking what the defense gives you. Oh…and pound the rock.

  10. Dewey Selmon Says:

    ndog. no one said a word about accuracy and picks. it’s about accuracy and not missing open receivers to sustain drives.

  11. Lamarcus Says:

    If u are talking about my post. It’s positive. It’s a good thing to move on the djx experience. We will be better without him

  12. Pickgrin Says:

    LC & Wausa weren’t just talking about you Lamarcus – its the # of negative spewers that basically take over here after a couple losses.

    But thanks for calling yourself out. Because that is a pretty ridiculous comment. Our offense is not struggling because DJax is on the field. Geez.

  13. Duke Says:

    Lamarcus = Tmax.

    We get it so why is it necessary to just repeat the same post again and again and again. Do you need attention? Ok, consider this that and stop being a DB troll.

  14. Pit Says:

    Let’s go JW3. Shut these haters up.

  15. sunshine Says:

    With all the weapons Winston has, he has NOT been an accurate qb which is his main job….make all the excuses but Winston has better receivers then on most teams and has not stepped up.

  16. Broy34isTiredofComplainers Says:

    Lord Cornelius well said —a year ago I saw an article on Facebook about most annoying fan bases and the Bucs were an option. Me and a friend said how are the Bucs an option but not duke fans —after Sunday’s loss it hit me. Because a lot of Bucs fans are obnoxious turn coating losers hellbent on beating up their own players when things go wrong. Tons of fan bases experience losing. Few complain as much as Bucs fans. Duke fans are annoying but are of merit. People need to relax. When they lose its gut the team and fire coaches and gm. When they win they form the stick carriers and scream the big stick line. Fine with the winning side but have some confidence once in a while. And yes I’ve been beyond frustrated but try and find me whining

  17. Lamarcus Says:

    Idk what bucs u guys are watching. Djx is hardly open. He needs to be worked in the system. But no, he wants the ball NOW. Force feeding leads to disasters. But u guys blame jw like this is madden. Djx is not a fit. He is the reason why this offense is stale. Wake up ppl and watch some game tape. It’s not hard to tell

  18. NFLNut Says:

    I remember when Big Ben had same injury … long passes were tough and ugly … Koetter better have a short-passing game installed for Jameis!

  19. Lamarcus Says:

    Here’s another take. wINTSon is who he is and not blain gabbert or matt Ryan. Once Koetter realizes this JW will be the qb in the league. Djx is no Julio jones. Me13 is not Roddy white.

  20. Lamarcus Says:

    I don’t like receivers especially in nfl who rely on qbs to be pin piont accuracy for a catch. Djx makes no adjustments to the ball.

  21. sorryitriggeredyou Says:

    cool he’s not playing bud.

  22. LakeLand Says:

    It don’t pay to be honest on this site. You type the truth and people call you a hater or a troll. This is reality, welcome to the real world. The Bucs stinks and they have stunk for 41 years, minus a few successful seasons. 250 wins in 41 seasons, it don’t take a Rocket Scientist to predict this franchise.

  23. ndog Says:

    Dewey again the problem drive are no being sustained is due to not taking the underneath throws and forcing it down field too often, it is not accuracy. Of course he misses on a throw every now and then but so does the great Tom Brady. The issue is on 3rd & 4 he throws to the guy 15 yards downfield that is a tight window throw instead of throwing to the back or TE that is 3 yards downfield and will easily get the first. If they can just get him to take those throws his completion % would be in the mid 60% and everyone can quit reading stats and actually watch the games for their opinions. If you are not a accurate QB you cannot make those throws to Brate in the endzone or those throws he makes to Hump when he has a guy draped all over him.

  24. DoNUTS Says:

    Note to Ndog…. The timing of a pass is directly related to accuracy especially at the NFL level where poor timing can cause interceptions.

    Stop making excuses for #3. In 2017, #3 has been average or horrible, which is not good enough for a 3rd year player that was drafted first in the entire league. There wont be any PRO BOWLs this year that is 100% sure so maybe a little humble pie will be good for him. I have even heard Ira and JBF podcast infer the same thing that JW is not performing well and I think they give #3 the benefit of the doubt most time. HOWEVER, we have seen enough this year to know that there are major issues and the lack of “Weapons for Winstons” excuse is null and void.

