Improving Jameis

November 19th, 2016
"The doubters make me laugh."

“The doubters make me laugh.”

Joe was on record earlier this season saying it appeared America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, had regressed.

Well, Jenna Laine of ESPN dug up data that reveals Joe was wrong.

According to ESPN Stats & Info, Winston has a total quarterback rating of 84.0 when under pressure this season, a massive jump from 58.5 last year and 21 points higher than any other quarterback in the NFL. His completion percentage under pressure this year is 48.5 percent, and last year it was 42.7 percent.

Laine also (again) brings up data showing how much Jameis has changed as an NFL quarterback. She points out Jameis was terrible under pressure at Florida State but under pressure and moving out of the pocket is when Jameis becomes lethal.

Jameis showing so much skill outside the pocket has led Dirk Koetter to install more plays designed to get Jameis on the outside, Laine notes.

44 Responses to “Improving Jameis”

  1. Seminole Bill Says:

    Jameis still does not know when to throw the ball away. He made a spectacular play last week, throwing to Mike Evans. That play could have just as well been a safety as he was either in or near the end zone when scrambling. He doesn’t have to win the game on his own.

  2. SOEbuc Says:

    So should we not get a good LT now? Whenever someone gets by D.Smith he can just yell “JAMEIS RUN!!” lol

  3. Doctor Stroud Says:

    For America’s (2nd Most Hated) Game-Manager QB to maximize his “skill outside the pocket”, the OL will need to be healthy and make sure that he stays upright. I know that the Sweezy story is a sore spot, but we know more about Bigfoot and the Skunk Ape than we know about this guy.

  4. Poor Glennon Says:

    Seminole i was thinking the same thing. Some think it was a spectacular play. Some think it was just lucky.

  5. Chris Says:

    There was skill involved. When Barry Sanders made the runs he did, were they luck or skill? He definitely has the athletic ability to make D linemen miss or shrugs them off, that’s skill.

  6. BucTrooper Says:

    Jenna could be the first ESPN wonk COVERING the Bucs who actually LIKES the Bucs and WATCHES the Bucs.

  7. DelawareBucsfan Says:

    Haters hahahahhahaha. Sit there in your poop juice, mad because he is proving you wrong. Go Jameis! Yup

  8. Kobe Faker Says:

    Jenna Laine sighting!

    Hey joes, let me see your hands where i can see them

    Becareful, Jenna s red lipstick can be mesmerizing…

    Ok where was i

    Its not because of choice, jaboo has been running for his life. There is no clean pocket to step into because this putrid very offensive line

    Jameis supporting cast is 2nd or 3rd worst in talent in the whole nfl. While the rest of the GMs are drafting and signing players to help their franchise QB, Forrest moves up and drafts a kicker.

    We will never win with Jason gump as our GM. He is a buffoon, walking cartoon character. He looks like and is Boo Boo with legs. 3rd worst talented roster in the nfl

  9. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Everyone lives in the moment and doesn’t look at the big picture. Dirk/Jameis for 7-10 years like Payton/Brees have blueprinted for us. Get a halfway decent defense and we should be in the mix come playoff time. That’s a lot better than last place 5 years running. Dirk has yet to be in last place as an NFL head coach.

  10. Tampa Tony Says:

    Jameis has good stretches like last year but still starts games slow and for a team that has bad talent you need a consistently good qb to give you a chance

  11. Joshus Says:

    I happen to think that its because he’s under more pressure than last year. Donavan Smith hasn’t progressed. Dotson is washed up. Let Smith take over the right side, release Dotson, and draft a new LT in the 2018 draft, cause in tthe 2017 draft we need more defense. I’m hoping for a shot at Peppers or the Ohio State safety
    GO BUCS!!!

  12. BucsFanInNC Says:

    We need to protect Jameis and build our O-line. Look at Dallas. No name defense and 1 receiving threat in Dez. Dak isn’t as good as Jameis. Building our O-line protects our defense and our greatest asset. Draft a stud LT and Center. Our team will benefit from it for years to come.

