Not Quite Yet

September 12th, 2017

When is his time?

Yes, Bucs fans are more eager for the season to start than perhaps since Team Glazer traded for Chucky.

There was excitement in the air when training camp began, and all this nonsense with Hurricane Irma pushing the opening game back a week and slamming the Tampa Bay community has only ratcheted up the hunger for Bucs football.

It seems the troika of the notorious “First Take,” Molly Qerim, Max Kellerman and screamin’ Stephen A. Smith are excited for the Bucs as well.

However, Kellerman and Smith think the Bucs are a year away. Why? America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, may need a bit more seasoning.

“People see it coming,” Kellerman said of the maturity of Jameis. “I’m on the same page.”

Added SAS, Jameis “wins more than he loses but he will strike out more than enough times to cost you something.”

You can watch the full discussion below courtesy of BSPN.

32 Responses to “Not Quite Yet”

  1. cmurda Says:

    We shall see. I think JW’s coming out party is this year. He will still make mistakes but so does any QB. Brett Favre used to take more chances than a prostitute in church.

  2. Wausa Says:

    I wished he said the Bucs are awful and will never win with Jameis.

    This guy is a political extremist and is one of the reasons in my opinion that people stopped watching their network(except for games).

  3. Dreambig Says:

    Only time will tell. The only way you can say Jameis has arrived is after he wins some big time games. Thats what makes legends.

  4. Roy T. Buford Says:

    Ah, another year like Russel Wison and the sqatting Kap had?
    BS! Let’s roll.

  5. Rod Munch Says:

    Historically QBs in their 3rd year really shine – but honestly it’s going to come down to Dirk and if he’s the ultra conservative throw a fit everything there is a mistake guy he was last year, or if he actually opens things up. Last year Dirk quit on the team in the Denver game – it’s amazing people don’t seem to remember that. After Winston threw a couple of INTs (the same thing Luck, Newton and Dalton did in the prior 3 weeks) Dirk literally quit on the team when late, down by two scores, the Bucs made a huge 3rd down play in Broncos territory to make it 4th and reasonable and Dirk punted the ball because he was mad about what happened earlier in the game. After the game he was asked why he punted in that situation and if memory serves me he said something like we had no chance to get the first down – this was right after a long 3rd play where th Bucs picked up good yards. The next week the Bucs go to Carolina and what does Dirk do? He continues to throw his fit by just running the ball up the gut for 3 and 7/8ths quarters. Even on the game winning drive Dirk wasn’t trying to win, he ran the ball and Rodgers picked up a good gain then finally he let Jameis throw it again.

    If we get 2016 Dirk then no, Winston won’t take a step forward because he won’t be given a shot. One worrying thing about Dirks career in the NFL is he always starts out well with new teams (Jacksonville, Atlanta) and then the offensive rankings go down, down, down. So anywho I hope Dirk is self aware enough to know this and I hope he actually steps up as a coach – if he does that the team will be in good shape.

  6. NOSBOS Says:

    Next year my @$$. But look at’em,quivering like dope fiends in anticipation of that first hit of that 300BUCS!!!

  7. Lord Cornelius Says:

    Man he is about to light sh1t up imo.

    Up about 10% on his completion through practice and preseason. Worst YAC in the league last year and should be closer to at least average this year. Better O-line / run game / pass blocking. Year 3 in the same system.

    Koetter looked like he was ready to air it out based on how we were attacking defenses in preseason and I think that’s the plan. We still need to run the ball to control time and keep our D fresh but I’d be shocked if we aren’t passing more this year than the last 2.

    I just don’t honestly know how you can defend this offense every play. There should always be some sort of exploitable miss match – even if at worst you are throwing 50/50 balls to guys like Godwin or Brate against a teams backup corner or LB.

  8. cmurda Says:

    There are 3 words for why we will be more explosive and a lot of pressure will be alleviated from JW. Godwin, Howard, Jackson.

  9. Defense Rules Says:

    There’s a big difference between whether the Bucs are a year away because of Jameis or they’re a year away because of a couple of other missing pieces. Jameis has consistently improved, and IMO he won’t be the limitation as to how far the Bucs go this year. Our defense? Possibly. Our running game? Possibly. Our OLine? Possibly. A LOT will also depend this year on the offensive & defensive play-calling. Creative play-calling IMO can compensate to some degree for ‘weaknesses’ at certain positions, and it can also wreak havoc on opponents who have ‘weaknesses’ at certain positions.

  10. SB Says:

    I consider it a pretty fair assessment at this stage of the game.

  11. NOSBOS Says:

    We have more than enough present pieces in the building to win this years championship. In case you haven’t noticed these others teams you folks feel are so superior to us are full of holes. hawks no O line like I’ve stated many times,g men no o line offense atrocious wito out obj,green defense average and they are unconcerned with a run game,dallas just lost scrandrick and are average at best on defense. I could on but why bother.

  12. NOSBOS Says:

    For those of you wit low expectations of this team do me a favor and be man or women enough to maintain that sentiment after Sunday. Don’t come around sunday evening after we trounce chicago and be like “woo-hoo we playoff bound”. I’ll say it again I saw absolutely nothing from any team over the weekend that would lead me to believe we aren’t ready to compete for a chip right here right now.