    I am not a huge stat guy but this one caught my eye cuz it stacks each QB and each game fairly or equally. If you go look at the 91 NFL games this year and rank them by QB performance, Winston shows up at 51 for the first time. This means out of 91 games 50 other QB played better than him at any point during the season. Thats is not a ringing endorsement for a 3rd year player that was selected #1 overall. I hope he gets better; much better. Go BUCS!

  25. Rojas Says:

    Off topic, but can we please go back to the old uniforms lol.

  26. Lamarcus Says:

    I’ll stop making excuses for winston the day our defense stop spotting 14 to 31 halftime games and stop playing catch up, He can develop like the rest of he great qbs. Using the targets he gets as Kleenex and get him more in to the rythm of OFFENSE he will be good.

  27. Ryan K Says:

    Good update — I hope Jameis can play. Jameis has struggled IMO this year, but he is a much better option then Fitz. It will be interesting to see how much this injury impacts his game, and how Koetter calls the game. The run blocking needs to improve quickly to help !

  28. Lamarcus Says:

    I’ll stop making excuses for winston the day our defense stop spotting 14 to 31 halftime games and stop playing catch up, He can develop like the rest of he great qbs. Stop using the targets Djx gets as Kleenex and get him more in to the rythm of OFFENSE he will be good.

  29. Bucsfanman Says:

    The defense “spotting” points can be attributable to chronic 3 and outs, leaving the defense on the field for so long. It’d be nice if we could return the favor on offense from time to time, long drives, clock control.
    To your 2nd point Lamarcus, better play-calling would help build that chemistry and rythm as well.

  30. Wausa Says:

    Jamies is getting 100% of the snaps tomorrow per Dirk Koetter.

    I guess there is your answer if he is starting Sunday.

  31. Lamarcus Says:

    It’s been an offseaon , 3 preseason, 5 regular season games still chemistry? It’s the other way around. This experiment should be done with go what works. I notice thru the eye test jw doesn’t have a problem throwing to anyone else beside djx. Djx gotta go

  32. ndog Says:

    How is pointing out what he is actually doing wrong making excuses? Did you even read my comments? The point is people just repeat the same garbage over and over instead actually watching the games for themselves and forming a educating opinion. Cause if anyone watches him play and says his accuracy is the main problem then they probably should not be watching football cause they have no idea what they are talking about. He is basically blind to his underneath receivers and that is 90% of his problem. That must get better and if it doesn’t then he will not and we are in serious trouble. How is that making excuses for him again?

  33. PRBucFan Says:

    lol idiots claiming he isn’t struggling with accuracy are just blind homers

    koetter needs to just scrap the deep ball game plan and just attack short to intermediate routes from here on out. Djax or not, if it’s his weakness why play to it?

  34. PRBucFan Says:

    And apparently he didn’t end up throwing today but is supposed to take the first team reps tomorrow..

  35. Lord Cornelius Says:

    “Bucsfanman Says:
    October 19th, 2017 at 2:52 pm
    The defense “spotting” points can be attributable to chronic 3 and outs, ”

    You’re absolutely incorrect.

    Did you watch the game? We were down 21-0 before we’d even had a single 3 and out…. Our offense moved the ball and pinned Arizona at the 14 and the 5 yard line their first 2 possessions. The defense completely sh1t the bed.

  36. PRBucFan Says:

    lol 1 first down per drive is moving the ball now

  37. Lord Cornelius Says:

    “PRBucFan Says:
    October 19th, 2017 at 3:20 pm
    lol 1 first down per drive is moving the ball now”

    What do you call getting the ball to mid field? “not moving”? His whole point was about “chronic 3 and outs” which was completely wrong. That’s the point.

    I’m not applauding a drive that doesn’t score points but I’m going to call out supposed “fans” who say sh1t that is completely baseless in order to make a negative point.

    Weird that you have a problem with that. You must really love being miserable. Sorry to rain on you guys miserable circle jerk of negativity

  38. Bucsfanman Says:

    LC- You are correct sir! I meant it as a generalization, though admittedly, I was probably watching with my hands over my eyes through most of the game!