  13. Ndog Says:

    But didn’t the big moron on 620 say he sucked a few weeks back? That guy makes me sick and he can go live in Tennessee with the rest of the Mariota lovers.

  14. Trubucfan22 Says:

    Jameis has obviously improved from year one. It is just natural to prepress with more experience. It just goes to show how bad he was at times last season. We all remember the great things he has done and over look the “rookie” mistakes. But in all reality there were some really rough games for Jameis last season, the final 4 games were not pretty. This season Jameis has gone through similar ups and downs. The downs just aren’t as far down as they were last season.

    Sometimes I worry about Jameis and whether he can be an Elite QB, but if can just gain some consistency, that is all that is really keeping him from being an elite QB. And a lot of the production that Jameis gets obviously goes through his entire offense. From the coaches to the lineman and WRs. They all play a part in how good Jameis can be. Elite QBs can throw into tight windows, but Bucs WRs seem to have their windows shut most of the time. Can’t throw the ball through the side of the house.

    I think Jason licht will be ready this off season to load up the offense with talent. He focused on defense all last season. Next season should go back to the offense. Mainly being WR. I also think a first round OT is a solid play. We should be adding at least 1 starting caliber o lineman and every off season. I like most of the guys we have on the o line now. But there is always someone better, or someone who can push a starter to be better, or just be a heck of a back up. Better o lineman will equal a better and more healthy Jameis. And that should be goal number 1 every off season. How can we make our QB better.

  15. Rojas Says:

    Is there really a stud OT to take in this years first round ? I don’t think so. Maybe Notre Dames LT. Mike McGlinchey, but reports are he’s returning to school. I think Robinson won’t do good in the NFL, an Florida State Roderick is more of a RT. Which we should upgrade also.

    LT: M McGlinchey ( Notre Dame )
    LG: D Smith
    C: A Marpet
    RG: K Pamphile
    RT: R Johnson. (Florida State)

    But it most likely won’t happen lol.

  16. Tampa Tony Says:


    Dak has Bryant, Witten, Terrance Williams along with two good backs do your research

  17. unbelievable Says:


    Agreed completely on the o-line. Doesn’t have to always be a 1st rounder, but you should always be adding quality guys to it. It’s clear as a day we need an upgrade at 1 of the tackle positions.

    We should be able to find a quality WR in rounds 1 – 3, or in Free Agency.

    However, we DEFINITELY need more pieces on defense. Safety is glaring weakness, and the DL needs more production whether in a DE or DT. I would prefer 2 DL to be honest. I love Jac Smith’s ability as a pass rusher when he comes back, but he can’t seem to stay healthy therefor you can’t rely on him.

    As the saying goes, it all starts in the trenches. We need OL, DL, S, WR

  18. Poor Glennon Says:

    Dak is not as good as Winston aaaaahahaha.Are you serious!!!!!. Winston is not a top 20 QB in this league. Dak is a top 10. Mariota is about to move into the top 10. Thanks to being money in the red zone. But hey Winston has moved up from 24 to 20 and is given me a glimmer of hope. That he can be an over 60% passer. These real teams tend to expose him as a pretender thou.

  19. Poor Glennon Says:

    Dez is a bit better than Evans. Witten at this point in his career is equall to Brate. Terrence Williams phhhhhh please. O-line is way better than ours. Best tweet from last weekend……LT Dan could run behind the Cowboys OLine.

  20. ndog Says:

    Poor Glennon if you put Dakota on this team he would have 15 turnovers. But see people like you that have no idea what your watching. Also you think maybe the reason Mariota is good in the red zone is because teams HAVE to load up against their dominate running game? Dude Jameis has played with backup runningbacks all year but two games and what happened in those games? That’s what I thought and that’s not even mentioning one receiver, a undrafted tight end and an oline that had its center go in and out basically every game. But see you think quarterbacks play alone cause you probably have never thrown a football in your life.