  13. NOSBOS Says:

    To be quite frank wit ya,from roster standpoint(cause all we to go as of right now) we’re one most balanced teams in this league. If Desean and O.J had ended up with any other team in division you mofos would be booking them as superbowl locks. Pathetic @$$ fanbase.

  14. Lord Cornelius Says:

    I like the passion Nosbos.

    I really don’t see this much negativity on other teams typically even with less talent or lesser records.

  15. holymoly13 Says:

    Not sure one way or the other, I think Jameis will be much improved. I just worry about how our season has began. Will all the drama have an effect ? Or will the Boys get back in town and take care of business. kellerman and and smith are asses by the way.

  16. unbelievable Says:

    I think it’s a pretty fair take to be honest. Winston is a risk taker, and I do believe he’ll be even better in another year. The kid is still just 23 years old. Now that doesn’t mean we can’t win it all this year, but there’s no reason to think he won’t be even more improved by next year.

    Our offense will go as far as the o-line can take them. Give Jamies some time, open up some holes in the run game, and then we WILL be unstoppable. Simple as that!

  17. NOSBOS Says:

    A yo 813 what up duke.. What was that you were saying about Dalvin??? Speak up so everyone can hear you bro.

  18. DBS Says:

    No more age excuses. No more college excuses. He has started from the begging not sat the bench. He should know by now what stupid things NOT to do as an NFL QB. And he has the weapons. So for him. There are no more excuses.

  19. darin Says:

    Man some people act like the bucs were the only team to pass on dalvin. Some did twice. This is about wins n losses not fantasy football. We will see at tbe end of the year if passing on rbs was a mistake. I was in favor of bucs trading up in round 2 to snag him. Didnt happen tho. If we are just going off one game like you certainly are why not just grab kareem in round 3 instead? Exactly. Go Bucs sans cook.

  20. NOSBOS Says:

    Lord C I agree Big bro,someone anyone explain to me who about to shut down this offensive attack of ours. I can only think of three or four units with talent to even stay with our guys. broncos,vikes, a motivated giants and a motivated hawks with a healthy Earl Thomas. I’m not sold on the cats D as some are. They really inexperiened on they’re back end.

  21. NOSBOS Says:

    Oh and darin I’m not sour about us not having Dalvin on this team,feel free to check archives. I told the many naysayer I will be pointing out his weekly acomplishments all season. I’m just sticking to what I stated is all.

  22. William Walls Says:

    There will be no coaching the gunslinger mentality out of Jameis – no more than Holmgren was ever able to coach it out of Favre. In the end, you just have to embrace a gunslinger for who and what he is and support it. Brett made a lot of crazy throws, but he also put the team on his back and won games. Jameis will do the same.

  23. Rod Munch Says:

    Here’s a list of QBs that threw more INTs than Winston in their first 32 starts…

    Brett Favre
    Peyton AND Eli AND Archie Manning
    Drew Brees
    Joe Montana
    John Elway
    Jim Kelly
    Joe Namath
    Warren Moon
    Troy Aikman
    Dan Fouts
    Kurt Warner
    Phil Simms
    Randall Cunningham
    Drew Bledsoe
    Roger Staubach

    Here’s a list of QBs that threw less INTs than Winston in their first 32 starts…

    Andy Dalton
    Matt Ryan
    Jeff Garcia
    Bernie Kosar
    Boomer Esiason

    So again those in the top section – more INTs than Winston through 32 starts… those on the bottom have thrown less INTs than Winston through 32 starts. You tell me if you think turnovers are really an issue or not…

  24. bucnut2 Says:

    This is a 2018 team. many of us will be disappointed this year. We all need to lower expectations. 9-7 in a very difficult conference and division sound about right for this team. Sorry guys, my guess is NO playoffs this year.

  25. bucnut2 Says:

    NOSBOS- I’ll answer your question. JW’s poor decision making will, at times, shut down this offense.

  26. Mike Johnson Says:

    I have not, will not give up on Jameis yet. He needs quite a bit of maturity. I see it coming….Slower than I would like it though. Stil, he could be..opps..a word I hate to use… One of the best ever done it. Unlike that Detroit QB, Jameis has yet to show me he plays very well when the chips are down. Now Y’all know why Detroit paid my man all that bank!! I will say this..If Jameis does not reach his potential within the next 4 yrs? He never will. Course now..Bucs gotta find another Simeon Rice AND Sapp!!!

  27. SB Says:

    Impressive Sh!t there Rod!

  28. SB Says:

    The more I listen to Ira and the Joe’s take I think the Bucs are going to play some Backyard Football and have some fun and whoop the Bears. But I’m a Carpenter.

  29. SB Says:

    As I am listening to the Ira podcast I am going to say again like I said before. My Buddy up here who is a Pats fan said he thought losing to us in week 5 was one of his most Likely losses.

  30. LongSeason Says:

    Rod Munch, agree. The Winston we drafted will throw a pick here and there because he is a gunslinger. Yet he will also make big plays and big throws that can win you a games. Coach away the gunslinger mentality and you may neuter his big play making ability. It is about converting third downs, scoring points and never being down on himself. Let the man play to his abilities and we will win.

  31. NFLNut Says:

    Rod Munch … THAT was a quality post my man … I love it when people come with legit research … GREAT WORK!

  32. gilhealy Says:

    Rod, post that response on every ridiculous story about JW’s accuracy. It sums up what knowledgeable fans already know. Once the kid figures out the league, he’s HOF bound.