  39. Not there yet Says:

    This just in….. Winston is playing like the 4th best qb in the division at 100% so no I do not want to see him playing in Buffalo at 80 or 90%. Maybe I’m the only one but I don’t care. Let him sit back and observe and heal completely….. He’s never sat a game before so maybe the in season game sit will give him New perspective but if he’s good to go then I’m all for it just don’t want to hear a single complaint about him not being a full strength from a fan or bucs player if they lose. He needs every ounce of zip he has with all those risky throws he makes

  40. 813bucboi Says:

    maybe…just maybe with Winston being hurt, dirk wont abandon the run!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!

  41. Bucsfanman Says:

    Not being negative here LC. Our offense hasn’t exactly shined this season. My issue is primarily with play-calling not necessarily Jameis.

  42. Defense Rules Says:

    Joe, since I’m not related to Ryan Fitzpatrick, I guess I’m mentally challenged in your opinion … I’d prefer that Fitz play instead of Jameis on Sunday. Bringing guys back too early from injury is a dumb move IMO. Jameis is a fantastic competitor, and expecting him to voluntarily ‘step down’ even for 1 game is unrealistic. He’s our franchise QB for many, many years to come, and sprained AC joints don’t heal in just 3-4 days. If he comes back at say 80%, Bills’ defense will be looking to body-slam him just like the Cards did. Fitz has shown that he can move this offense. Coaches need to create a game-plan for him which takes advantage of his strengths & minimizes his weaknesses. Besides, Jameis will be dressed & waiting in the wings. If the Bucs’ offense stalls (yet again), Jameis could always be brought in to see what he can do.

  43. NFLNut Says:

    NotThereYet … you’re a loon … Matt Ryan is on pace for 19 TDs and 19 INTS and Cam is on pace for 24 TDs and 22I NTSs … Jameis came into last game on pace for 4,792 yards, 28 TDs and just 12 picks … he is outplaying Cam & Ryan … just not Brees, an all-time great

  44. Mike Johnson Says:

    Bucs fans are not negative. They are just ouright sick and tired of..LOSING. They are sick of the Hype. They are sick of the excuses. They are sick of the coulda/shoulda/woulda theories. They/We/You and I..are just sick of all the BullSh..!!!

  45. Lord Cornelius Says:


    Sorry bro just seeing so much negativity in these parts lately and it’s tough lol.

    Trust me I was in shock from that game. Our defense looked like the classic sieve that I thought we were past. They did tighten up though and we actually had a chance somehow in the 4th to win which was insane lol. Probably would have been our biggest comeback in franchise history.

    I will always find room for optimism because I prefer living that way lol. The only time I will be negative here is if I really want a specific coach / player / etc gone which I’m not even close to being at. Otherwise what’s the point? What am I adding in terms of any constructive conversation? I’d basically just be coming here to cry and whine; which is what i feel like is happening.

    2-3 is survivable. You’d think the Saints/Panthers/Falcons are all 4-1 or 5-0 with the way people are posting and giving up on us having a chance in this division. The Falcons are extremely lucky to not be 1-4 or 2-3 right now. We are literally just 2 games back from the leader and 1 game back from the Falcons/Saints and we have 11 more games to play lol… We haven’t even played a division game yet.

  46. Buc Fan in NC Says:

    The problem is scheme and play calling. PR did an article showing JW pass attempts before he left the game. No one was open and the middle of the field had zero routes ran in it. No slants or drags. It’s Dirk and not JW.

  47. Bucsfanman Says:

    Come down from the ledge my friend! All good!

  48. Not there yet Says:

    NFLNut Says:
    October 19th, 2017 at 3:42 pm
    NotThereYet … you’re a loon … Matt Ryan is on pace for 19 TDs and 19 INTS and Cam is on pace for 24 TDs and 22I NTSs … Jameis came into last game on pace for 4,792 yards, 28 TDs and just 12 picks … he is outplaying Cam & Ryan … just not Brees, an all-time great

    Uuuum ok so I think you really are nuts. Number 1 look at the record and who’s at the bottom of the division. 2 every single other quarterback in our division has been to the Superbowl AND has also win league MVP but your talking about 6 games into one season where all of them are closer to the playoffs than him. Winston has done what again?

    I’m not bashing Winston but he’s not there yet and it’s stupid to say his skillset has put him over anyone in our division. You can’t be considered better than anyone if you’ve never made the playoffs get a grip. He’s the future maybe that’s all we know about him

  49. Supersam Says:

    Still waiting for the ” great news? Joe…..

