“Two Guys Were Thinking It Was A Different Play”

November 7th, 2016

Gruesome numbers

America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, had a hand in two key fumbles against the Falcons on Thursday.

It’s great Jameis has stopped throwing picks, but the fumbles are every bit as bad.

The crushing, early-first-half fumble was the result of a botched handoff between now-injured running back Antone Smith and Jameis.

Today, Dirk Koetter appeared to lay blame at the feet of his QB.

Asked about Jameis impressively cutting his interceptions to just one in the last four games, Koetter responded with chatter about the fumbles.

“We had the two fumbles, two fumbles that resulted in six points,” Koetter said. “Again, the D did a good job in those sudden-change situations. But we can’t, you know, we fumbled it once on the quarterback sneak, and we fumbled it another one just on a handoff mesh when we had bad communication. The two guys were thinking it was a different play. And that’s not going to work.”

Hopefully, these are just more growing pains/learning experiences for Jameis, though Joe does not expect Koetter to call a short-yardage sneak for Jameis again anytime soon.

20 Responses to ““Two Guys Were Thinking It Was A Different Play””

  1. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    My money is on Smith messing up on the handoff exchange. I would bet Jameis knew the play over a guy we just picked up off the streets a couple weeks earlier.

    I’ve been wanting a QB sneak for years now, ever since we stopped using it with Freeman. If we get any kind of a push, we are going to pick that up. Our OL is so inconsistent at times, but I give Jameis credit for fighting to get that extra yard. The defender made a good play. It happens, well except for us.

  2. Bucnole850 Says:

    I don’t know how you reach that implication? He normally calls him out if #3 makes the mistake. Stick to facts otherwise your assuming. Stop writing fodder man, you get the fanatics all rolled up over nothing.

  3. Kobe Faker Says:

    Strange there is no betting line on the tampa chicago game.

    Wasnt both jameis and evans at the practice field? Did jameis have a mri?

  4. BuccaneEric75 Says:

    We got Josh Huff! Don’t know if he’ll help.

  5. Greg Schiano Says:

    Huff will fit right in…dropped from the Eagles for DUI and an illegal hand gun…but what does that matter. We have a guy who is called “America’s QB” although I suspect America did not get to vote on that moniker!

    Maybe Adam Sandler will come to Tampa to shoot “The Longest Yard III.” I am not sure which disappoints more, the coaching, the defense, or Americas QB?

    Greg Schiano

  6. Pistol Pete Says:

    We have a “Game Manager” in Andrew Weidinger.
    Is he to blame for the poor game/clock management decisions?
    Living in the ATL, Smith was frequently hammered for poor clock management.
    Koetter and Weidinger were a part of that Falcons staff….maybe try someone or something different? The Giants have a 6 person Game Management Team, Maybe the Bucs should consider adding more guys to the mix in order to win these close games?

  7. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    “We got Josh Huff! Don’t know if he’ll help.”


    I do. He won’t.

  8. Bob in valrico Says:

    Interesting:the two guys thought it was a different play,not each one thought it was a different play.At any rate ,handoff in the vicinity of the hip is not going to work pull it back and prevent the fumble.

  9. Tony Says:

    this article is pathetic… Joe has gone “click” crazy over producing decent content like he once did.

  10. Kobe Faker Says:

    Newbie koetter the clown suffering from weekly foot in mouthitis again

    How about coaching and addressing the problem with your players behind doors instead of running them over

    Dumb and dumber needs to be run out of town

    This is going to be a train wreak here for the next 6 years unless we bring someone in here quickly to stop this mess…we are in a serious life or death situation

  11. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    “this article is pathetic… Joe has gone “click” crazy over producing decent content like he once did.”


    Yet you still read it and took the time to respond.

  12. d-roca Says:

    Fumbles are worse than picks. Picks you usually gain a little field position.

  13. Bucamania Says:

    Dirk, it sure looks like your players are confused out there… and now we know they are. Who’s fault is that?

  14. Buc2015 Says:

    I have followed Jameis all thru FSU years to now, and wanted to raise a couple points: 1) Jameis is NOT good at running QB sneaks; it’s why (I presume) we didn’t run it much with him at FSU, nor with the Bucs now. Just doesn’t have the knack for whatever reason; and 2) Jameis has ball security issues when running, ESPECIALLY in 4th down/scoring situations. We saw it last Thursday, we saw it when he went airborne against Cowboys at the goal line last year, and we saw it in the “lowlight” fumble against Oregon in the playoff semi. It’s the same part of him that makes him great – that never say die, fight for every yard attitude – that gets him in trouble on these plays IMO.

    Not sure he’ll ever be a solid QB sneak runner, but hopefully he’ll learn to manage the latter problem.

  15. MadMax Says:

    “Two Guys Were Thinking It Was A Different Play”

    Does this include our defensive guys who were running into each other and knocking each other down while trying to tackle?

    Sorry, just read the headline and reacted.

  16. MadMax Says:

    and of course Im in moderation now…figures

    look we suck, im over it, whatever.

  17. BucsFan90 Says:

    Has Koetter called out the defense even once this season? Its getting obvious where his loyalties lie

  18. Defense Rules Says:

    @Bucamania … “Dirk, it sure looks like your players are confused out there… and now we know they are. Who’s fault is that?” Let’s see, the QB calls the plays so I’d assume that Jameis had a decent idea what the play was. Antone Smith was our 4th or 5th string RB who’d been with us for what … 2 games at that point? And been sitting on his couch all season until the dinner bell rang. Tell me again Bucamania how Dirk Koetter is at fault here?

  19. Kobe Faker Says:

    Buc2015, great points

    Im telling you guys this koetter is a clown and no guru

    Which player to use and how to use the correct player is a mystery to this fool

    We have this guy coaching our franchise qb? Koetter doesnt want a real qb coach/oc in here to work with jameis because they will be astonished and bewildered

    Mark my words. This koetter will be remembered as the worst inconsistant ,wavering, unqualified, bipolar, imcompetent head coach wannabe ever even in this sorrya $$ franchise

  20. Ndog Says:

    I love how now that has said Jameis has regressed everything is his fault. Yeah blame the guy who is in the building more than anybody or the guy who signed 2 weeks ago. Joe come on you sound like a novice football the last few weeks.