Roll Out, Jameis, Roll Out!
October 28th, 2016
Mobile Jameis = good Jameis.
Earlier this year watching underwear football, Joe noticed a whole lot of rollout plays by America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.
Perhaps those plays should be staples of the Bucs offense?
Jenna Laine of ESPN did some digging and came up with startling statistics on Jameis.
Seven of Bucs quarterback Jameis Winston’s 12 touchdown passes this year have come from outside the pocket. No one else in the league has more than four. He also leads the NFL in quarterback rating outside the pocket (97) and has the worst QBR when inside the pocket (43), according to ESPN Stats & Info.
Now this is something Joe would have expected from a runaround quarterback like Marcus Mariota, not Jameis, who always was thought to be a dropback quarterback.
Joe isn’t sure what to make of this. Does it mean Jameis is just that good escaping the pocket and extending plays, buying time for his receivers to get open? Is Jameis that good when all hell breaks down around him? Or does it mean when defenses go to nickel and dime packages and don’t blitz, it throws Jameis off?
It’s already established Jameis thrives under blitzes, which means there are less guys in coverage.
All of this tells Joe that, for the time being, Dirk Koetter should be using the rollout that he practiced this spring a helluva lot more in October, and perhaps in November.
October 28th, 2016 at 2:00 pm
another head scratching move by dirk….when is he going to learn to put players in position to win and play to their strengths?….running sims up the gut?…having jameis start off by throwing 15-20yard outs to evans?….the misuse of shep?….wheres the fast tempo from all offseason?
hopefully we can win these next 3 games at home and have a real shot at the playoffs but with dirk making coaching 101 mistakes, it may take some time….be patient huh…..GO BUCS!!!!
October 28th, 2016 at 2:00 pm
Bucs WRs don’t seem to be good at getting open very quickly. When Jameis rolls out and buys time though, they seem to do a decent job of finding the holes in the coverage. Plus Jameis seems to have excellent vision while on the run and I tend to think that he’s more accurate for some reason. Don’t understand why Coach hasn’t had him rolling out more often.
October 28th, 2016 at 2:03 pm
Thinking main reason is he doesn’t run it is he doesn’t have the weapons. Teams are going to double-team Mike Evans. With the possible exception of Cam Brate, does any other receiver remotely scare a defensive coordinator?
Sure, you can run an uptempo-offense, but if you don’t have the weapons to make it work, it’s like p!ssing in the wind.
(Yes, the two-minute offense hummed last week. Consider the opponent: the rotten 49ers.)
October 28th, 2016 at 2:08 pm
Although Jameis is better outside the pocket than most anyone will acknowledge at this point – you still want him in a clean pocket with time to scan, step forward and throw. You want this every time if you can have it. But our Oline has not yet proved capable of providing that level of protection – so Jameis does what he has to do to try and make plays.
Winston is very good at sensing pressure, avoiding the sack, buying more time and creating a play downfield at this early stage of his NFL career. Always has been in fact.
The problem with designed QB roll-outs is that you are instantly cutting the field in half for DBs to defend against.
Better IMO to just let Jameis drop back straight every play and then adapt, evade, roll-out as necessary based on his in the moment feel which (as already acknowledged and backed up statistically) is excellent.
October 28th, 2016 at 2:13 pm
I keep trying to tell ya (especially Hawaii) if you would only listen to me we’d be unbeatable, unstoppable and champs.
DB55 Says:
September 30th, 2016 at 1:22 pm
2 things:
I agree Rodgers should start over Simms, last week Simms avg 4.2 yards vs 3.0 for Rodgers. However Rodgers is avg 6.29 for the season vs 3.38 for Simms.
Second, you said “Tampa Bay wants to rely on Winston’s arm, not his feet”. Agreed, but I say huge mistake. JWs secret weapon are his feet. I think we need to incorporate some option plays ala cam newton, roll out and get him out the pocket. Don’t be afraid of him getting hurt, he takes a pounding in the pocket as it is. Plus he plays better after a big hit. That’s what football players do.
October 28th, 2016 at 2:14 pm
@JOE…that’s fair regarding the up tempo….but he’s an offensive master mind….surely he can create something to get mike singled up in coverage….GO BUCS!!!!