  21. ndog Says:

    Kobe why do you hate Licht so much? Do you think he sould be perfect? I mean in 3 years he has drafted the best qb we have ever had, the best wr we have ever had, a very good guard, a good middle linebacker, a good corner, picked up a tight end that is getting better and better weekly, a decent left guard, a decent left tackle, a decent center, and this year in free agency a solid corner and de to temporarily fill those gaps. In addition a great punter and a kicker that could be very good if given time. I not sure what you want and I almost forgot Noah Spence who half through his rookie year already has 4 sacks.

  22. Rojas Says:

    Dak wouldn’t play that way behind our oline.. Put Winston behind Dallas oline an I’m sure he’d be a top 15, top 10 qb also.. fix our oline and get Winston more weapons, he would be better than Dak.

  23. Ed Says:

    Winston is improving as an improviser, he does make plays that way.

    Now he just needs to focus on shortening up his release so that he can get rid of the ball quicker (see Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson, Derek Carr).

    Once those mechanics get worked out he’ll be a 65% passer. I think one of his issues with his deep ball is he throws it too hard. You gotta arc it and float it so wr can run under it or too it.

    The deep throws he misses, he’s not giving wr a chance to make a play on the ball.

    I’d like to see him string 3 or 4 good games together in a row so we have something to cheer for around here.

  24. DB55 Says:

    The good news for you guys is that Jameis will not be a buc in 2 years. Jameis is yet another player that is just not good enough for the tampabay Buccaneers.

    Hey is anyone watching the NFLN special “The 0-26 Buccaneers”? I can’t wait to see it. This town has such a rich history of winners over the years it totally make sense that Jameis doesn’t meet your standards.

  25. ndog Says:

    Ed in case you haven’t noticed we have scored 24 or more in our last four games with guys off the street playing runningback and wide out. Who do you think is making that happen? Man you people are impossible. Want to see a few good games in a row, he says!

  26. Kobe Faker Says:


    This year was a total failure of a job from a GM

    We are now behind a 8ball and have to fill holes 2x

    We could have had 2 top wrs and ader tackle, safety and off line

    Dude, please jameis was fvking lovies piclk

    Dsmith isnt a nfl tackle
    Vg3 is a iffy #3 corner that should have never been that high
    Mike evans is not elite. He cant rac and catch quick slants and crosses to save his live
    Ryan smith is a bust
    Ucla cel? Lineman is a bust
    Aguayo is a bust
    Noah spence is a project. Look at his sacks. They were 15 second coverage sacks
    And now let me tell you and everyone why our defense has gashes and exposed…..



    11 milly vjack
    15 2 year fat doug
    10 mill sweezy

    A competant GM would have made us a playoff team this year with 5-6 players in this team

  27. DB55 Says:

    DB55 Says:
    September 30th, 2016 at 1:22 pm

    JWs secret weapon are his feet. I think we need to incorporate some option plays ala cam newton, roll out and get him out the pocket. Don’t be afraid of him getting hurt, he takes a pounding in the pocket as it is. Plus he plays better after a big hit. That’s what football players do.

  28. DB55 Says:

    Word on the street is Vjax isn’t really hurt. Hmmm interesting.

  29. ndog Says:

    Kobe I love how you are calling first year players busts after 8 games into their careers when people like you and Joe were saying Pamphile was a bust this time a year ago as well. What your little mind can’t seem to understand is that these rookies even playing right now is impressive. Once they get some experience they might be dominate players in this league we don’t know quite yet. Spence is a rookie playing part time with a bump shoulder and has made a impact regardless what you say.

  30. ndog Says:

    And btw Evans is 5th in the league in receiving yards, tied for 1st in Tds and is doing this with no 2nd receiver. Yeah your right he is average. Like I’ve told you before it’s time for you to get a new sport to watch pal.

