Better, But Not There Yet

October 10th, 2017

Talks Jameis-DJax.

The Jameis Winston-to-DeSean Jackson combination apparently remains a work in progress.

Speaking on “Koetter’s Korner” seen on, Channel 8, sports anchor Dan Lucas has his weekly exclusive sitdown with winning Bucs coach Dirk Koetter and asked if the few short passes turned into explosive plays by Jackson is a sign the star free agent wide receiver and the prodigy quarterback are building a rapport.

Koetter, in so many words, liked what happened between America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, and Jackson, but says a lot of progress is needed.

“I really don’t think either one of those two guys lack confidence,” Koetter said. “They are both confident players. We have to get them confident at the same time – I’m saying that tongue-in-cheek.

“DeSean and Jameis are both proven players. We did get DeSean a little bit more involved but at the same time, we also missed a couple of nice opportunities.”

Joe has a hunch until Jameis and Jackson get on the same page with deep balls, we won’t see the full explosiveness of this offense, which fans have been pining for since Jackson was signed in March.

Video of the entire interview is below courtesy of WFLA-TV Channel 8.

20 Responses to “Better, But Not There Yet”

  1. Blake_Bucsfan Says:

    Incorporate far more Slants and skinny post’s to Desean Jackson and that will go a long way to getting him more involved.

    We need some Yac. While we’re on that subject, why don’t we give Adam a few more Screens. He was pretty damn good after the catch last year, and we need to get this offense into more of a rythym.

    Lull the Defense to sleep with the short game, and the running game, then take your shots deep off of play action.

  2. holymoly13 Says:

    Sure would like to see more slant routes to DJax .

  3. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I don’t understand this “same page” issue when it comes to deep passes…..are we saying that Djax isn’t running the correct route…..does he need to speed up more to catch the overthrows… the last time I checked Jackson doesn’t have alligator arms …….enlighten me please!

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  5. Buc1987 Says:

    More mid-level slants would be great.

  6. Ed Says:

    2 things, Jameis holds on to the ball a little too long on his deep throws example in the Vikings game and the ball gets thrown too far and without enough trajectory for Jackson to run underneath it.

    His anticipation of where receivers are moving to has to get better for him to be the best. He does an amazing job throwing into tight windows and throwing on the run, the weakness is touch.

    Cam Newton had similar issues but he knows how to put that loft under the ball so his guys can go get it. Jameis is throwing darts when he needs to throw softballs.

  7. Ben the Ga Buc Says:

    2 things, Jameis holds on to the ball a little too long on his deep throws example in the Vikings game and the ball gets thrown too far and without enough trajectory for Jackson to run underneath it.
    This whole post seems contradictory … if Jameis’ problem was holding onto the ball a little too long, he’d be underthrowing it, right?

    Also, Jameis’ problem is not with anticipation. That’s always been something he excels at. The touch passes could certainly improve, although we saw a beautiful one to Brate at the end of the Giants game. To throw into tight windows, you have to have zip on the ball. Touch passes into tight windows don’t generally work too well.

  8. DB55 Says:

    When the game is on the line I want to get my #1 receiver involved but wtf do I know?

  9. LakeLand Says:

    The only issue I see is not getting the ball to a wide-open D-Jax.

  10. Pickgrin Says:

    @40 second mark – “Patrick’s the guy we settled on”

    Not exactly a ringing endorsement for the new kicker…

    Even though Jameis and DJax are allegedly “out of synch” thus far, DeSean is still exactly on pace for a 1000 yard season.

    It only takes a couple connections for the % and yards to jump dramatically.

    Long passes 30 yards+ down the field are extremely low percentage passes for every QB in the league. There will always be more misses than hits on bombs no matter who the players are.

    DJax has been responsible for his share of those misses this year in addition to Winston’s perceived inaccuracies.

    Big plays between these 2 WILL happen – its just a matter of time and opportunity.

  11. unbelievable Says:

    Well said Blake, completely agree on the play calling.

  12. Mo_Downs Says:

    Play the 2nd string for the first 3 quarters. Why risk the high priced studs on the first 3-qtrs from our (Lull em’ to sleep) HS playbook and flag football play calling.

    Excuses will be in place and Ol’ Kooter can aptly defend his choices by some blather about attrition, and a long season.

    The final 15 minutes should be dazzling. Let’s hope the D can hold the Cards to FG’s through 3 quarters and Ol’ Kooter, Inc can score more than 14 points in the final quarter with a well rested group of starters. Anyone think Doug can run for 100 in the 4th or Evans/Jackson/Hump and Brate can catch a TD apiece in the 4th qtr..??

    Final Score: Bucs win 28-18

    And, Ol’ Kooter starts a new trend in the NFL: “Save em till you need em” AKA “15min of hell on earth”

    Ok, perhaps I’m being a little rough on Da Coach, et al. Zzzzzzzzz

    Wake me up when the 4th qtr starts.

    Jus calling it like it is…..

  13. Pick6 Says:

    hit 2 of those deep balls to DJax in the next week or two and suddenly every defense has to set up as if it’s coming on any down. keep missing the guy and D Coordinators will focus on defending the first 20 yards beyond the LOS (where Evans and Brate usually are) and take their chances getting beat over the top

  14. Bucsfanman Says:

    Well said DB55! This team is trying way too hard to force the ball. Many short passes turn into long passes when thrown accurately and on time.

  15. 813bucboi Says:


    I guess dirk is still “coaching the lovie out” of the offense huh…..GO BUCS!!!!

  16. REAL Says:

    It’s easy as fans to sit here and say do this do that but in reality it’s not as simple as said there are other things that come into play I mean don’t get me wrong I would love to see the play book open up more but it is what it is

  17. Capt.Tim Says:

    Its not Madden fellas
    It takes time for Players to get used to each other. Its as much Jackson as it is Jameis.
    They are trying to hard to hit the big play.
    Work him( And Howard/Godwin) in with short stuff.
    The big plays will come

    Its taking Koetter/Jameis/Jackson/Howard/Godwin time to learn how play together.

    And it always takes time for real people to learn each other.

    Too many posters here- that only played Football with a joystick.

  18. darin Says:

    Exactly, its not madden. Tell that to dirk, he is trying to get a td every pass play. It is simple to call and run a slant, and a draw play. Super simple, super productive. Actually as far as the bucs are concerned it might be all time productive. Whatdoyasay…one slant 41 yds one draw 36 yds. Ill take the slant for 500 alex. Of course it takes time to get chemistry with a receiver, the coach can speed that up with play calling. Doesnt take a scientist to figure out the play calling has hindered the offense. This weeks gota be a good one tho. Big game. Just saw the bucs have the 2nd toughest remaining strength of schedule and 6 of next 8 on the road. Beat down those birds. Go Bucs

  19. Capt.Tim Says:

    But , just like players- It takes a coach time to adjust to new players.
    But mid season- this offense will be much more fluid. By the end of the season- it should be lethal.

    Again- its people. Not Madden

  20. joestang Says:

    Jameis will never be an accurate downfield passer who can hit receivers in stride from 40+, haven’t seen it yet, not once.