October 28th, 2016 at 2:25 pm
Joe – Has there been a time this season where the quick tempo offense has been ineffective? Not that I can recall. Seems like everytime we have used it, the team sails down the field. I say let results dictate actions, if its working keep it up until someone stops it. At this point only the Bucs have stopped their up tempo offense.
October 28th, 2016 at 2:30 pm
dreambig:
The Bucs, outside of the 49ers game, haven’t used that yet without Vincent Jackson. As wrote earlier in this post, without Jackson, not sure the Bucs have the weapons to pull this off regularly.
The 49ers are just downright horrible right now. Not dismissing the win at all but what works against the 49ers may misleading.
October 28th, 2016 at 3:01 pm
as others have noted, i think it says more about how hard it is for his WRs to separate from coverage on their designed route. the rollouts buy time that favors his WRs, and i can think of at least a few rollout TDs that worked in part because the run game is working and those rollouts started with playaction
October 28th, 2016 at 3:16 pm
It’s simple , the field is cut in half on a roll out !! Play is right in front of or coming to you !!!
October 28th, 2016 at 3:30 pm
I call for rollouts before the ball is snapped all the time while watching Bucs games. He just seems comfortable with doing it and DB’s right. Have him run on a few of the rollouts and we’ll keep the D’s honest.
October 28th, 2016 at 3:54 pm
This is no secret to me, I’ve long since noticed that Jameis thrives on the rollout, as well as play action passing in general. That’s how I know that we will beat the raiders, our running game will be humming once again, which will open up the play action game, which in turn will allow Jameis to shred the raidas secondary. Bucs will win this Sunday.
October 28th, 2016 at 4:47 pm
I’ll say it again. Jameis’ best attribute is his “never give up” mentality. He will do anything he can to avoid a sack, and to make a play. That is the one thing that gives me hope for Jameis to be a great QB one day.
Side note: I thought I read somewhere that Jameis has struggled a lot against the blitz this season. Am I recalling that incorrectly? I think I remember that he was really good last year against the blitz, but this season, not so much.
October 28th, 2016 at 4:55 pm
Pressure, not the blitz. Jameis does very well when blitzed, which is odd.
October 28th, 2016 at 4:56 pm
It is well known that players perform better when they don’t have to think. On a rollout type play, he field is cut in half, he has less to think about. This is obviously not something you do all the time, but a hand full of times to keep the defense from keying in on it.
I also think Jameis is a better passer while moving around. His footwork in the pocket when he has to stand still is not very good. When he is outside the pocket Andy his legs are moving more, he naturally gets in a better throwing stance, by stepping up into the throw. In the pocket, sometimes you don’t have a chance to step into the throw, resulting in an inaccurate pass. Most QBs do better out of the pocket, so this is nothing that Jameis is extra special in. But it does show us that maybe we do need to design some more player to get Jameis moving more, since he is good at it.
October 28th, 2016 at 6:14 pm
Agreed with the points about our receivers with lack of los and run after catch 1st level skills
Jameis cant get the ball out
Why do you think jameis had all those running tds last year
You guys have to understand the huge disadvantage to jameis this is. While carr at the 20 yard line red zone can throw at the los at the ex 19 yard line for cooper to run for the td, jameis only has the td area. Carr has the 1-20 yard line plus the td area, jaboo has to pinpoint his tds in the td area with all the defenders bunched in together
Sims can be that rac player off the los. He made numberous explosives plays last year however he is injuryed…we do have 1 player
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October 28th, 2016 at 7:58 pm
Joe Says:
October 28th, 2016 at 4:55 pm
Side note: I thought I read somewhere that Jameis has struggled a lot against the blitz this season.
Pressure, not the blitz. Jameis does very well when blitzed, which is odd.
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Jameis thrives under pressure. That’s how you know he a real baller.
October 28th, 2016 at 11:13 pm
If we go up tempo our crappy defense gets on field faster.
The raiders can’t shred us if we got the ball.
Dirk knows what he is doing.
October 29th, 2016 at 10:58 pm
Mike Evans has YAC skills out the yin yang they just don’t give him enough crossing routes. Do you remember that huge bomb against the G Men last year? Turnded one of the most on point passes Jameis has ever made into 40 YAC! He’s proven what he can do if hit in stride. It was a crossing route and Jameis threw it perfectly. Don’t see too many of those because how many times have we seen him pitch a pass behind a receiver on a 10 yard cross or slant?