  31. LakeLandBuc Says:

    I agree with Kobe, Jason Licht is the worst GM in the NFL. It’s not even close,

  32. Kobe Faker Says:

    Agreed evans will be better with another competent wr other tan vjack and cecil shorts

    End of the year freddie and shep is going to open our o to another level

    Phampile seems like a okay starter , who would have known. Licht sure didnt think so because he spent 10 mill on damaged goods. Mack sure would bave been nice at center with that money

  33. Kobe Faker Says:

    Im 36 now. Ive learned stupid people do stupid things. Smart people do smart things

    Drafting a kicker in the 2nd round (not even good) is inexcusable

  34. Kobe Faker Says:

    NOW LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT JADON GUMP and how he got here in tampa

    I spend half my time near philly, gumps was a buffoon there. At NE he was a buffoon. Google bill bellichik, NE, and jason licht and than replace him with jon robinson. Gump was a smuck in arizona

    Do you know why lovie picked gump who was never qualified to have a GM job?
    Lovie wanted to run the whole show and wanted a yes man and to not compete with a competent, qualified and experienced Gm. He wanted his players.

    Do you remember wedsday morning when america was surprised trump won? That was lovie when he got the phonecall he was fired but 10x. Lovie would have never thought a unqualified goof he brought in stab him in the back. Isnt life funny. Lovie probably right now still cant believe it.

  35. Kobe Faker Says:


    Offensive guru? Hell no. He was the predictable playcaller from jacksonville. Run run pass with garrand and couldnt develop gabbert

    Atlanta? Atlanta offense and scheme was setup by a very good offensive mind murlarky. After winning off coor award he left for hc job. Matt ryan and the offense was already in place

    Kobes BIG problem with koetter is he has personality flaws that is detrimental to head coaches. He is insecure

    He doesnt bring in a qualified and experienced offensive coordinator to help in the playcalling and the development of our franchise QB. He wants no one to second guess his scheme and development of jameis

    He is unqualified head coach and talks in circles and condensending way because of his insecurities

  36. Arealbucsfan Says:

    Sign Andrew Whitworth for 2 yrs move D Smith to RT

    LT- Whitworth
    LG- Pamphile
    C- Marpet
    RG- Sweezy
    RT- D Smith

  37. Doctor Stroud Says:

    Kobe Faker, you are tough on AC/DC-lovin’ GM Jason Licht and Coach Koetter (who, according to my sources, is a “breath of fresh air like a cool breeze with all of the doors and windows open”), but you do make some good points. Like it or not, though, the owners will most likely stay the course with the current regime for at least another two years. How did you feel about Spandau-Ballet-lovin’ ex-GM Mark Dominik?

  38. ndog Says:

    Makes good points?

  39. BuccaneEric75 Says:

    Licht wanted Winston in 2014. Lovie might have had final say, but Licht was on board before he even meet Lovie. Let’s not forget recorded history.

  40. Bob in valrico Says:

    so if Koetter and Chip Kelly could not develope it is because Gabbert does not posess Nfl level talent.

  41. Buc1987 Says:

    Quit bickering.

    Perhaps you’d rather have a Trent Dilfer, Vinny Testaverde or Josh Freeman.

    Quit bickering.

  42. Lord Corn Says:

    Kobe just shooting sh1t out his asz again

    I’ve laid out a ton of real facts to show Light is at worst; an average NFL GM when it comes to success rates in FA/drafts and it’s always ignored. Most would say he’s been a top 1/3 drafter compared to other teams with maybe 1-3 impact players total the last couple drafts. Kicker in 2nd round looks bad but beyond that Kobe has lost his mind. Apparently GMs are supposed to also be the highest qualified MD in the world too.

  43. Kobe Faker Says:

    L Corn

    2016 GM of the year – Jon Robinson …..not even close

    Amazing you disagreed with his moves

    GM robinson will win/build multi superbowls teams not only with Tenn and enter the hall of fame….

    And we had him last year at 1 buc place…

    But all we got is boo-boo bear

  44. unbelievable Says:

    well you can go root for Tennessee then, and we don’t have to hear your whining any more