  50. Supersam Says:

    Sorry I hurt Winston is not playing good football right now, hopefully he proves me wrong Sunday.

  51. PRBucFan Says:

    Point is your acting like getting 1 first down regardless of whether they are in field position is moving the ball. That’s the point.

    They have been or started near midfield on a multitude of drives and that means nothing in terms of “moving the ball” lol.

    Your dead wrong.

  52. PRBucFan Says:

    In good*

  53. PRBucFan Says:

    You can be as long winded as you want and it still doesn’t mean anything ahahaha

    Telling us that because we get to midfield on 1 first down conversion then stall out that means the offense is moving the ball. That made me chuckle. Majority of the time we don’t even get that rofl. But I’m done. We can agree to disagree. Pointless to go in circles about it.

  54. Nole4JabooANDdBucs Says:

    What breed of animal EATS THEIR YOUNG?


  55. BucEmUp Says:

    Jameis has not been good. More weapons with better protection and worse results. Playcalling is perfect execution by qb sucks. Not sure wtf is going on Koetter is normall a lights out playcaller so Im not blaming him. Its also hard to stick to a balanced offensive gameplan when the defense gives up 30 points in 18 minutes of play

  56. Bucsfan107 Says:

    How many 323rd down conversions do we have with winston in? I would like to know winston and his leadership doesn’t seem to show up when the team really needs it only when they sneak by in games and get wins all im saying is that do we want flashy stats and no deep ball with a career created off garbage time defenses or do we want to win its really that simple. Hell if Adam Humphries can hit a deep ball better in this game put him in because apparently if winston goes down and really hurts it season over anyways so win now or win in a year or two?

  57. Bucsfan107 Says:

    ^3rd down

  58. NFLNut Says:



    Like I said, you’re a loon. Ryan is on pace for 19 TDs and 19 INTS while Cam is on pace for 24 TDs and 22 INTS … Jameis is clearly playing better football than both of them … Jameis also clearly played better football than Cam Newton last year.

    You speak of PAST accomplishments which have nothing to do with right now … or do you think Joe Flacco is a top notch QB right now because he won a SB MVP years ago … newsflash, Joe Flacco SUCKS.

    You also speak of T-E-A-M accomplishments and use a lack of such for a 23 year old QB with a whopping 37 games under his belt as a way to denigrate Jameis … that’s stupid.

    I’d take a ton of young QBs who have never played a playoff game over Flacco and Eli Manning (two guys with THREE rings between them) right now … and if you’re honest, so would you.

    Jameis was the 4th best QB in the division his rookie year … he was the 3rd best last year as he was far better than Cam … and he’s the 2nd best this year as he’s clearly outplaying both Cam and Ryan.

    You are an illogical Jameis-hater and you make a fool of yourself in your posts, but … you have the freedom to do so, so carry on if you want …


  59. NFLNut Says:



    Also, I have no idea why YOU and even talking heads on ESPN and other networks, whose job it is to know what they’re talking about, keep saying Jameis is the only QB in the division not to win NFL MVP … Drew Brees (who is infinitely better than both Matt Ryan and Cam) has NEVER won the NFL MVP award! I still have a hard time believing we live in a world where guys like Matt Ryan, Rich Gannon and a KICKER have won the NFL MVP award but Drew Brees never has … insanity.


  60. Bucsfan107 Says:

    We have a losing record at home and on the road with winston as a starter who has a losing record in his games he has played 17-20 its not good compared to other qbs near the same amount of games started and that was with the defense alone winning games near the end of the season I just want what s best for the team if he doesnt make a drastic improvement we should start looking for someone that can actually win. I am hoping for the best but it doesn’t look very good.

  61. NFLNut Says:


    ^ Talking about T-E-A-M records as being a validation of a QB, especially a 23 year old QB with just 37 games under his belt is IDIOTIC.

    Troy Aikman’s T-E-A-M went 1-15 his rookie year … what a loser Troy was … dumb.

    Peyton Manning’s T-E-A-M had just one more win than Jameis’ T-E-A-M has had through his first 37 games … and in Mannings 26 year old season he went just 6-10 … what a loser Manning was … stupid.

    TEAMS, not individual players win games, period.